zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,427 Montreal I'm playing AC Origins and really enjoying it. I'm not the biggest AC fan and only played a few of the old ones. Origins is my first of the rpg ones and I'm blown away at how well done the environment is. Despite being a dessert/sand theme, it's incredibly varied. I dare say it's the most varied open world game I have ever played, in terms of environment. Gameplay is nothing ground breaking but that's another topic. This got me thinking, we need a remake of the Ezio Trilogy but one big game just like modern ones. Brotherhood's locations are very similar to 2's, so can easily be fused. Revelations can be tricky as it has locations that are not Italy but I think they can manage that into separate missions. I would really love to revisit that Trilogy with modern tech and I am convinced they can design a breathtaking world. I'm not really interested in a piece meal remake. Thoughts?  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,624 Yes we do, the controls didn't aged well   MarshallLaw Member Oct 19, 2023 1,329 A remake of that entire trilogy would be an instant buy for me. AC2 has not been topped to this day   Blackleg-sanji1 Member Oct 25, 2017 58,780 I wanna replay brotherhood so bad so I would greatly welcome this   Ravelle Member Oct 31, 2017 20,044 Blackleg-sanji1 said: I wanna replay brotherhood so bad so I would greatly welcome this Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh man, same! Even if it's just Brotherhood I would be happy but 2 needs some love too. That in my eyes is the real Assassins Creed.  Atom Member Jul 25, 2021 15,100 I don't trust Ubisoft to handle it well tbh Let's see how BF turns out at least.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,466 I feel like the pacing for a remake like that would be even worse than Ubisoft Game pacing usually is.   SilverArrow20XX Member Oct 25, 2017 6,970 Just remake the whole Desmond era but not fuck it up this time.   cursed knowledge Member Mar 15, 2019 3,543 Brazil i played through the trilogy again in my PS5 last year and while i loved it, traversing through the cities in the horse is... not the best experience if not a remake, a remaster would be welcome for sure  nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,582 if it plays like mirage they can keep that shit.   Blackleg-sanji1 Member Oct 25, 2017 58,780 Ravelle said: Oh man, same! Even if it's just Brotherhood I would be happy but 2 needs some love too. That in my eyes is the real Assassins Creed. Click to expand... Click to shrink... 2& brotherhood remain my favorites to this day   senj Member Nov 6, 2017 8,542 We definitely need a remake that comes to PC. The PS4/Xbox remaster never got ported, and the original ports are absolutely dire.  The Unsent Member Oct 25, 2017 22,130 I don't like synchronization barriers in those old games that sectioned the game up, they didn't feel like open worlds to me. I think Revelations got rid of the barriers though.   OP OP zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,427 Montreal PlanetSmasher said: I feel like the pacing for a remake like that would be even worse than Ubisoft Game pacing usually is. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Why? The pacing in Origins is not that bad. you can decide to only do main quest anytime you want and the side activities are much better than they used to be. Not amazing but at least they parted ways with the stupid tailing missions   oni-link tag reference no one gets Member Oct 25, 2017 17,257 UK I replayed them trilogy back in 2021 on PS4 and tbh they're still great now I'd rather we get more new games in the series or even some new IP alongside new AC games, vs remaking them I'd like to see the PS4 versions at least get a 4k 60 patch though, which might happen as Ubi has gone back and patched some of it's other PS4 era games recently (AC Syndicate, FC New Dawn)  Logan Member Oct 25, 2017 411 Remake the Ezio saga into one big game. Those 50-80 hours would be way better than anything they made in these Witcher 3 wannabes.   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,466 zoodoo said: Why? The pacing in Origins is not that bad. you can decide to only do main quest anytime you want and the side activities are much better than they used to be. Not amazing but at least they parted ways with the stupid tailing missions Click to expand... Click to shrink... Trying to squeeze three complete stories together into one game is just extremely difficult. Especially when none of Ezio's games feed into each other narratively, they're all isolated incidents in his life stretched across several decades.  R3ndezvous Member Dec 17, 2024 1,123 A better connectivity in AC2 -> Brotherhood -> Revelations would work quite well. Moreover, the jumps that AC2 makes are quite haphazard, like suddenly it's a few months later, so playing the Ezio Trilogy I forgot how poor that aspect was. The cliffhanger endings were quite " OH SHIT" in AC2 & Brotherhood and because of the short gaps between the game releases they really hyped you up. Moreover, there were certain quests that could use some rework and especially the DLC's, the disappearance of Da Vinci was great, but the other ones weren't and felt mostly filler. Given how beloved these games were, I think a remake would do really well, but it's also a project that might be too big to revisit? 🤔 . I wish they had a stronger refocus for the modern story again to pull the franchise together, which they tried.... 😓 .  dex3108 Member Oct 26, 2017 24,499 That would mean that Ubisoft would need to actually do justice to modern day AC and that is not what they want to do.   Mass Effect One Winged Slayer Member Oct 31, 2017 19,013 Ubisoft would fuck it up probably.   terrible1fi Member Jun 4, 2019 1,314 Yes we do but the controls have not aged well. New visuals plus modern controls from the modern ac games would be amazing   Zerpette Member Jun 23, 2023 2,068 oni-link said: I'd like to see the PS4 versions at least get a 4k 60 patch though, which might happen as Ubi has gone back and patched some of it's other PS4 era games recently (AC Syndicate, FC New Dawn) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, a 4K 60 patch would be sufficient. The Ezio collection is pretty decent on Series X with FPS boost, but a proper patch would be better and obviously helpful for PlayStation. I think there's a pretty good chance that Unity and the Ezio collection will get something like the Syndicate / New Dawn patches.   Mansa Mufasa Member Jun 17, 2019 1,538 Toronto im playing through AC2 again on Switch and man. I really miss the conspiracy theory angle the old AC games used to take. Getting the truth video solving the puzzle seeing the "influence" the pieces of eden had throughout history. I really miss that.   DJwest Member Oct 26, 2017 7,824 Nah I'm good   thepenguin55 Member Oct 28, 2017 13,930 Rosebud said: Yes we do, the controls didn't aged well Click to expand... Click to shrink... Playing Shadows, I miss the old controls. Enjoying Shadows but I actually found the old controls more intuitive even if the new controls are more in line with other modern games. To be real, I think accidentally grabbing things or climbing up things you didn't mean to was less a byproduct of the controls and more a byproduct of the old tech. That said, I feel like I run up more wrong shit and am grabbing more shit I didn't mean to in Shadows then I ever remember doing in the old AC games so I don't think a change in controls has solved that by a long shot. Maybe it's just some of the tight corridors in this game but I feel like awkward parkour moments are happening all the time to me in Shadows.   oni-link tag reference no one gets Member Oct 25, 2017 17,257 UK Zerpette said: Yes, a 4K 60 patch would be sufficient. The Ezio collection is pretty decent on Series X with FPS boost, but a proper patch would be better and obviously helpful for PlayStation. I think there's a pretty good chance that Unity and the Ezio collection will get something like the Syndicate / New Dawn patches. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I hope so, that and FC Blood Dragon (and FC3 as well actually) would all be really welcomed, and Ubisoft seem to be one of the only publishers bothering to go back on do this to all their games  The Unsent Member Oct 25, 2017 22,130 Logan said: Remake the Ezio saga into one big game. Those 50-80 hours would be way better than anything they made in these Witcher 3 wannabes. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They're not really like Witcher 3 though, that game doesn't have stealth or climbing. The newer ACs have dialogue options, armour levels, romance options, but they're more general RPG mechanics before Witcher 3 came out.   Zaied Member Oct 27, 2017 5,015 I'd much rather see them remake AC1 first, specifically with the two spinoffs incorporated. Altaïr is one of their best characters and having huge parts of his story tucked away in two portable spinoffs on DS and PSP really did him a disservice, despite Revelations giving him a big role. I'd like to see them take AC1, Altaïr's Chronicles, and Bloodlines and roll them into one cohesive Third Crusade remake.   Nameless Hero Member Oct 25, 2017 23,231 I voted for hd 2d because why not   Rats Member Oct 25, 2017 8,638 Zaied said: I'd much rather see them remake AC1 first, specifically with the two spinoffs incorporated. Altaïr is one of their best characters and having huge parts of his story tucked away in two portable spinoffs on DS and PSP really did him a disservice, despite Revelations giving him a big role. I'd like to see them take AC1, Altaïr's Chronicles, and Bloodlines and roll them into one cohesive Third Crusade remake. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is a much better idea than milking the Ezio games any more than they already have.  