DustC H A O SMemberOct 25, 201739,934I don't really care about achievements/trophies from personal gaming perspective but I will admit they make sense from business point of view. People will buy games for them. People will play longer to get them. People will research them in relation to games.Yesterday's Direct confirmed once again that they are not bothering with that feature on a system wide level.So why do you think Nintendo is (clearly) averse to them? Do they think they cheapen the gaming experience? Do they simply not care? There has to be a reason, as I have seen this feature requested by Nintendo users quite a lot. ConflictResolverMemberJan 1, 20243,852MidgarBecause the purity of enjoying the game are the trophies. Don't need a meta layer on top of the purity. They aren't jobs, they're games.NintendoSwitchLoverMemberJun 6, 20181,055We didn't really get much info on UI and system features but maybe in typical Nintendo fashion they're waiting until they can put their own spin on itWrexisMemberNov 4, 201728,586They probably think the popups are detrimental to the core gaming experience (and yes I know you can turn them off). Personally I would hate to see this in a Mario game.strudelkuchenMemberOct 25, 201713,021ConflictResolver said:Because the purity of the game is the trophy.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yet they add it to botw/totk via mobile app. lolTsunami561MemberMar 7, 20235,143they are thinking of a way to charge you for itKemono Legend MemberOct 27, 20178,491They need something to sell as a new nintendo idea in a few years. Just like they did yesterday with their C button.ConflictResolverMemberJan 1, 20243,852Midgarstrudelkuchen said:Yet they add it to botw/totk via mobile app. lolClick to expand...Click to shrink...Yes that is a very weird thing, because it goes completely against the design philosophy of the game.Bony ManifestoMemberOct 27, 20174,270I think it's purely Not Invented Here syndrome.GruntyMemberOct 28, 20179,699Gruntildas LairConflictResolver said:Because the purity of enjoying the game are the trophies. Don't need a meta layer on top of the purity. They aren't jobs, they're games.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah okay lol antispinMemberOct 27, 20174,865They haven't found a good enough hook, most likely, beyond numbers go up. They will have something in place once they have a spin.NekoNekoCowardOct 26, 201719,981because most people don't care about this sort of thing and it's probably not part of their philosophy. many of their games have achievements built in.DarkPrinceMemberDec 2, 20171,201Participation trophies aren't needed, enjoy and focus on the game.Last_colossiThe FallenOct 27, 20174,603AustraliaConflictResolver said:Because the purity of enjoying the game are the trophies. Don't need a meta layer on top of the purity. They aren't jobs, they're games.Click to expand...Click to shrink....1000% this.Swarming1182MemberJan 14, 2018520I think it's just antithetical to their core approach to gaming.That's not to say I'm not a little disappointed they don't appear to be included. One of the things I like about trophies is they can offer an incentive to explore all the nooks and crannies of a game where I might otherwise have just put it down and started something else.But I think Nintendo see the joy of playing the game itself as somewhat undermined by some overhead 'meta' progression/achievement system which distracts from just enjoying the game for its own sake.DECKARDCreator of WormsVerifiedNov 26, 20176,916UKI always saw achievements as being like a job when baked into the OS. Or simply bragging points.Implement them on a game by game basis, if it suits them, but demanding it?Nah.nsilviasMemberOct 25, 201729,314they dont wanna know the real numbers on how many people dont finish games.nofflesUncle Works at NintendoMemberNov 10, 20171,125I think Nintendo's approach is to just let it be an ingame system if there is something. Sakurai's mantra seems to be working one in despite what hardware he's on, and it usually ends up with a more interesting system along the lines of Kid Icarus.eZipsisThe FallenOct 25, 20172,869Melbourne, AustraliaNintendo probably won't do them because trophy lists always get leaked and the trophies will contain spoilers and Nintendo is firmly against any spoilers for their games.I couldn't care less about trophies or achievements, so it doesn't bother me at all they aren't there.AlehMemberOct 27, 201719,435Because achievements suck and they happen to agree with me on this one thing GovernWortProphet of TruthMemberFeb 20, 20201,066ConflictResolver said:Because the purity of enjoying the game are the trophies. Don't need a meta layer on top of the purity. They aren't jobs, they're games.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Mario Party Jamboree has achievements.LotusOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 2017121,944Beats me, but I'm glad that's the case.KalorResettlement AdvisorMemberOct 25, 201720,683I imagine it's a case of not wanting to make it mandatory versus an opposition to them. Once it's added on a system level then there's a expectation every game will have them even if it was optional for developers. So instead they just add it in-game on a case by case basis.unicornKnight Legend MemberOct 27, 201714,404Athens, GreeceThe global play data and my play data they did for Zelda Notes should be a thing for all games:CheesetrianglesMemberDec 5, 20172,351Because they know they are bad.KtSlimeMemberOct 25, 20176,967TokyoPretty thankful, leave it up to the game designer to decide what kind of rewards system their game will have,DECKARDCreator of WormsVerifiedNov 26, 20176,916UKKtSlime said:Pretty thankful, leave it up to the game designer to decide what kind of rewards system their game will have,Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yep.Shoehorning in silly requirements to be able to 100% a game which doesn't really suit such a system is horrible.EinBearMemberOct 27, 20171,948I really like achievements/trophies as a record of the games I've played. It's just fun to go back on my Xbox profile and see my Oblivion achievements from the summer of 2006 or whatever.I'd be happy if they'd just kept the activity log going from the 3DS really, it sucks that they scrapped it. If my Switch 2 profile showed I'd played 50 hours of A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS, that would pretty cool.GreywarenMemberJul 16, 201912,571SpainThey know I don't care about them, so they don't bother.andymoogleMemberOct 27, 20173,219I would think is is because they are mostly useless. Do you really need a pat on the shoulder every other step in a campaign?I know they are fairly popular, but that doesn't mean it's something good. I don't know how many times I've seen on this site that people say that they won't buy a game because it doesn't have a Platinum trophy. That's an addiction and you are clearly not enjoying gaming. And on achievement/trophy focused sites it's even more depressing reading the comments. bob1001 Legend MemberMay 7, 20202,036Because they're based af. Just not for my wallet. Yoshi88MemberOct 26, 20171,399Systemwide they always felt like a toxic way of comparing yourself to others (in German: "Schwanzvergleich") and that's so not Nintendo.Game by game-basis with added benefits (stickers, unlocks, stamps) seems to serve them well.I feel people, especially in a niche enthusiast place like this, heavily overestimate their appeal in selling a console/ game.Bony ManifestoMemberOct 27, 20174,270andymoogle said:I would think is is because they are mostly useless. Do you really need a pat on the shoulder every other step in a campaign?Click to expand...Click to shrink...Have you played a Nintendo game before? They're the kings of constant positive reinforcement!SolidSnakexMemberOct 25, 201727,289ConflictResolver said:Because the purity of enjoying the game are the trophies. Don't need a meta layer on top of the purity. They aren't jobs, they're games.Click to expand...Click to shrink...It has nothing to do with that, and people need to stop twisting themselves into knots to justify this when it comes to NintendoThe achievements will track things like weapons collected, the number of shrines completed, and other in-game metrics. Another achievement system, medals, will be awarded for reaching certain in-game milestones.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom will have achievements on Nintendo Switch 2 | VGCIn-app achievements will be exclusive to the Nintendo Switch 2 versions of the gameswww.videogameschronicle.comThey always have to do some nonsense like this instead of just accepting that something works well and implementing it.SnakeEaterMemberOct 31, 20171,272They don't know how to monetize them yetandymoogleMemberOct 27, 20173,219SolidSnakex said:It has nothing to do with that, and people need to stop twisting themselves into knots to justify this when it comes to NintendoZelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom will have achievements on Nintendo Switch 2 | VGCIn-app achievements will be exclusive to the Nintendo Switch 2 versions of the gameswww.videogameschronicle.comThey always have to do some nonsense like this instead of just accepting that something works well and implementing it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Good. Achievements are nonsense and can be put outside of the system.GruntyMemberOct 28, 20179,699Gruntildas LairI just won't be buying a single game that isn't exclusive then. Just like I haven't for Wii, Wii U, or Switch for this very reason.JawmuncherCrisis DinoModeratorOct 25, 201743,994Ibis IslandAside from the additional resources it takes, I think it's also a point where it won't make a difference.The demand for the feature isn't going to increase sales if they suddenly added it. We're far away from Gen 7 where it actually was.The App inclusion is a nice compromise if people absolutely must have it, even if it's only for Zelda.RaysoulFat4All Ruined My RugMemberOct 26, 20173,339Forced achievements sucks. Leave it per game.Delicious WafflesMemberNov 5, 20175,745Have it, don't have it. Doesn't matter to me. MarshallLawMemberOct 19, 20231,140Because it's not necessary? They're clearly doing well without them, and as somebody that likes trophies (I wouldn't say I seek a platinum out unless I'm already naturally fairly close to it) they clearly don't feel like just adding random checklists to their games. I quite like that not having them is something different from the other two systems tbh. Just pure games and the joy that derives from that, nothing elsensilviasMemberOct 25, 201729,314andymoogle said:I would think is is because they are mostly useless. Do you really need a pat on the shoulder every other step in a campaign?I know they are fairly popular, but that doesn't mean it's something good. I don't know how many times I've seen on this site that people say that they won't buy a game because it doesn't have a Platinum trophy. That's an addiction and you are clearly not enjoying gaming. And on achievement/trophy focused sites it's even more depressing reading the comments.Click to expand...Click to shrink..." i bought this crappy game on sale cause its short and has an easy platinum"Bill GaitasMemberOct 25, 20173,933The ship sailed when they didn't bother to add a system back in 2017 when the Switch launched, no point in adding now. It sucks, I would really like to have them but oh well.GovernWortProphet of TruthMemberFeb 20, 20201,066nsilvias said:" i bought this crappy game on sale cause its short and has an easy platinum"Click to expand...Click to shrink..."im judging people on how they enjoy their hobby and spend their money"wrowaMemberOct 25, 20174,670SolidSnakex said:It has nothing to do with that, and people need to stop twisting themselves into knots to justify this when it comes to NintendoZelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom will have achievements on Nintendo Switch 2 | VGCIn-app achievements will be exclusive to the Nintendo Switch 2 versions of the gameswww.videogameschronicle.comThey always have to do some nonsense like this instead of just accepting that something works well and implementing it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I don't think this is much of a counter point. There've been Nintendo games with in-game achievement systems for a long time. The point does seem to be that Nintendo thinks that achievement systems are fine for games that are suited for it and for developers who think that it enriches their games, but they apparently don't regard it as a thing that should be mandatory for all games on a system level.OhhEldenRingMemberAug 14, 20242,395nsilvias said:they dont wanna know the real numbers on how many people dont finish games.Click to expand...Click to shrink...They know this alreadyDontHateTheBaconUnshakable ResolveMemberOct 27, 201713,982They kinda put them into their games already. I guess they decided against spending the time making a system wide feature.nsilviasMemberOct 25, 201729,314GovernWort said:"im judging people on how they enjoy their hobby and spend their money"Click to expand...Click to shrink...look you can enjoy your stuff however you like but once you enter buying shovelware for easy platinums territory youve lost the plot.blueredandgoldMemberOct 25, 20178,208Nuke them from orbit.Only way to be sure.I seem to recall on here I got blown a raspberry when I complained about achievements ruining "muh immersion" during a narravtive-driven game at the end parts while playing on my Deck.Make fun of me all you want but it's the principle and the fact I had set the option not for the (obnoxious sound and visual) toast notifications to happen in-game in the first place which is my actual issue.The device reset my custom settings after an update, I'm right to point that out and I gave context for why it annoyed me.OhhEldenRingMemberAug 14, 20242,395andymoogle said:I would think is is because they are mostly useless. Do you really need a pat on the shoulder every other step in a campaign?I know they are fairly popular, but that doesn't mean it's something good. I don't know how many times I've seen on this site that people say that they won't buy a game because it doesn't have a Platinum trophy. That's an addiction and you are clearly not enjoying gaming. And on achievement/trophy focused sites it's even more depressing reading the comments.Click to expand...Click to shrink...View: https://youtu.be/zbYUOhzQmPY?feature=sharedReminds me of this sketch

