• Stone PC Case, Cooler Master GPU, DIY Case from Scratch, and Metal Fans

    Stone PC Case, Cooler Master GPU, DIY Case from Scratch, and Metal FansJune 4, 2025Last Updated: 2025-06-04Cooler Master is doing some really interesting stuff with its new casesThe HighlightsCooler Master’s upcoming MF600, MF500, and MF400 reconfigurable frame cases are assembled from columns and cornersThe company also showed off interesting stone facade case front panelsCooler Master is working on a “GPU” with AsusTable of ContentsAutoTOC Grab a GN Tear-Down Toolkit to support our AD-FREE reviews and IN-DEPTH testing while also getting a high-quality, highly portable 10-piece toolkit that was custom designed for use with video cards for repasting and water block installation. Includes a portable roll bag, hook hangers for pegboards, a storage compartment, and instructional GPU disassembly cards.IntroWe visited Cooler Master’s booth at Computex 2025 where the company showed off several new cases. Arguably the most interesting one is a modular case. It comes with, we believe, 8 corners and 12 columns.Editor's note: This was originally published on May 20, 2025 as a video. This content has been adapted to written format for this article and is unchanged from the original publication.CreditsHostSteve BurkeCamera, Video EditingMike GaglioneVitalii MakhnovetsWriting, Web EditingJimmy ThangCooler Master MF CasesThe case comes with a front panel that has a dust filter in it. With it all assembled, it looks like the cases in the image above. The cases are the MF series, with the largest one being the MF600, which we assume translates to “Motherf***ing 600.” There’s also the MF500 and the smaller MF400. Initially, Cooler Master is basically going to be selling pre-configured models. Eventually, the company wants to allow people to customize the case on their site and have it assembled and shipped from around the City of Industry. It’s pretty cool as it’s a fully modular approach.The side panels are secured to the case via magnets, which is actually a nice touch. Internally, the MF600 we saw came with 3x140mm fans on the front and 1x120mm fan on the back. The motherboard tray is pretty standard for the most part. Exceptions include a rail system that provides numerous holes for screws to go in, which allows Cooler Master to reconfigure things. Inside the case towards the back, there’s also a rail system, which forms bits and pieces of the motherboard tray that allow for more customizability. Cooler Master has been kind of on-and-off in the DIY space over the years where they’ve had some really big wins and some really big losses. They were also kind of absent for a while, but these MF cases represent a better showing from what we’ve seen in a while from the company. According to Cooler Master, a pre-configured MF600 is supposed to cost We expect to test and review the case. The MF500 is supposed to go for and includes 2x200mm fans in the front and 1x120mm fan in the back. The smallest MF case, the MF600, which is a very large micro ATX box, is going for In terms of fans, it has 2x120mm ones at the bottom coupled with a 1x120mm fan in the rear.  Cooler Master also showed off different panel types they’re experimenting with. One of them included a facade-style stone. One of the pre-built MF cases we looked at had stuff flipped around in an inverted layout. One of the benefits of its rail system allows the case to have a bar that screws in which can support the GPU. Looking into this system, you can see that the PSU is at the bottom next to a bottom intake fan. Updated Cosmos Visit our Patreon page to contribute a few dollars toward this website's operationAdditionally, when you purchase through links to retailers on our site, we may earn a small affiliate commission.Cooler Master’s updated Cosmos has the NVIDIA-like DGX style front. We also saw a variant of the Cosmos with thermal baffles in it. We have some criticisms of its execution, but overall, it’s an interesting idea.  The way the baffles are designed, Cooler Master is trying to bring air straight in through its channels. There’s a channel for the CPU that exposes the fin stack and Cooler Master's V8 CPU cooler. It conveys an idea similar to an engine cover. The GPU has a separate baffle beneath the CPU one. The company is trying to isolate air flow. In theory, this should work well and we would love this idea applied to more affordable cases, like the MF series, especially since they’re already kind of configurable. Looking at the back, fans can be mounted on the rear, which can help pull air out. We also saw another variant of the Cosmos case running liquid cooling with a distro block. It was coupled with 4x180mm fans and a “720” radiator, which pulled air into the case. Unfortunately, the air is blowing straight into the wall of a motherboard tray, but Cooler Master says the plan is to pull the air up and out of the case with additional 180mm fans on the top and to move the PSU towards the bottom of the case. Looking closer at the front of the special edition of the Cosmos cases, we can see the NVIDIA DGX shroud, which Cooler Master manufactures. It’s essentially like a sponge-like mesh. The special edition of the Cosmos doesn’t have a price yet, but the non-special edition variant is supposed to be around which is before any potential tariffs. Cooler Master CoolersCooler Master showed off some CPU air coolers that had some 3D heat pipes, which had more heat pipes protruding from the center. The company also showed off its V8 cooler and a full-metal fan. The fan’s blades and frame are both aluminum.  Cooler Master Elite Series CasesCooler Master does some really cool sh*t but has a branding problem. For instance, the company’s “Elite” series cases, shown in the image above, are actually budget cases. From left to right, we believe they are called the Elite 482, Elite 600, Elite 490 Wood, Elite 691 Wood, Elite 693, Elite 692, Elite 302, and Elite 502. Our advice to Cooler Master here is for them to unf*ck these names.Most of the Elite series cases don’t come with fans with the exception of the Elite 302 and Elite 502, which come with 3 ARGB fans. MF360Next up are Cooler Master’s MF360 cases, which conveys that you can see inside the case from all sides. While it’s going to have some thermal challenges, to give the company credit, it’s actually really good looking. The MF360 is a showcase fish-tank style PC that you can see through from both sides. Inside the case, we saw a distro block and tubes routed through on both sides.Cooling XThe case in the image above, which goes by "Cooling X,” and uses the company’s new MF frame system. If you look at the corner, you can see the individual columns. At Computex, we saw it as a pre-built system.The top of the case has a magnetically attached panel, which just pulls right off. The panel itself provides really good porosity and the material is pretty nice. Removing the top panel exposes 2 offset fans. The back fan tries to pull in air with the front fan trying to exhaust air out of the top, which is why they’re offset. That’s kind of cool to see.  Cooler Master FansCooler Master showed off all-aluminum fans, which include the blades and frame. The MF120 XT is a 120mm model, is supposed to be and the company says it goes up to 4,000 RPM. The fan’s RPM can also be button-controlled via an external remote and it uses a dual-ball-bearing solution. Cooler Master’s mixed fans, which use plastic blades coupled with an aluminum frame, come with fluid dynamic bearings. The clearance between the fan blade tip and the frame is important as the smaller that clearance is, the better performance you get. The major downside is that as the fan ages, it can start to clip the interior of the frame. Having it too close can also negatively impact yields. The solution to this is LCP, which is incredibly expensive, or metal, because it doesn’t deform, but that’s also expensive. Right now, Cooler Master says it’s about a .8mm distance, which is pretty good. The company is targeting 0.6mm by the time the fan launches. Cooler Master Video Card Shroud Grab a GN15 Large Anti-Static Modmat to celebrate our 15th Anniversary and for a high-quality PC building work surface. The Modmat features useful PC building diagrams and is anti-static conductive. Purchases directly fund our work!Cooler Master also showed off some video cards, which is not something the company is typically involved with. Cooler Master created a GPU shroud with adjustable slats that can accommodate 15-30mm fans. This solution is geared towards pre-built PCs and isn’t planned to be sold separately.Examining one of the fans, we saw a standard 25mm-thick fan, which Cooler Master’s GPU shroud solution can adjust to via different notch options.Cooler Master is also using a vapor chamber, which is supported by 8x8mm heat pipes running through the shroud and a gigantic fin stack. In total, it weighs almost 7 pounds.Cooler Master claims that, in terms of cooling, it performs similar to the 4-fan Astral solution at lower noise levels, but we don’t have those numbers. With 4,000 RPM fans running on a 600-watt heat load, Cooler Master claims a 5090 will run at about 49 degrees C or so for the GPU.
    #stone #case #cooler #master #gpu
    Stone PC Case, Cooler Master GPU, DIY Case from Scratch, and Metal Fans