OP OP zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,427 Montreal Zaied said: I'd much rather see them remake AC1 first, specifically with the two spinoffs incorporated. Altaïr is one of their best characters and having huge parts of his story tucked away in two portable spinoffs on DS and PSP really did him a disservice, despite Revelations giving him a big role. I'd like to see them take AC1, Altaïr's Chronicles, and Bloodlines and roll them into one cohesive Third Crusade remake. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's not a bad idea and I miss some of the old AC mechanics like crowd blending, pick pocket.   Last edited: Today at 10:50 AM thepenguin55 Member Oct 28, 2017 13,930 Mansa Mufasa said: im playing through AC2 again on Switch and man. I really miss the conspiracy theory angle the old AC games used to take. Getting the truth video solving the puzzle seeing the "influence" the pieces of eden had throughout history. I really miss that. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, a shame the pay off to all of that was a big wet fart. Also, after AC1 the story around Desmond and his crew of assassin's just sputtered into mostly nonsense dumb territory. For them to get serious about modern day stuff again and have it actually hit for many people would require Ubisoft taking a much bigger swing than I think they're capable of right now.   OP OP zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,427 Montreal Rats said: This is a much better idea than milking the Ezio games any more than they already have. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't think the milked the Ezio games. They just did a Trilogy bundle. Unless you count trying to recapture the same vibe in Unity and the likes as milking.   Nintendo Prophet of Regret Member Oct 27, 2017 13,919 Rats said: This is a much better idea than milking the Ezio games any more than they already have. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What have they done with the Ezio games other than release the 3-pack on consoles only?  Huey Member Oct 27, 2017 15,615 I find the originals still play great, I've been slowly working my way through them on steam deck. I just picked up revelations recently - never played it before - and am impressed by the visual jump. Also Istanbul is a great setting.   BasilZero Member Oct 25, 2017 39,659 Omni Need a remake on the first one (Altair game) for sure but I would like three separate remakes for each of these Just introduce more side stuff and collectibles  Rats Member Oct 25, 2017 8,638 zoodoo said: I don't think the milked the Ezio games. They just did a Trilogy bundle. Unless you count trying to recapture the same vibe in Unity and the likes as milking. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nintendo said: What have they done with the Ezio games other than release the 3-pack on consoles only? Click to expand... Click to shrink... "Milking" is probably a tad harsh. But those games play great already and are very easy to go back to (IMO). As a fan of the series since the first one it'd be cool if they went back to Altair's story and did it right this time.  R3ndezvous Member Dec 17, 2024 1,123 AC1 remake would be interesting and with the whole Mirage DLC that's supposed to happen, it could lead back into AC1, especially as it's closer in timeline compared to other entries. BasilZero said: Just introduce more side stuff and collectibles Click to expand... Click to shrink... Are you the CEO kid haha :p The wild story behind why the first Assassin's Creed has side missions The first Assassin's Creed game only had side missions because "the CEO's kid played it". www.eurogamer.net   SofNascimento cursed Member Oct 28, 2017 24,693 São Paulo - Brazil Yes just becuase that might be the only way to get Rome again.   Walker_Boh Member Oct 25, 2017 2,320 Boise, Idaho I'd be down for a remake, especially one that adds the climb anywhere mechanic. The map in Shadows is a pain in the ass to traverse compared to the other RPG games with it gone.   FantasticToma Member Sep 21, 2024 2,005 Germany What we need is Assassin's Creed become good again, forget about trying to be a RPG, and go back to Unity, the best and last great entry in the series. Then write an exciting present-day story, et voila. But realistically: The Ezio-games are perfectly playable, they still look good on PC. No need to waste resources.  Bonfires Down Member Nov 2, 2017 3,252 HD-2D would actually be so cute with chibi Ezio backstabbing fools left and right.   MarcelloF "This guy are sick" Member Dec 9, 2020 9,483 You all really need to stop with the "Remake multiple games into one" thing. It's a bad idea. Remakes of the trilogy would be cool, I guess. I just want a remaster of 1 that includes Bloodlines like 3 did with Liberation. 1's the only game not playable on PS5.  OP OP zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,427 Montreal Walker_Boh said: I'd be down for a remake, especially one that adds the climb anywhere mechanic. The map in Shadows is a pain in the ass to traverse compared to the other RPG games with it gone. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What's gone in Shadows? Naoe can't climb everywhere?   Walker_Boh Member Oct 25, 2017 2,320 Boise, Idaho zoodoo said: What's gone in Shadows? Naoe can't climb everywhere? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah. It's not as bad as in the original games since she has a grappling hook but traversing in the countryside is an exercise in frustration.   OP OP zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,427 Montreal Walker_Boh said: Yeah. It's not as bad as in the original games since she has a grappling hook but traversing in the countryside is an exercise in frustration. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That sucks This reminds me of the meme about Spiderman only being able to exists in few big cities in the world  ShinyCoin Member Oct 15, 2020 702 We actually need a Unity remake. Not much regarding the visuals, but for the gameplay   BasilZero Member Oct 25, 2017 39,659 Omni R3ndezvous said: AC1 remake would be interesting and with the whole Mirage DLC that's supposed to happen, it could lead back into AC1, especially as it's closer in timeline compared to other entries. Are you the CEO kid haha :p The wild story behind why the first Assassin's Creed has side missions The first Assassin's Creed game only had side missions because "the CEO's kid played it". www.eurogamer.net Click to expand... Click to shrink... 🤣 Well I wouldn't mind them adding more to the story as long as it doesn't change too much of the story  Zebesian-X Member Dec 3, 2018 24,892 This would be a fun idea. Insanely ambitious and expensive, but the games are fairly short by modern AC standards I just don't want them to cut the modern day stuff. Start with an AC1 remake, preserve Desmond's story, and I'm all in for a massive Ezio game  Clippy Member Feb 11, 2022 3,555 I'd be down for any sort of remaster. Separate, alltogether, whatever, just give it to me and I'll buy it.  

--R Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,326 Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 27,738 Fast RMX was a fantastic launch game for Switch, can't wait to play this whenever I get a Switch 2.   Dest Has seen more 10s than EA ever will Coward Jun 4, 2018 15,879 Work i want this more than i want mario kart tbh   Regiruler Member Oct 28, 2017 13,227 United States The fusion mechanic seems whatever but I'm still very excited for this.   Dal Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 18, 2024 2,102 Surprisingly cheap, might actually consider picking this up just for the visual fidelity   vestan #REFANTAZIO SWEEP Member Dec 28, 2017 27,465   Liam Allen-Miller Member Nov 2, 2017 7,887 Shibuya I'd be interested in preordering it but I'm a bit concerned that by the time I can actually get a Switch 2 it'll already have gone on sale lol. :////   JetstreamRorschach One Winged Slayer Member Dec 30, 2017 2,056 Zaragoza, Spain. Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion and Arcade Classics Ridge Racer day 1. Switch 2 will continue the tradition of handheld arcade racers. What I'd do for a new Ridge Racer or Ridge Racers 2 and Ridge Racer 7 ports. Here's hoping Wipeout and Forza Horizon end up on the system too.  Peru Member Oct 26, 2017 6,775 Thank you Shin'en for your launch graphical showcase.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,842 Easiest Day 1 purchase ever. MK Wild, F-Zero GX and Fast Fusion at launch is gonna be fun lol. JetstreamRorschach said: Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion and Arcade Classics Ridge Racer day 1. Switch 2 will continue the tradition of handheld arcade racers. What I'd do for a new Ridge Racer or Ridge Racers 2 and Ridge Racer 7 ports. Here's hoping Wipeout and Forza Horizon end up on the system too. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Do we know the price of Ridge Racer or the Arcade Classic 2 Lineup in general ?  Bushido Senior Game Designer Verified Feb 6, 2018 1,920 Absolutely going to pick this up on day one. Regiruler said: The fusion mechanic seems whatever but I'm still very excited for this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... JUMP BUTTON! ;)   ghostcrew The Shrouded Ghost Administrator Oct 27, 2017 31,682 JetstreamRorschach said: Mario Kart World, Fast Fusion and Arcade Classics Ridge Racer day 1. Switch 2 will continue the tradition of handheld arcade racers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You forgetting Seriously though, my Switch 2 is going to be a racing game beast on day one. Can't WAIT for Arcade Ridge Racer.  JetstreamRorschach One Winged Slayer Member Dec 30, 2017 2,056 Zaragoza, Spain. ghostcrew said: You forgetting Click to expand... Click to shrink... Literally, I forgot. Damn, this launch is amazing   Kazooie Member Jul 17, 2019 6,069 That's a refreshingly fair pricing, considering the Switch 2 line up.   shodgson8 Shinra Employee Member Aug 22, 2018 5,164 Knowing Shin'en wizardry it will probably be running at 4K60.  