Max|PayneMemberOct 27, 20179,470PortugalTalking about new original IPs that had one or two entries released but ultimately didn't have the success their creators wanted and have been shelved or forgotten for a good while now.My example would be 2012's Rage from id software.Following nearly 20 years of genre defining first person shooters and Doom 3, Rage was a large departure from their true and tried formula of rather linear corridor shooters, this time trying an open world game with vehicle combat and rpg elements.It was definitely an ambitious endeavour that had a healthy amount of hype behind it running up to release, such hype that even convinced me to pre-order it on Steam.Come release time and after sorting out the myriad technical problems it had at launch, I ended up finding it a disappointing game that I was still able to wring some enjoyment out of but ultimately not worth the hype behind it.It definitely needed extra time in the oven, for one and even then it would still be a technically compromised game due to having it run at 60fps on the PS360 generation of consoles.The game wasn't terrible but it was a letdown from id software's usual high standard of development.Oh, and it barely had an ending.All that said, and without having played Rage 2 (not developed by id soft), I sometimes still think about the game and wonder how it would have fared had id soft waited an extra year or two and released it for the PS4/XB1 instead and most importantly, how would current day id software handle the IP without their current tech.Probably not worth the effort for them but boy, do I wonder... OrigamiPirateOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 31, 2017678San FranciscoPhantom Dust DestHas seen more 10s than EA ever willCowardJun 4, 201815,819WorkPhantom DustDalUncle Works at NintendoMemberAug 18, 20242,027The Order 1886mudronMemberFeb 13, 20201,038Beetle Adventure RacingBanjo Kazooie Nuts & BoltsShroudOfFateOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 30, 20171,794Remember Me. That game has so many incredible ideas for combat and a super interesting take on cyberpunk as a genre.MaximeMemberOct 27, 20173,481Remember Me. The foundations were all here to make a really good sequel.SlayvenNever read a comic in his lifeModeratorOct 25, 2017101,383JackOfSomeTradesMemberApr 9, 20182,254ShroudOfFate said:Remember Me. That game has so many incredible ideas for combat and a super interesting take on cyberpunk as a genre.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Ditto, it was dripping in atmosphere, deserved another shot in the spotlightBlue_Toad507MemberMay 25, 20213,639Skies of ArcadiaLittle King's StoryMega Man Legends HumidexMemberOct 27, 201717,492Alpha ProtocolVoidShamanMemberJul 11, 20231,263I would love to see another game from Midnight Suns. Such a great game that was too niche for its own good.Oh well, at least we have the one, and that can't be taken away from us... So far...DisclaimerMemberOct 25, 201712,566DioField Chronicle.Doubt we'll ever see another, but it's a prime example of something that could benefit immensely from -- and was quality enough to deserve -- iteration. RTwP JRPGs aren't something we have enough of. The storytelling was also very bold in fun ways, if also messy or odd in others.steviestar3One Winged SlayerMemberJul 3, 20185,256D4SoapMemberOct 27, 201718,445Not so much new, but I am sad we won't get a sequel to midnight suns after it bombed (or an xmen focused game in that style)PyroGod help us the mods are making weekend threadsMemberJul 30, 201818,127United StatesRAGE is a good one OP.Would've loved for the sequel NOT to have tried to go into the "magenta wackiness" shit. Just double down on the FPS combat (no vehicle combat), tell a better story, a new post-apocalyptic city to wander around/do quests in and give us more factions. The first game was at its best when it was essentially a better playing Fallout 3.SoapboxMemberOct 28, 201732,737None of you bought Stranglehold. It's death is on your handsmnkMemberNov 11, 20177,779Ever Oasis had a lot of potential, they just needed to work out some kinks in the execution.Faceless_CaesarMemberJul 1, 202010,250OrigamiPirate said:Phantom Dust Click to expand...Click to shrink...It got a second chance, you mean a third chance.JrocMemberJun 9, 20187,884Prey 2017 (Neuroshock) ArshesOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 2017175CanadaCode Name Steam ,I feel like there could be a lot of potential in a sequel or a new ip that built on it's mechanics.Last edited: Today at 4:07 PMozumasBorn to be Wise and Corrupted by VengeanceMemberDec 15, 20204,288I know is soon to tell but can we count Forspoken? Because I think the concept, World building, even characters worth a second chance with more time / focusFarSight XR-20MemberJan 4, 20189,348Geist.harinezumiMemberOct 27, 201720,040Buenos Aires, ArgentinaThe world is ready for a new Parasite EveKokluszMemberOct 27, 20173,782Remember Me (the vibes were immaculate) and Prey (either one of them).jph139One Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 201715,593Enslaved: Odyssey to the West.I just like the vibes. Not sure it really needs a revival - the post-apocalyptic environment is played out nowadays - but I wish it got a sequel back in early 2010s just to iterate on the concept a bit.AldzDrakulMemberOct 28, 201756Psi-Ops Mindgate Conspiracy in the PS2 era was something that would have been really good in the modern age. Sucks though nothing happened for this gameOuroborosMemberOct 27, 201715,608United StatesI really liked ARMSrudeboyosloMemberJan 5, 20181,363Sunset Overdrivejroc74MemberOct 27, 201733,256I finally played Rage 2 recently. Agree, that was a good game.ozumas said:I know is soon to tell but can we count Forspoken? Because I think the concept, World building, even characters worth a second chance with more time / focusClick to expand...Click to shrink...Not too soon. I'll always list is as not as bad as it was made out to be.Not GotY or anything but still.I see I'm the first to post The Saboteur. eggThe FallenOct 26, 20177,544The Order 1886AnoregonMemberOct 25, 201715,977I'm not sure it really counts since it was an active MMO for more than 10 years, but it really sucks that the Asheron's Call franchise is dead forever (eat shit, WB). It was such a cool setting/world, comfortably fantasy but with a lot of its own unique flavor. I don't even need another MMO, I just want more games with Olthoi and virindi.GigglepooMemberOct 25, 201710,577mudron said:Beetle Adventure RacingBanjo Kazooie Nuts & BoltsClick to expand...Click to shrink...The branching paths in the new Mario Kart reminded me of the BAR courses. Hopefully I'm right because that was an awesome game.RobochimpAvengerOct 25, 20172,733Ouroboros said:I really liked ARMSClick to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah that's a great one, my kids and I played a ton of ARMS, such a great cast of characters.NikusAvengerOct 25, 201711,636Soapbox said:None of you bought Stranglehold. It's death is on your handsClick to expand...Click to shrink...Oh I thought I was gonna be the only one to mention Stranglehold. And there was a sequel called Gun Runner that was canceled Even the main menu was one of the best ever madeSon of Sparda"This guy are sick" says The Wise OnesMemberOct 25, 201717,143Asura's WrathRemember MeJonathan Lanza"I've made a Gigantic mistake"MemberFeb 8, 20198,543I didn't like NEO anywhere near as much as the original (but I still thought it was alright) but my answer is The World Ends With You. It feels like something that SHOULD resonate with a lot of people in the modern era but for some reason it has seemed to miss it.SoapboxMemberOct 28, 201732,737Nikus said:Oh I thought I was gonna be the only one to mention Stranglehold. And there was a sequel called Gun Runner that was canceled Even the main menu was one of the best ever madeClick to expand...Click to shrink...Exactly! I would be quite surprised if anyone else posted about it. Damn Shame. John Woo should have just made it a movie. (I think it started off as a movie)Mr Evil 37MemberMar 7, 202225,572Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break and Arkane's PreyGreywarenMemberJul 16, 201912,571SpainGod, yeah, Remember Me is a good one. It was rough around the edges, but it had some really cool ideas and a very unique style. I would've loved a sequel. Mobius and Pet OctopusMemberOct 25, 201716,215Blacklight.Had 2 great MP games. Kind of bungled Retribution but I'd take another.NintendoProphet of RegretMemberOct 27, 201713,887twistofnateMemberMay 24, 201963AZPrey 2006, unfortunately, or at least something that uses portals again.GranjinhaaMemberDec 28, 20239,247viva piataOrigamiPirateOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 31, 2017678San FranciscoFaceless_Caesar said:It got a second chance, you mean a third chance.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Respectfully, I don't consider the remaster a second chance. That was an apology for canceling the actual second chance (the revival they announced and then canceled.) But it's all semantics, second/third/fourth, I'd like Phantom Dust to have another chance ForoBudMemberJul 12, 20211,101Quantum Break!!!GranjinhaaMemberDec 28, 20239,247also prey (2016), by arkane austin. one of the best games of all times. i wanted a sequel so badly.DangerbladeDJ MasterMemberOct 25, 20173,404Hollow Knight Serious answer: Toybox TurbosNintendoProphet of RegretMemberOct 27, 201713,887Mr Evil 37 said:Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break and Arkane's PreyClick to expand...Click to shrink...ForoBud said:Quantum Break!!!Click to expand...Click to shrink...Quantum Break kinda sorta has a second chance with all the Remedy-verse thing. Even if not "officially".SyagriusMemberApr 23, 2019269Hotel Dusk

RandomlyRandom67MemberJul 7, 20232,185Really really great video, well worth the launch. They basically go through and describe what is likely happening inside Nintendo right now as a result of the pricing backlash and consumer confusion on pricing. They discuss the "war room" and stuff like that.It's interesting that Krysta was confused about the 90 dollar physical stuff online (they thought it was misinformation but they don't know about physical pricing being more expensive in Europe). If even they are confused with the messaging and pricing details then imagine the reaction of the average consumer right now FistyMemberOct 25, 201722,233What is going on inside Nintendo right now is a lot of reclined relaxation and marg parties because they know they have a captive market. You want their games, you will pay their pricesMeg CherryMemberOct 25, 20177,758Seattle, WAFisty said:What is going on inside Nintendo right now is a lot of reclined relaxation and marg parties because they know they have a captive market. You want their games, you will pay their pricesClick to expand...Click to shrink...should I believe two people who actively worked with NOA for years, or one rando forum poster gonna have to sleep on this oneMr Evil 37MemberMar 7, 202225,572Meg Cherry said:should I believe two people who actively worked with NOA for years, or one rando forum postergonna have to sleep on this oneClick to expand...Click to shrink...ZojirushiMemberOct 26, 20173,609Laughing all the way to the bank I think it's how they call itTripaSecaMemberOct 27, 20173,156So PauloIf they did anything right, they'll for sure have foreseen the backlash. Every company in the US will face this same backlash."The tariff hit us but the consumers can't add 2+2."Hero_of_the_DayAvengerOct 27, 201719,476Fisty said:What is going on inside Nintendo right now is a lot of reclined relaxation and marg parties because they know they have a captive market. You want their games, you will pay their pricesClick to expand...Click to shrink...I am NOT saying I would bet things go bad here. Especially out the gate, things will be absolutely fine.But, Nintendo more than any other company knows the swings of the industry. They have been at the top of the world, and the fucking pits, multiple times over the years. I am sure they are listening and cautious. But, that doesn't mean they will change course at all, especially with everything going on in the world. They surely knew going in that this was going to cause some backlash. Only time will tell if that backlash turns into an actual problem.ClickyCal'MemberOct 25, 201764,564Man I can't imagine if social media was at the way it is now when the 3ds was revealed.KouriozanMemberOct 25, 201724,136Seems obvious, Nintendo CAN'T afford Switch 2 to fail because they have absolutely nothing else to fall onto if that happens.Doesn't mean it'll fail but they gotta prepare for the worst just in case.IMO I don't see it failing, they're coming off on the console that (will) be the best selling one ever, and whatever "social" backlash there is, it's going to be very very popular anyway, like any recent Nintendo backlash (Pokmon, Switch 1 price had it too/etc)poptireAvatar Wrecking CrewThe FallenOct 25, 201714,453Meg Cherry said:should I believe two people who actively worked with NOA for years, or one rando forum postergonna have to sleep on this oneClick to expand...Click to shrink...Lmao FistyMemberOct 25, 201722,233Meg Cherry said:should I believe two people who actively worked with NOA for years, or one rando forum postergonna have to sleep on this oneClick to expand...Click to shrink...Alright, see ya in the Metroid 4 reviews thread where everyone is losing their marblesjungiusMemberSep 5, 20213,324Hero_of_the_Day said:I am NOT saying I would bet things go bad here. Especially out the gate, things will be absolutely fine.But, Nintendo more than any other company knows the swings of the industry. They have been at the top of the world, and the fucking pits, multiple times over the years. I am sure they are listening and cautious. But, that doesn't mean they will change course at all, especially with everything going on in the world. They surely knew going in that this was going to cause some backlash. Only time will tell if that backlash turns into an actual problem.Click to expand...Click to shrink...maybe they have expected this thing won't sell well like switch 1 due to the product and economic uncertainty, so they try to save their revenue and profit margin by nickel diming the existing customers and fanbase.MattBPokmon Master Uncle Works at NintendoAvengerOct 25, 20173,664The confusion about the price is mostly because of the amount of outlets posting stuff from click bait articles.Meg CherryMemberOct 25, 20177,758Seattle, WAFisty said:Alright, see ya in the Metroid 4 reviews thread where everyone is losing their marblesClick to expand...Click to shrink...Nobody posting on a gaming forum in 2025 has any marbles left. That's why we're here.rama_MemberJul 30, 2024463Sony and third parties are going to follow Nintendo's lead and start selling new games for $80+ as well and then it's over and there's no going back.Dark NinjaMemberOct 27, 20178,258Krysta went IN on Doug Bowser there for a bit.krae_manMaster of Balan WonderworldMemberOct 25, 201710,507I don't know how much stock needs to be put into people complaining about pricing. Every single time there are people with unrealistic expectations "The system should have the best specs of any console ever, have 100 hours battery life and cost $199" and the Europe people who think their cost should be identical to the US after the VAT and whatnot.The physical media being significantly more expensive to manufacture and needing parody or close to it with digital pricing is for sure going to be a problem for them though.Meg CherryMemberOct 25, 20177,758Seattle, WAMattB said:The confusion about the price is mostly because of the amount of outlets posting stuff from click bait articles.Click to expand...Click to shrink...It's also because they didn't include the price in their hotly promoted reveal video, leading to people getting info from different sources.Mr Evil 37MemberMar 7, 202225,572jungius said:maybe they have expected this thing won't sell well like switch 1 due to the product and economic uncertainty, so they try to save their revenue and profit margin by nickel diming the existing customers and fanbase.Click to expand...Click to shrink...It can sell extremely well and still sell less than Switch 1. Switch 1 had multiple factors in its favour that Switch 2 won't have.Diogo ArezOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 20, 202019,836Nintendo basically shitting on their main target group with these prices is a strategy that I'm really curious if it'll pay off long term, launch wise they are probably safe tho, it will sell out regardless FistyMemberOct 25, 201722,233Meg Cherry said:Nobody posting on a gaming forum in 2025 has any marbles left. That's why we're here.Click to expand...Click to shrink...My point is alot of the people complaining about price etc are going to be singing a different tune when software and FOMO starts rolling out. Nintendo knows thissazzMemberAug 3, 20205,925London, UKMattB said:The confusion about the price is mostly because of the amount of outlets posting stuff from click bait articles.Click to expand...Click to shrink...nintendo really haven't helped themselves by not including pricing stuff in their direct as well as making physical even more expensive for some ridiculous reason in europe and thus people expect that would be the case elsewheremrbogusMemberJul 14, 20193,374The great thing about entertainment is that its not a necessity. Still have look at that grocery bill every week, but I don't have to look at my Nintendo bill if I don't have to.YohraUtopiaMemberApr 1, 20211,319Fisty said:What is going on inside Nintendo right now is a lot of reclined relaxation and marg parties because they know they have a captive market. You want their games, you will pay their pricesClick to expand...Click to shrink...this is not remotely true. please read a single non-gaming financial or business press report/analysis on this.CharizardMemberOct 25, 20173,128A lot of it is people not understanding that they are certainly taking a big loss in Japan with each console sold in order to preserve that giant market.They think "We are getting ripped off". That is what I'm seeing on social media. The rest is people having unrealistic expectations I'd say.As for the GAME prices...