    Stone PC Case, Cooler Master GPU, DIY Case from Scratch, and Metal FansJune 4, 2025Last Updated: 2025-06-04Cooler Master is doing some really interesting stuff with its new casesThe HighlightsCooler Master’s upcoming MF600, MF500, and MF400 reconfigurable frame cases are assembled from columns and cornersThe company also showed off interesting stone facade case front panelsCooler Master is working on a “GPU” with AsusTable of ContentsAutoTOC Grab a GN Tear-Down Toolkit to support our AD-FREE reviews and IN-DEPTH testing while also getting a high-quality, highly portable 10-piece toolkit that was custom designed for use with video cards for repasting and water block installation. Includes a portable roll bag, hook hangers for pegboards, a storage compartment, and instructional GPU disassembly cards.IntroWe visited Cooler Master’s booth at Computex 2025 where the company showed off several new cases. Arguably the most interesting one is a modular case. It comes with, we believe, 8 corners and 12 columns.Editor's note: This was originally published on May 20, 2025 as a video. This content has been adapted to written format for this article and is unchanged from the original publication.CreditsHostSteve BurkeCamera, Video EditingMike GaglioneVitalii MakhnovetsWriting, Web EditingJimmy ThangCooler Master MF CasesThe case comes with a front panel that has a dust filter in it. With it all assembled, it looks like the cases in the image above. The cases are the MF series, with the largest one being the MF600, which we assume translates to “Motherf***ing 600.” There’s also the MF500 and the smaller MF400. Initially, Cooler Master is basically going to be selling pre-configured models. Eventually, the company wants to allow people to customize the case on their site and have it assembled and shipped from around the City of Industry. It’s pretty cool as it’s a fully modular approach.The side panels are secured to the case via magnets, which is actually a nice touch. Internally, the MF600 we saw came with 3x140mm fans on the front and 1x120mm fan on the back. The motherboard tray is pretty standard for the most part. Exceptions include a rail system that provides numerous holes for screws to go in, which allows Cooler Master to reconfigure things. Inside the case towards the back, there’s also a rail system, which forms bits and pieces of the motherboard tray that allow for more customizability. Cooler Master has been kind of on-and-off in the DIY space over the years where they’ve had some really big wins and some really big losses. They were also kind of absent for a while, but these MF cases represent a better showing from what we’ve seen in a while from the company. According to Cooler Master, a pre-configured MF600 is supposed to cost We expect to test and review the case. The MF500 is supposed to go for and includes 2x200mm fans in the front and 1x120mm fan in the back. The smallest MF case, the MF600, which is a very large micro ATX box, is going for In terms of fans, it has 2x120mm ones at the bottom coupled with a 1x120mm fan in the rear.  Cooler Master also showed off different panel types they’re experimenting with. One of them included a facade-style stone. One of the pre-built MF cases we looked at had stuff flipped around in an inverted layout. One of the benefits of its rail system allows the case to have a bar that screws in which can support the GPU. Looking into this system, you can see that the PSU is at the bottom next to a bottom intake fan. Updated Cosmos Visit our Patreon page to contribute a few dollars toward this website's operationAdditionally, when you purchase through links to retailers on our site, we may earn a small affiliate commission.Cooler Master’s updated Cosmos has the NVIDIA-like DGX style front. We also saw a variant of the Cosmos with thermal baffles in it. We have some criticisms of its execution, but overall, it’s an interesting idea.  The way the baffles are designed, Cooler Master is trying to bring air straight in through its channels. There’s a channel for the CPU that exposes the fin stack and Cooler Master's V8 CPU cooler. It conveys an idea similar to an engine cover. The GPU has a separate baffle beneath the CPU one. The company is trying to isolate air flow. In theory, this should work well and we would love this idea applied to more affordable cases, like the MF series, especially since they’re already kind of configurable. Looking at the back, fans can be mounted on the rear, which can help pull air out. We also saw another variant of the Cosmos case running liquid cooling with a distro block. It was coupled with 4x180mm fans and a “720” radiator, which pulled air into the case. Unfortunately, the air is blowing straight into the wall of a motherboard tray, but Cooler Master says the plan is to pull the air up and out of the case with additional 180mm fans on the top and to move the PSU towards the bottom of the case. Looking closer at the front of the special edition of the Cosmos cases, we can see the NVIDIA DGX shroud, which Cooler Master manufactures. It’s essentially like a sponge-like mesh. The special edition of the Cosmos doesn’t have a price yet, but the non-special edition variant is supposed to be around which is before any potential tariffs. Cooler Master CoolersCooler Master showed off some CPU air coolers that had some 3D heat pipes, which had more heat pipes protruding from the center. The company also showed off its V8 cooler and a full-metal fan. The fan’s blades and frame are both aluminum.  Cooler Master Elite Series CasesCooler Master does some really cool sh*t but has a branding problem. For instance, the company’s “Elite” series cases, shown in the image above, are actually budget cases. From left to right, we believe they are called the Elite 482, Elite 600, Elite 490 Wood, Elite 691 Wood, Elite 693, Elite 692, Elite 302, and Elite 502. Our advice to Cooler Master here is for them to unf*ck these names.Most of the Elite series cases don’t come with fans with the exception of the Elite 302 and Elite 502, which come with 3 ARGB fans. MF360Next up are Cooler Master’s MF360 cases, which conveys that you can see inside the case from all sides. While it’s going to have some thermal challenges, to give the company credit, it’s actually really good looking. The MF360 is a showcase fish-tank style PC that you can see through from both sides. Inside the case, we saw a distro block and tubes routed through on both sides.Cooling XThe case in the image above, which goes by "Cooling X,” and uses the company’s new MF frame system. If you look at the corner, you can see the individual columns. At Computex, we saw it as a pre-built system.The top of the case has a magnetically attached panel, which just pulls right off. The panel itself provides really good porosity and the material is pretty nice. Removing the top panel exposes 2 offset fans. The back fan tries to pull in air with the front fan trying to exhaust air out of the top, which is why they’re offset. That’s kind of cool to see.  Cooler Master FansCooler Master showed off all-aluminum fans, which include the blades and frame. The MF120 XT is a 120mm model, is supposed to be and the company says it goes up to 4,000 RPM. The fan’s RPM can also be button-controlled via an external remote and it uses a dual-ball-bearing solution. Cooler Master’s mixed fans, which use plastic blades coupled with an aluminum frame, come with fluid dynamic bearings. The clearance between the fan blade tip and the frame is important as the smaller that clearance is, the better performance you get. The major downside is that as the fan ages, it can start to clip the interior of the frame. Having it too close can also negatively impact yields. The solution to this is LCP, which is incredibly expensive, or metal, because it doesn’t deform, but that’s also expensive. Right now, Cooler Master says it’s about a .8mm distance, which is pretty good. The company is targeting 0.6mm by the time the fan launches. Cooler Master Video Card Shroud Grab a GN15 Large Anti-Static Modmat to celebrate our 15th Anniversary and for a high-quality PC building work surface. The Modmat features useful PC building diagrams and is anti-static conductive. Purchases directly fund our work!Cooler Master also showed off some video cards, which is not something the company is typically involved with. Cooler Master created a GPU shroud with adjustable slats that can accommodate 15-30mm fans. This solution is geared towards pre-built PCs and isn’t planned to be sold separately.Examining one of the fans, we saw a standard 25mm-thick fan, which Cooler Master’s GPU shroud solution can adjust to via different notch options.Cooler Master is also using a vapor chamber, which is supported by 8x8mm heat pipes running through the shroud and a gigantic fin stack. In total, it weighs almost 7 pounds.Cooler Master claims that, in terms of cooling, it performs similar to the 4-fan Astral solution at lower noise levels, but we don’t have those numbers. With 4,000 RPM fans running on a 600-watt heat load, Cooler Master claims a 5090 will run at about 49 degrees C or so for the GPU. #stone #case #cooler #master #gpu
    GAMERSNEXUS.NET
    Stone PC Case, Cooler Master GPU, DIY Case from Scratch, and Metal Fans
