IDontBeatGamesThreadMarksman - Saved Transistor's sanity twiceMemberOct 29, 201720,436New YorkSourceIn his response, Trinen insisted Mario Kart world justifies its price tag, and pointed to the upcoming dedicated Mario Kart World Nintendo Direct where fans will learn more about the game and what it has to offer.Click to expand...Click to shrink..."I would say it's less about the strategy of pricing Mario Kart World, it's more just whenever we look at a given game, we just look at what is the experience, and what's the content, and what's the value?" Trinen said."Mario Kart World, I think especially as you see from the Nintendo Direct, not to give you any hints or anything, but I did read your article this morning and I think you had mentioned that you didn't find a lot to discover when roaming around. So I would say tune into our Mario Kart Direct to see what, maybe you'll be able to find out about that."But honestly, this is a game that is so big and so vast and you will find so many little things in it to discover. And there's still some other secrets remaining that I think as people end up buying and playing the game, they're going to find this to be probably the richest Mario Kart experience they've ever had."Click to expand...Click to shrink...We also asked Trinen about the $80 cost of some of the Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games. While there is a $10 upgrade path for existing owners of these games on the Switch, and both The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Nintendo Switch 2 Edition ($69.99) and The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Nintendo Switch 2 Edition ($79.99) are available as part of the Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack membership, Nintendo is not offering any sort of discount to newcomers on Switch 2. Trinen's answer here echoed his Mario Kart World response, pointing to the value Nintendo sees in its games.Click to expand...Click to shrink..."Well, again, what I would say is that we just look at each individual game and we look at the content and the value of that game, and then we say, 'what is the right price for the value of this entertainment?' " he said."What I would probably counter to some of that is that really what you're looking at is for the Nintendo Switch 2 Edition, that's the physical price for somebody that has not bought the base game. For somebody who has bought Tears of the Kingdom or Breath of the Wild, the upgrade packs for those are $9.99. And if you happen to be a Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack member, both of the Zelda upgrade packs are inclusive within that membership. So there's no additional charge for those."But I think overall, our general approach is really just focus on what's the content, what's the value, and what's an appropriate price based on that."Click to expand...Click to shrink... Vic20MemberNov 10, 20194,383It's a commercially accurate price.asd202EnlightenedMemberOct 27, 201710,977Pay up and shut upmrmickfranThe FallenOct 27, 201732,625GongagaDROP THE PRICEWrexisMemberNov 4, 201728,634I don't have a problem (mostly) with them charging that much for a new game. $80 for an eight year old game though?grandMemberOct 25, 201730,043I mean what else are they going to say? "No, it's not justified"?pikachuizgodMemberApr 19, 20192,626I mean they're not gonna say otherwise?BuccaMemberOct 25, 20174,823I don't doubt that MKW will have tons of contentBut the response really reads like : "We can predict which games will sell markedly more and we will charge extra for those to increase profit margins"Not that they were gonna come out and say it isn't justified or anything lolMANTRAMemberFeb 21, 2024875That is a lot of words for what are essentially empty statements.cw_sasukeMemberOct 27, 201729,516I mean what else would they say ?"Nah big dawg you are right, we gonna sell it for 60 now" KahhhhyleMemberJun 8, 20213,030I do wonder what the impact will be. I didn't get MK8D until imi could get it for $40 or something... Will this game ever even get that to that price? Idk if I'd even pay $60 for itTanookiTomMemberOct 29, 2017811BerlinHe seems to be hinting that there's more to Mario kart world, specifically the open world part, that they haven't shown yet or am I reading this wrong? KraqMemberOct 25, 2017865Reggie would be proud of the PR adeptness on display here.BuccaMemberOct 25, 20174,823Kahhhhyle said:I do wonder what the impact will be. I didn't get MK8D until imi could get it for $40 or something... Will this game ever even get