Charlie Cox on a She-Hulk/Daredevil Reunion: Maybe We'll Get to See the Favor Returned
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As Charlie Cox and Vincent DOnofrio get ready to return to action for Daredevil: Born Again on Disney+, the question has come up once again about how Matt Murdocks time hanging out with Tatiana Maslanys She-Hulk fits into the overall chronology of the Man Without Fear.Cox guest-starred on the Disney+ series She-Hulk: Attorney at Law in 2022, but the tone of that show was much more fun and light as compared to the heaviness of Netflixs Daredevil and the upcoming Born Again. Plus, Matt Murdock had a different costume in She-Hulk! This is the kind of thing that drives comics fans crazy, but the actor thinks it all makes perfect sense.PlayFirst off, he acknowledges that those episodes take place before Born Again. I think it's a case of whatever was going on with Matt in that period of time, Cox tells IGN. He was able to leave that in JFK when he got on the plane. He also jokes that what happens in L.A. stays in L.A.The actor is very aware of the polarizing response Daredevils time on She-Hulk received. It's funny how many opinions I've heard about this little moment in She-Hulk, he continues. There's the Walk of Shame, which was a last-minute idea where they set up a big green screen and just had me walk across it carrying my shoes. And a lot of people don't like it, and a lot of people love it.Still, essentially the version of Matt seen in She-Hulk wouldnt really work in his own show. But thats kind of how its always gone with superhero stories.If you take the Matt Murdock from our show and put him in She-Hulk as-is, he's probably overly serious and becomes the butt of all jokes.If you take the Matt Murdock from our show and you put him in She-Hulk as-is, he's probably overly serious and becomes the butt of all jokes, says Cox. So he's got to adapt to the tone. And there's precedent within the comics. There are many runs of the comics where there's a lot of levity, there's a lot of tongue-in-cheek, a lot of fun.Hawkeye was the same for me, adds D'Onofrio, who returned as Wilson Fisk for that MCU series.It's an opportunity, continues Cox. It's a whole different [kind of] fun with that. And maybe at some point we'll get to see the favor returned.Another question thats in the air once again is regarding how exactly the previous Netflix adventures of Murdock and Fisk fit into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Cox says that both shows are for sure, 100% set in the same universe, and D'Onofrio adds that he considers Born Again a fourth season of the old show.Daredevil: Born AgainThe reason why this was ever even a question is because the Netflix series (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders, and The Punisher), while very interconnected themselves, were never quite acknowledged by the movie side of the MCU. The Netflix Marvel shows debuted in 2015 with Daredevil and continued until 2019, but in all that time they were basically cordoned off from the Avengers side of things. This, we have learned over the years, was in part due to behind-the-scenes jockeying between Marvel and Disney execs who didnt want to share their toys, basically.But the Netflix/Marvel deal eventually ended and the House of Ideas was able to fully incorporate the characters into the MCU proper. Cox appeared in Spider-Man: No Way Home in 2021, and then later in She-Hulk and Echo, while DOnofrio popped up in Hawkeye and Echo too.When their Netflix show ended in 2018, Cox and DOnofrio actually had very different takes on their chances of ever continuing as, respectively, the Man Without Fear and the Kingpin of Crime.I was convinced we were done, says Cox of returning as Matt Murdock at that point. And when we got that [cancellation] phone call in 2018, I moved on emotionally, obviously, being quite sad about the whole thing. But Vince and I would talk occasionally, and he was convinced that at some point we would get a phone call, and we'd be back. And I would get off the phone and think that he was crazy! So when I heard from Kevin Feige in 2020, I was shocked, blown away.DOnofrio figured that they had knocked it out the park with the Netflix show, and his instincts proved to be correct. It wouldve been tough for fans to accept new actors as Daredevil and Kingpin, despite the fact that they took a break from playing those characters. That also carried over to Cox and DOnofrios castmates, Deborah Ann Woll who plays Karen Page and Elden Henson who plays Foggy Nelson.In fact, as originally conceived, Born Again was not going to include those versions of Karen and Foggy. But about halfway through production on the show, Marvel execs decided to make some changes. New writers and directors were brought in to revamp what had already been shot with an idea to re-centering the series on the Netflix version where it had all started.Every Marvel TV Show in the Disney+ Era RankedThat was tough for me to swallow, says DOnofrio. I know we felt emotional about not having the others back. Because our success in that show, we believe, is not just because of us and the writing. We believe it's because of the whole cast and the writing. Elden and Deborah, those characters are theirs now. Nobody will ever play those characters as well as they did, as far as I'm concerned. And they needed to be part of the family.All that said, the actors are also aware that tonally the Netflix show and Born Again tend to skew a bit darker than the more family-friendly MCU.We're put in these positions all the time, says DOnofrio. But I will just say, because it's my favorite thing to say, our job is to service a story. And when it's put in front of us from a company like Marvel, youre like, O.K., I'll service that story to the best of my ability. That's what our job is.For more on Daredevil: Born Again, keep checking back at IGN in the lead-up to the premiere!
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