    Stone PC Case, Cooler Master GPU, DIY Case from Scratch, and Metal FansJune 4, 2025Last Updated: 2025-06-04Cooler Master is doing some really interesting stuff with its new casesThe HighlightsCooler Master’s upcoming MF600, MF500, and MF400 reconfigurable frame cases are assembled from columns and cornersThe company also showed off interesting stone facade case front panelsCooler Master is working on a “GPU” with AsusTable of ContentsAutoTOC Grab a GN Tear-Down Toolkit to support our AD-FREE reviews and IN-DEPTH testing while also getting a high-quality, highly portable 10-piece toolkit that was custom designed for use with video cards for repasting and water block installation. Includes a portable roll bag, hook hangers for pegboards, a storage compartment, and instructional GPU disassembly cards.IntroWe visited Cooler Master’s booth at Computex 2025 where the company showed off several new cases. Arguably the most interesting one is a modular case. It comes with, we believe, 8 corners and 12 columns.Editor's note: This was originally published on May 20, 2025 as a video. This content has been adapted to written format for this article and is unchanged from the original publication.CreditsHostSteve BurkeCamera, Video EditingMike GaglioneVitalii MakhnovetsWriting, Web EditingJimmy ThangCooler Master MF CasesThe case comes with a front panel that has a dust filter in it. With it all assembled, it looks like the cases in the image above. The cases are the MF series, with the largest one being the MF600, which we assume translates to “Motherf***ing 600.” There’s also the MF500 and the smaller MF400. Initially, Cooler Master is basically going to be selling pre-configured models. Eventually, the company wants to allow people to customize the case on their site and have it assembled and shipped from around the City of Industry. It’s pretty cool as it’s a fully modular approach.The side panels are secured to the case via magnets, which is actually a nice touch. Internally, the MF600 we saw came with 3x140mm fans on the front and 1x120mm fan on the back. The motherboard tray is pretty standard for the most part. Exceptions include a rail system that provides numerous holes for screws to go in, which allows Cooler Master to reconfigure things. Inside the case towards the back, there’s also a rail system, which forms bits and pieces of the motherboard tray that allow for more customizability. Cooler Master has been kind of on-and-off in the DIY space over the years where they’ve had some really big wins and some really big losses. They were also kind of absent for a while, but these MF cases represent a better showing from what we’ve seen in a while from the company. According to Cooler Master, a pre-configured MF600 is supposed to cost $200. We expect to test and review the case. The MF500 is supposed to go for $165 and includes 2x200mm fans in the front and 1x120mm fan in the back. The smallest MF case, the MF600, which is a very large micro ATX box, is going for $150. In terms of fans, it has 2x120mm ones at the bottom coupled with a 1x120mm fan in the rear.  Cooler Master also showed off different panel types they’re experimenting with. One of them included a facade-style stone. One of the pre-built MF cases we looked at had stuff flipped around in an inverted layout. One of the benefits of its rail system allows the case to have a bar that screws in which can support the GPU. Looking into this system, you can see that the PSU is at the bottom next to a bottom intake fan. Updated Cosmos Visit our Patreon page to contribute a few dollars toward this website's operation (or consider a direct donation or buying something from our GN Store!) Additionally, when you purchase through links to retailers on our site, we may earn a small affiliate commission.Cooler Master’s updated Cosmos has the NVIDIA-like DGX style front. We also saw a variant of the Cosmos with thermal baffles in it. We have some criticisms of its execution, but overall, it’s an interesting idea.  The way the baffles are designed, Cooler Master is trying to bring air straight in through its channels. There’s a channel for the CPU that exposes the fin stack and Cooler Master's V8 CPU cooler. It conveys an idea similar to an engine cover. The GPU has a separate baffle beneath the CPU one. The company is trying to isolate air flow. In theory, this should work well and we would love this idea applied to more affordable cases, like the MF series, especially since they’re already kind of configurable. Looking at the back, fans can be mounted on the rear, which can help pull air out. We also saw another variant of the Cosmos case running liquid cooling with a distro block. It was coupled with 4x180mm fans and a “720” radiator, which pulled air into the case. Unfortunately, the air is blowing straight into the wall of a motherboard tray, but Cooler Master says the plan is to pull the air up and out of the case with additional 180mm fans on the top and to move the PSU towards the bottom of the case. Looking closer at the front of the special edition of the Cosmos cases, we can see the NVIDIA DGX shroud, which Cooler Master manufactures. It’s essentially like a sponge-like mesh. The special edition of the Cosmos doesn’t have a price yet, but the non-special edition variant is supposed to be around $400, which is before any potential tariffs. Cooler Master CoolersCooler Master showed off some CPU air coolers that had some 3D heat pipes, which had more heat pipes protruding from the center. The company also showed off its V8 cooler and a full-metal fan. The fan’s blades and frame are both aluminum.  Cooler Master Elite Series CasesCooler Master does some really cool sh*t but has a branding problem. For instance, the company’s “Elite” series cases, shown in the image above, are actually budget cases. From left to right, we believe they are called the Elite 482 ($50), Elite 600 ($65), Elite 490 Wood ($50), Elite 691 Wood ($60), Elite 693 ($60), Elite 692 ($70), Elite 302 ($40), and Elite 502 ($60). Our advice to Cooler Master here is for them to unf*ck these names.Most of the Elite series cases don’t come with fans with the exception of the Elite 302 and Elite 502, which come with 3 ARGB fans. MF360Next up are Cooler Master’s MF360 cases, which conveys that you can see inside the case from all sides. While it’s going to have some thermal challenges, to give the company credit, it’s actually really good looking. The MF360 is a showcase fish-tank style PC that you can see through from both sides. Inside the case, we saw a distro block and tubes routed through on both sides.Cooling XThe case in the image above, which goes by "Cooling X,” and uses the company’s new MF frame system. If you look at the corner, you can see the individual columns. At Computex, we saw it as a pre-built system.The top of the case has a magnetically attached panel, which just pulls right off. The panel itself provides really good porosity and the material is pretty nice. Removing the top panel exposes 2 offset fans. The back fan tries to pull in air with the front fan trying to exhaust air out of the top, which is why they’re offset. That’s kind of cool to see.  Cooler Master FansCooler Master showed off all-aluminum fans, which include the blades and frame. The MF120 XT is a 120mm model, is supposed to be $35, and the company says it goes up to 4,000 RPM. The fan’s RPM can also be button-controlled via an external remote and it uses a dual-ball-bearing solution. Cooler Master’s mixed fans, which use plastic blades coupled with an aluminum frame, come with fluid dynamic bearings (FDBs). The clearance between the fan blade tip and the frame is important as the smaller that clearance is, the better performance you get. The major downside is that as the fan ages, it can start to clip the interior of the frame. Having it too close can also negatively impact yields. The solution to this is LCP, which is incredibly expensive, or metal, because it doesn’t deform, but that’s also expensive. Right now, Cooler Master says it’s about a .8mm distance, which is pretty good. The company is targeting 0.6mm by the time the fan launches. Cooler Master Video Card Shroud Grab a GN15 Large Anti-Static Modmat to celebrate our 15th Anniversary and for a high-quality PC building work surface. The Modmat features useful PC building diagrams and is anti-static conductive. Purchases directly fund our work! (or consider a direct donation or a Patreon contribution!)Cooler Master also showed off some video cards, which is not something the company is typically involved with. Cooler Master created a GPU shroud with adjustable slats that can accommodate 15-30mm fans. This solution is geared towards pre-built PCs and isn’t planned to be sold separately.Examining one of the fans, we saw a standard 25mm-thick fan, which Cooler Master’s GPU shroud solution can adjust to via different notch options.Cooler Master is also using a vapor chamber, which is supported by 8x8mm heat pipes running through the shroud and a gigantic fin stack. In total, it weighs almost 7 pounds (3.2 kilograms).Cooler Master claims that, in terms of cooling, it performs similar to the 4-fan Astral solution at lower noise levels, but we don’t have those numbers. With 4,000 RPM fans running on a 600-watt heat load, Cooler Master claims a 5090 will run at about 49 degrees C or so for the GPU.
    Like
    Love
    Wow
    Sad
    Angry
    197
    0 Yorumlar 0 hisse senetleri 0 önizleme
  • This lean Linux distro can give your Windows 10 PC an extra 5 to 10 years of life