$80 Kirby is NUTS tho????Dinoegg_96AvengerNov 26, 20172,679MattB said:The confusion about the price is mostly because of the amount of outlets posting stuff from click bait articles.Click to expand...Click to shrink...If only there was a way for Nintendo let people know that info...Mr Evil 37MemberMar 7, 202225,572I wonder if people would have preferred the console being more expensive but game prices staying the same.Tom Nook Says...MemberJan 15, 20196,775You don't make a game $80 for the first time ever just two years after you made a game $70 for the first time ever unless you're geared up for the backlash.yyrMemberNov 14, 20174,098White Plains, NYWatching as I type this.None of the announced prices seem unfair to me, considering the horsepower of the hardware, the rising cost of producing games, significant inflation since the release of Switch 1, and of course, the tariff nonsense. It's just that the dollar amount is higher than before, so it's a surprise."AAA prestige titles," as they call them, cost more to produce now than ever before. Why do you think so many of them have in-app purchases now? But Nintendo is known for releasing complete games that don't nickel-and-dime you, so they're not going to be subsidized by whales. The only alternatives are to either increase prices or decrease costs (layoffs, etc).I just visited an inflation calculator, and a $60 game in 2005 dollars would cost $98 in 2025 dollars. $80 for a AAA game now is actually cheaper than $60 then. But the new dollar amount comes with sticker shock.Games need to cost more to support higher salaries and other development costs, and therefore prices need to go up eventually. But there isn't any "good" time to announce a price increase. I don't know what the right answer is, if one exists. Maybe more mid-tier games...?Ring Dings and PepsiMemberJan 23, 20241,428Fisty said:My point is alot of the people complaining about price etc are going to be singing a different tune when software and FOMO starts rolling out. Nintendo knows thisClick to expand...Click to shrink...It's not a 100% given; there's a nonzero chance we're in a 3DS-at-launch situation where Nintendo seriously just misreads the market. I'm sure they too thought "we're launching the successor to the venerated DS, we can truly do whatever we want" before dropping it. icecreamMemberOct 27, 20171,045Meg Cherry said:should I believe two people who actively worked with NOA for years, or one rando forum postergonna have to sleep on this oneClick to expand...Click to shrink...To be fair both are a crapshoot because neither are actually inside Nintendo's decision circle at the moment.We don't know what Nintendo will do. It's OK for some people to panic it's OK for some people to shrug it off. Time will tell.HolmesAVALANCHEThe FallenOct 25, 20174,047MattB said:The confusion about the price is mostly because of the amount of outlets posting stuff from click bait articles.Click to expand...Click to shrink...They talk about the confusion in the video and that's not the cause they landed on.MattBPokmon Master Uncle Works at NintendoAvengerOct 25, 20173,664sazz said:nintendo really haven't helped themselves by not including pricing stuff in their direct as well as making physical even more expensive for some ridiculous reason in europe and thus people expect that would be the case elsewhereClick to expand...Click to shrink...I mean both things can be right. Nintendo could have done a better job giving the info.Ring Dings and PepsiMemberJan 23, 20241,428yyr said:Games need to cost more to support higher salaries and other development costs, and therefore prices need to go up eventually. But there isn't any "good" time to announce a price increase. I don't know what the right answer is, if one exists. Maybe more mid-tier games...?Click to expand...Click to shrink...I said this in another thread but they already increased the price not two years ago with TOTK being $70. In two years Nintendo's "full price" for software has shot up by 33%. Of course there was going to be backlash.LotusOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 2017121,941Mr Evil 37 said:I wonder if people would have preferred the console being more expensive but game prices staying the same.Click to expand...Click to shrink...How much more expensive we talkingFlame LordMemberOct 26, 20173,490Fisty said:Alright, see ya in the Metroid 4 reviews thread where everyone is losing their marblesClick to expand...Click to shrink...I'm sure the Switch crowd is full of people looking to drop $450 to play at 4K60, oh yeah and $20 extra.QuintonStaff Writer at TheGamerVerifiedOct 25, 201722,496Midgar, With LoveIt's a good video. They're knowledgeable and they have a more thorough understanding of the inner workings at play here than 99.99% of us. Even if their experiences are not based upon current conditions at the company, their perspectives remain illuminating.I recommend folks watch it.Mr Evil 37MemberMar 7, 202225,572sazz said:nintendo really haven't helped themselves by not including pricing stuff in their direct as well as making physical even more expensive for some ridiculous reason in europe and thus people expect that would be the case elsewhereClick to expand...Click to shrink...They probably waited until the last moment to finalise pricing, well after the Direct was locked. Also, one could argue that you don't put bad news in a big showcase that's meant to be all positive.YohraUtopiaMemberApr 1, 20211,319sazz said:nintendo really haven't helped themselves by not including pricing stuff in their direct as well as making physical even more expensive for some ridiculous reason in europe and thus people expect that would be the case elsewhereClick to expand...Click to shrink...the price stuff wasn't in there because the video was likely finished before the prices were set because of the level of uncertainty in the global economy. I mean the Japanese GOVERNMENT only started to get even a sense of the severity of Trump's moves... on April 1! Leading to the almost unthinkable until, well, April 1, agreement between Japan, China, and South Korea to collectively coordinate their push back to the US. People on a board like this are very tuned into things like Nintendo games rarely going on significant sales and things like that. But Nintendo knows that the broader audience (which is not only the proverbial "casuals"), particularly for them, is price sensitive on the MSRP. It's one of the reasons they stopped chasing high powered components generations ago.Diogo ArezOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 20, 202019,836Mr Evil 37 said:I wonder if people would have preferred the console being more expensive but game prices staying the same.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah I would, I'd take a 550 console if it meant I didn't have to spend 90 fucking euros on a fucking game Common KnowledgeOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 20177,121Idk I just keep thinking back to how everyone was ready to torch Sony's headquarters over the PS5 Pro price, only for it to be selling like hotcakes mere weeks later. I think these companies know there's going to be backlash at first, but most consumers will eventually relent.NateoMemberOct 27, 20178,839Zojirushi said:Laughing all the way to the bank I think it's how they call itClick to expand...Click to shrink...I dunno I don't think Switch 2 pre-orders have sold out anywhere? This is the first time in Australia in a long time where a Nintendo console hasn't presold out real quick.MattB said:The confusion about the price is mostly because of the amount of outlets posting stuff from click bait articles.Click to expand...Click to shrink...The confusion of the price has nothing to do with clickbait. They have a game at that price its one of their premier games.Mr Evil 37MemberMar 7, 202225,572Lotus said:How much more expensive we talkingClick to expand...Click to shrink...I dunno but more expensive than it is. Let's say 500 or so. Would that have been an easier pill to swallow than game prices changing?Hero_of_the_DayAvengerOct 27, 201719,476Fisty said:My point is alot of the people complaining about price etc are going to be singing a different tune when software and FOMO starts rolling out. Nintendo knows thisClick to expand...Click to shrink...Yes, on Reset Era, there will be a lot of people excited for the console and games. How that translates to normal world? Again, time will tell.I don't think this thing is going to have the massive casual adoption the Switch enjoyed. Unless they really find ways to sell a cheaper system in the coming years. I know so many households with multiple switches. I just cannot imagine that now. Not that that is just because of Nintendos action. But, the economy is about to get real shaky here in the US. And I bet video games feels that.Zok310MemberOct 25, 20175,808Fisty said:What is going on inside Nintendo right now is a lot of reclined relaxation and marg parties because they know they have a captive market. You want their games, you will pay their pricesClick to expand...Click to shrink...I'll take that bet.Paula B. Legend MemberNov 13, 2021357Rio de JaneiroI hope they're right and we get official comments from Nintendo. There are a lot of missinformation being spread ($90 physical games) but aside from that, they need to answer their costurmers. Nintendo has painted itself as "fun for everyone" company because their games were more acessible than the competition and now it's the opposite. Why are they selling Mario Kart World for $80? If they give a "get a second job" type of response, then I wish everyone fun but I'll be skipping this generation and staying with my Switch 1 games.Edit: grammar mistakesRPGsandFGCsMemberJun 30, 2024593CaliforniaI think that was good analysis from them, all things considered. Especially interesting is the time frame, that the public's reaction will get back to Furukawa at NoJ sometime late today due to time zones, if it makes it that far.Unfortunately, I think Nintendo is stuck with it. The price of the console is the price due to the features, that's not getting lowered. If anything tariffs are going to drive it up within the year.They're not going to drop the price of Mario Kart, that ship has sailed. They're stuck with that game being $80 for the foreseeable future. They could probably sneakily drop it down to $70 in a year or two and not totally compromise their "our games don't drop in price" stance, but that's about it.From my uninformed opinion, I think their best course of action that is realistic is to make the MKW bundle a permanent thing. Right now the messaging is that it's temporary, and that's only going to be bad press when supplies run out. MKW is going to be absurdly popular and people can feel like they're getting a deal by getting it for "only" $50.Mauricio_MagusMemberOct 25, 201715,444If tha max price was 70, and that small stupid 10 dollar game was free... I feel like people would have gone "well it sucks but it was expected"Also doesn't help that there's people saying games will be 90 and believing it.Tom Nook Says...MemberJan 15, 20196,775yyr said:I don't know what the right answer is, if one exists.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Switch 2 game vouchers for $120. Gives consumers an option to avoid high prices, and Nintendo get two guaranteed sales.Bundling Mario Kart from day one so as to give people an avenue to avoid paying $80 suggests they're trepidatious about this price point. Even though there are multiple games sold for $80, they all have an officially sanctioned method of avoiding that price for the time being.MarcosBrXDMemberAug 28, 20241,416Fisty said:What is going on inside Nintendo right now is a lot of reclined relaxation and marg parties because they know they have a captive market. You want their games, you will pay their pricesClick to expand...Click to shrink...This

vestan#REFANTAZIO SWEEPMemberDec 28, 201727,392View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKHDEKQ7xADeveloped for the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2; 'THE DUSKBLOODS' is a PvPvE title with online multiplayer at its core, where up to 8 players vie for supremacy among themselves and against challenging foes.Play as the "Bloodsworn"; a group that has transcended human strength thanks to their special blood, and throw yourself into a violent fray for "First Blood" as the twilight of humanity approaches.Release is currently set for 2026 and we hope you look forward to it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Last edited: Yesterday at 11:05 AM super-famicomAvengerOct 26, 201729,486YooooooDranakinMemberOct 27, 20172,725Exclusive...?EDIT: CONFIRMEDOliver JamesAvengerOct 25, 20179,613Nier?AyumuMemberMay 10, 2024899What hahahhaPatitolocoMemberOct 27, 201727,307Vestan you cheeky, you wanted the thread don't you lolMedzeMemberOct 28, 2017136whaaaaMandosMemberNov 27, 201737,998Would've rather had an ACE revival but eh neat enoughKadzorkHas got mad skills!!MemberOct 27, 201723,480WHAT IS HAPPENINGSunBroDave"This guy are sick"MemberOct 25, 201714,845BB2 was a Switch 2 launch title all along TapDancingFreakMemberDec 12, 20174,422Charlotte, NCOMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGsuper-famicomAvengerOct 26, 201729,486Steampunk Yharnham?PatitolocoMemberOct 27, 201727,307VAMPIRE BLOODBORNE HERE WE GOternarybananaMemberApr 5, 2024701Darkborne03-AALIYAHMemberJul 21, 20231,236Nintendo killing it.mrtanookiMemberMay 9, 2024657I wonder if this ends up being exclusive or multiplatform.ConflictResolverMemberJan 1, 20243,852MidgarWhat in the fuck LMAO fucking hell we got our BloodborneMLHMemberOct 26, 2017751Bloodborne spiritual sequel was NOT on my radar. Not in my wildest dreams would I have imagined this at a Nintendo Direct. Truly the nightmare has taken meHumidexMemberOct 27, 201717,492mrtanooki said:I wonder if this ends up being exclusive or multiplatform.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Timed exclusive is my guessPatitolocoMemberOct 27, 201727,307THE DUSKBLOODSVAMPIRE BLOODBORNE DARK SOULS WHATEVER2026 Damien1990MemberMay 23, 20202,710Looks cool, gives Bloodborne vibes. Title: The DuskbloodsjonjonaugMemberOct 25, 20176,130Dranakin said:Exclusive...?Click to expand...Click to shrink...YesMemberOct 25, 20174,865Looks like a souls game, big turn off...thezbosonMemberOct 27, 20171,334WwwaaaaattttScoopyMemberJun 12, 2024613Edit - EXCLUSIVE03-AALIYAHMemberJul 21, 20231,236"Duskbloods"Ohhh, clever.ReckheimAvengerOct 25, 201710,199man, not another fromsoftware game stuck on hardware that can't push it past 30fps. Looks great tho.CountAntonioMemberOct 25, 201724,182So this is where Bloodborne 2 went.nihilencenthing but silenceModeratorOct 25, 201718,477From 'quake area to big OH.That was quite GothicElven_StarMemberOct 27, 20174,668Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Nintendo's very own Bloodborne. XandoMemberOct 28, 201735,782Bloodborne successor exclusive for switch 2 lmaoRodrigues solitaireMemberOct 28, 20196,320EXCLUSVEBBEBEBEBEOliver JamesAvengerOct 25, 20179,613Bloodborne 2 Hype!TradedHatsMemberMar 8, 20184,149Only on Switch 2 lol.deep_dishMemberOct 25, 2017993wow. Didn't have that on my bingo cardIDontBeatGamesThreadMarksman - Saved Transistor's sanity twiceMemberOct 29, 201720,408New YorkScoopy said:I would be shocked if it wasn't multi platClick to expand...Click to shrink...It is not, just confirmed.KomoInfo AnalystVerifiedJan 3, 20197,181HOLY...HStallionMemberOct 25, 201768,740The coolest thing shown at the entire show.ekimMemberOct 26, 20173,751ExclusivemrmickfranThe FallenOct 27, 201732,576GongagaMiyazaki is director Becks'MemberDec 7, 20179,001CanadaMIYAZAKI COOKINGSunBroDave"This guy are sick"MemberOct 25, 201714,845THEY SAID BLOODSolidSnakeUSMemberOct 25, 201711,867Fucking exclusive is insane.AyumuMemberMay 10, 2024899HahaHippopuncher12MemberOct 25, 201717,507CincinnatiLMAO at making this an exclusive.ApathyMemberOct 25, 201713,213Sony fucked up by not making from to make Bloodborne 2. This is so close to what it could have beenWhales"This guy are sick"MemberOct 25, 20173,973close enoughwelcome back, bloodborneShepherdMemberOct 25, 20171,059wtfSasliquidMemberOct 25, 20174,627Sony must be pissedcvbasMemberOct 25, 20174,986BrazilWE ARE SO BACK

