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Lazarus Shinichir Watanabe Wants You To Forget About Cowboy Bebop For a Bit
Shinichir Watanabe is a true anime auteur who is responsible for some of the most celebrated titles to come out of the late 90s and 2000s, such as Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Space Dandy, and Carole & Tuesday. Watanabes series cover incredibly diverse material, but all his anime successfully connect with audiences because of the meticulous work that Watanabe channels into their characters, universe, and the music that brings them all together. Any new Watanabe project is cause for celebration, but his upcoming Adult Swim project Lazarus is particularly exciting.Lazarus tells an action-packed sci-fi parable in which an elite team of agents are assembled to locate a reclusive scientist, Dr. Skinner, who is responsible for the creation of Hapna, a miracle cure-all drug that was initially viewed as the worlds miracle, but is now killing all of its users three years later. The Lazarus teams mission to locate Dr. Skinner and create a Hapna vaccine is Earths best chance against mass extinction. Lazarus is rich in contemplative questions, compelling characters, and subversive storytelling. Its also a masterpiece when it comes to its action sequences and choreography, which benefit from having John Wicks Chad Stahelski on staff as action supervisor. The show has the potential to be one of the biggest anime of 2025, but also one of the most popular animated series to ever air on Adult Swim and Max.In honor of Lazarus premiere, Shinichir Watanabe goes deep on world-building, the importance of music as a storytelling tool, if Lazarus is set in the same universe as Cowboy Bebop, and whether audiences will ever see more Space Dandy.DEN OF GEEK: Theres such a distinct look to this futuristic world, its architecture, technology, and vehicles. Can you talk a little on developing the design of this futuristic society and if there were any influences there?SHINICHIR WATANABE: The big decision in terms of design was who are we gonna ask to design this for us? We asked the French designer, Stanislas Brunet, to join us for this. Hes part of a team called Studio No Border. French artists have a very different, distinct style from Japanese designers. Thats also why we asked him to join us for our previous project, Carole & Tuesday.They begin their design by thinking about how the buildings should be constructed. Should they be 3D-printed or not, for example? Im a big fan of their aesthetics, which is why I relied on them again. They use a 3D program called SketchUp Terra and a big benefit of this is that they make very detailed 3D models of the buildings. Were able to take those and then use them for our actual art designs.Another rule or policy for design in Lazarus is that while we are in a futuristic city, I wanted to add some contrast and disparity between the richer and the poorer areas. So, its very futuristic and clean in the areas that have a lot of money. However, the poor areas are like slums and very dirty. Another reason why I went this way is that it adds more reality. If everything is very futuristic and very clean then it doesnt seem as grounded in reality.Thats super interesting. I also love how the action and chase sequences have such kinetic movement. The fight choreography is so impressive, too. I know that Chad Stahelski is the series Action Supervisor. Can you talk about his role in Lazarus and what that relationship was like?When we first reached out to Chads team, they were still recording John Wick 4. So, it was a bit difficult at the time. It seemed like they werent going to be able to fully participate, so we were completely fine with just getting some advice from them. However, upon speaking to them, they were very much on board for joining the project and doing as much as possible. They used their stunt team to record some live-action previews, which they sent to us and then we used as the inspiration for the animation. Their participation, since theyre very busy, became dependent on the episode. Chad worked on some episodes and then the animation staff from our end worked on some episodes.It may be a fun challenge for the viewer to figure out which is which. Try to figure out which episodes are Chads and which is our animation staff. Then, you can check your answers by watching the end credits, since Chads name will be there for the episodes that he participated in.Your series do such a great job when it comes to using music as a universal language and a tool to develop themes and characters. How did you figure out Lazarus sound? And can you just expand a little more on whats going on with the series music and sound?Join our mailing listGet the best of Den of Geek delivered right to your inbox!This time, unlike previous projects, theres a more electronic, dance music, and EDM-driven sound. Theres also a very jazz musician style, too. Theres another artist, Kamasi Washington, his music is more jazz. So he fills that role for us. The use of jazz music has led to a lot of other people bringing up that this might be similar to a previous project that Ive worked on [Cowboy Bebop]. But lets forget about that series for a little bit and just focus on enjoying this one.I understand those comparisons, but its a totally different sound. Youre doing such different stuff. What you did with the music in Terror in Resonance the whole Norwegian sound is one of my favorite things that youve done. You always put so much thought into what the soundtrack should represent. You can really feel that in Lazarus. Its super cool.Thank you!You create a lived-in universe with Lazarus. Do you see other stories being told in this universe? Once the Dr. Skinner adventure is over, could there be future stories, or even a movie thats with these characters or in this world?Of course, thats a possibility if this is a big hit. We wont know until Lazarus is released. Until then, we just have to keep our fingers crossed.It seems like a lot of your series kind of exist in the same universe. There are subtle references between them, even if its just like the Woolong currency. Are there any Easter eggs like this in Lazarus that fans should maybe look out for? Or something they should pay attention towards?Not so much this time, no. But they do take place in the same universe. So they are connected somewhere.I really loved your work on the Blade Runner Black Out 2022 anime and The Animatrix. Are there any other American properties that you would like to transform into an anime and explore their worlds through that context? You can choose anything here! No restrictions!Im trying to think, but Blade Runner would really be my favorite thing to dream about working on. Ive already been there and done that. I think Im satisfied there.Finally, Im such a huge Space Dandy fan. Its maybe my favorite anime of all time. Im always hoping that a movie might happen one day. Is there one Space Dandy story or detail that nobody knows about that you could share?Youve got some good taste if you like Space Dandy! The secret is, Im always ready to make more seasons of Space Dandy. The same goes for the staff that worked on it as well. However, it wasnt a huge success, so its hard to find financing for it. So maybe some rich oil money will fall our way and it can finally happen.Lazarus premieres April 5 at midnight on Adult Swim, with next-day-streaming on Max.
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