Within three months of becoming CEO of the Honest Company in 2023, Carla Vernn slashed 25% of its eco-friendly goods. That seems tame in comparison to what happened when Brad Charron joined Aloha as CEO in 2017: He killed off every product category.Now on the other side of major rebrands and company pivots, these CEOs say there wasnt necessarily a playbook to follow when they joined their respective companies as outsiders. While assuming the role of turnaround CEO proved difficultand not one either would like to undertake againthere are many lessons learned, which they shared during a discussion at the Fast Company Grill at SXSW.When Charron was initially approached about becoming chief marketing officer of Aloha, he was unimpressed with the product lineup and after about an hour meeting with the team, he concluded the organic, plant-based food company wouldnt be in business a year from then. He ultimately decided to join Aloha as CEO, giving himself a made-up title of re-founder, and initiated a company re-start, killing off all of existing products like trail mix and chocolates and launching the current lineup of protein bars, powders and drinks.It was a complete destruction because that was what was needed, Charron told the SXSW audience. You couldnt step-change your way to fixing all that illed it.While Vernns changes at Honest were less drastic, she had the added pressure of overseeing a publicly-traded companyWall Street gave me no grace. Honest had gone public less than two years before she arrived and while private, it had experimented with launching products in a wide variety of categories, she said.One of her first tasks as CEO was to evaluate the wide range of Honest items, from the core or hero products beloved by consumers to those with varying success by financial metricsand everything in-between. In the end, 25% of the products were slashed.People think that thats risky, but our company grew revenues for the first time in two years when we had less variety in our portfolio because we could focus on what mattered and what was good, she said. Product quality is your number one focus.EMPOWERING EMPLOYEESEmpowering employees to have a sense of ownership at both Honest and Aloha was also key to these turnaround success stories, the CEOs said.There is more scrutiny and skepticism of the outsider, both from the employee base and from the investor base, who has to figure out whether they can trust you managing their money, Vernn said. One of the things I introduced is that every single full time employeeI dont care if that is the office mom or if that is the CFOthey are all shareholders, and so they are all invested in us figuring out how to be aligned with our retail partners and with our investors.Charron likewise focused on ensuring employees felt a sense of ownership in Aloha.The most precious thing we have in the world is our time, and theres nothing worse than wasting your energy and your heart and your soul on something thats not symmetrically set up for a future success, he said. I had to find people who would be willing to kind of put their skin on the line a little bit and be an employee-owner mentality.NAVIGATING DIFFICULTYEven though he came into a situation he knew would be difficultand proved to be difficultand Charron said it was important to recognize that fixing so much that was broken wouldnt happen quickly.Everything across the entire ecosystem of the company needed to be questioned and we needed to have patience that eventually we were going to build something that was going to work, he said. Thats really kind-of the core discipline that has gotten Aloha to where it is today.Vernn had more time pressure to enact a pivother first earnings call was eight weeks after she became CEOand she needed the buy-in of the board of directors and investors. While she said working at Honest has been the thrill and adventure of a lifetime, there were some tough days early on and thats when she leaned on her support network.It was a very, I think fragile moment for us as a company and I am so proud that weve come through actually stronger.