nicoreeseMemberJan 18, 20181,388Just saw this and could not believe it. This game is 10 years old. What's going on at Ubisoft? Is this a part of the Tencent buy in already?They force you to update the game or you cannot play online. They at least have changed some male nudity, gave a female character smaller breasts and a bra when it was previously a topless scene.https://www.reddit.com/r/farcry/comments/1jqthqe/far_cry_4_censored_update_pc/Changes were also made to the audio files, but only the English ones. I'm looking into what else might've changed.EDIT: They didn't change the Yuma model in any capacity. If I had to guess? They just went the Far Cry 6 route and covered all the nipples. Hers were covered by her jacket to begin with, so there was nothing to change. Kalinag's model is also unaffected.EDIT 2: They also patched Far Cry 3 on March 31st. I haven't seen anyone talk about that yet. They may have done something similar with Citra. Anyone want to find out?Edit 3: Just went back to the Shanath Arena mission. Ajay is no longer naked. They gave him a loincloth to cover his genitals.The Boobs are coverd and smaller, build in uplay installer and uplay relativ changesClick to expand...Click to shrink... nsilviasMemberOct 25, 201729,306>They also patched Far Cry 3 on March 31stdid they at least fix far cry 3? it has issues on pcZodiacWolveMemberMay 22, 2022427OddDrScruffletonMemberOct 26, 201714,574thats weird. Maybe going to try to push the series to a wider audience before the next one is out?BrannonOne Winged SlayerAvengerOct 25, 20171,686Wish they would put this effort into Farcry 2 and fix the insane respawn and way-too-fast dialogue.DanarchyReignsMemberOct 25, 201736,579What a strange thing to do...DrScruffleton said:thats weird. Maybe going to try to push the series to a wider audience before the next one is out?Click to expand...Click to shrink...I feel they tried to do that with Far Cry 6 by putting Giancarlo Esposito front & center.AcebaldwinMemberOct 28, 2017181Does it matter though.CrissaegrimMemberMay 23, 20181,612DrScruffleton said:thats weird. Maybe going to try to push the series to a wider audience before the next one is out?Click to expand...Click to shrink...But sex sells, right? I can't even imagine the sales numbers for GTA 6 and that shit's gonna have all kinds of nudity.PinkCrayonMemberOct 25, 20171,401goofyDrScruffletonMemberOct 26, 201714,574Crissaegrim said:But sex sells, right? I can't even imagine the sales numbers for GTA 6 and that shit's gonna have all kinds of nudity.Click to expand...Click to shrink...my mom wouldnt buy me games with nudity when I was younger lol All the violence was ok though PlasmaMemberOct 25, 20176,954Thank god, this was keeping me from playing.dex3108MemberOct 26, 201724,429Brannon said:Wish they would put this effort into Farcry 2 and fix the insane respawn and way-too-fast dialogue.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Mods fixed some of those Far Cry 2 - Realism Plus ReduxTotal overhaul of Far Cry 2. This is a combination of Realism+ and Redux, tuned to provide the ultimate FC2 experience.www.nexusmods.comSirKaiMemberDec 28, 20179,855WashingtonDrScruffleton said:thats weird. Maybe going to try to push the series to a wider audience before the next one is out?Click to expand...Click to shrink...Far Cry is already extremely wide audience and mass market. Shit like The Boys, Walking Dead, and Games of Thrones is wide audience. I dunno what motivates stuff like this.DestHas seen more 10s than EA ever willCowardJun 4, 201815,818WorkGonna assume this has to do with the whole Tencent deal. Probably? China has a lot of stipulations regarding that kind of content, religion, etc.AnimeJesusMemberOct 27, 20175,306prepping for Switch 2 versionsThe_R3medyMemberJan 22, 20183,643WisconsinWas this a weird requirement of the Tencent investment or something? There *has* to be a story to thisturbobuttsMemberOct 25, 2017659i thought wokeness was dead NintendoProphet of RegretMemberOct 27, 201713,881Dest said:Gonna assume this has to do with the whole Tencent deal. Probably?Click to expand...Click to shrink...The_R3medy said:Was this a weird requirement of the Tencent investment or something? There *has* to be a story to thisClick to expand...Click to shrink...Did they also remove nudity from AC games too? If not, then this can't be it.Extra SauceMemberOct 27, 20176,881killing thousands of people is cool as long as you don't show the human bodyDestHas seen more 10s than EA ever willCowardJun 4, 201815,818WorkNintendo said:Did they also remove nudity from AC games too? If not, then this can't be it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Time will tell I would imagine not all of them would be updated simultaneously

Witchcraft"This guy are sick"MemberOct 9, 20221,645Nintendo's first post-Switch 2 Nintendo Direct Treehouse livestream is being flooded with angry comments from users calling on the company to "DROP THE PRICE."A cursory glance at the YouTube chat for the stream shows a flood of complaints about the pricing of Nintendo's move to the next-generation, which includes the $449.99 Switch 2 and, perhaps most controversially, the jump to $79.99 for Mario Kart World.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Nintendo's Switch 2 Treehouse Livestream Is Just a Flood of Angry Comments Shouting "DROP the PRICE" - IGNNintendos first post-Switch 2 Nintendo Direct Treehouse livestream is being flooded with angry comments from users calling on the company to DROP THE PRICE.www.ign.comIt also looks like there's already been a price drop in France? Users on social media are mentioning the price dropping to 439 . IDontBeatGamesThreadMarksman - Saved Transistor's sanity twiceMemberOct 29, 201720,403New YorkI was watching it and yeah, the entire chat was just "DROP THE PRICE" for the entire time I watched.BlackbirdUnshakable Resolve - Prophet of TruthMemberOct 25, 20177,146Brazil"but the games were already expensive in the past, ha!gotcha!"DalUncle Works at NintendoMemberAug 18, 20242,015I know AI summaries are awful but it was funny reading the one for the livestream's chat:"Viewers are upset about the price of the new Nintendo Switch game. They think it's too expensive and are demanding that Nintendo drop the price."Tom Nook Says...MemberJan 15, 20196,756The cost of the console seems fair, especially considering that 5 days ago plenty of people didn't expect it to feature 120Hz, DLSS, VRR and so on. Pricing Mario Kart at $80 and asking people to pay like $5-10 for what should obviously just be a free demo are where Nintendo seems particularly greedy.RpgNMemberOct 25, 20171,757The NetherlandsWhatever comes from this, even if nothing changes, good on those Nintendo fans. That's the way to make them understand.IDontBeatGamesThreadMarksman - Saved Transistor's sanity twiceMemberOct 29, 201720,403New YorkTom Nook Says... said:The cost of the console seems fair, especially considering that 5 days ago plenty of people didn't expect it to feature 120Hz, DLSS, VRR and so on. Pricing Mario Kart at $80 and asking people to pay like $5-10 for what should obviously just be a free demo are where Nintendo seems particularly greedy.Click to expand...Click to shrink...When Tom Nook is calling out Nintendo for being greedy you know we're cooked.SP.MemberOct 27, 20178,117Good, speaking with your wallet is the only way to combat corporate greed.The price of the console is about what I expected but the game pricing is insanity.KadzorkHas got mad skills!!MemberOct 27, 201723,450My real question is - to what?I would honestly love to know the expectations here.CenaToonMemberOct 25, 20175,510When people find about about the tariffs... KouriozanMemberOct 25, 201724,129They've been doing this for 4 hours, I applaud the perseverance and that they don't have anything better to do currently lmaoSome are about to get a massive wake up call when tariff go into effect and are reflected upon the consummer on virtually everything.KahhhhyleMemberJun 8, 20213,015Kadzork said:My real question is - to what?I would honestly love to know the expectations here.Click to expand...Click to shrink...$70 for Mario Kart seems expensive enough lol. Idk if it needed to be $80pbayneCorrupted by VengeanceMemberOct 27, 201710,925the youtube comments in 2025a bastion of great opinionsIzanagi89"This guy are sick" and Corrupted by VengeanceMemberOct 27, 201718,318GoodMinkyeroMemberMar 21, 202536I'll be honest this is just gonna be a Dexit 2.0 scenario Nintendo ain't doing nothing about the price as they know people are gonna pay itZee GiesbrechtMemberNov 2, 201750Great, I'm sure N will try to stop the negativity wave they created somehow.JawmuncherCrisis DinoModeratorOct 25, 201743,975Ibis IslandWas interesting to see everyone in the stream seemingly on the same page.With that said, I can't recall too many times where Nintendo "listened" to criticism like this and course corrected.The only thing that would really impact the Game Prices would be if they seemingly don't do as well as they're expecting. Similar to how they lowered the price of the 3DS after sales were falling off.The period after the first 6 months will be interesting to see, as much like the WiiU, that's when the "hardcore" market should be accounted for and the rest is trying to get everyone else on board.McfrankMemberOct 28, 201717,537Comments are a mistakeNotLiquidOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 201737,365Dexit vibesCatchphraseMemberNov 28, 20232,101Do they work for Poilievre KadzorkHas got mad skills!!MemberOct 27, 201723,450Jawmuncher said:Was interesting to see everyone in the stream seemingly on the same page.With that said, I can't recall too many times where Nintendo "listened" to criticism like this and course corrected.The only thing that would really impact the game Game Prices would be if they seemingly don't do as well as they're expecting. Similar to how they lowered the price of the 3DS after sales were falling off.The period after the first 6 months will be interesting to see, as much like the WiiU, that's when the "hardcore" market should be accounted for and the rest is trying to get everyone else on board.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Ambassador Program 2.0.JohnnyToonamiMemberDec 16, 20186,138EarthOutside of the ERA bubble, folks are not happy about this reveal overall. Tons of misinformation going around from those who just buy the new consoles and don't partake in the general discourse.Really interested in seeing how this unfolds over the rest of the year.Tom Nook Says...MemberJan 15, 20196,756IDontBeatGames said:When Tom Nook is calling out Nintendo for being greedy you know we're cooked.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Excuse me? I offer 0% APR loans with flexible repayment schedules.Future Gazer Legend The FallenOct 26, 20174,414As it should be.Roliq Legend MemberSep 23, 20187,140Jawmuncher said:Was interesting to see everyone in the stream seemingly on the same page.With that said, I can't recall too many times where Nintendo "listened" to criticism like this and course corrected.The only thing that would really impact the game Game Prices would be if they seemingly don't do as well as they're expecting. Similar to how they lowered the price of the 3DS after sales were falling off.The period after the first 6 months will be interesting to see, as much like the WiiU, that's when the "hardcore" market should be accounted for and the rest is trying to get everyone else on board.Click to expand...Click to shrink...The thing is that a reason was that the first year of the 3DS sucked, for here we have an actual brand new Mario Kart since 8 and a new DK and Metroid Prime, Pokemon in the next monthsEven if they are on Switch the ones in Switch 2 will have better performanceLightsongMemberNov 11, 20228,699RpgN said:That's the way to make them understand.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Is it though?HoundMemberJul 6, 20192,018The hardware price seems fine. The software price, especially for upgrades to existing software, it out of line though. At $80 for a new game, it only make me wait for a sale and guarantees that I won't buy any non-exclusives on the system.Bill GaitasMemberOct 25, 20173,928John Nintendo will get right on thatGrimm FandangoMemberOct 28, 20173,181I must concur the welcome tour thing being priced is stupid, make it free.doemaaanMemberOct 27, 20172,652I'm surprised Nintendo never disabled chat. kimbo99MemberFeb 21, 20215,009Don't blame them at all. Still getting it, but pricing people out isn't a good lookLilo_DMemberOct 29, 2017534Well, with you know who raise the tariffsPeople (specifically in US) will shout out "drop the price" to many things : (LinkStrikesBackOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 27, 201718,404Someone should show them the inflation graphs, that'll for sure make them all feel silly and know the errors of their ways.CenaToon said:When people find about about the tariffs...Click to expand...Click to shrink...When people find out there are countries and people annoyed by this that don't live in the USA...Mr. PresidentMemberOct 27, 20173,489Nintendo's Switch 2 Treehouse Livestream Is Just a Flood of Angry Comments Shouting ______________Meg CherryMemberOct 25, 20177,752Seattle, WAYeah, Nintendo is in for another 3DS launch. Too high of a price for too low an upgrade, and it'll probably take a major price adjustment for it to eventually hit mass adoption.FossilPhantomMemberOct 22, 2019144Are people asking for Mario Kart to be $10 less or is it more about the cost of the console?The BoatMemberOct 28, 20175,058Witchcraft said:Nintendo's Switch 2 Treehouse Livestream Is Just a Flood of Angry Comments Shouting "DROP the PRICE" - IGNNintendos first post-Switch 2 Nintendo Direct Treehouse livestream is being flooded with angry comments from users calling on the company to DROP THE PRICE.www.ign.comIt also looks like there's already been a price drop in France? Users on social media are mentioning the price dropping to 439 .Click to expand...Click to shrink...There was no price drop, Nintendo doesn't set prices in Europe, prices often vary by retailer. Switch was 330, but you could find in cheaper than that.RumenappForza PhotographerMemberNov 9, 201716,625Slow news day for ign it seemsYuriLowellMemberOct 26, 20174,289This has the MW2 Boycott energy written all over it.Knight613MemberOct 25, 201723,806San FranciscoI wonder if current Nintendo would even think about a Switch 2 Ambassador Program if they dropped the price too soon. BassForeverOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 201731,443CTJohnnyToonami said:Outside of the ERA bubble, folks are not happy about this reveal overall.Tons of misinformation going around from those who just buy the new consoles and don't partake in the general discourse.Really interested in seeing how this unfolds over the rest of the year.Click to expand...Click to shrink...The era bubble is pretty upset too. Feels like we're back to 2017 when people said Switch was doomed.AxeMemberOct 27, 20173,437United KingdomThe duality of manSkel1ingt0nMemberOct 28, 201711,102People want it.People can't afford or justify it in 2025.We should all get used to not being able to afford luxury goods moving forward. It sucks ass, but it is what it is at this point.GarudaSmilesMemberDec 14, 20183,110Hound said:The hardware price seems fine. The software price, especially for upgrades to existing software, it out of line though. At $80 for a new game, it only make me wait for a sale and guarantees that I won't buy any non-exclusives on the system.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I agree. It's the software prices that are out of line. That and the tour game not being a pack in.LotusOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 2017121,912Not really sure what the issue is regarding the console, it delivered on just about every aspect other than not having an OLED screen, and $450 was predicted as the max for most. Though I don't know how it is in other regions obviouslyThe games on the other hand... please drop the price HeRingerMemberOct 28, 20174,744Jawmuncher said:Was interesting to see everyone in the stream seemingly on the same page.With that said, I can't recall too many times where Nintendo "listened" to criticism like this and course corrected.The only thing that would really impact the Game Prices would be if they seemingly don't do as well as they're expecting. Similar to how they lowered the price of the 3DS after sales were falling off.The period after the first 6 months will be interesting to see, as much like the WiiU, that's when the "hardcore" market should be accounted for and the rest is trying to get everyone else on board.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I think this time they will get away with it.KouriozanMemberOct 25, 201724,129The Boat said:There was no price drop, Nintendo doesn't set prices in Europe, prices often vary by retailer. Switch was 330, but you could find in cheaper than that.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yep, EU retailer are free the set whatever price they want, and in France videogame can get pretty cheap.I got Switch 1 day 1 at 294 and that 36 less than base price.Same for Mario Kart World being 69 in France right now, and 59 for Donkey Kong BananzaPoyunchThe FallenOct 25, 20172,951Jawmuncher said:Was interesting to see everyone in the stream seemingly on the same page.With that said, I can't recall too many times where Nintendo "listened" to criticism like this and course corrected.The only thing that would really impact the Game Prices would be if they seemingly don't do as well as they're expecting. Similar to how they lowered the price of the 3DS after sales were falling off.The period after the first 6 months will be interesting to see, as much like the WiiU, that's when the "hardcore" market should be accounted for and the rest is trying to get everyone else on board.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah it's giving 3DS vibes which is really funny since it's the same situation of moving from an extremely successful portable to its next iteration.I wonder if it's causing any concern to longtime Nintendo employees.NaiadMemberAug 27, 20203,108Dal said:I know AI summaries are awful but it was funny reading the one for the livestream's chat:"Viewers are upset about the price of the new Nintendo Switch game. They think it's too expensive and are demanding that Nintendo drop the price."Click to expand...Click to shrink...We've made it a game in some of my Discord servers about placing bets on how their AI bot will summarize some of our chats, it's incredibly funny.Ry.AVALANCHEMemberOct 10, 20213,359the planet ZebesI was playing 80 bucks for SNES games in the 90s. CDs allowed for major price cuts.I've always just figured it was a matter of time before that price point returned. Kinda surprised it took this long.