    Don't throw away your old computer. Install a Linux distribution that'll make it feel brand new. FunOS is here to help you out.
    #this #lean #linux #distro #can
    This lean Linux distro can give your Windows 10 PC an extra 5 to 10 years of life
    Don't throw away your old computer. Install a Linux distribution that'll make it feel brand new. FunOS is here to help you out. #this #lean #linux #distro #can
    WWW.ZDNET.COM
    This lean Linux distro can give your Windows 10 PC an extra 5 to 10 years of life
    Don't throw away your old computer. Install a Linux distribution that'll make it feel brand new. FunOS is here to help you out.
    14 Yorumlar 0 hisse senetleri 0 önizleme
  • You can now install SteamOS on the ROG Ally, Legion Go and other AMD handhelds (directly from Valve)

    Bill Gaitas
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    4,119

    As per the SteamOS 3.7 changelog that just hit, Valve updated the recovery image for the Steam Deck and now has steps on how to install SteamOS on the Legion Go, ROG Ally, any AMD handheld, apparently. Valve mentions that people can "test" SteamOS on these devices so I'm unsure if these images are ready for prime time.

    Steam Support :: SteamOS Recovery and Installation

    help.steampowered.com

    SteamOS 3.7 changelog
    Updated SteamOS webpage with FAQ and other info
     

    Last edited: 10 minutes ago

    ASleepingMonkey
    The Fallen

    Oct 26, 2017

    4,579

    Iowa

    As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?
     

    PianoBlack
    Member

    May 24, 2018

    7,519

    United States

    Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.
     

    MrCuddles
    Member

    Oct 28, 2017

    691

    PianoBlack said:

    Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.
     

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    MrCuddles said:

    The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update. 

    jroc74
    Member

    Oct 27, 2017

    34,068

    Welp.
     

    neoak
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    16,867

    ASleepingMonkey said:

    As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Yes, it's pretty close to it
     

    SaintNicholas98
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    1,848

    super-famicom said:

    Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Or your games not booting because the OS decided it doesn't like the mouse you always use 

    KanjoBazooie
    ▲ Legend ▲
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    32,726

    Chicago

    bye Microsoft
     

    Maximo
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    10,981

    Bazzite is honestly still the better option.
     

    Brot
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    6,798

    the edge

    Maximo said:

    Bazzite is honestly still the better option.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    How so?
     

    ELEGYELEGYELEGY
    Member

    Apr 16, 2025

    59

    Nice I'll try it at some point on my LeGo, but using windows on it isn't nearly as bad as its made out to be, so I'll just use the trusty SteamDeck instead
     

    Tobor
    Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    34,076

    Very close to letting us install on an AMD box. Which is interesting.

    Framework desktop with an official Steam OS would be awesome. I know you can do Bazzite, but I prefer official if possible. 

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    Brot said:

    How so?

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    You can do PC stuff on Bazzite. Steam OS, at least on a Steam Deck, while it does have a desktop environment, is kinda limited in what you can really do.

    Also, Bazzite isn't the only Linux distro with a handheld mode. Nobara and CachyOS are also great choices. Bazzite and Nobara also have Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher installed by default, Cachy also has them available but you need to just install a gaming package. 

    maximumzero
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    24,842

    New Orleans, LA

    Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.
     

    Dinjoralo
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    11,725

    PianoBlack said:

    Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    You don't need to fiddle with multiple apps that don't all work with controller to update the OS and drivers.

    You don't need to log in with the touch screen when it reboots.
    Everything with Big Picture works more smoothly and reliably.
    Maybe better battery life with less background junk running.
    Because Fuck Microsoft. 

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    maximumzero said:

    Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers. 

    Jakartalado
    Member

    Oct 27, 2017

    2,781

    São Paulo, Brazil

    super-famicom said:

    See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware.

    I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia.... 

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    Jakartalado said:

    Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware.

    I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia....
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    You can run any of the distros I mentioned with Nvidia cards, though. I have a 5080 and used Nobara before settling on Cachy.

    And MSI Claw is a portable system that is all Intel. People are using Bazzite and Cachy on that too. But yeah, there's no portable system that has Nvidia tech iirc. 