that to that price? Idk if I'd even pay $60 for itClick to expand...Click to shrink...Maybe in about 5-6 years you'll get $15 offgrandMemberOct 25, 201730,043Wrexis said:I don't have a problem (mostly) with them charging that much for a new game. $80 for an eight year old game though?Click to expand...Click to shrink...?KhanimusAvengerOct 25, 201745,241Greater VancouverAh, the "because we can" strategy2CL4MarsMemberNov 9, 20182,363Plenty of games have hundreds if not thousands of hours of playtime that cost half or 10 Euro less then Mario Kart world...Lobster Rollsignature-less, now and foreverMemberSep 24, 201939,840Sounds like a very corporate response as you'd expect. The truth is that these prices were inevitable the moment consumers went to bat for companies going from $60 to $70. This is just a natural next step until these companies find the high-end price point where it starts to affect their bottom lines.BurtFight Sephiroth or end video gamesMemberOct 28, 20179,427Oh yeah then try billing by the hourRedHeatMemberOct 25, 201713,571Cyberpunk 2077 deserves a 70$ price tag more than any Mario Kart at 80$ MatushMemberOct 25, 20171,519SlovakiaLMAO, they aren't even hiding it anymore.AudibleeMemberMar 14, 2025436Unless it includes future dlc for free, it hasn't proven anything. What an amazingly bad PR team Nintendo has now.atomskMemberOct 28, 20171,720I mean, it's the same as them deciding to charge $70 for TOTK on the oldass Switch hardware, "because fuck you, that's why"StringsMemberOct 27, 201734,217Hoping there'll finally be a singleplayer campaign. I understand that would be unthinkable without the extra $$$ because no cart racing game has ever attempted that.AlekGames User ResearcherVerifiedOct 28, 20179,688TanookiTom said:He seems to be hinting that there's more to Mario kart world, specifically the open world part, that they haven't shown yet or am I reading this wrong? Click to expand...Click to shrink...In what sense? I expect it will be more than just racing, but have open world exploration elements too. So inherently, it will be full of things to discover, and secrets.DalUncle Works at NintendoMemberAug 18, 20242,049Bog-standard corporate speak. They are charging for it because they can and to chase growth.No doubt thus game is much more expensive than Mario Kart 8 was for Nintendo, like any corporation they want product 2 to make more money than product 1 and at this point the only way to do this is.....to increase the price.Gonna see that with a lot of their heavy hitters this gen because of the same issue.KahhhhyleMemberJun 8, 20213,030Bucca said:Maybe in about 5-6 years you'll get $15 offClick to expand...Click to shrink...Hopefully it's cheaper on eBay then lol. If not I guess I'm not gonna be playing itWrexisMemberNov 4, 201728,634grand said:Breath of the Wild Switch 2 Edition is $80.SoapboxMemberOct 28, 201732,782TanookiTom said:He seems to be hinting that there's more to Mario kart world, specifically the open world part, that they haven't shown yet or am I reading this wrong? Click to expand...Click to shrink...They have to be cooking something big.JawmuncherCrisis DinoModeratorOct 25, 201744,062Ibis IslandWouldn't expect him to say otherwise BUTThe answer is pretty BS and is absolutely just "It's $80 because we said so". Saying the game is "big" doesn't really mean much when say BOTW was a big game and they didn't suddenly decide it was worth $70, 7 years ago.Personally, I feel that gamers as a collective failed the test that TOTK gave when it was priced at $70 and Nintendo took that info as "If it's one of the BIG Ips, they'll pay an extra $10 on it". Donkey Kong is being spared the $80 price tag just because it's the start of a new entry imo. ponzu_boyJ->E LocalizationVerifiedOct 25, 20174,902Single player mode spanning an entire open world!?Rinku_MemberMay 4, 20231,940Cool to see Bill is still around. I don't really have a ton of anger around higher prices at launch if its so devs can manage the higher costs they're taking on, Nintendo being so against putting their games on sales this gen and last is the more shitty part imo. Doesn't matter how high the quality is, a 10 year old game should not cost that much money to experience. They've already made massively back on their return.AudibleeMemberMar 14, 2025436Knockout mode on Nintendos awful online servers has existed for many years.NotLiquidOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 201737,483It's nice to hear from Trinen again. That's the real news here.TanookiTom said:He seems to be