PhendriftMemberOct 25, 201733,170Shown in the last 30 seconds of the Direct, but here's the full list of games getting treehouse segments in the order listed:- Mario Kart World- GameChat- Super Mario Party NS2 Edition + Jamboree TV- Drag X Drive- Street Fighter 6 Switch 2 Edition- BotW and TotK Switch 2 Edition- Switch 2 Welcome Tour- Donkey Kong Bonanza- Bravely Default Remaster- Kirby & The Forgotten Land + Star Crossed World- Nintendo GameCube: Nintendo Classics- Metroid Prime 4: BeyondWith Prime 4 being last, I wonder if this is the order they're playing them in and they'll end with a release date for it.Edit: here's timesAngie said:April 3 at 6:00 a.m. PT / 9:00 a.m. ET / 22:00 JST. YouTube (Americas, Europe, Japan) and Nintendo.com (Americas, Europe, Japan).Click to expand...Click to shrink...Angie said:PhendriftApril 4, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. PT / 10:00 a.m. ET. You will be able to watch it on YouTube.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Last edited: Yesterday at 12:26 PM MarioleeAvengerOct 25, 201711,291Excellent, will be here for Mario Kart World, Metroid Prime 4, and Donkey Kong BonanzaL176MemberJan 10, 2019923Is there somewhere where we can see the times for these?claudelabonteMemberOct 27, 2017238St-LambertDONKEY KONG BANANZA YES!!!!!AngieBest Avatar Thread Ever!MemberNov 20, 201748,540Kingdom of CoronaDK alone is hypeWasn't expecting thatkuroneko0509MemberOct 25, 20172,569huh they'll show bdff remaster? interestingBrodo BagginsMemberOct 27, 20175,415Dang was hoping to see more Hyrule Warriors but I guess that is outside the launch window so they won't be kicking off marketing til closer to release.tiebreaker"This guy are sick"MemberOct 25, 201714,198Only Bloodborne 2 I was interested to see more of and it's not there.DK is a buy, I don't need to see more lolVampirololMemberDec 13, 20176,547Great lineup, and Prime 4 finally! Guess they will finally show a little more of that gameLotusOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 2017121,912DK, Donkey Kong~Can't wait AngieBest Avatar Thread Ever!MemberNov 20, 201748,540Kingdom of CoronaL176 said:Is there somewhere where we can see the times for these?Click to expand...Click to shrink...April 3 at 6:00 a.m. PT / 9:00 a.m. ET / 22:00 JST. YouTube (Americas, Europe, Japan) and Nintendo.com (Americas, Europe, Japan).OP OPPhendriftMemberOct 25, 201733,170Brodo Baggins said:Dang was hoping to see more Hyrule Warriors but I guess that is outside the launch window so they won't be kicking off marketing til closer to release.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah, we'll likely get more on that and air ride in a June direct or somethingFaiyazMemberNov 30, 20176,338Bangladesh^Same, wish Age of Imprisonment was also there, but looks solid.STGHMAAVMemberOct 26, 2017332Don't think with the current buzz abput prices they're gonna activate the chat for the streamsStoofUncle Works at NintendoMemberOct 25, 20175,114All in to see the new DKMarcelloF"This guy are sick"MemberDec 9, 20209,415Phendrift said:With Prime 4 being last, I wonder if this is the order they're playing them in and they'll end with a release date for it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Hopefully, because I'll definitely be home from work by then lolZen HeroMemberOct 25, 20175,936Omg they're playing DK? I will definitely catch the footage at some point.NotLiquidOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 201737,365Ohhh baby it's Prime timeFalchionMemberOct 25, 201743,913Looking forward to a Mario Kart deep dive.AngieBest Avatar Thread Ever!MemberNov 20, 201748,540Kingdom of CoronaPhendrift April 4, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. PT / 10:00 a.m. ET. You will be able to watch it on YouTube. MandosMemberNov 27, 201737,998Ahhh so no surprises then. Plenty of fun thoZebesian-XMemberDec 3, 201824,743Thank god for Prime 4 gameplay, it desperately needs a blowoutcw_sasukeMemberOct 27, 201729,375Ill be there for MK World, Prime 4 and DK.NaikoGamesMemberAug 1, 20223,643oh baby thats a lineup alrightRailWaysOne Winged SlayerAvengerOct 25, 201717,679In for Mario Kart, DK, and MetroidOP OPPhendriftMemberOct 25, 201733,170Angie said:PhendriftApril 4, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. PT / 10:00 a.m. ET. You will be able to watch it on YouTube.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Thanks! Put your posts in the OPFreelance BrianMemberOct 25, 20172,015In there for Prime 4KimbouMemberJan 22, 2021891Sounds great!I hope Drag x Drive leaves a better impression after seeing more of it here.CloseTalkerSister in the CraftMemberOct 25, 201737,566god speed to the poor soul that needs to try and sell that wheelchair basketball gameKaitosTens across the board!ModeratorOct 25, 201718,199Metroid omg yes KouriozanMemberOct 25, 201724,129Sad no Warriors, it'd be a great way to show the incredible power of the Switch 2 with tons of ennemies and fps not hitting sub 20 like Age of Calamity lmaoMetroidMemberOct 27, 2017204Here's hoping for a MP4 release date during the treehouse!Yoshimitsu126The FallenNov 11, 201716,812United StatesI hope they show off how Switch 2 handles BC on titles that don't have Switch 2 editions. Like I can play Xenoblade X even slower if it's confirmed the resolution can be output to 1440p or even higher frame rate.OP OPPhendriftMemberOct 25, 201733,170Metroid said:Here's hoping for a MP4 release date during the treehouse!Click to expand...Click to shrink...The list in the OP is the order listed in the direct and it's not alphabetical or anything, they gotta be ending on it and announcing the date let's hopeNeverxProphet of Truth - One Winged SlayerMemberSep 17, 20203,778FloridaPrime 4 needs a release date already. Really wish it was at launchLotusOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 25, 2017121,912Kouriozan said:Sad no Warriors, it'd be a great way to show the incredible power of the Switch 2 with tons of ennemies and fps not hitting sub 20 like Age of Calamity lmaoClick to expand...Click to shrink...They should just play Age of Calamity and see how long it takes someone to notice, then play it off as the power of the Switch 2RyudoMemberJun 19, 20241,058Will definitely tune in for the Mario Kart and Donkey Kong segments. Both games look really fun.NabiscoFeltOne Winged SlayerMemberAug 15, 20198,288Weak set of games overall but it'll be cool to get more from the big ones (MK, DK, Prime)hsojlightfootAVALANCHEMemberApr 6, 20205,722Tempted for MP4. Hopefully gets release date at this.JasperMystPowered by FriendshipMemberSep 25, 2023657Has it been confirmed who's working on the new DK game? Always found it weird how Nintendo doesn't show which developer is working on their IP's, like with the whole Mario RPG scenario.So weird and so very Nintendo.Assuming it's the Odyssey team of course. JCalMemberOct 27, 20179,465Los AlfheimOhh Prime 4. Now I'm interestedwingthorMemberSep 18, 2021910Why would they announce a release date at a treehouse and not the direct? I don't think that's ever happened.Starphanluke Legend MemberNov 15, 20178,270I still think we may get a Prime 4 release date this week.wingthor said:Why would they announce a release date at a treehouse and not the direct? I don't think that's ever happened.Click to expand...Click to shrink...They've announced entire Metroid games in Treehouses lol.I imagine it might be to help the game get its own headline separate from all the others.mnkMemberNov 11, 20177,775The worst part of the Direct not having any new games I cared about is now there's nothing in the Treehouse I care about. :(AxeMemberOct 27, 20173,437United KingdomThe GameChat segment will be worth watching just for the high chance of it going horribly wrong.GreywarenMemberJul 16, 201912,565SpainCool! Looking forward to more Mario Kart and Donkey Kong.Spooky_LanternMemberNov 21, 20172,063Gimme dat Metroid prime 4SavinownedMemberOct 25, 20171,452Nashville, TNImagine Team Cherry pops up nonchalantly to show a demoOP OPPhendriftMemberOct 25, 201733,170Starphanluke said:I still think we may get a Prime 4 release date this week.They've announced entire Metroid games in Treehouses lol.I imagine it might be to help the game get its own headline separate from all the others.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I think Nintendo is experimenting with how they give news. Announcement on treehouse + Nintendo Today maybe?Ocarina_117MemberOct 26, 20179,848Hopefully we get a big trailer for MP4.The direct one was very tame, to put it one way

PC Gaming ThreadsAge of Empires II: Definitive Edition DLC - Mentalist - Out April?AoE 2 DE is coming to PlayStation. The console version will include ALL the content released to date, making it basically the best strategy game value EVER. But fro those of us on PC, an insane balance overhaul/update patch is coming. Along with a new...Read more

Dancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Holstin is a psychological survival horror game set in an eerie, isolated 90's Polish town consumed by an ominous presence. You've come looking for answers, but everyone seems possessed by something foul. Explore the festering town, interrogate locals and fight ungodly manifestations to get to the truth.The Janowski House Demo presented in the trailer will be available on Steam in January 2023.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Trailer appears to be centered on the upcoming 'Janowski House Demo' with screenshots on Steam showing off a bit of the town itself: PucePikminMemberApr 26, 20185,087Digging the (intentionally) grubby art style.CHCMemberOct 27, 201711,056Cool vibeMessofanegoMemberOct 25, 201729,251UKThat pixel art in 3D looks really impressive. Not many games do that. I think Replaced is also doing it?TM_MemberOct 1, 2022408Looks cool. Nice to have voice acting in Polish.OP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Messofanego said:That pixel art in 3D looks really impressive.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah, the lighting looks especially fantastic!Is_that_my_horseMemberMay 28, 2020155Ok yeah this does indeed look cool.MessofanegoMemberOct 25, 201729,251UKDancrane212 said:Yeah, the lighting looks especially fantastic!Click to expand...Click to shrink...Fuck, that's sexymztikMemberOct 25, 20174,046Tokyo, JapanLiking the art style and game direction. Definitely putting it on my wishlist.Threadmarks Targeting PC and consolesIndexOP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Gematsu article confirming the game is launching on PC and TBA consoles.Psychological horror survival game Holstin announced for consoles, PC - GematsuPolish developer Sonka has announced Holstin, psychological horror survival game inspired by Resident Evil, Silent Hill, and Twin Peaks. It will launch for consoles and PC via Steam in 2023.www.gematsu.comIndex McStickensteinMemberOct 27, 20171,496The art style reminds me of Signalis, which I played briefly but never finished.DevilMayGuyMemberOct 25, 201713,860TexasLooks greatTransEuropaExpressMemberDec 6, 201711,346USOkay I was ready to mock the game's logo being a straight Silent Hill rip but got reeled back in by the fantastic visual style. This looks fantastic in motion, seriously.I hope it delivers because I just went to 100% interest.Edit: Didn't see the clip where it shows the camera rotations...that looks awesome.TransEuropaExpressMemberDec 6, 201711,346USMessofanego said:Fuck, that's sexyClick to expand...Click to shrink...I've found myself coming back to this thread just to indulge in the art porn here. This and Signalis look so good in this "updated PS1" vein. I don't have technical knowlege but that's what it looks like to me.PerzevalProphet of TruthAvengerOct 25, 201711,066SwedenIn my dreams I see that fontOP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Just outstanding:Threadmarks Playtest signups live on SteamIndexOP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Sign up now for the first playtest of Holstin: The Janowski House and set your New Year's resolution to 480x270!https://store.steampowered.com/app/2235430/Holstin/IndexOP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Codes for the demo are getting dropped via the game's Twitter account:OP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Steam invites are starting to roll out to folk who applied.Thrill_houseBannedOct 27, 201711,805Ohhhhh man. This looks fantastic. I love that grimey late 90s isometric pc/ps1 look. They will be getting my money at full release most likely. wafflebrainMemberOct 27, 201712,077Saw this game on my twitter feed today, can't say I've seen a perspective shift like this in a game before for combat, looks cool af:View: https://twitter.com/holstingame/status/1676247594425516034View: https://twitter.com/holstingame/status/1674484008170803200Still need to try out the playtest that I apparently got into some time ago. Anywho love the vibe this is going for, and that dynamic lighting works really well with this art style. The dev mentioned a public demo is planned for late July.carlsojoShinra EmployeeMemberOct 28, 201736,681San Franciscowafflebrain said:Saw this game on my twitter feed today, can't say I've seen a perspective shift like this in a game before for combat, looks cool af:View: https://twitter.com/holstingame/status/1676247594425516034Still need to try out the playtest that I apparently got into some time ago. Anywho love the vibe this is going for, and that dynamic lighting works really well with this art style.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Holy shit that is slick as helloldbossShinra EmployeeMemberNov 9, 20171,568wafflebrain said:Saw this game on my twitter feed today, can't say I've seen a perspective shift like this in a game before for combat, looks cool af:View: https://twitter.com/holstingame/status/1676247594425516034View: https://twitter.com/holstingame/status/1674484008170803200Still need to try out the playtest that I apparently got into some time ago. Anywho love the vibe this is going for, and that dynamic lighting works really well with this art style. The dev mentioned a public demo is planned for late July.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Wow. Damn. This is super cool. Really psyched to try it out!eXistorMemberOct 27, 201713,449Damn, this game looks cool as hell.BlackbirdUnshakable Resolve - Prophet of TruthMemberOct 25, 20177,145Brazilwhat in the world...this looks fantastic.VADMemberOct 28, 20176,058The shift from isometric to over the shoulder camera is brilliant.bunkitzBrave Little SparkModeratorOct 28, 201715,750Woah, that perspective switch is sick. Looks great.Mister NiwaMemberOct 25, 2017229Wasn't this supposed to come out in January?? I can't wait to play it!NorsuchampMemberFeb 6, 20201,095Did not expect that camera angle at all. Quite an awesome twist to a game that already looked pretty slick.KnivesAndCoinsMemberOct 27, 20171,180Roma, ItaliaThis is at the absolute top of my wishlist, wondering when it'll come out - are we there yet? Are we there yet? Did the devs say anything abouta release? OP OPDancrane212MemberOct 25, 201714,108Mister Niwa said:Wasn't this supposed to come out in January?? I can't wait to play it!Click to expand...Click to shrink...Just the demo.Mister NiwaMemberOct 25, 2017229Dancrane212 said:Just the demo.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Ohhh I see!SkelatixMemberOct 28, 2017332South AfricaNecro bump... but the 2nd demo portion has just been released for those that played the original demo or still has it installed.MessofanegoMemberOct 25, 201729,251UKOh thanks for the reminder, will try to play the demo.PLASTICA-MANMemberOct 26, 201728,493How did I miss this? Thanks for the bump.SkelatixMemberOct 28, 2017332South AfricaWow already been over a year since the last necrobump from me.They have released a new trailer showing off some of the semi open world gameplay:View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6DycShov7I"Alongside production, we've also been slowly building up to our next big move. We've decided that to keep the game fully independent and true to our vision, we're going to turn to our community through Kickstarter to help finalize and shape the game."Teaser kickstarter page can be located here:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sonkagames/holstin