    Mocha Joe
    Member

    Jun 2, 2021

    13,430

    Excellent. More OS alternatives the better, fuck Microsoft
     

    Millstone
    Member

    Feb 17, 2025

    450

    EY YO

    INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT

    How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot? 

    ragolliangatan
    Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo
    Member

    Aug 31, 2019

    6,370

    can't seem to find the steam os image from their link- was gonna set it up on my rog ally
     

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    Millstone said:

    EY YO

    INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT

    How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot?
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Heroic Launcher and Lutris can take care of a lot of non-Steam games 
    #you #can #now #install #steamos
    You can now install SteamOS on the ROG Ally, Legion Go and other AMD handhelds (directly from Valve)
    Bill Gaitas Member Oct 25, 2017 4,119 As per the SteamOS 3.7 changelog that just hit, Valve updated the recovery image for the Steam Deck and now has steps on how to install SteamOS on the Legion Go, ROG Ally, any AMD handheld, apparently. Valve mentions that people can "test" SteamOS on these devices so I'm unsure if these images are ready for prime time. Steam Support :: SteamOS Recovery and Installation help.steampowered.com SteamOS 3.7 changelog Updated SteamOS webpage with FAQ and other info   Last edited: 10 minutes ago ASleepingMonkey The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 4,579 Iowa As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?   PianoBlack Member May 24, 2018 7,519 United States Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.   MrCuddles Member Oct 28, 2017 691 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 MrCuddles said: The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update.  jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,068 Welp.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,867 ASleepingMonkey said: As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, it's pretty close to it   SaintNicholas98 Member Oct 25, 2017 1,848 super-famicom said: Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Or your games not booting because the OS decided it doesn't like the mouse you always use  KanjoBazooie ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 26, 2017 32,726 Chicago bye Microsoft   Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,981 Bazzite is honestly still the better option.   Brot Member Oct 25, 2017 6,798 the edge Maximo said: Bazzite is honestly still the better option. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How so?   ELEGYELEGYELEGY Member Apr 16, 2025 59 Nice I'll try it at some point on my LeGo, but using windows on it isn't nearly as bad as its made out to be, so I'll just use the trusty SteamDeck instead   Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 34,076 Very close to letting us install on an AMD box. Which is interesting. Framework desktop with an official Steam OS would be awesome. I know you can do Bazzite, but I prefer official if possible.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Brot said: How so? Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can do PC stuff on Bazzite. Steam OS, at least on a Steam Deck, while it does have a desktop environment, is kinda limited in what you can really do. Also, Bazzite isn't the only Linux distro with a handheld mode. Nobara and CachyOS are also great choices. Bazzite and Nobara also have Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher installed by default, Cachy also has them available but you need to just install a gaming package.  maximumzero Member Oct 25, 2017 24,842 New Orleans, LA Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,725 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't need to fiddle with multiple apps that don't all work with controller to update the OS and drivers. You don't need to log in with the touch screen when it reboots. Everything with Big Picture works more smoothly and reliably. Maybe better battery life with less background junk running. Because Fuck Microsoft.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 maximumzero said: Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers.  Jakartalado Member Oct 27, 2017 2,781 São Paulo, Brazil super-famicom said: See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia....  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Jakartalado said: Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia.... Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can run any of the distros I mentioned with Nvidia cards, though. I have a 5080 and used Nobara before settling on Cachy. And MSI Claw is a portable system that is all Intel. People are using Bazzite and Cachy on that too. But yeah, there's no portable system that has Nvidia tech iirc.  Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,430 Excellent. More OS alternatives the better, fuck Microsoft   Millstone Member Feb 17, 2025 450 EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot?  ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,370 can't seem to find the steam os image from their link- was gonna set it up on my rog ally   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Millstone said: EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heroic Launcher and Lutris can take care of a lot of non-Steam games  #you #can #now #install #steamos
    WWW.RESETERA.COM
    You can now install SteamOS on the ROG Ally, Legion Go and other AMD handhelds (directly from Valve)
    Bill Gaitas Member Oct 25, 2017 4,119 As per the SteamOS 3.7 changelog that just hit, Valve updated the recovery image for the Steam Deck and now has steps on how to install SteamOS on the Legion Go, ROG Ally, any AMD handheld, apparently. Valve mentions that people can "test" SteamOS on these devices so I'm unsure if these images are ready for prime time. Steam Support :: SteamOS Recovery and Installation help.steampowered.com SteamOS 3.7 changelog Updated SteamOS webpage with FAQ and other info   Last edited: 10 minutes ago ASleepingMonkey The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 4,579 Iowa As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?   PianoBlack Member May 24, 2018 7,519 United States Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.   MrCuddles Member Oct 28, 2017 691 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 MrCuddles said: The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update.  jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,068 Welp.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,867 ASleepingMonkey said: As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, it's pretty close to it   SaintNicholas98 Member Oct 25, 2017 1,848 super-famicom said: Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Or your games not booting because the OS decided it doesn't like the mouse you always use  KanjoBazooie ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 26, 2017 32,726 Chicago bye Microsoft   Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,981 Bazzite is honestly still the better option.   Brot Member Oct 25, 2017 6,798 the edge Maximo said: Bazzite is honestly still the better option. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How so?   ELEGYELEGYELEGY Member Apr 16, 2025 59 Nice I'll try it at some point on my LeGo, but using windows on it isn't nearly as bad as its made out to be, so I'll just use the trusty SteamDeck instead   Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 34,076 Very close to letting us install on an AMD box. Which is interesting. Framework desktop with an official Steam OS would be awesome. I know you can do Bazzite, but I prefer official if possible.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Brot said: How so? Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can do PC stuff on Bazzite (run Office style apps and any other app you'd use on a PC). Steam OS, at least on a Steam Deck, while it does have a desktop environment, is kinda limited in what you can really do. Also, Bazzite isn't the only Linux distro with a handheld mode. Nobara and CachyOS are also great choices. Bazzite and Nobara also have Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher installed by default, Cachy also has them available but you need to just install a gaming package (literally click on a couple things after the initial install).  maximumzero Member Oct 25, 2017 24,842 New Orleans, LA Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,725 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't need to fiddle with multiple apps that don't all work with controller to update the OS and drivers. You don't need to log in with the touch screen when it reboots. Everything with Big Picture works more smoothly and reliably. Maybe better battery life with less background junk running. Because Fuck Microsoft.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 maximumzero said: Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers (Steam OS is based on Arch Linux).  Jakartalado Member Oct 27, 2017 2,781 São Paulo, Brazil super-famicom said: See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers (Steam OS is based on Arch Linux). Click to expand... Click to shrink... Pretty sure (based on statistics) he wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia....  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Jakartalado said: Pretty sure (based on statistics) he wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia.... Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can run any of the distros I mentioned with Nvidia cards, though. I have a 5080 and used Nobara before settling on Cachy. And MSI Claw is a portable system that is all Intel. People are using Bazzite and Cachy on that too. But yeah, there's no portable system that has Nvidia tech iirc.  Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,430 Excellent. More OS alternatives the better, fuck Microsoft   Millstone Member Feb 17, 2025 450 EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot?  ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,370 can't seem to find the steam os image from their link- was gonna set it up on my rog ally   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Millstone said: EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heroic Launcher and Lutris can take care of a lot of non-Steam games 
    0 Yorumlar 0 hisse senetleri 0 önizleme
  • Microsoft closes 9-year-old feature request, open-sources Windows Subsystem for Linux

    w/s/l?