Earvin Infinity Member Oct 27, 2017 7,368 Latest GeForce Drivers with HotFix: Download NVIDIA GeForce Graphics Drivers (576.15 Hotfix) | TechPowerUp Latest AMD Radeon Drivers: Download AMD Radeon Graphics Drivers (25.4.1 Beta) | TechPowerUp Powered by Unreal Engine 5: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/developer-interviews/inside-the-development-journey-of-clair-obscur-expedition-33   P40L0 Member Jun 12, 2018 9,430 Italy TheBathman Member Jan 3, 2025 80 Unreal Engine 5 makes me nervous but the reviews have been spectacular   tapdancingFreak Member Dec 12, 2017 4,577 Charlotte, NC cannot wait!   Megustaelmate Member Sep 4, 2022 1,161 Man, 4am unlock means i cant play till tomorrow night ..whatever happened to midnight launches   flyinj Member Oct 25, 2017 11,853 Hoping that the Gamepass version is at feature parity with other storefronts   moqz Member Jan 28, 2025 385 I will cope with UE5 stutters for this game   Firima Member Oct 27, 2017 4,794 flyinj said: Hoping that the Gamepass version is at feature parity with other storefronts Click to expand... Click to shrink... meanwhile, I'll be happy if it runs fine without me having to leave my 566.36 Geforce drivers   Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,622 Midwest TheBathman said: Unreal Engine 5 makes me nervous but the reviews have been spectacular Click to expand... Click to shrink... Reviews generally never mention performance other than maybe a sentence here and there. I think it should factor into the score but nope.  EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,921 Wallace said: Reviews generally never mention performance other than maybe a sentence here and there. I think it should factor into the score but nope. Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah but that assumes those that play on pc have a pc that can actually run it. unless its universally bad. wasn't there a game that got reviewed bad because of that? i feel like there was one years ago   Jeff ChickenDig Member Oct 25, 2017 11,921 hard to find much pc footage performance at all. There is a chapters for settings in this video and there are different upscaler options (don't seem to offer framegen tho). Seems like you can do 45fps with some drops which is nice. 30 lock is easy. Much better performance than many graphically pretty games these days on steam deck.  FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,294 Tokyo Will be running this tonight on my rig. Looking at recommended setting, I should easily be able to hit 60fps at 1440p.   TheBathman Member Jan 3, 2025 80 Wallace said: Reviews generally never mention performance other than maybe a sentence here and there. I think it should factor into the score but nope. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I preordered it. We shall see!   SixelAlexiS Member Oct 27, 2017 9,067 Italy Jeff ChickenDig said: Much better performance than many graphically pretty games these days on steam deck. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's unwatchable, looks at it... especially at 5:30 minutes mark, there are no graphics there, it looks broken.   Friendly Bear Member Jan 11, 2019 3,507 I Don’t Care Where (Just Far) IGN put up a 40 minute gameplay video of it running at 4K on a 4090. It seemed smooth from the bits I watched. Two video reviews (one using a 3080, one using a 3080 Ti) said that it's mostly very smooth with just a couple areas that have slight stutters. If that's true, I'm totally cool with that.  Mupod Member Oct 25, 2017 6,781 Would be great news if it runs well. I guess I'm feeling trepidation specifically because one of my favourite games last year (Mechwarrior 5 Clans) was similarly a UE5 game made by a smaller-sized team. And it ran like dog shit, lol   TheBathman Member Jan 3, 2025 80 Yes like at the end of the day a stutter here or there is fine, just don't give me those giant 2 second shader comp stutters as like a spell goes off.   JohnnyToonami Member Dec 16, 2018 6,179 Earth Mupod said: Would be great news if it runs well. I guess I'm feeling trepidation specifically because one of my favourite games last year (Mechwarrior 5 Clans) was similarly a UE5 game made by a smaller-sized team. And it ran like dog shit, lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... This was so bad at times that I had to refund it and this was a month ago. Thought they'd had patched it up by then but nope.   Mathis Member Feb 11, 2025 40 Just got 24h2 on my laptop so hope its gunna run well. Just 4.5 more hours now!   diggler41 Member Oct 27, 2017 922 Kansas City Hello PC people. I have a 2 year old gaming laptop I may want to play this on. It has a Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070ti laptop GPU, 16gb ram, 12th gen Intel core i7. Would I be able to?   HoodedSoldier Member Sep 29, 2018 2,539 diggler41 said: Hello PC people. I have a 2 year old gaming laptop I may want to play this on. It has a Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070ti laptop GPU, 16gb ram, 12th gen Intel core i7. Would I be able to? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes   fr0st Member Oct 28, 2017 5,035 Watching this thread to see how it goes and maybe even buy the game   diggler41 Member Oct 27, 2017 922 Kansas City HoodedSoldier said: Well ok. I'm in. Green man has it fairly cheap   werezompire Zeboyd Games Verified Oct 26, 2017 14,920 How are load times?   ZeoVGM Member Oct 25, 2017 84,182 Providence, RI SixelAlexiS said: It's unwatchable, looks at it... especially at 5:30 minutes mark, there are no graphics there, it looks broken. Click to expand... Click to shrink... what in the world are you talking about  Kenzodielocke Member Oct 25, 2017 13,833 Should be out now. Looking forward to reading impressions.   Sangral Powered by Friendship™ Member Feb 17, 2022 8,379 No HDR on PC as it seems? Also doesn't seem to support Frame Generation. Only normal DLSS. Not too many graphic settings but also no RT or Lumen bullshit, so that could help. Let's see how it runs, trying to set up DLSS 4 immediately.  nikasun :D Member Oct 30, 2017 3,393 Is there a motion blur toggle in the PC version?   Mauricio_Magus Member Oct 25, 2017 15,607 Mortismal mentioned that he had a bunch of crashes while playing, I hope that was just his rig or maybe because it didn't include a day 1 patch or something.   Sgs2008 Member Mar 25, 2019 1,031 Dlaa looks worse than dlss quality for some reason to me   Thrashlist Member Sep 1, 2024 109 Well, can't get the game running so there's that performance. Right around the time I get to the loading screen about Autosave and Controller info the game has crashed some 10 times now :)   Rikucrafter Chicken Chaser Member Oct 28, 2017 947 Australia I also am getting a full crash to desktop on the autosave screen   Sgs2008 Member Mar 25, 2019 1,031 nikasun :D said: Is there a motion blur toggle in the PC version? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes   Poimandres Member Oct 26, 2017 7,812 Thrashlist said: Well, can't get the game running so there's that performance. Right around the time I get to the loading screen about Autosave and Controller info the game has crashed some 10 times now :) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Are you over 33? If so the game will crash because you are already dead.  Sangral Powered by Friendship™ Member Feb 17, 2022 8,379 Ok, something is messed up on PC MASSIVELY! RTX 4090, 7800X3D. Everything is set to epic, game at 4K resolution, DLSS set to DLAA cause it auto set that so I thought let's test this. First. Cutscenes are 30fps locked with bad frame pacing and look super blurry. But then in-game. Oh boy. What on earth? It is set to 4K, with DLAA, every setting confirms that, but in-game the game looks like it's getting upscaled from like 480p or some shit with massively artificial oversharpen effects. Plus horrible performance. What's going on?   KRT Member Aug 7, 2020 237 Sangral said: But then in-game. Oh boy. What on earth? It is set to 4K, with DLAA, every setting confirms that, but in-game the game looks like it's getting upscaled from like 480p or some shit with massively artificial oversharpen effects. Plus horrible performance. What's going on? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I actually came to this thread to see if my eyes decieve me or theres an actual problem lol. Everything looks low res.   Kami Member Jul 13, 2020 3,429 Game keeps crashing for me on boot-up. Not sure why! I tried reinstalling, moving to a different drive, verified files multiple times, everything. Edit: Steam version  Last edited: Today at 3:36 AM Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,638 could DLAA just be broken?   DeepChord Member Jan 21, 2018 1,308 jfc christ that image quality is atrocious. what is up with the hair?? 70-80fps in the prologue with DLSS Balanced on a 4090. Modern gaming just isn't for me I guess.  Kami Member Jul 13, 2020 3,429 Thrashlist said: Well, can't get the game running so there's that performance. Right around the time I get to the loading screen about Autosave and Controller info the game has crashed some 10 times now :) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Same here  Sgs2008 Member Mar 25, 2019 1,031 Linus815 said: could DLAA just be broken? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think it is dlss quality looks better to me   Thrashlist Member Sep 1, 2024 109 Poimandres said: Are you over 33? If so the game will crash because you are already dead. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ah, yes! Anyways, the game does look like vomit on the screenshots above :) Now the game started to crash on other sections of the start splashes. Disabled cloud save on Steam, but no effect. Sangral said: What's going on? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Can't wait to see how this runs on my 4090 i12900  Raigor Member May 14, 2020 16,017 Now more than ever, i'll keep on hating on UE5, first Oblivion and now this game performing like absolute garbage. Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk  Eevea Member Sep 23, 2022 263 Sangral said: Ok, something is messed up on PC MASSIVELY! RTX 4090, 7800X3D. Everything is set to epic, game at 4K resolution, DLSS set to DLAA cause it auto set that so I thought let's test this. First. Cutscenes are 30fps locked with bad frame pacing and look super blurry. But then in-game. Oh boy. What on earth? It is set to 4K, with DLAA, every setting confirms that, but in-game the game looks like it's getting upscaled from like 480p or some shit with massively artificial oversharpen effects. Plus horrible performance. What's going on? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's because the prerendered cutscene videos are matching to resolution you're upscaling from. I heard a reviewer complaint about this.   Sgs2008 Member Mar 25, 2019 1,031 Tried forcing dlss 4 didn't make much difference might be very minorly sharper but hard to tell   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,638 Eevea said: It's because the prerendered cutscenes are matching to resolution you're upscaling from. I heard a reviewer complaint about this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah but DLAA should be native. which it clearly isnt unfortunately  KraftyKrankins Member Oct 25, 2017 3,170 Sangral said: Ok, something is messed up on PC MASSIVELY! RTX 4090, 7800X3D. Everything is set to epic, game at 4K resolution, DLSS set to DLAA cause it auto set that so I thought let's test this. First. Cutscenes are 30fps locked with bad frame pacing and look super blurry. But then in-game. Oh boy. What on earth? It is set to 4K, with DLAA, every setting confirms that, but in-game the game looks like it's getting upscaled from like 480p or some shit with massively artificial oversharpen effects. Plus horrible performance. What's going on? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Pretty sure it's just a shitton of postprocessing effects. It looks literally the same for me, down to the texture of the image itself and I'm at a lower resolution   OP OP Earvin Infinity Member Oct 27, 2017 7,368 Honestly, reviewers need to start slamming these games HARD for terrible PC optimization and performance. Not just include a bullet point as a con and stating "occasional, bugs, stutters and crashes". And factor that into the review score as well, but can be updated if performance improves.  Sangral Powered by Friendship™ Member Feb 17, 2022 8,379 Linus815 said: could DLAA just be broken? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Set it down to DLSS Quality now and it looks a little bit better, but still oversharpen as fuck and still gives the vibes of being upscaled from way too low. Gives me some very early FSR vibes. Also performance is still shit on DLSS Quality with RTX 4090 and there is no Frame Generation. So PC performance is basically toast. Look at the DLSS registry text at the bottom left, it shouldn't look that low res/artificially upscaled. If anything that one should be crystal clear 4K. Barely 60fps while normal running..... Jesus.... Game Pass by the way.  Killthee Member Oct 25, 2017 4,241 Game also crashing for me after the benchmark screen. This stinks.  

Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,260 Melbourne, Australia Big W go live at 10am https://www.bigw.com.au/nintendo-switch-2 Eb Games https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/nintendo-switch/325321-nintendo-switch-2-console  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,399 Ibis Island Damn, how come they keep to pre-order now?   Okabe Is Sometimes A Good Bean Member Aug 24, 2018 22,198   OP OP Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,260 Melbourne, Australia Jawmuncher said: Damn, how come they keep to pre-order now? Click to expand... Click to shrink...   Alvis Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 25, 2017 12,053 EU That's 405€. Isn't that surprisingly cheap?   ShadowAUS Member Feb 20, 2019 2,705 Australia Alvis said: That's 405€. Isn't that surprisingly cheap? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah it came in cheaper than I and... really anyone I know was expecting. It's under the US > AUD conversion even. Usually Australia get's an added Australia tax on top of the US RRP.   RockyBalboa_ Member Apr 28, 2018 1,682 I got the original Switch with MK 8 at a cheaper price vs the original retail price ($339 from a big w store). But we live in more expensive times today where retailers rarely offer those kinds of discounts. I'm interested in the new system but may not buy it at launch.  cmdrshepard The Fallen Oct 30, 2017 1,596 I was on the fence as to whether I would upgrade at launch or later but considering this seems to be launching here under US RRP after conversion and my worry is the RRP may go up in the future (like the PS5) rather than down, I have happily placed my preorder   eZipsis The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,900 Melbourne, Australia I didn't expect them to be live this morning, I've preordered the Mario Kart World bundle and a Pro Controller. I'm going to trade in my Series X to EB to get a decent chunk off it.  Nimbat1003 Member Nov 14, 2021 1,937 yeah don't know specific's but nintendo and switch is something we often get good conversions on we are close(er) to japan also noting those prices are tax included since thats how we do it. got my order in at eb games curious to see how long it take to sell out. and ditto on the fears about price its never gonna get cheaper anyway and i can sell a couple switch games and my switch for probably half the cost (the ebgames trade in deal looks rough 200 off for the switch and 4 games hell most switch games u can easily sell for 40-50 alone)  ShadowAUS Member Feb 20, 2019 2,705 Australia eZipsis said: I didn't expect them to be live this morning, I've preordered the Mario Kart World bundle and a Pro Controller. I'm going to trade in my Series X to EB to get a decent chunk off it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Tempted to trade my PS5 as it gets turned on about once every two or three years. But Yotei man, I can't with Yotei coming out. I may even cop a pro for it because I'm an absolute rube.   mentok15 Member Dec 20, 2017 9,135 Australia ShadowAUS said: Yeah it came in cheaper than I and... really anyone I know was expecting. It's under the US > AUD conversion even. Usually Australia get's an added Australia tax on top of the US RRP. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah when I saw the the price in other currencies I was expecting more than this. Cheaper than in the US and this includes GST, and a lot cheaper than in Europe. Now if I should preorder or not, nothing at launch really grabs me other than the thought of playing the probable switch 2 version of MP4  Aarglefarg Member Oct 27, 2017 4,184 Games going from $70 to $114 is a lot. I expected more like $90 since that's what Tears of the Kingdom was. I pre-ordered the bundle from JB, to support Amazon less where I can. But JB takes the money out on a pre-order right away which I didn't expect.  eZipsis The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,900 Melbourne, Australia ShadowAUS said: Tempted to trade my PS5 as it gets turned on about once every two or three years. But Yotei man, I can't with Yotei coming out. I may even cop a pro for it because I'm an absolute rube. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yup same, I was tempted to trade my PS5 as well, even though I pretty much only use it for media apps, Yotei is a game I really want to play and I don't know how long it will be before it comes to PC. My regular Switch I'm going to give to my son.  NippleViking Member May 2, 2018 4,694 Ordered. System is cheaper than I expected. $110 for games is steep but standard now I spose.  Poimandres Member Oct 26, 2017 7,812 Really quite good pricing on the console relative to other countries. The game pricing largely kills my enthusiasm though (not that I've ever really paid RRP in the past for any games) If there were better trade deals for Switch 1 I'd be tempted to jump on it.  Abicus Member Oct 25, 2017 494 Australia On the $110 game price front, doesn't Big W normally undercut EB etc by retailing a bit cheaper?   Poimandres Member Oct 26, 2017 7,812 Abicus said: On the $110 game price front, doesn't Big W normally undercut EB etc by retailing a bit cheaper? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Retail price wars for games are pretty decent here. Big W can go cheap often, and Amazon deals are a regular occurrence. I'm worried about Big W staying in the physical games space (but if anyone is safe from this it's Nintendo) and even EB Games I can't see carrying on for much longer. It could very well be that physical games become harder to get so prices stay high.  Mario_Bones Member Oct 31, 2017 3,752 Australia Stayed up til 3:30am to get a preorder only for them to still be in stock in the morning 🫠 At least it means people won't have to fight scalpers for them! And I was fully expecting EB to timegate them or outright lock them behind their crappy new subscription The console price isn't too bad but whew, those game and controller prices 😬  Gouda Member Oct 25, 2017 46 Waikato, New Zealand New Zealand prices/preorders are up at EB: https://www.ebgames.co.nz/nintendo-switch $799.95NZD/$869.95NZD. With the current exchange rate it's actually a bit cheaper than the US price. Mario Kart World is $129.95NZD while the other Nintendo published titles are $119.95NZD. So it appears to be inline with the MSRP for PS5/Xbox games here.  Kapryov "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 11,179 Australia Do we expect this to sell out quickly once the rest of the country wakes up? I'm on the fence, announced games not that interesting and I was kinda hoping for more confirmation on how BC games would run on it. edit: meh fine, preordered  Last edited: Apr 2, 2025 mccauslander Member Jun 2, 2019 343 Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Gahhhh it looks dope (DANKEY KANG!) but that price is soooo expenny (though I get it because tariffs)   Mechaplum Enlightened Member Oct 26, 2017 21,175 JP That's about on par with the "international ver" here in Japan. Not bad I guess. Hope Aus and Japan do more business together.  T0kenAussie Member Jan 15, 2020 5,870 I'm seriously considering buying one because that party share thing looks good for my house with 2 switch lites. Means I am not discarding those consoles and having to rebuild a family line of devices again   Zenkuso Member Jan 28, 2019 738 Gouda said: New Zealand prices/preorders are up at EB: https://www.ebgames.co.nz/nintendo-switch $799.95NZD/$869.95NZD. With the current exchange rate it's actually a bit cheaper than the US price. Mario Kart World is $129.95NZD while the other Nintendo published titles are $119.95NZD. So it appears to be inline with the MSRP for PS5/Xbox games here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah went up just after 7am. JB is up now too: https://www.jbhifi.co.nz/pages/nintendo-switch-2  Listai 50¢ - "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,687 Just put in my order at my local JB as I had a $300 Westfield voucher set aside since Christmas. Just got the console and the Pro controller. I had the dubious honour of being the first person to order one at that store.  WeWereGiants Member Nov 8, 2017 475 Considering how insane it was to pre order a PS5 here and I'm expecting Switch 2 demand to be high, that was one of the easiest console pre-orders I've ever done I'm shocked EB didn't lock pre-orders behind their subscription to be honest  JT_77 Member Mar 15, 2021 1,388 Ordered the MK bundle from JB. Almost felt too easy lol   twdnewh Member Oct 31, 2018 664 Sydney, Australia Surprised at the price, expected it to be higher.   Listai 50¢ - "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,687 twdnewh said: Surprised at the price, expected it to be higher. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Same - I was expecting $750  shadowzinthedark Member Oct 31, 2017 328 I had a look to order it, notice didnt have any issues stopped at the checkout part. Dont think scalping will be a issue. Dam 115 for a game  JT_77 Member Mar 15, 2021 1,388 shadowzinthedark said: I had a look to order it, notice didnt have any issues stopped at the checkout part. Dont think scalping will be a issue. Dam 115 for a game Click to expand... Click to shrink... We're actually coming out better than most other countries with game pricing lol Also, Mario Kart World in the bundle is only $70aud  blueredandgold Member Oct 25, 2017 8,462 OI OI OI   ThereAreFourNaan Member Nov 8, 2017 14,935 Locked in at my local EB, without Mario Kart. I might get it but I'll probably grab it physically if there's any deals on it closer to launch from a different store. Day 1 new game release bargain Switch 2 pricing from JB will be like "only" 95 dollars lol  Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,214 Washington, D.C. Okabe said: Perfection   hidys The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 1,885 Bought the Mario Kart bundle.   nogoodnamesleft Member Oct 25, 2017 8,508 mccauslander said: Gahhhh it looks dope (DANKEY KANG!) but that price is soooo expenny (though I get it because tariffs) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Has nothing to do with tarrifs here It's basically a straight usd to AUD conversation with gst Edit: it's actually cheaper in aus when a straight conversation is done  Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,596 Okabe said: Simpsons never fail to cover all bases   ClivePwned Member Oct 27, 2017 4,141 Australia if i can get it on amazon, i will, but at this stage, I can wait a bit until DK is released.   