Red Kong XIXMemberOct 11, 202012,713With the increased hardware prices, increased game prices, the paid upgrades, and the paid tech demo, it certainly feels like Nintendo is pushing the limits of customer loyalty. You think Nintendo has become arrogant due to the massive success they had with the first Switch? KillyohMemberOct 28, 20171,727Paris, FranceAlways wasGoldenhenMemberOct 27, 2017246SydneyI thought the price was increase due to USS taiff taken place today.nofflesUncle Works at NintendoMemberNov 10, 20171,118when weren't they?NovumVeritasMemberOct 26, 201710,790BerlinNintendo is a company, and they know how to play their cards well.JoeInkyMemberOct 25, 20173,872All hardware makers and AAA publishers are arrogant and have been the whole time, there's no "becoming" hereGavalancheProphet of RegretMemberOct 21, 202124,995Nah, the world is just screwed up right now in terms of costs. Everything is going up. And the paid tech demo is nothing new. 1 2 Switch was kind of like that.MatrixMan.exeMemberOct 25, 20179,751Has nothing to do with "arrogance". They're a business and will always try to push the limits of what they can get away with when it comes to pricing.Dr.OsirisMemberOct 14, 20181,153They have always been imoTsunami561MemberMar 7, 20235,140 Agni KaiMemberNov 2, 20179,699I sometimes feel we give videogame companies the benefit of the doubt way more often than we do with other companies.Fuck them all.MimicBox82MemberJan 9, 20185,329SwedenAlways arrogant cheapskates who make good games.TechnicPuppetMemberOct 28, 201711,743I voted yes, not sure if arrogance is the correct word though. Presumptive maybe.PyroGod help us the mods are making weekend threadsMemberJul 30, 201818,115United StatesHardware pricing is due to tariffs and inflation. But Mario Kart World, the sequel to the best-selling Switch game (and maybe best-selling Nintendo game of all time?) being priced $10 above the standard is absolutely arrogant.BigjigMemberJun 4, 20181,342The paid tech demo I'll give you, everything else is Nintendo doing what literally every other player in the game industry is doingPlinkertonMemberNov 4, 20177,315Oh god the terrible takes have begun...Nintendo is a corporation; don't apply human emotions to them.The SilverMemberOct 28, 201711,384It's too early for the arrogant part of the cycle, Nintendo truly blazing their own trail.MadaoAvalanche's One Winged SlayerMemberOct 26, 20175,453Panamathey were already arrogant once the Switch 1 saw success. what else would you call a console that never saw price drops in 8 years?you'll only see good deals and price drops when there's failures like the Wii U.pbayneCorrupted by VengeanceMemberOct 27, 201710,919what tech company is "humble" or how are they arrogant?MafroMemberOct 25, 20179,029 ConflictResolverMemberJan 1, 20243,839MidgarI think they are going to be in for a rude awakening for how the market reacts to the game prices.Console price is ok, I'll give them that.matrix-catMemberOct 27, 201710,345Textbook case of Arrogant NintendoGlasfrutAvengerOct 27, 20174,750I think Nintendo has always been...pragmatic and...principled. To a fault.The hardware pricing reflects the current reality of the world. The game pricing is...them perhaps not wanting to go for GaaS as a way to make up for increased costs/budgets?I just wonder if they'll be open to discounting games more often from here on.I would definitely call Sony arrogant if they pulled the same move so then...yes...Nintendo is arrogant? I don't know Hero ProtagonistMemberSep 26, 2024832Nintendo produces billion dollar Hollywood movies and builds theme park attractions now they have built themselves into a world renowned brand. Like with Disney, people are expected to pay more for such premium productsJooMemberMay 25, 20184,397This kind of thing about "arrogant business" like it's a thing with feelings always feels like a thought process of a ten-year-old (sorry if you are one). It's always annoying when the prices increase, but Nintendo (like any other business) will try to push the limits and folks just have to vote on their wallets. There's not much to do if the increased prices don't affect their sales other than not to buy them yourself. Also there's several reasons why the costs of electronics has gone way up and gaming business in general is also in a bit of a turbulence.OdinsmanaMemberMar 13, 20193,507Did they ever stop being arrogant? Nintendo has always been the Apple of gaming when it comes to business.Knight613MemberOct 25, 201723,800San FranciscoIt's honestly probably less about arrogance and more about a similar mentality that Sony had (maybe still has?) back when they were doing cross gen upgrades and stuff.Basically they put in X amount of resources into doing them and so they believe they can charge for them.Which I guess is fair and realistically the only reason Microsoft didn't charge for those upgrades are because they needed to try to gain ground with good will gestures somehow.I cannot really begin to defend $80 games though. I assume it's because game cards using MicroSD Express is expensive compared to normal MicroSD stuff the Switch used. Basically N64'd themselves there.MeltedDreamsMemberOct 27, 20179,275I just saw this. The answer is yes! :pTuybrushGhreepwoodMemberJan 9, 2024380They always were.AnilP228MemberMar 14, 20181,869The only egrigious thing in yesterday's direct was the paid demo. Genuinely laughable.The price of the console makes sense given it's a much more capable relative to Switch 1. For Switch 1, Nintendo got an absurdly good deal on the Tegra. Much more ram, more storage etc.The one thing that is clear to me is that they are sitting on a lot of unannounced software. If Prime 4 was an exclusive I think the overall feeling towards yesterday would be very different. GreywarenMemberJul 16, 201912,543SpainNintendo has been arrogant for quite a while. As much as I love their games, they're one of the greediest companies out there.JoeshabadooMemberJan 3, 20191,655Need an option for 'yea a little'.They're still doing weird shit and experimenting and not taking themselves too seriously, plus their games continue to look like straight fire buuuuut the economics are indeed troubling and only marginally BARELY easier to swallow if we were to learn that their internal developers were among the best compensated in the industry.Still, fuck off with $80 gamesblueredandgoldMemberOct 25, 20178,203I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with anybody but I've always chucked when the "corporations aren't your friend" chestnut always seems to be forgotten when we want ascribe these sorts of personality traits to any sort of organisation.No they aren't your friend, but then it would also seem they're a friend who has wronged you in some way egregiously awful and personal way.Every time.moqzMemberJan 28, 2025303Agni Kai said:I sometimes feel we give videogame companies the benefit of the doubt way more often than we do with other companies.Fuck them all.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Idk why anyone would give any company out there the benefit of the doubt. You can probably count on one hand the amount that wouldn't step on your neck for $1 more profit.nsilviasMemberOct 25, 201729,297them struggling with 3rd parties during a couple gens didnt give it away?VormundMemberOct 27, 20171,802That Welcome tour demo should be pre installed. Only thing that rubbed me the wrong way.liquidtmdAvengerOct 28, 20176,607Nintendo had great success with the Wii and Switch, in times when I initially didn't think they would, so honestly it doesn't matter what I think.I have had a Switch effectively for about four games, and id say it's just been about worth it (the amount of hours my kids have enjoyed Mario Kart and Animal Crossing probably surpasses my total gaming time on all games on my PS5, and it's been a joy to play with them / share that experience).As it stands, I'm not getting one launch day. Give it some time and a new 3D Mario, and I'll probably get the Switch 2 for the same reasons I got a Switch 1. It isn't really going to get much use though for non exclusive 3rd party gamesLast edited: Today at 4:25 AMCamisadoMemberNov 3, 20171,549Vormund said:That Welcome tour demo should be pre installed. Only thing that rubbed me the wrong way.Click to expand...Click to shrink...This! I was on a call when it was announced, and jokingly said "Oh, I see they really liked Astro's playroom then" and then they announced it was paid I changed my tune to "Oh sorry, I mean Astrobot"Dumb joke I know, but it's wild to me that something that is designed to show you what your new fancy purchase can do isn't a free pre-install.PoimandresMemberOct 26, 20177,744Arrogant I don't think so. Just stingy, which they have been for a long time.LAAOne Winged SlayerMemberOct 28, 20173,019Always has been to a degree.Tbh, the game prices to me seem in part due to the increased read speed on the carts, so I don't see it as they're doing it solely because they think they can get away with it. The digital prices I guess counter that though that they are still raised, though not as much as physical.The Switch 2 Edition prices to be are more showing of their arrogance to me, I've seen better upgrades for similar prices, on the visual/performance side, a lot of these Editions are things I'd have expected to be free. Same with their welcome tour paid tech demo too ha. It doesn't even seem on the level of the built in Astro bot, so don't know what they were thinking there. cw_sasukeMemberOct 27, 201729,327They run their business differently compared to other companies, so they will usually be more open with the upfront costs. Meanwhile others might hide the production costs behind lower initial prices only to drop the micro transaction Hammer or you realize later that the development team was killed because the budget can't be recouped.It's really no rocket science, they charge what they think they have to be for their business to be viable. Either you are on board or you aren't, there are plenty other alternatives out there in terms of gaming.The Direct yesterday was a mess imo, but at least they weren't sugar coating how the game look and perform like right now and didn't sugar coat the pricing for this stuff. Even if it bad for people, at least the information is there to make decisions.Personally I also think they still have quite a bit to unveil when it comes to the content their are offering. I think after Treehouse we will know more, especially if we might see more recent builds of the games.Dogo MojoMemberOct 27, 20172,426Corporations are not your friends, even if they make your favorite toys.DanielsanMemberOct 26, 20176,855The NetherlandsThey've always been arrogant, but now more than ever. I mean, during the Switch era they didn't even do price drops on games. Only their standard 20 dollar off promotions. Now they're moving to 70-80 bucks. Guess we'll see their first party games not going lower than 50 dollars.immortal-joeMemberOct 25, 20171,655Man, some of you are young huh?AxisofweevilsMemberOct 25, 20172,121The console price is fine, the game prices are ridiculous. Nintendo was the last to hit $70 last gen and the first to hit $80 this gen.But as for the pack in game, i remember exactly the same comments being made about 1-2 switch.FirestormMemberOct 25, 20171,732Vancouver, BCThe Switch came out in March 2017. $60 in 2017 is worth $80 in 2025. I really don't know if it's much more complicated than that.Knight613MemberOct 25, 201723,800San Franciscoimmortal-joe said:Man, some of you are young huh?Click to expand...Click to shrink...Just waiting for a Nintendo exec to start telling people to get a second job to buy a Switch 2. Obviously it'll never happen because they aren't that crazy (nor do they really do interviews).AshenOneMemberFeb 21, 20186,768PakistanAranikasu44MemberDec 3, 2018583There's too many gimmicks that are already functional on other consoles and they are making it sound gloriously new.- Gamechat (Party Chat)- ScreenShare- Game Share (I mean if you link an account to two consoles lol)Add into that the fact that Sony were already charging 10 for first party upgrades and now Civ 7 doing the same as a third party opens the doors even further for third parties to now jump on this.What makes it worse for all users across all platforms now.is 10 if it has no new features, 20 if it does.Sony will be watching like hawks to see how this received and if it works out for Nintendo will 100% follow this route if not increase to 20Tom Nook Says...MemberJan 15, 20196,745I guess I'd vote for a soft yes.Free upgrades to BotW and TotK for NSO subscribers, with $10 upgrades for other games? Not arrogant.Selling TotK and BotW "Switch 2 Editions" at full price with the upgrades added on for a total of $80 and $70 respectively? Arrogant.Pricing the Switch 2 at $449.99? Not amazing, but certainly fair. Not arrogant.Pricing a Switch 2 bundle at $499.99 with Mario Kart World, a full price game, included from day one? Pretty solid deal actually.Said full price being $80? Arrogant.Having a little demo that introduces you to features of the Switch 2 and tells you facts about it? Cool, whatever.Not making that little demo a free pack-in game? Arrogant.Adding Gamecube games to NSO without making it some higher 3rd subscription tier? Great, not arrogant.Giving away the gamechat feature for the first 9-ish months? Not arrogant.Accessory and controller pricing? A little on the high side, maybe enough to be added to the arrogant column.So, yeah, kind of a mixed bag but I've definitely seen them in less audacious postures before.