    Microsoft closes 9-year-old feature request, open-sources Windows Subsystem for Linux

    WSL has also recently added official support for both Fedora and Arch distros.

    Andrew Cunningham



    May 19, 2025 1:49 pm

    |

    23

    Credit:

    Microsoft

    Credit:

    Microsoft

    Story text

    Size

    Small
    Standard
    Large

    Width
    *

    Standard
    Wide

    Links

    Standard
    Orange

    * Subscribers only
      Learn more

    Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux has become an important tool for developers and power users since it was introduced in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update back in 2016, giving them access to a built-in Linux command line and Linux applications from within Windows.
    The company has steadily improved WSL since then, improving performance, making it easier to install and use, and adding features like GPU and audio support. But today as part of its Build developer conference, Microsoft announced that it would be making almost all of WSL open source, closing the very first issue that the then-new WSL project attracted on Github in 2016.
    "WSL could never have been what it is today without its community," writes Microsoft Senior Software Engineer Pierre Boulay in the company's blog post. "We’ve seen how much the community has contributed to WSL without access to the source code, and we can’t wait to see how WSL will evolve now that the community can make direct code contributions to the project."
    Only two elements of WSL remain closed-source for now: an lxcore.sys kernel driver used for WSL 1; and the p9rdr.sys and p9np.dll files that handle filesystem redirection from Windows to Linux. Microsoft didn't close the door to open-sourcing those components but also didn't say if or when it planned to make them open source.

    Though WSL uses some of the same technologies as virtual machines, WSL's speed, low resource usage, and integration with Windows makes it much more seamless to install and use than traditional virtual machines that maintain more separation between the host and guest operating system. Around the release of Windows 11 in 2021, Microsoft made WSL something that was installed and updated via the Microsoft Store rather than something built into the operating system, making it easier to add new features without requiring the potential disruption of a full Windows update.
    This isn't the only major improvement Microsoft has helped to release for WSL recently. Earlier this month, the company announced that Fedora is now an officially supported WSL distribution, joining Ubuntuand a number of other distributions. Arch Linux also became an officially supported distribution back in April; both Fedora and Arch are taking advantage of changes Microsoft announced last year to make it easier to build new WSL distributions.
    Windows users can install WSL by choosing a distribution from the Microsoft Store or by opening a command-line window and typing wsl --install. Users can install multiple distributions at once and switch between them based on what they're running or testing; typing wsl --list --online at the command line will also show you all of the distributions that Microsoft officially supports if you don't want to use Ubuntu.

    Andrew Cunningham
    Senior Technology Reporter

    Andrew Cunningham
    Senior Technology Reporter

    Andrew is a Senior Technology Reporter at Ars Technica, with a focus on consumer tech including computer hardware and in-depth reviews of operating systems like Windows and macOS. Andrew lives in Philadelphia and co-hosts a weekly book podcast called Overdue.

    23 Comments
    #microsoft #closes #9yearold #feature #request
    Microsoft closes 9-year-old feature request, open-sources Windows Subsystem for Linux
    w/s/l? Microsoft closes 9-year-old feature request, open-sources Windows Subsystem for Linux WSL has also recently added official support for both Fedora and Arch distros. Andrew Cunningham – May 19, 2025 1:49 pm | 23 Credit: Microsoft Credit: Microsoft Story text Size Small Standard Large Width * Standard Wide Links Standard Orange * Subscribers only   Learn more Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux has become an important tool for developers and power users since it was introduced in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update back in 2016, giving them access to a built-in Linux command line and Linux applications from within Windows. The company has steadily improved WSL since then, improving performance, making it easier to install and use, and adding features like GPU and audio support. But today as part of its Build developer conference, Microsoft announced that it would be making almost all of WSL open source, closing the very first issue that the then-new WSL project attracted on Github in 2016. "WSL could never have been what it is today without its community," writes Microsoft Senior Software Engineer Pierre Boulay in the company's blog post. "We’ve seen how much the community has contributed to WSL without access to the source code, and we can’t wait to see how WSL will evolve now that the community can make direct code contributions to the project." Only two elements of WSL remain closed-source for now: an lxcore.sys kernel driver used for WSL 1; and the p9rdr.sys and p9np.dll files that handle filesystem redirection from Windows to Linux. Microsoft didn't close the door to open-sourcing those components but also didn't say if or when it planned to make them open source. Though WSL uses some of the same technologies as virtual machines, WSL's speed, low resource usage, and integration with Windows makes it much more seamless to install and use than traditional virtual machines that maintain more separation between the host and guest operating system. Around the release of Windows 11 in 2021, Microsoft made WSL something that was installed and updated via the Microsoft Store rather than something built into the operating system, making it easier to add new features without requiring the potential disruption of a full Windows update. This isn't the only major improvement Microsoft has helped to release for WSL recently. Earlier this month, the company announced that Fedora is now an officially supported WSL distribution, joining Ubuntuand a number of other distributions. Arch Linux also became an officially supported distribution back in April; both Fedora and Arch are taking advantage of changes Microsoft announced last year to make it easier to build new WSL distributions. Windows users can install WSL by choosing a distribution from the Microsoft Store or by opening a command-line window and typing wsl --install. Users can install multiple distributions at once and switch between them based on what they're running or testing; typing wsl --list --online at the command line will also show you all of the distributions that Microsoft officially supports if you don't want to use Ubuntu. Andrew Cunningham Senior Technology Reporter Andrew Cunningham Senior Technology Reporter Andrew is a Senior Technology Reporter at Ars Technica, with a focus on consumer tech including computer hardware and in-depth reviews of operating systems like Windows and macOS. Andrew lives in Philadelphia and co-hosts a weekly book podcast called Overdue. 23 Comments #microsoft #closes #9yearold #feature #request
    ARSTECHNICA.COM
    Microsoft closes 9-year-old feature request, open-sources Windows Subsystem for Linux
    w/s/l? Microsoft closes 9-year-old feature request, open-sources Windows Subsystem for Linux WSL has also recently added official support for both Fedora and Arch distros. Andrew Cunningham – May 19, 2025 1:49 pm | 23 Credit: Microsoft Credit: Microsoft Story text Size Small Standard Large Width * Standard Wide Links Standard Orange * Subscribers only   Learn more Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux has become an important tool for developers and power users since it was introduced in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update back in 2016, giving them access to a built-in Linux command line and Linux applications from within Windows. The company has steadily improved WSL since then, improving performance, making it easier to install and use, and adding features like GPU and audio support. But today as part of its Build developer conference, Microsoft announced that it would be making almost all of WSL open source, closing the very first issue that the then-new WSL project attracted on Github in 2016. "WSL could never have been what it is today without its community," writes Microsoft Senior Software Engineer Pierre Boulay in the company's blog post. "We’ve seen how much the community has contributed to WSL without access to the source code, and we can’t wait to see how WSL will evolve now that the community can make direct code contributions to the project." Only two elements of WSL remain closed-source for now: an lxcore.sys kernel driver used for WSL 1 (the initial version of WSL that is still supported, though new installs default to 2019's WSL 2); and the p9rdr.sys and p9np.dll files that handle filesystem redirection from Windows to Linux (in other words, making it so that Windows can easily access the Linux filesystem). Microsoft didn't close the door to open-sourcing those components but also didn't say if or when it planned to make them open source. Though WSL uses some of the same technologies as virtual machines, WSL's speed, low resource usage, and integration with Windows makes it much more seamless to install and use than traditional virtual machines that maintain more separation between the host and guest operating system. Around the release of Windows 11 in 2021, Microsoft made WSL something that was installed and updated via the Microsoft Store rather than something built into the operating system, making it easier to add new features without requiring the potential disruption of a full Windows update (and also possibly making it easier to open source the code without posting source code for other parts of Windows). This isn't the only major improvement Microsoft has helped to release for WSL recently. Earlier this month, the company announced that Fedora is now an officially supported WSL distribution, joining Ubuntu (still the default) and a number of other distributions. Arch Linux also became an officially supported distribution back in April; both Fedora and Arch are taking advantage of changes Microsoft announced last year to make it easier to build new WSL distributions. Windows users can install WSL by choosing a distribution from the Microsoft Store or by opening a command-line window and typing wsl --install. Users can install multiple distributions at once and switch between them based on what they're running or testing; typing wsl --list --online at the command line will also show you all of the distributions that Microsoft officially supports if you don't want to use Ubuntu. Andrew Cunningham Senior Technology Reporter Andrew Cunningham Senior Technology Reporter Andrew is a Senior Technology Reporter at Ars Technica, with a focus on consumer tech including computer hardware and in-depth reviews of operating systems like Windows and macOS. Andrew lives in Philadelphia and co-hosts a weekly book podcast called Overdue. 23 Comments
    0 Yorumlar 0 hisse senetleri 0 önizleme
  • Linux Windows 11 dual boot to finally play well as Microsoft fixes nine-month old bug