matrix-cat Member Oct 27, 2017 10,404 Console price is good in terms of exchange rate, game price is hard to comment on because RRP for games here has been $100+ forever but they always come down once the retailers start warring amongst eachother. Or I suppose maybe they'll just stay high this time, lol. The fact that the websites aren't even getting hit hard and you can seemingly just lock in a pre-order without issue says it all, though. It is still a $700 Switch with $100+ ports and a Mario Kart.  mccauslander Member Jun 2, 2019 343 Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia nogoodnamesleft said: Has nothing to do with tarrifs here It's basically a straight usd to AUD conversation with gst Edit: it's actually cheaper in aus when a straight conversation is done Click to expand... Click to shrink... While there are no direct tariffs on the Switch 2 here, the mood of the tariffs has shook the global economy and will definitely have an impact on parts of the global supply chain (like how Trump has put a 40+% tariff on Vietnam, where a lot of Nintendo's manufacturing takes place). Inflation is a key factor in the price hike, but don't discount tariffs even if we as consumers are not paying them directly.  Ramsay Member Jul 2, 2019 3,807 Australia Honestly that's quite a bit cheaper than I expected - I was fully expecting the bundle to go for NINE HUNDRED DOLLARYDOOS?! nogoodnamesleft said: Has nothing to do with tarrifs here It's basically a straight usd to AUD conversation with gst Edit: it's actually cheaper in aus when a straight conversation is done Click to expand... Click to shrink... Keep in mind that the US is one of the biggest gaming markets - Nintendo is probably trying to spread out the impact of tariffs amongst as many different markets as possible to reduce the impact of tariffs on the US (if they didn't the Switch 2 would probably cost $499 in the US).   Pat_DC Member Oct 27, 2017 2,362 The sites are so cruisey so not sure if I should even put a pre order down. Still one big part of me upgrading (only reason I got a ps5 pro) is due to good trade in deals and EB games one seems way less crazy than what they offered for ps5s etc, though I get resale value on a switch is probably lower. But was keen to ditch my launch edition switch as the fan is getting gnarly, pretty sure I could get more for my oled through private sale... but then need to deal with bozos. Bugger it, put $50 down at EB and will look at trading some older stuff towards it if preview events look promising. This definitely feels less crazy than other preorders, the looming economical situation worldwide has a lot of people on edge I think.  Last edited: Apr 2, 2025 NightShift Member Oct 25, 2017 10,226 Australia Huh, that's actually not bad. I was expecting far worse both for the consoles and games. I'm guessing digital """premium"""" games will be a cool $99? Also a very good sign that stock is still available after six hours. So picking one up when it eventually gets games won't be a headache.  Bleep Member Nov 12, 2017 249 It was very easy getting a preorder... I hope stores can actually fulfil these orders on time.   MTR Member Oct 27, 2017 508 Decent price for Australia. Seems demand quite low compared to any other console launch of the last few years.   Villa Member Oct 28, 2017 958 Got a click&collect pre-order at JB. Mario Kart bundle plus a pro controller and case/screen protector. This will somehow be the first console I've ever got on Day 1 (assuming theres no issues with preorders/stock), I've previously always been a few weeks/months late. Will be fun to be in on the day 1 excitement! Pretty surprised that it's still seemingly freely available everywhere. Maybe a combination of pricing and being available for pre-order instantly, earlier than expected? Even if the pricing can be somewhat understandable given inflation, exchange rates, world economic conditions, etc, it's still a huge jump up from the OG Switch. And most people's incomes haven't nearly caught up with the last few years inflation.  Nateo Member Oct 27, 2017 8,898 Yeah these arent selling out. Expensive games+console+cost of living crisis.   callamp Member Oct 27, 2017 1,629 Yeah, demand certainly seems pretty soft. I recall websites basically being unusable during the launch of the PS5 and even the Series consoles. It's certainly understandable. It's a giant investment given how infrequently Nintendo games go on sale. It's by far the most expensive console if you are primarily interested in first party content.  Darmik Member Oct 25, 2017 1,031 Yeah this has been the easiest console preorder in a while. I had an easy time getting a PS5 but that was more to timing. We're coming up to Switch 2 being available all morning and still seems quite easy. Nintendo does tend to be a bit more aggressive with pricing compared to the competition here. Although they've certainly closed that software pricing gap with the Switch 2. 

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Atheerios Member Oct 27, 2017 7,418 Nintendo Switch 2 llegará a México el 5 de junio y este es su precio La empresa japonesa confirmó que la preventa de la consola será a partir del 25 de abril. expansion.mx Prices: - Individual SKU: $13,599 (696 USD) - Bundle with MKW: $14,899 (763 USD) - Mario Kart World: $1,999 (102 USD) - Donkey Kong Bananza: $1,749 (89 USD)  BabyDontHurtMe Member Dec 9, 2018 30,254 New Jersey That's nearly 700 bucks for a base Switch 2 Jesus...   Zyrokai Member Nov 1, 2017 5,164 Columbus, Ohio Why is it so expensive there? I honestly don't know what Nintendo's presence in Mexico is like. Has it always been this way? Seems like it should be a big market for them but perhaps not.   delete12345 One Winged Slayer Member Nov 17, 2017 21,592 Boston, MA Zyrokai said: Why is it so expensive there? I honestly don't know what Nintendo's presence in Mexico is like. Has it always been this way? Seems like it should be a big market for them but perhaps not. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Margins there are pretty thin.   808s & Villainy Member Oct 27, 2017 46,285 Can someone explain why the prices are so high there? I don't know how it compares to Switch 1 or other consoles, so it makes it even harder to assess   Moai Avenger Oct 27, 2017 457 Chile Chile prices: Switch 2 $629.990 CLP ( 669 USD) Bundle con Mario Kart $689.990 CLP (732 USD) Mario Kart World $94.990 CLP (101 USD) Donkey Kong Bananza $82.990 CLP (88 USD)  Darkreaver Member Feb 16, 2024 781 Zyrokai said: Why is it so expensive there? I honestly don't know what Nintendo's presence in Mexico is like. Has it always been this way? Seems like it should be a big market for them but perhaps not. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's not a nintendo thing if you would look up the ps5 price. It should be related to taxes i think.(same about xbox series x)  FantasticToma Member Sep 21, 2024 1,983 Germany What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available?  delete12345 One Winged Slayer Member Nov 17, 2017 21,592 Boston, MA 808s & Villainy said: Can someone explain why the prices are so high there? I don't know how it compares to Switch 1 or other consoles, so it makes it even harder to assess Click to expand... Click to shrink... It is expected for the video games and consoles to be taxed heavily, it's just we aren't sure just how much.   BlueStarEXSF Member Dec 3, 2018 5,609 Holy crap... those prices are asinine. How do consoles/games even sell in Mexico ?   Tochtli79 Member Jun 27, 2019 5,961 Mexico City Say goodbye to the LatAm market with those prices. That is nearly double the average monthly salary for professionals and technicians as reported by the Mexican government. Not even counting tradespeople and other types of workers. I don't see most enthusiasts saving up to buy the Switch 2 over the PS5 or an Xbox even if it's newer.   delete12345 One Winged Slayer Member Nov 17, 2017 21,592 Boston, MA FantasticToma said: What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I felt that it's economical reasons like the tariffs and the imported goods taxes.   ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,311 Midgar FantasticToma said: What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Because then those consoles would be smuggled across the border North. So they are pricing it high enough to eliminate that, but also high enough that the extra money they get from rich folks that can pay any price, offsets the money they lose from selling less volume to poorer folks. Same as they do in Turkey and many other places.  Anbec One Winged Slayer Member Oct 26, 2017 1,435 Well shit, I was kinda expecting it to be 12k not 13...   Eila Member Oct 27, 2017 3,342 Darkreaver said: It's not a nintendo thing if you would look up the ps5 price. It should be related to taxes i think.(same about xbox series x) Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't think so, Brazil is a different story, they have massive taxes for imports, but Mexico and Chile are relatively open economies. There's a 16% VAT in Mexico, but that doesn't come close to the price hike. Here's PS5 listed on amazon with a price of $10,731. It's listed as "on sale" but looking at it's price history it's been fairly constantly around that price. Switch 2 is such a crap deal in comparison. Amazon.com.mx   FantasticToma Member Sep 21, 2024 1,983 Germany ConflictResolver said: Because then those consoles would be smuggled across the border North. So they are pricing it high enough to eliminate that, but also high enough that the extra money they get from rich folks that can pay any price, offsets the money they lose from selling less volume to poorer folks. Same as they do in Turkey and many other places. Click to expand... Click to shrink... So basically Mexico would need a Mexican language-only Switch 2, similar to what Nintendo is doing in Japan, to offer it for cheaper prices for locals, eh?  ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,311 Midgar FantasticToma said: So basically Mexico would need a Mexican language-only Switch 2, similar to what Nintendo is doing in Japan, to offer it for cheaper prices for locals, eh? Click to expand... Click to shrink... That actually would be awesome of them to do. I wonder if it would work out cheaper for Spanish people to import it then buying the Spanish stock lol.  Lant_War Classic Anus Game The Fallen Jul 14, 2018 25,103 FantasticToma said: So basically Mexico would need a Mexican language-only Switch 2, similar to what Nintendo is doing in Japan, to offer it for cheaper prices for locals, eh? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Tbh this probably wouldn't work too well considering how many spanish speakers there are worldwide   Eila Member Oct 27, 2017 3,342 ConflictResolver said: That actually would be awesome of them to do. I wonder if it would work out cheaper for Spanish people to import it then buying the Spanish stock lol. Click to expand... Click to shrink... By the way, it's cheaper from people here to just buy the European switch than buying at the local price.   ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,311 Midgar Eila said: By the way, it's cheaper from people here to just buy the European switch than buying at the local price. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Madness.   struggler Member Mar 2, 2022 485 Moai said: Chile prices: Switch 2 $629.990 CLP ( 669 USD) Bundle con Mario Kart $689.990 CLP (732 USD) Mario Kart World $94.990 CLP (101 USD) Donkey Kong Bananza $82.990 CLP (88 USD) Click to expand... Click to shrink... In which store they already have prices confirmed? I was talking to someone in a store and they were saying something in about that range (Sniper in Las Palmas/Providencia).   guill Member Nov 14, 2017 189 Oh wow, and Mexico actually has the the distribuitor for Latam therrle, Latamel. Looks lile pricing will be horrible in the region   OP OP Atheerios Member Oct 27, 2017 7,418 struggler said: In which store they already have prices confirmed? I was talking to someone in a store and they were saying something in about that range (Sniper in Las Palmas/Providencia). Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's now also being reported by multiple Chilean news sites, its official   Black_Red Member Oct 27, 2017 2,946 This is probably happening because these consoles come from USA (tariffs), and nintendo is selling at a loss there because they can't afford to lose that market, but they won't sell at a loss in LATAM =/. Other Nintendo consoles aren't that expensive in Chile.  Eila Member Oct 27, 2017 3,342 Black_Red said: This is probably happening because these consoles come from USA (tariffs), and nintendo is selling at a loss there because they can't afford to lose that market, but they won't sell at a loss in LATAM =/. Other Nintendo consoles aren't that expensive in Chile. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Switch 1 has good prices because they are the japanese consoles being brought over. When I got the switch 1 all the instructions inside were in Japanese.   HardRojo One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 28,650 Peru Haha, not really looking forward to prices here in Peru. $450 seems like such a steal in comparison.   KanameYuuki Member Dec 23, 2017 3,049 Colombia Apparently for Colombia Nintendo Switch 2 $2.859.900 pesos.(667usd) Switch 2 + Mario Kart World costará $3.119.900 pesos (728usd). They can fuck off with those official prices, I was a fool expecting better, so Switch 2 is as expensive as a ps5 with the returnal + r&c bundle.  Dunfish Member Oct 29, 2017 1,521 That sucks so bad.   CielYoshi Member May 10, 2018 2,349 Santiago, Chile Moai said: Chile prices: Switch 2 $629.990 CLP ( 669 USD) Bundle con Mario Kart $689.990 CLP (732 USD) Mario Kart World $94.990 CLP (101 USD) Donkey Kong Bananza $82.990 CLP (88 USD) Click to expand... Click to shrink... For reference: It's gonna be literally more expensive that a freaking PS5 + 2 games, and the PS5 ain't exactly flying off the shelves here...  Daniagatha ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 31, 2018 771 Brazil Yep. Announced to Brazil too. Only the console at R$4.500 (765 USD) and the game mario kart at R$500 (85 USD). It's insane.  Happy Puppy Member Oct 29, 2017 1,908 Black_Red said: This is probably happening because these consoles come from USA (tariffs), and nintendo is selling at a loss there because they can't afford to lose that market, but they won't sell at a loss in LATAM =/. Other Nintendo consoles aren't that expensive in Chile. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Multiple users in another thread said that a product just passing by to another country doesn't get hit by tarrifs. Still LoL even LMAO. Tan pendejos. Mobile gaming it is (would say PC but that also seems fucked).  toilet_sandpaper Member Aug 31, 2019 442 Black_Red said: This is probably happening because these consoles come from USA (tariffs), and nintendo is selling at a loss there because they can't afford to lose that market, but they won't sell at a loss in LATAM =/. Other Nintendo consoles aren't that expensive in Chile. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes I believe this is the case. Nintendo products sold in Brazil come first from the USA as far as I know, and the price policy is defined by the Mexico division of Nintendo, which I understand is applied to other Latam countries as well. Tariffs are usually high in Brazil, but with the tariff over tariff situation the price will be ridiculous in Brazil.  toilet_sandpaper Member Aug 31, 2019 442 Daniagatha said: Yep. Announced to Brazil too. Only the console at R$4.500 (765 USD) and the game mario kart at R$500 (85 USD). It's insane. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ah the usual console pricing in Brazil 10 X (Price in USD) X R$/USD  struggler Member Mar 2, 2022 485 Atheerios said: That's now also being reported by multiple Chilean news sites, its official Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thanks, didn't know about that. I can pay those prices but the vast majority are going to look that and just buy a Switch OLED or any other console. Kinda depressing that Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about the LATAM market.   HeRinger Member Oct 28, 2017 4,792 FantasticToma said: So basically Mexico would need a Mexican language-only Switch 2, similar to what Nintendo is doing in Japan, to offer it for cheaper prices for locals, eh? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It doesn't matter that 99% of the population is poor if the 1% meets your supply and is willing to pay the price.   CielYoshi Member May 10, 2018 2,349 Santiago, Chile struggler said: Thanks, didn't know about that. I can pay those prices but the vast majority are going to look that and just buy a Switch OLED or any other console. Kinda depressing that Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about the LATAM market. Click to expand... Click to shrink... As I posted above, at that price it would become the priciest console on the market today, so it would instantly become DOA even before factoring the individual game prices.   Kodaman Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Oct 27, 2017 575 jesus... I need another job now   Eriol "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 938 Santiago, Chile Happy Puppy said: Multiple users in another thread said that a product just passing by to another country doesn't get hit by tarrifs. Still LoL even LMAO. Tan pendejos. Mobile gaming it is (would say PC but that also seems fucked). Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is all because Nintendo Latam is just managed by JVLAT, and they import the consoles, games, accesories through NoA >_>, they buy from NoA's inventory   CenaToon Member Oct 25, 2017 5,606 I dont know if it's because tariffs or what, but damn latin america is FUCKED HARD with the new prices... Fuck you nintendo. Eriol said: This is all because Nintendo Latam is just managed by JVLAT, and they import the consoles, games, accesories through NoA >_>, they buy from NoA's inventory Click to expand... Click to shrink... Exactly this... everything gaming related pass for USA first before coming to latam... tariffs are 100% impacting us.  Cess007 Member Oct 27, 2017 15,329 B.C., Mexico 2mil pesos for a game? FUCK NO! Yeah, I am not getting this soon until a deep discount.  Tmespe Member Oct 27, 2017 3,724 Yeah fuck Nintendo. It's okay to give Japan lower prices, but any other country, regardless of purchasing power, gets fucked. At least with Sony they fuck everyone.   vio55555 Member Apr 11, 2024 3,206 FantasticToma said: What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Consoles are pretty much a rich people thing in those countries. Way smaller group of people can afford them. Partially why mobile gaming has taken off as it has in many countries in similar situations.  Blackbird Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 7,181 Brazil FantasticToma said: What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available? Click to expand... Click to shrink... and it's not even that we're currently really poor (as in Brazil) on day-to-day life, even if we're also a part of a global trend towards everything getting more expensive, while salaries and minimal wage doesn't, as well. it's just, on top of that, we are also dealing with regional prices that don't reflect what we can afford in many ways. which is such a shame because since the X360/PS3 era it started to rise and get as near as possible to parity on official gaming products. now, ever since this gen started it feels like we're dropping backwards till eventually the local market shrinks and it's a much more than just a luxury. something we watch people enjoy from afar.  DJwest Member Oct 26, 2017 7,818 Brutal prices. Damn   Mattmo831 Featuring Mattmo831 from the Apple v Epic case Member Oct 26, 2020 6,429 My plan to buy in Mexico while I'm on vacation during the launch is now a no go at those prices…. Yikes   CielYoshi Member May 10, 2018 2,349 Santiago, Chile Tmespe said: Yeah fuck Nintendo. It's okay to give Japan lower prices, but any other country, regardless of purchasing power, gets fucked. At least with Sony they fuck everyone. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What's interesting is that, at least in Chile, at some point Sony just decided to reverse course and started slashing prices, for example the PS5 Pro at launch couldn't be gotten for less than CLP1200k, but now it hovers between CLP900k-950k, and the base PS5 could be gotten for as low as CLP490k if you're going all digital.   Kazooie Member Jul 17, 2019 6,067 FantasticToma said: What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I would assume it is two-fold: 1. Tariffs and vat may just lead to this price level 2. They might still decide to sell them at a discount because of the market being poorer, however, the wiggle room for the price would already outprice everyone who is not super rich in the country and the moneysacks on the other hand are not too price sensitive, so it would not make much sense to sell at a discount. As Tochtli79 noted, that is twice the average monthly wage for technical jobs in the country; if Nintendo were to go down to "just" 1.5 times the average monthly wage for technical jobs, that would probably not expand their market much. As you know, video games are my biggest hobby, and Nintendo has a very special position in that regard, but if Nintendo asked for just one monthly wage for me to buy a Switch 2, I would be so out. Not because of disinterest, but because I could just not do it.  oty Member Feb 28, 2023 5,510 FantasticToma said: What I never understand: Aren't Mexico and Brazil rather poor countries? Like, people make less money than in the big European and American market, right? So ... shouldn't consoles be cheaper there? Why raise the price in a country where people already have less money available? Click to expand... Click to shrink... it's a margin focused endeavour, and there's not gonna be great profitability if you are eating the tariffs or if neighbouring countries are getting "cheaper" products i mean, even Europe and the USA are feeling it nowadays. Nintendo just cut a portion of their consumer base because they won't provide the margins they want. Apple did that, Samsung did that with their premium smartphone. Sony obviously did that, and it's partly the reason why Xbox made the Series S. There's just more money to be made the further you go up the economical ladder  Buzz Lightyear Member Apr 17, 2025 3 See you in 5 years, Nintendo Switch 2. Insane prices.   Amnixia ▲ Legend ▲ The Fallen Jan 25, 2018 11,760 Atheerios said: Nintendo Switch 2 llegará a México el 5 de junio y este es su precio La empresa japonesa confirmó que la preventa de la consola será a partir del 25 de abril. expansion.mx Prices: - Individual SKU: $13,599 (696 USD) - Bundle with MKW: $14,899 (763 USD) - Mario Kart World: $1,999 (102 USD) - Donkey Kong Bananza: $1,749 (89 USD) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Absolutely bonkers, what are they thinking? 

Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,607 Midwest Alpha begins today at 10am PST / Noon CST / 1pm EST and goes through May 4th. No end time has been given. Bungie has also lifted the NDA so we can all speak freely about what we think and even share gameplay. Please, no code begging in this thread.  EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 tell me how it feels sitting on the connect screeen. i need all the impression.   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,701 Lifting the NDA does sound like they're confident in what they have IMO It's free publicity.  OP OP Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,607 Midwest Patitoloco said: Lifting the NDA does sound like they're confident in what they have IMO It's free publicity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep, smart of them. I'm sure they'll bookmark this thread too. heh   vixolus Prophet of Truth Member Sep 22, 2020 69,897 Patitoloco said: Lifting the NDA does sound like they're confident in what they have IMO It's free publicity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think it also just didnt make sense when the content in the alpha is what they already publicly showed on stream and have had the press talk about in detail with footage etc   CloseTalker Sister in the Craft Member Oct 25, 2017 37,811 Patitoloco said: Lifting the NDA does sound like they're confident in what they have IMO It's free publicity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... it's gonna go one of two ways, for sure   EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 CloseTalker said: it's gonna go one of two ways, for sure Click to expand... Click to shrink... either looks like roblox or it doesnt   Uzupedro Member May 16, 2020 13,677 Rio de Janeiro GIVE ME THS CODE   Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 27,733 Excited to watch some gameplay on my lunch break and play it myself when I get home tonight. In Bungie I trust.   Genesius Member Nov 2, 2018 20,204 Patitoloco said: Lifting the NDA does sound like they're confident in what they have IMO It's free publicity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's one of those cases where I'm actually quite confident they've made a good multiplayer PvPvE extraction shooter I just don't want the multiplayer PvP part  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,701 CloseTalker said: it's gonna go one of two ways, for sure Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well, even if word of mouth is bad, that's just a trampoline to come out in the summer and say "ohh we listened, look how much better we made everything". The important part is that people talk about Marathon IMO  TheChungusAmongUs Member Oct 25, 2017 14,439 Looking forward to playing after work   EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 Genesius said: It's one of those cases where I'm actually quite confident they've made a good multiplayer PvPvE extraction shooter I just don't want the multiplayer PvP part Click to expand... Click to shrink... just do the pve side and exfil before you die.   OP OP Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,607 Midwest EssBeeVee said: just do the pve side and exfil before you die. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'd prefer this, I'm just wondering how big/small the maps are and if running into other players is almost always certain.  CloseTalker Sister in the Craft Member Oct 25, 2017 37,811 Patitoloco said: Well, even if word of mouth is bad, that's just a trampoline to come out in the summer and say "ohh we listened, look how much better we made everything". The important part is that people talk about Marathon IMO Click to expand... Click to shrink... Just my opinion as someone who has spent a decade in marketing, "all press is good press" is a common fallacy haha. Doesn't mean a game can't turn around from less-than-stellar first impressions, but if the impressions are poor (which I have no real reason to believe they will be here), I promise no one at Bungie is going to be saying "well, on the bright side at least people are talking about us!"   Last edited: Today at 10:51 AM KINGofCRA5H Member Oct 25, 2017 1,220 Napa, CA Really hoping they add more people soon.   Azai Member Jun 10, 2020 5,120 The footage of the second map doesnt look that good graphics-wise either. really washed out without much details. what I dont understand is that they said they changed art direction last second to a more managable direction for hardware. now yesterday one of the devs reacted to a Paul Tassis tweet basically saying that its an alpha and they are going to get to the original direction. this is just as contradicting as them saying the alpha wont be NA exclusive 2 days before the reveal...  YorkshireDaveUK Member Jun 1, 2021 8,200 Some of you really need to get over the graphics. They have said they will continue to improve them, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.   Genesius Member Nov 2, 2018 20,204 EssBeeVee said: just do the pve side and exfil before you die. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't think that's how it works though, lol It's still multiplayer and PvP even if I go in solo  Aesthet1c Member Oct 27, 2017 1,047 Bummed I didn't make it in to this, but stoked to be checking out some streams today!   Azai Member Jun 10, 2020 5,120 Wallace said: I'd prefer this, I'm just wondering how big/small the maps are and if running into other players is almost always certain. Click to expand... Click to shrink... the map they showed in the reveal is pretty small for an extraction shooter and you saw them running into other teams quite frequently. the other thing preventing people from ignoring PvP is the ability from one of the heroes that can scan the surounding along with its robot that does the same  IMCaprica Member Aug 1, 2019 10,770 So glad I work from home and that today will (I think) be an extremely easy day because I'm caught up. Wallace said: I'd prefer this, I'm just wondering how big/small the maps are and if running into other players is almost always certain. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Azai said: the map they showed in the reveal is pretty small for an extraction shooter and you saw them running into other teams quite frequently. the other thing preventing people from ignoring PvP is the ability from one of the heroes that can scan the surounding along with its robot that does the same Click to expand... Click to shrink... Bungie hasn't done themselves any favors with how they've edited official clips. After watching unedited (and less edited) games media clips of their test (as well as some from those players who got on early) it seems clear to me that PvP is far less frequent than we were led to believe. At least on Dire Marsh.   RoboPlato Member Oct 25, 2017 8,186 Patitoloco said: Lifting the NDA does sound like they're confident in what they have IMO It's free publicity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The majority of the people that have played it are positive on it while many that are iffy have not. It makes sense to drop the NDA so people can stream and discuss it, people not in the test can better see the flow of a match, and they can get wider feedback for the final push in development. Realistically it was one of the only moves they had, the alpha build was already set, but it was smart and I'm glad they made the decision before the test started   behOemoth Member Oct 27, 2017 6,647 Having no nda for such kind of games makes sense as "meta" team play is what makes it fun.   