hinting that there's more to Mario kart world, specifically the open world part, that they haven't shown yet or am I reading this wrong? Click to expand...Click to shrink...Naturally. People have already spotted stuff like collectibles based on the menu.EternalaMemberOct 6, 2024916Of course they say that, but lol no.NikokunoUnshakable ResolveMemberJul 22, 2019911People really expected any corporation to say it's not the right price or we won't compromise on our margins ?Infinite BarrelsMemberMar 28, 202424680 maybe, 90 notZ-BrownieMemberNov 6, 20174,274Nothing can justify a $80 game ... nothing.RedHeat said:Cyberpunk 2077 deserves a 70$ price tag more than any Mario Kart at 80$Click to expand...Click to shrink...Specially with the expansionGunny T HighwayUnshakable Resolve - One Winged SlayerMemberOct 27, 201719,258CanadaAka. Pay up!HMS_PinaforeMemberOct 25, 20175,841Straya M8Americans should pay twice as much, seeing they're destroying Japan's economy right now.Rip bozos. Fortunately the prices are more reasonable here. jokkirMemberOct 25, 20178,959If all future DLC is free then maybe I don't mind it.grandMemberOct 25, 201730,043Wrexis said:Breath of the Wild Switch 2 Edition is $80.Click to expand...Click to shrink...It's $70. Only Tears is $80. Both prices are even mentioned in the OPThe Switch 2 editions are just Nintendo tacking on the upgrade price to current Switch 1 MRSP.ConflictResolverMemberJan 1, 20243,964MidgarI'm just annoyed the bundle is so much better value for money, because I would prefer physical but can't justify it with that price gap.Wish it had a physical copy inside.Edit: Just realised if it's a digital code and not automatically pre-installed, I can sell that to cover getting a physical copy.freskyMemberMay 3, 202369Unless there's a fun single player mode it's just not for me. Like it's harder to justify spending more on a game I'm not interested in playing. But I guess it's popular so they can get away with it.BassForeverOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 201731,459CTWrexis said:Breath of the Wild Switch 2 Edition is $80.Click to expand...Click to shrink...No it's 69.99, the pricing scheme is easyNew content for Switch 2 is +20 (cost of expansion if it was sold separately)Major enhancements for switch 2 is +10 (cost of upgrade fee if you have Switch 1 copy)BotW is a game Nintendo sells for $60, is $70 on Switch 2TotK is a game Nintendo sells for $70, is $80 on Switch 2Kirby Forgotten Land and Mario Party Jamboree are currently $60, now $80 with their switch 2 expansionsinkblotMemberMar 27, 2024967That Mario Kart tidbit sounds like an adventure mode or revamped mission mode tease or somethingWrexisMemberNov 4, 201728,634grand said:It's $70. Only Tears is $80. Both prices are even mentioned in the OPThe Switch 2 editions are just Nintendo tacking on the upgrade price to current Switch 1 MRSP.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah my bad. $70, though 80 that's where I got confused.nofflesUncle Works at NintendoMemberNov 10, 20171,150Bill Trinen is possibly the only man left at NOA willing to take a PR bullet in the same way Reggie was in giving this statement.Whatever ends up in the game, I still wouldn't be happy with the price.JawmuncherCrisis DinoModeratorOct 25, 201744,062Ibis IslandI will say personally, I'm more irked by the expensive Switch 2 edition games. As they really highlight the lack of sales/price drops from Nintendo this gen. Especially as these titles CAN be had for cheaper elsewhere. So to me, it just seems odd they didn't do some official "price drops" to perhaps garner some good will.These Switch 2 Editions becoming a $60 version and the Switch 1 versions being made4 $40 would've likely brought some good will towards them. Hell, I would imagine they would've enticed more people to "rebuy" the game fully even if they already had it just to have a new copy on their shelf.JoRuMemberOct 25, 20171,948Jawmuncher said:Personally, I feel that gamers as a collective failed the test that TOTK gave when it was priced at $70 and Nintendo took that info as "If it's one of the BIG Ips, they'll pay an extra $10 on it". Donkey Kong is being spared the $80 price tag just because it's the start of a new entry imo.Click to expand...Click to shrink...This is exactly it. The strategy is obviously "$70 standard price, $80 for major entries in A-tier IP:s". A-tier IP:s are essentially Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros. and Animal Crossing at its core. Donkey Kong is B-tier (right now at least), so it's $70.