    When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works.

    Linux Windows 11 dual boot to finally play well as Microsoft fixes nine-month old bug

    Sayan Sen

    Neowin
    ·

    May 15, 2025 01:48 EDT

    It is known that Patch Tuesday updates can often lead to big issues and something just like that happened last year in August. The security update had broken dual-booting Windows 11 and Linux systems as GNU distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Zorin OS, Puppy Linux, were all affected.
    A couple of days later, Microsoft provided a slightly lengthy workaround that involved tweaking around with policies and the Registry in order to fix the problem. The company also explained that the root of the issue was a buggy SBATimplementation in the Windows 11 August Patch Tuesday KB5041585.
    For those who may be wondering, SBAT helps block outdated and potentially vulnerable bootloaders by checking the Secure Boot DBX. The Secure Boot DBX is a database of blacklisted UEFI executables. Microsoft explained:

    After installing the August 2024 Windows security update,or the August 2024 preview update, you might face issues with booting Linux if you have enabled the dual-boot setup for Windows and Linux in your device. Resulting from this issue, your device might fail to boot Linux and show the error message “Verifying shim SBAT data failed: Security Policy Violation. Something has gone seriously wrong: SBAT self-check failed: Security Policy Violation.”
    The August 2024 Windows security and preview updates apply a Secure Boot Advanced Targetingsetting to devices that run Windows to block old, vulnerable boot managers. This SBAT update will not be applied to devices where dual booting is detected. On some devices, the dual-boot detection did not detect some customized methods of dual-booting and applied the SBAT value when it should not have been applied.

    The problem has been resolved this week with the latest May 2025 Patch Tuesday under KB5058405. This also happens to be the first Windows 11 Hotpatch update.

    Tags

    Report a problem with article

    Follow @NeowinFeed
    #linux #windows #dual #boot #finally
    Linux Windows 11 dual boot to finally play well as Microsoft fixes nine-month old bug
    When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works. Linux Windows 11 dual boot to finally play well as Microsoft fixes nine-month old bug Sayan Sen Neowin · May 15, 2025 01:48 EDT It is known that Patch Tuesday updates can often lead to big issues and something just like that happened last year in August. The security update had broken dual-booting Windows 11 and Linux systems as GNU distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Zorin OS, Puppy Linux, were all affected. A couple of days later, Microsoft provided a slightly lengthy workaround that involved tweaking around with policies and the Registry in order to fix the problem. The company also explained that the root of the issue was a buggy SBATimplementation in the Windows 11 August Patch Tuesday KB5041585. For those who may be wondering, SBAT helps block outdated and potentially vulnerable bootloaders by checking the Secure Boot DBX. The Secure Boot DBX is a database of blacklisted UEFI executables. Microsoft explained: After installing the August 2024 Windows security update,or the August 2024 preview update, you might face issues with booting Linux if you have enabled the dual-boot setup for Windows and Linux in your device. Resulting from this issue, your device might fail to boot Linux and show the error message “Verifying shim SBAT data failed: Security Policy Violation. Something has gone seriously wrong: SBAT self-check failed: Security Policy Violation.” The August 2024 Windows security and preview updates apply a Secure Boot Advanced Targetingsetting to devices that run Windows to block old, vulnerable boot managers. This SBAT update will not be applied to devices where dual booting is detected. On some devices, the dual-boot detection did not detect some customized methods of dual-booting and applied the SBAT value when it should not have been applied. The problem has been resolved this week with the latest May 2025 Patch Tuesday under KB5058405. This also happens to be the first Windows 11 Hotpatch update. Tags Report a problem with article Follow @NeowinFeed #linux #windows #dual #boot #finally
    WWW.NEOWIN.NET
    Linux Windows 11 dual boot to finally play well as Microsoft fixes nine-month old bug
    When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Here’s how it works. Linux Windows 11 dual boot to finally play well as Microsoft fixes nine-month old bug Sayan Sen Neowin · May 15, 2025 01:48 EDT It is known that Patch Tuesday updates can often lead to big issues and something just like that happened last year in August. The security update had broken dual-booting Windows 11 and Linux systems as GNU distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Zorin OS, Puppy Linux, were all affected. A couple of days later, Microsoft provided a slightly lengthy workaround that involved tweaking around with policies and the Registry in order to fix the problem. The company also explained that the root of the issue was a buggy SBAT (Secure Boot Advanced Targeting) implementation in the Windows 11 August Patch Tuesday KB5041585. For those who may be wondering, SBAT helps block outdated and potentially vulnerable bootloaders by checking the Secure Boot DBX. The Secure Boot DBX is a database of blacklisted UEFI executables. Microsoft explained: After installing the August 2024 Windows security update, (KB5041585) or the August 2024 preview update, you might face issues with booting Linux if you have enabled the dual-boot setup for Windows and Linux in your device. Resulting from this issue, your device might fail to boot Linux and show the error message “Verifying shim SBAT data failed: Security Policy Violation. Something has gone seriously wrong: SBAT self-check failed: Security Policy Violation.” The August 2024 Windows security and preview updates apply a Secure Boot Advanced Targeting (SBAT) setting to devices that run Windows to block old, vulnerable boot managers. This SBAT update will not be applied to devices where dual booting is detected. On some devices, the dual-boot detection did not detect some customized methods of dual-booting and applied the SBAT value when it should not have been applied. The problem has been resolved this week with the latest May 2025 Patch Tuesday under KB5058405. This also happens to be the first Windows 11 Hotpatch update. Tags Report a problem with article Follow @NeowinFeed
    0 Yorumlar 0 hisse senetleri 0 önizleme
  • Valve rolls out SteamOS compatibility labels for third-party handhelds


    What just happened? Valve recently announced an alternative to the Steam Deck compatibility rating system aimed at third-party devices.
    The new SteamOS Compatibility labels work slightly differently but should provide users with vital information for each game as the company moves toward a general release for the gaming-focused Linux distro.