mavericktopgunMemberOct 27, 20175,067No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game. Not graphically nor image quality wise.So, does the Switch 2 really support DLSS?Remember the rumour with the Matrix UE5 Demo? I don't believe the Switch 2 can run that after yesterdays presentation.:(Last edited: Today at 4:50 AM LewiePMemberOct 26, 201719,478I think Cyberpunk on Switch 2 looks a lot better than Cyberpunk on Switch 1.My guess is DLSS is there, but due to limited time and wanting to focus on other things, it was not mentioned.XandoMemberOct 28, 201735,751I would be surprised if they could offer the resolutions and frame rates they advertised without some kind of upscaling technique. Whether that's dlss or something else we will have to seensilviasMemberOct 25, 201729,297they are using the tensor cores for stuff on switch 2 so theoretically yes.xylaMemberOct 27, 20179,374GermanyCompare Cyberpunk with Witcher 3 on the Switch. We saw FFVII and SW Outlaws. None of them would look anything close on SW1. They would just not run at all probably. Give it some time. Dev kits have not been handed out for that long (I guess) and maybe the DLSS hooks were not in yet (isn't it usually one of the later steps for games?) - it wouldn't make any sense if Nintendo went with a modern, custom Nvidia chip but left out DLSS capabilities. Stranger things have happened but I'm feeling good about what I've seen. Compare that to a Steam Deck for example - a lot of games look super washed out because of FSR2/3 and 800p max - this doesn't seem comparable.bushmonkeyMemberOct 29, 20176,005Nintendo aren't the kind of company to mention something like DLSS that most of their audience wouldn't understand or care about. We'll see what Digital Foundry has to say when they get their hands on it :)Bony ManifestoMemberOct 27, 20174,264They surely wouldn't have gone with a 1080p screen if there wasn't some form of high quality upscaling. But on the other hand, a lot of the games in the Direct (mostly the third party ones) had some pretty rough upscaled image quality.strudelkuchenMemberOct 25, 201712,999[Digital Foundry] Switch 2 Unveiled - Games, Hardware, Specs + More - A DF Direct Specialhttps://youtu.be/BC8XX9pwP40www.resetera.comSounds like no DLSS.KhaiduMemberOct 28, 2017266mavericktopgun said:No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game. Not graphically nor image quality wise.So, does the Switch 2 really support DLSS?Remember the rumour with the Matrix UE5 Demo? I don't believe the Switch 2 can run that after yesterdays presentation.:(Click to expand...Click to shrink...DLSS isn't some magic formula to create amazing visuals. It will always be iterative, especially on a handheld platform.OP OPmavericktopgunMemberOct 27, 20175,067I hoped Switch 1 games would run in docked mode even in portable mode on Switch 2.. Sub 540p Switch 1 games on that 1080p screen will look BAD. --RBeing sued right now, please help me find a lawyerMemberOct 25, 201715,139mavericktopgun said:I hoped Switch 1 games would run in docked mode even in portable mode on Switch 2..Sub 540p Switch 1 games on that 1080p screen will look BAD.Click to expand...Click to shrink...That has nothing to do with DLSS lol. That's down to their BC solution.BulbyProphet of TruthMemberOct 29, 20175,865BerlinKhaidu said:DLSS isn't some magic formula to create amazing visuals. It will always be iterative, especially on a handheld platform.Click to expand...Click to shrink...This was my thought.Not sure what you think DLSS is.If they can run Zelda at 1440p 60s natively, thats a better option than potentially degrading IQ and using up frame time.SwitchDeckMemberFeb 5, 2025162I'd wait and see footage from Treehouse live today, they might be showing off newer builds than what the trailers were based onKing_MocMemberOct 25, 20174,640Has everyone lost their minds or something? Nothing that looked much better? The two major first party games didn't even look remotely possible on switch 1, metroid is doing 4k60, and then you've got stuff like cyberpunk and star wars outlaws in there too.WtfpigeonsMemberAug 6, 2020544King_Moc said:Has everyone lost their minds or something? Nothing that looked much better? The two major first party games didn't even look remotely possible on switch 1, metroid is doing 4k60, and then you've got stuff like cyberpunk and star wars outlaws in there too.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I think people are forgetting about the fps drops and dynamic resolution in games.DeadlyVenomMemberApr 3, 20183,339King_Moc said:Has everyone lost their minds or something? Nothing that looked much better? The two major first party games didn't even look remotely possible on switch 1, metroid is doing 4k60, and then you've got stuff like cyberpunk and star wars outlaws in there too.Click to expand...Click to shrink...My Donkey Kong wasn't ray traced. 0/10Mr.DeadshotMemberOct 27, 201722,672King_Moc said:Has everyone lost their minds or something? Nothing that looked much better? The two major first party games didn't even look remotely possible on switch 1, metroid is doing 4k60, and then you've got stuff like cyberpunk and star wars outlaws in there too.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Cyberpunk and Outlaws will be very interesting because they run and look not especially GREAT on a base PS5 in some places. Especially Outlaws can have some very rough IQ.AlehMemberOct 27, 201719,410"No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game. Not graphically nor image quality wise."This is an insane take and makes you look like a trollJackDTMemberOct 27, 20171,137Digital Foundry concluded that the GPU in the Switch 2 was too weak to use the regular DLSS that PC NVidia cards use, it would take too long per frame on that GPU, even though the hardware supports it. (The newest DLSS 4.0, the transformer mode, even more expensive.) But they found a paper from either NVIDIA or Nintendo about an extra lightweight DLSS technique that would be fast enough on the Switch 2. So Nintendo can't just toggle on DLSS like a PC GPU, they need their custom version to be ready, and maybe it's not there yet.King_MocMemberOct 25, 20174,640Mr.Deadshot said:Cyberpunk and Outlaws will be very interesting because they run and look not especially GREAT on a base PS5 in some places. Especially Outlaws can have some very rough IQ.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Outlaws looked absolutely garbage in all modes on PS5. I can only assume they implemented a non rtx global lighting solution just for this port. strife85MemberOct 30, 20171,755Maybe they'll have an option for docked mode?King_MocMemberOct 25, 20174,640strife85 said:Maybe they'll have an option for docked mode?Click to expand...Click to shrink...I think the very low tensor core count means it might actually be used in handheld mode (if they use it at all). 540p > 1080p needs to generate an extra 1.5 million pixels. 1080p to 4k needs to generate 6 million.I think their patent only showed 540p > 1080p as an example too.Might even be possible that the rumoured lightweight model is reliant on the 1:1 integer scaling of 540p > 1080p?cw_sasukeMemberOct 27, 201729,327Trailers seem to be mostly from older builds of the games, lets see how things look like on treehouse. I would assume these games would be ported first to run naively and only after the fact try to apply DLSS and compare the results, deciding if it makes sense performance/quality wise.At the end of the day its still a console launch, so a lot of software is gonna come in hot in terms of optimization just to hit the release date. And yes i would expect a lot of titles to have essential Day 1 patches as well.OP OPmavericktopgunMemberOct 27, 20175,067Aleh said:"No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game. Not graphically nor image quality wise."This is an insane take and makes you look like a trollClick to expand...Click to shrink...I'm not a troll but look at the new Hyrule Warriors game.. if I told you this was coming to Switch 1 and was Switch 1 footage you would believe it.jp2123MemberMay 28, 20215I sincerely question if OP even has a Switch 1.mavericktopgun said:No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game. Not graphically nor image quality wise.Click to expand...Click to shrink...When was the last time you played a Switch 1 game? Because that's a wild statement.Switch 2 is noticeably a generational leap over Switch 1OP OPmavericktopgunMemberOct 27, 20175,067jp2123 said:I sincerely question if OP even has a Switch 1.When was the last time you played a Switch 1 game? Because that's a wild statement.Switch 2 is noticeably a generational leap over Switch 1Click to expand...Click to shrink...I own 4 Switches. V1,V2, Lite and OLED and I know how a game like Hyrule Warriors looks on it because I own a few hundred games, including this one.KhaiduMemberOct 28, 2017266mavericktopgun said:I'm not a troll but look at the new Hyrule Warriors game.. if I told you this was coming to Switch 1 and was Switch 1 footage you would believe it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Visual fidelity isn't the only thing that makes a game demanding.JoRuMemberOct 25, 20171,924mavericktopgun said:I'm not a troll but look at the new Hyrule Warriors game.. if I told you this was coming to Switch 1 and was Switch 1 footage you would believe it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...They're literally trying to recreate the look of Tears of the Kingdom, so it looking like that game should not be much of surprise. Using a Warriors game as indication of anything regarding what a system can do doesn't feel like a very good idea, either.OP OPmavericktopgunMemberOct 27, 20175,067Khaidu said:Visual fidelity isn't the only thing that makes a game demanding.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Would you say, that they showed a game that really demonstrates the power of the Switch 2? Be honest.PS5 had Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and Demon's Souls Remake and both showed a generational leap over PS4.AlehMemberOct 27, 201719,410mavericktopgun said:I'm not a troll but look at the new Hyrule Warriors game.. if I told you this was coming to Switch 1 and was Switch 1 footage you would believe it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...The last Hyrule Warriors was low res, low fps, and looked bad on top of that this one is high res, high (and most importantly stable) fps and looks a lot better. I would definitely not think it's a Switch 1 game. NoppieMemberOct 27, 201714,457mavericktopgun said:Would you say, that they showed a game that really demonstrates the power of the Switch 2? Be honest.Click to expand...Click to shrink...This was not your original statement tho, stop moving goalposts.logashMemberOct 27, 20175,973double postlogashMemberOct 27, 20175,973mavericktopgun said:I'm not a troll but look at the new Hyrule Warriors game.. if I told you this was coming to Switch 1 and was Switch 1 footage you would believe it.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I wouldn't since it isn't a slide show.Rinku_MemberMay 4, 20231,870OP I think we should wait for more footage, especially direct feed stuff which we should hopefully be getting very soon. The DF guys already mentioned that the ER trailer was completely borked and it wasn't actually running all that choppy.2CL4MarsMemberNov 9, 20182,351jp2123 said:Switch 2 is noticeably a generational leap over Switch 1Click to expand...Click to shrink...Is PS4 to 5 a generational leap?julia crawfordTook the red AND the blue pillsMemberOct 27, 201740,158i for one would welcome knowing that switch 2 games will have no reconstruction artifacts, i've grown weary of themxpownz Legend MemberFeb 13, 20202,813Did switch 1 already enter nostalgia territory?Because this is surely a take...goddamn, MKWorld and Bananza looked amazing and wouldnt run on the first switch with that image quality and stable fps...BoredLemonMemberNov 11, 20171,084julia crawford said:i for one would welcome knowing that switch 2 games will have no reconstruction artifacts, i've grown weary of themClick to expand...Click to shrink...Even if it doesn't have DLSS, Switch 2 still will have reconstruction artifact, it's just gonna be TAAU/FSR2 artifacts, which is worse. See: Split fiction switch 2 footage.KhaiduMemberOct 28, 2017266mavericktopgun said:Would you say, that they showed a game that really demonstrates the power of the Switch 2? Be honest.PS5 had Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and Demon's Souls Remake and both showed a generational leap over PS4.Click to expand...Click to shrink...That's not how this thread started but fine. I would say most of the games showed the power of Switch 2. You're doing the mistake of thinking that Nintendo consoles push raw power, which they don't. The hardware is old even before it's launched, and you're comparing with PS5 visuals? Check your expectations.EphonkAvengerOct 25, 20172,375BelgiumThis is certainly a take:mavericktopgun said:No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game. Not graphically nor image quality wise.Click to expand...Click to shrink...What switch 1 game looks like this (at 60fps, 1440p)? That's not even mentioning the games that weren't possible on switch like Elden Ring, CP77 and Star Wars Outlaws. LCGeekMemberOct 28, 20176,311mavericktopgun said:Would you say, that they showed a game that really demonstrates the power of the Switch 2? Be honest.PS5 had Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and Demon's Souls Remake and both showed a generational leap over PS4.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Seeing MK go from a game that for 2 gens had a linear design and couldn't push a lot of characters on screen all at once to a game that now has a gigantic open world map with twice the amount certainly qualifies as a leap. Hyrule warriors doesn't look like it will choke for onceMetriod Prime and Zelda are now running 60fps with much higher fidelity You're sincerely trying to act like switch could run them to anywhere near the same degree when we know how it already runs the titles mentioned? We also aren't waiting a year out from launch to see a leap these are remasters or a fresh MK that is already showing more gains than we have seen basically since cube.Rinku_MemberMay 4, 20231,870Ephonk said:This is certainly a take:What switch 1 game looks like this (at 60fps, 1440p)?Click to expand...Click to shrink...All whilst existing in a world map probably bigger than Breath of the Wild.artsiMemberOct 26, 20173,331FinlandI would never expect Nintendo to mention the branding "DLSS" in their Switch 2 marketing even if the feature is supported.MarmokaMemberOct 27, 20176,300Nothing is confirmed and we are in the early stage of the console, it's not out yet. I suppose we will know more about DLSS and RT being present or not in the next months. However the hardware is more impressive than I thought, I didn't expect the screen to be able to handle 120HzCharcoalMemberNov 2, 20179,429DLSS performance is going to be a $10 add-on. Quality mode is $20.JetstreamRorschachOne Winged SlayerMemberDec 30, 20171,999Zaragoza, Spain.NVIDIA and Nintendo designed the SoC with Tensor Cores and Ray Tracing Cores. NVN2, the API Switch 2 uses, already supported DLSS in 2022.It is an option. Wait for final builds and launch to see games using it as long as devs want to.Star Wars seemed to use it by the little artifacting on the hair (that actually looks less fuzzy than the other versions).gabdegMemberOct 26, 20177,275Wouldn't Nintendo have to develop their own upscaler? I never really believed in them just using actual DLSS. More assumed the hardware is capable of that style of upscaling and that it would have to be developed first. Could be that Nintendo just didn't get there yet.Mr_F_SnowmanMemberOct 27, 20174,511mavericktopgun said:I'm not a trollClick to expand...Click to shrink...And yet you said "No game in the Direct looked MUCH better than a Switch 1 game" which is indeed very trollish. Curious. If you don't think Cyberpunk / FF7R look any better than a Switch 1 game then you might as well stop making any visual comparisons as apparently your eyes are faultyrubidiumMemberOct 25, 20171,673Render everything in low resolution so extra power can be used for more details, let DLSS take care of the rest, and the end result would be somewhat comparable to PS5.That is exactly what analysis like him kept chanting and some people might have fell for it.PazMemberNov 1, 20172,371Brisbane, AustraliaI've got no idea if it supports DLSS (no dev kits for me yet sadly) but I cannot believe people think these looks close to switch 1 visually.We just spent 6 months optimizing our game to run at 60fps 1080 on a switch 1, it's a very capable machine considering the time it came out and how much it cost and the form factor but it's a world apart from what we've seen of switch 2. Maybe people have been playing their ps5s too much and are mentally comparing those two more than the handheld it's actually replacing:

ScoopyMemberJun 12, 2024600ONLY ANNOUNCED FOR SWITCH 2View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLM1750OAjcLast edited by a moderator: Yesterday at 4:07 PM AcidoteMemberOct 26, 20175,711I can't believe a 3DS game remaster is going to be my launch date game.But it is.mrmickfranThe FallenOct 27, 201732,563GongagaYESSSSGyoruMemberOct 27, 20171,984- YouTubeEnjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.www.youtube.comRingabel my belovedSoulflarzMemberOct 25, 20173,624about. fucking. time.so happy it didnt leak.crimmy88MemberAug 7, 2023652The first 5 secs made me think that was princess garnet ngl lmaothe magical kitsuneMemberOct 27, 20175,082Well... it's not Bravely Default 3 but I will probably get it anyway (assuming no Switch 2 exclusivity). Maybe it opens up the way to Bravely Third.RutgerMemberOct 25, 201713,377Nice, glad to see it no longer stuck on 3DS.Blade30MemberOct 26, 20175,744NGL that opening almost looked like it was FF9 for a second.ChaserjoeyKeeper of the White MateriaMemberOct 27, 20179,702Surprised it's just the first game but really happy it's living on beyond 3DS DrHercouetMemberMay 25, 20181,781Francecrimmy88 said:The first 5 secs made me think that was princess garnet ngl lmaoClick to expand...Click to shrink...Oh, I am SO crossed.ConflictResolverMemberJan 1, 20243,834MidgarTime to finally get into Bravely Default (for real this time).cw_sasukeMemberOct 27, 201729,318Blade30 said:NGL that opening almost looked like it was FF9 for a second.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Thought the same lol.CruxistAvengerOct 27, 20174,649Happy for everyone who gets to play this for the first time without the messiest graphics of all time.Seriously, play this game!BebpoMemberFeb 4, 20185,618Cruxist said:Happy for everyone who gets to play this for the first time without the messiest graphics of all time.Seriously, play this game!Click to expand...Click to shrink...Graphics still looked terrible. 3DS emulator visuals in 2025.Still BD1 is awesome.JawmuncherCrisis DinoModeratorOct 25, 201743,936Ibis IslandBought EasyGyoruMemberOct 27, 20171,984edit: wrong threadBob WhiteMemberOct 27, 20174,268Flying Fairy, you say? :pmrtanookiMemberMay 9, 2024638I was really hoping for a remake of this instead of a simple remaster.B.K.MemberOct 31, 201718,371I don't think I could ever play through Bravely Default again. The second half of the game is miserable to play through. I don't know if I've ever seen a game that falls apart so badly in the second half. ZippedpinheadFallen GuardianMemberOct 25, 201711,609Just remember you have to be brave and default!Seriously though, When I buy my Switch 2 I'm getting this.SoulflarzMemberOct 25, 20173,624B.K. said:I don't think I could ever play through Bravely Default again. The second half of the game is miserable to play through. I don't know if I've ever seen a game that falls apart so badly in the second half.Click to expand...Click to shrink...It's like 4 hours of the game total, I literally did it between lunch and dinnerZippedpinheadFallen GuardianMemberOct 25, 201711,609B.K. said:I don't think I could ever play through Bravely Default again. The second half of the game is miserable to play through. I don't know if I've ever seen a game that falls apart so badly in the second half.Click to expand...Click to shrink...That section of the game is only as long or as short as you want it to be. I think I did everything I wanted to in about 30 minutes.Be Brave and default!MiveyMemberOct 25, 201720,254B.K. said:I don't think I could ever play through Bravely Default again. The second half of the game is miserable to play through. I don't know if I've ever seen a game that falls apart so badly in the second half.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Hmm, what part do you refer to? I don't recall having problems with any part of the game.,ShepherdMemberOct 25, 20171,059Im currently playing BD2 right now and this has to be the best RPG series around atm. Bring it on.MickagauMemberDec 11, 20182,382FranceConfused by this, it will come to switch 1 too right ?It seems super not demanding on a technical level, surprised SE chose to unveil it for the S2 direct and not the S1 one.diakyuMemberDec 15, 201818,654I had a passing thought that this should be brought over as it was stuck in the 3DS so this is great to see. Def getting when I get my switch 2YuSuzzuneMemberNov 21, 20185,586ItalyHope for a Steam port since we only got 2.B.K.MemberOct 31, 201718,371Mivey said:Hmm, what part do you refer to? I don't recall having problems with any part of the game.,Click to expand...Click to shrink...The second half of the game where you go to the alternate worlds and kill the same bosses a dozen different times. It's so tedious and boring. It completely ruins the game.ZippedpinheadFallen GuardianMemberOct 25, 201711,609B.K. said:The second half of the game where you go to the alternate worlds and kill the same bosses a dozen different times. It's so tedious and boring. It completely ruins the game.Click to expand...Click to shrink...but... you don't have to do that at all, the only thing you have to do is the crystals in each world. like I said, about 30 minutes MiveyMemberOct 25, 201720,254B.K. said:The second half of the game where you go to the alternate worlds and kill the same bosses a dozen different times. It's so tedious and boring. It completely ruins the game.Click to expand...Click to shrink...I think I only did that maybe once, and then I clocked that you only need to do the crystals. I think the game even points this out to you, if you do repeat things, but I might be imagining that. AlexFlame116Prophet of Truth - One Winged SlayerMemberNov 17, 201724,041UtahNooo they are using the JP subtitle for Bravely Default.The USA title is so much better especially when the easter egg happens.TheLetdownMemberOct 25, 20172,872YuSuzzune said:Hope for a Steam port since we only got 2.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Same, this is begging for the Steam Deck. I missed this game the first time around but it always stuck out to me, due to how well regarded it was. I've avoided playing the sequel just in case, so this would be a great kickstart to grabbing both of them.DelaneyMemberOct 25, 20173,765Soulflarz said:about. fucking. time.so happy it didnt leak.Click to expand...Click to shrink...Also surprised that not much people hinted at this, as it's been done for some time.penguindrumMemberFeb 10, 2019876Yeah I been wanting this bad.jungiusMemberSep 5, 20213,316this is a bad game from chapter 6 onward and if square enix only upscale and didn't fix the structure of the game this will stay niche and doomed forever.crazilloMemberApr 5, 20189,764It's great to see these 3DS gems get ported to modern hardware.mute Legend MemberOct 25, 201728,807Seems like something that should have happened a while agoKouriozanMemberOct 25, 201724,058Hope this has some good new content like a new job or two, I really liked the game so if it's 49 I'll get it day one.FaiyazMemberNov 30, 20176,324BangladeshExcellent, but what about Bravely Second :( NevermelticeOne Winged SlayerMemberFeb 10, 20191,657AlexFlame116 said:Nooo they are using the JP subtitle for Bravely Default.The USA title is so much better especially when the easter egg happens.Click to expand...Click to shrink...It works the same though idgi lol Flying Fairy.VertpinMemberOct 27, 20176,623oh my god I CANNOT WAIT DUDEmrmickfranThe FallenOct 27, 201732,563GongagaI hope BD2 gets a Switch 2 upgrade because it is roughMZZMemberNov 2, 20175,344Will finally finish this game maybe? Hope its coming out on other platforms too though.SoulflarzMemberOct 25, 20173,624Delaney said:Also surprised that not much people hinted at this, as it's been done for some time.Click to expand...Click to shrink...The real real secret that no one talks about - an unnamned dev studio had the contract 7 years ago and never actually finished it. It's wild we never got a BD port.BK0XShinra EmployeeMemberOct 28, 2017898Not sure how some of the 3DS features will transfer to the new version, but I'm getting it day one anyway! Loved it then, and I'm sure I'll love it now.DoguiMemberOct 28, 201710,579BrazilCurious if they will keep the second half as is.BasilZeroMemberOct 25, 201739,424OmniAcidote said:I can't believe a 3DS game remaster is going to be my launch date game.But it is.Click to expand...Click to shrink...same!!!Man GodMemberOct 25, 201739,997The GOAT.ap_2MemberJan 23, 20211,659This is the best one in the series so I'm modestly interested.

HeazyIT TechVerifiedOct 28, 20174,551London, UKFrom Nintendo UK site NippleVikingMemberMay 2, 20184,678Jesus. $800 AUD then?Doctor_ThomasMemberOct 27, 201711,182Ooof.raspberrymousseMemberMar 19, 20215,159Cheaper than I thoughtStitch AUMemberOct 29, 2017561Brisbane, AustraliaWhat the fuck, thats $880AU for the mario kart edition.Type VIIMemberOct 31, 20172,840I was expecting 425 so not too bad. At least we know when the preorders go live.CasuallyDressedMemberJan 13, 20201,481Eek.HelixMayor of Clown TownMemberJun 8, 201926,582i thought it was going to be 50 quid cheaperxendlessTeyvat TravelerMemberJan 23, 201913,394Nintendo UK store crashed already it's utterly fucked when preorders dropFevawevaMemberOct 30, 20177,382That is about what I expected to be quite honest. HutchieMemberOct 27, 20171,752LondonDecent but will wait n see how much cex sell em so can get rid of my remaining voucherCharlie0108MemberOct 29, 20174,568I have 460 set aside for it so ok for me but I was expecting it to be about 50 cheaper.discogsMemberOct 28, 2017493LondonWhen are UK preorders coming?xendlessTeyvat TravelerMemberJan 23, 201913,394Hutchie said:Decent but will wait n see how much cex sell em so can get rid of my remaining voucherClick to expand...Click to shrink...On the Switch 1 launch it was way above rrpdiscogs said:When are UK preorders coming?Click to expand...Click to shrink...The OP image dude....Swarming1182MemberJan 14, 2018507Hell yeah.HutchieMemberOct 27, 20171,752Londonxendless said:Only Switch 1 launch it was way above rrpClick to expand...Click to shrink...Looks like im waiting 6 monthsDECKARDCreator of WormsVerifiedNov 26, 20176,863UKWhat I was expecting.Now open the preorders someone!ItsBradazHDMemberNov 21, 201881935 quid extra for mario kart is crazy valueJ SnowMemberOct 25, 2017391About what I expectedHutchie said:Decent but will wait n see how much cex sell em so can get rid of my remaining voucherClick to expand...Click to shrink...I was thinking this but I went in today and they're selling second hand games more expensive than Argos a few doors down, I would really love to know what "algorithm" they use to calculate pricingToraThe Enlightened Wise OnesMemberJun 17, 20188,895Easily justifiable Ara63MemberNov 21, 20231,185Given the other pricing news, if you care about Mario Kart at all buying that UK bundle is likely the cheapest deal for anyone worldwide.LowrysMemberOct 25, 201714,423Londondiscogs said:When are UK preorders coming?Click to expand...Click to shrink...8 April. Gives all the scalpers and bots time to get ready ans vacuum them all up. Ridiculous. Just make them live now and let consumers have a chance.HutchieMemberOct 27, 20171,752LondonAnyone got software prices? Apparently mario kart is 90 physicalRaidenMemberNov 6, 20173,017Okay i'll take it. Do we have a official release date?AxeMemberOct 27, 20173,415United KingdomI honestly was bracing for worse pricing for us.geehepeaMemberAug 5, 2024255about what I expectedByron HinsonMemberNov 14, 20171,297UKIt'll be the cart pricing that's the killerSwarming1182MemberJan 14, 2018507Annoyed they chose to delay pre-orders. it just lets scalpers and bots grab them.The price is incredibly reasonable given the evident horsepower of this device, and especially with the Mario Kart World bundle, crazy good value.GowansModeratorOct 27, 20175,790North East, UKWhat about UK games prices?HelixMayor of Clown TownMemberJun 8, 201926,582ngl though i'm not keen on getting MK World, it's crazy not to get that bundle cuz MK is just expensive on its own lol harry the spyMemberOct 25, 20173,322Do we know where we will be able to preorder fromMutedpenguinMemberDec 5, 20171,341Obviously I'll get the Mario Kart bundle(if I can)...but I feel it would be a much easier sell to the masses, if it was 399 including the game.GovernWortProphet of TruthMemberFeb 20, 20201,062Gowans said:What about UK games prices?Click to expand...Click to shrink...View: https://imgur.com/yzDDQ4YBishop89What Are Ya' Selling?MemberOct 25, 201741,697Melbourne, AustraliaStitch AU said:What the fuck, thats $880AU for the mario kart edition.Click to expand...Click to shrink...More than a ps5, crazy.WillyMemberOct 27, 2017383I said 379 at the lowest previously so I wasn't far off. Honestly, not the worst price if you want Mario Kart World in the bundle. I think I'll be waiting for more first party games to come out though.edit - 75 physical games. Ouch.cursed beefMemberJan 3, 2021884so physical is just dead dead huh? nintendo said fuck familiesGowansModeratorOct 27, 20175,790North East, UKThank you, 75 seems wild esspecially in an age of cheap PC games and Game Pass.GovernWortProphet of TruthMemberFeb 20, 20201,062This is on the Nintendo UK site.Pro controller is 75 and the GC controller is 59IIFloodyIIMemberOct 26, 201727,061Was expecting 400 so not too bad ther. But they can absolutely fuck off with the 75 for games.HelixMayor of Clown TownMemberJun 8, 201926,58275 quid for flagship Nintendo games?.. geehepeaMemberAug 5, 2024255Prices for all accessories and software announced in the directEdit: also noticed this smallprint on the pagePre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 digital games, upgrade packs and amiibo will open on My Nintendo Store from 24/04.KoukalakaMemberOct 28, 201710,194ScotlandItsBradazHD said:35 quid extra for mario kart is crazy valueClick to expand...Click to shrink...Yeah, I expect the bundle will fly off the shelves considering it's a 30 savingSnarfingtonAvengerOct 25, 20173,115GovernWort said:This is on the Nintendo UK site.Pro controller is 75 and the GC controller is 59Click to expand...Click to shrink...Hmm I think I qualify but will have to check on the emails, wonder where I can do that? Hope it's not some rando newsletterGokouDMemberOct 30, 20171,292Game prices could be worse really, given the euro/dollar prices. And that's from the Nintendo store, you can probably knock 10 off at Amazon or Smyths.shadowman16MemberOct 25, 201740,375Not super happy about the prices... but Im a fool and will be getting DK and MK for sure... ANd Yakuza and SF...jazzfunkgreatsMemberOct 7, 2019301I fit the criteria for the invitation thing on playtime and subscription length but I've only just turned on newsletters now, so I'm not expecting much. I knew I should have just embraced the spamJayCB64MemberOct 25, 201711,341WalesHonestly I thought it would be a little worse lolIDreamOfHimeMemberOct 27, 201716,155I don't actually mind that price, especially the Mario Kart bundle price.Hoping to buy from Amazon....kept my Xmas gift vouchers for this.My plan this gen is digital only, I don't have the space for boxes anymore.Ocarina_117MemberOct 26, 20179,846Not as angry as others with this pricing to be honest. I get a tonne of time out of Nintendo games and their first party releases are spaced out nicely.LewiePMemberOct 26, 201719,475I was expecting 399 for the system to saved a cool 4.