    Users who install the SteamOS beta on the Lenovo Legion Go S and the Asus ROG Ally should begin seeing new compatibility ratings on Steam store pages in the coming weeks.
    The new labels provide basic info regarding what happens when booting a title on Valve's Linux-based operating system.
    The Steam Deck verification system is a vital component of the Steam Deck's success, informing players which games run smoothly on the handheld gaming PC.
    The system is now so successful that major developers often optimize PC games to receive Valve's green check on their Steam store pages.

    On non-Steam Deck devices, a blue check will appear instead.
    Every Steam Deck Verified title will receive a marker saying "Successfully runs on SteamOS." However, users should note that the label has no bearing on performance.
    It only confirms that a game's engine and middleware, including anti-cheat, fully support Valve's Proton compatibility layer.
    Users will also sometimes see warnings for games that require internet connections during initial setup or include launchers that require mouse input.
    Valve estimates that around 18,000 titles will immediately receive SteamOS Compatibility checks when the system rolls out.
    While SteamOS will eventually become available for more handheld gaming PCs, the Legion Go S is currently the only third-party device that officially supports the OS.
    Lenovo is set to begin offering the handheld with Valve's OS pre-installed in the coming weeks for $150 less than the Windows 11 version.

    // Related Stories


    SteamOS has been the Steam Deck's primary advantage over Windows-based handhelds.
    Although devices like the ROG Ally X are more powerful, SteamOS runs many games more efficiently and is easier to navigate on a small screen with a controller.
    The Linux distro could surge in popularity on other handhelds, but a general release will likely complicate per-game optimization.
    Speculation has also spread regarding SteamOS' potential on desktops or other form factors and whether it can challenge Windows in the PC gaming sector.
    Recent reports indicate that Valve is preparing three more SteamOS devices: a standalone VR headset slated for later this year, a true successor to the Steam Deck that lies further out, and a mysterious "Fremont" project that could be a set-top box.
    The headset and Fremont will port SteamOS to Arm.


    المصدر: https://www.techspot.com/news/107891-valve-rolls-out-steamos-compatibility-labels-third-party.html

    #Valve #rolls #out #SteamOS #compatibility #labels #for #thirdparty #handhelds
    Valve rolls out SteamOS compatibility labels for third-party handhelds
    What just happened? Valve recently announced an alternative to the Steam Deck compatibility rating system aimed at third-party devices. The new SteamOS Compatibility labels work slightly differently but should provide users with vital information for each game as the company moves toward a general release for the gaming-focused Linux distro. Users who install the SteamOS beta on the Lenovo Legion Go S and the Asus ROG Ally should begin seeing new compatibility ratings on Steam store pages in the coming weeks. The new labels provide basic info regarding what happens when booting a title on Valve's Linux-based operating system. The Steam Deck verification system is a vital component of the Steam Deck's success, informing players which games run smoothly on the handheld gaming PC. The system is now so successful that major developers often optimize PC games to receive Valve's green check on their Steam store pages. On non-Steam Deck devices, a blue check will appear instead. Every Steam Deck Verified title will receive a marker saying "Successfully runs on SteamOS." However, users should note that the label has no bearing on performance. It only confirms that a game's engine and middleware, including anti-cheat, fully support Valve's Proton compatibility layer. Users will also sometimes see warnings for games that require internet connections during initial setup or include launchers that require mouse input. Valve estimates that around 18,000 titles will immediately receive SteamOS Compatibility checks when the system rolls out. While SteamOS will eventually become available for more handheld gaming PCs, the Legion Go S is currently the only third-party device that officially supports the OS. Lenovo is set to begin offering the handheld with Valve's OS pre-installed in the coming weeks for $150 less than the Windows 11 version. // Related Stories SteamOS has been the Steam Deck's primary advantage over Windows-based handhelds. Although devices like the ROG Ally X are more powerful, SteamOS runs many games more efficiently and is easier to navigate on a small screen with a controller. The Linux distro could surge in popularity on other handhelds, but a general release will likely complicate per-game optimization. Speculation has also spread regarding SteamOS' potential on desktops or other form factors and whether it can challenge Windows in the PC gaming sector. Recent reports indicate that Valve is preparing three more SteamOS devices: a standalone VR headset slated for later this year, a true successor to the Steam Deck that lies further out, and a mysterious "Fremont" project that could be a set-top box. The headset and Fremont will port SteamOS to Arm. المصدر: https://www.techspot.com/news/107891-valve-rolls-out-steamos-compatibility-labels-third-party.html #Valve #rolls #out #SteamOS #compatibility #labels #for #thirdparty #handhelds
    WWW.TECHSPOT.COM
    Valve rolls out SteamOS compatibility labels for third-party handhelds
    What just happened? Valve recently announced an alternative to the Steam Deck compatibility rating system aimed at third-party devices. The new SteamOS Compatibility labels work slightly differently but should provide users with vital information for each game as the company moves toward a general release for the gaming-focused Linux distro. Users who install the SteamOS beta on the Lenovo Legion Go S and the Asus ROG Ally should begin seeing new compatibility ratings on Steam store pages in the coming weeks. The new labels provide basic info regarding what happens when booting a title on Valve's Linux-based operating system. The Steam Deck verification system is a vital component of the Steam Deck's success, informing players which games run smoothly on the handheld gaming PC. The system is now so successful that major developers often optimize PC games to receive Valve's green check on their Steam store pages. On non-Steam Deck devices, a blue check will appear instead. Every Steam Deck Verified title will receive a marker saying "Successfully runs on SteamOS." However, users should note that the label has no bearing on performance. It only confirms that a game's engine and middleware, including anti-cheat, fully support Valve's Proton compatibility layer. Users will also sometimes see warnings for games that require internet connections during initial setup or include launchers that require mouse input. Valve estimates that around 18,000 titles will immediately receive SteamOS Compatibility checks when the system rolls out. While SteamOS will eventually become available for more handheld gaming PCs, the Legion Go S is currently the only third-party device that officially supports the OS. Lenovo is set to begin offering the handheld with Valve's OS pre-installed in the coming weeks for $150 less than the Windows 11 version. // Related Stories SteamOS has been the Steam Deck's primary advantage over Windows-based handhelds. Although devices like the ROG Ally X are more powerful, SteamOS runs many games more efficiently and is easier to navigate on a small screen with a controller. The Linux distro could surge in popularity on other handhelds, but a general release will likely complicate per-game optimization. Speculation has also spread regarding SteamOS' potential on desktops or other form factors and whether it can challenge Windows in the PC gaming sector. Recent reports indicate that Valve is preparing three more SteamOS devices: a standalone VR headset slated for later this year, a true successor to the Steam Deck that lies further out, and a mysterious "Fremont" project that could be a set-top box. The headset and Fremont will port SteamOS to Arm.
    0 Yorumlar 0 hisse senetleri 0 önizleme
CGShares https://cgshares.com