WinFonda Member Oct 27, 2017 2,738 USA edit: issue i was having was my own fault, thanks JRedCX!   Last edited: Today at 1:00 PM Crespo Member Oct 27, 2017 5,953 Wallace said: I'd prefer this, I'm just wondering how big/small the maps are and if running into other players is almost always certain. Click to expand... Click to shrink... From what I've seen/read, even the PVE mobs will be quite the handful to handle solo.   Uzupedro Member May 16, 2020 13,677 Rio de Janeiro Bungie confirms no Marathon Alpha codes will be sent out today as "our team focuses on Alpha launch." "Waves of codes will begin again on 4/24." fuck me in the ass  OP OP Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,607 Midwest Yeah, hopefully since the alpha is so long most of us will get in eventually.   Kyuuji The Favonius Fox Member Nov 8, 2017 37,933 Bungie getting tired of me checking lol   EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 Kyuuji said: Bungie getting tired of me checking lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... the first day you had to alt+f4 because the "dismiss" button didn't work. at least not for me.   Kyuuji The Favonius Fox Member Nov 8, 2017 37,933 EssBeeVee said: the first day you had to alt+f4 because the "dismiss" button didn't work. at least not for me. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeh I couldn't select anything there, just had to hard quit lol.   Saucycarpdog Member Oct 25, 2017 20,017 Inb4 the dozens of posts asking for a solo queue.   SolidSnakeUS Member Oct 25, 2017 11,943 Still waiting on a key. May have to play alone as none of my friends are interested really... should be interesting to play against squads...   EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 SolidSnakeUS said: Still waiting on a key. May have to play alone as none of my friends are interested really... should be interesting to play against squads... Click to expand... Click to shrink... im gonna test if the ping system is good enough since i usually never use mic unless im playing with others i know   SolidSnakeUS Member Oct 25, 2017 11,943 EssBeeVee said: im gonna test if the ping system is good enough since i usually never use mic unless im playing with others i know Click to expand... Click to shrink... I know maybe one person that MAY play, but another friend of mine is just generally off-put by the art design. So yeah, I'll probably be going into this blind. I will say this, even if someone offered on here to join up with me, keep in mind, I'm generally very shy and reserved with people I don't know haha.  EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 SolidSnakeUS said: I know maybe one person that MAY play, but another friend of mine is just generally off-put by the art design. So yeah, I'll probably be going into this blind. I will say this, even if someone offered on here to join up with me, keep in mind, I'm generally very shy and reserved with people I don't know haha. Click to expand... Click to shrink... its like with apex when i first started out. it was more so because i wasn't confident enough to play with others but then i started playing with a streamer community to learn and eventually end up playing pubs. so this probably the same since extraction shooters but i dont see much different to what i do in other games but we'll see!   SolidSnakeUS Member Oct 25, 2017 11,943 EssBeeVee said: its like with apex when i first started out. it was more so because i wasn't confident enough to play with others but then i started playing with a streamer community to learn and eventually end up playing pubs. so this probably the same since extraction shooters but i dont see much different to what i do in other games but we'll see! Click to expand... Click to shrink... I hope my 1K+ hours in PUBG helps me survive this haha.  Tappin Brews #TeamThierry Member Oct 25, 2017 16,063 Cautiously excited for this, primarily due to Bungie's pedigree. Looking For Group - I have near zero BR experience and NO extraction shooter experience, but am quite good at multiplayer shooters  Last edited: Today at 12:41 PM Sordid Plebeian Member Oct 26, 2017 19,599 There will be a pop cap that will be slowly lifted throughout the alpha just a heads up   Kyuuji The Favonius Fox Member Nov 8, 2017 37,933 Think I'll run solo no-fill to start if it all works for me. Wanna spend time looking around. Also gives me an excuse to test the scope of stealth and escape in the game.   BobsReset Chicken Chaser Member Oct 26, 2017 986 Curious to hear impressions from when people get in! I wonder if there is a Resetera Discord for Marathon at all?   Last edited: Today at 12:49 PM EssBeeVee Member Oct 25, 2017 23,915 youre up against 5 other squads of 3 so its not bad. ;P   JRedCX Member Nov 10, 2020 1,023 WinFonda said: major 1st world problem here for me i got in the alpha, i redeemed the code on my base ps5 thinking i could also download on my pro, and... i can't? it's not in my library and redeeming the code again doesn't pull up the download dont know if this is an oversight or if there is some reason for it, but kinda sucks. cautionary tale for anyone who gets in. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Are you sure is the same account? You should be able to download it. You can try to start the download on the PS App.  WinFonda Member Oct 27, 2017 2,738 USA JRedCX said: Are you sure is the same account? You should be able to download it. You can try to start the download on the PS App. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ohh bro you saved me. i forgot to tab over to 'purchased', and it's there now. thank you!   RoboPlato Member Oct 25, 2017 8,186 Uzupedro said: Bungie confirms no Marathon Alpha codes will be sent out today as "our team focuses on Alpha launch." "Waves of codes will begin again on 4/24." fuck me in the ass Click to expand... Click to shrink... Dammit   Twinduct Member Oct 27, 2017 1,002 Kyuuji said: Bungie getting tired of me checking lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... We need more of these passive aggressive error screens. Not that it's my kink or anything. edit: Think we getting some guitar errors?  spookyduzt Drive-In Mutant The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 11,813 I'm ready to give it a chance.   JRedCX Member Nov 10, 2020 1,023 WinFonda said: ohh bro you saved me. i forgot to tab over to 'purchased', and it's there now. thank you! Click to expand... Click to shrink... No problem. Let's hope we can play today because I think this will broke their servers.   bitcloudrzr Member May 31, 2018 20,295 Kyuuji said: Think I'll run solo no-fill to start if it all works for me. Wanna spend time looking around. Also gives me an excuse to test the scope of stealth and escape in the game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Your ping is going to be like 100 anyway right? Might as well practice evasion.   Mr. Lemming Member Oct 25, 2017 631 Got through the queue and back to the access denied screen about the cohort not having access. Let's try again.  

OT Name: Angie Writing: JuanLatino​ Founded in 1984 by Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin as an independent developer, Naughty Dog began its partnership with PlayStation in 1996 with the release of the iconic Crash Bandicoot. Acquired by Sony in 2001, Naughty Dog has since become one of the most respected and critically acclaimed studios in the gaming industry, known for producing Game of the Year blockbusters such as Uncharted and The Last of Us. ProjectsDirectorStatus/SourceRelease DateThe Last of Us RemakeMatthew Gallant & Shaun EscaygReleased2022TLOU Part 2 RemasteredMatthew GallantReleased2024Intergalactic: The Heretic ProphetNeil DruckmannConfirmedTBANew UnchartedRumor Santa Monica Studio was founded in 1999 by Sony Computer Entertainment America and Allan Becker. The studio gained widespread recognition with the God of War series, which has since become an iconic franchise. 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Vito One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy Member Oct 25, 2017 18,341 Yes, I know that incomplete carts or code in box releases were a thing on SW1 but this seems to be way more common on SW2 with these key carts. So what say you collectors? Are you still buying these releases or not?  Seaneko Member Jun 11, 2020 1,089 California Yeah this sucks and I knew this would happen the immediate moment it was shown off in the Direct. As someone with a huge Switch game library I might just go all-digital for Switch 2 aside from first-party games with everything on cart.   PucePikmin Member Apr 26, 2018 5,226 Buying a physical game without an actual physical game in the box is kind of a worst of both worlds situation. I'd never bother, except maybe if I was buying a gift for somebody.   Mullet2000 Member Oct 25, 2017 6,357 Toronto Yeah most third parties are just going to opt for these for the lower cost. I think my physical game collecting is just going to have a hard cutoff between Switch and Switch 2. For nintendo stuff at least.   BeansBeansBeans Member Jan 14, 2025 515 Games are getting bigger and the physical media required to store them is expensive. Just makes sense for developers to go to digital....   Killyoh Member Oct 28, 2017 1,763 Paris, France I get it for really big games. Well I don't condone it but I can see why they would do that. But for Puyo Puyo? Come on.   Cipher Peon One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 9,484 I'm physical only but don't care about downloading the game once I have the cart/disk in my console. So I'll still be collecting these, assuming the cart has the official art and stuff on it. Yeah.   Reflecting Sky Member Mar 17, 2024 2,478 Storage is gonna be a major issue on Switch 2. We're gonna have larger save files, larger games, and what do we have? 256GB microSD Express cards so far. lol Gonna wait til it becomes more viable.  OP OP Vito One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy Member Oct 25, 2017 18,341 Reflecting Sky said: Storage is gonna be a major issue on Switch 2. We're gonna have larger save files, larger games, and what do we have? 256GB microSD Express cards so far. lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, if SE doesn't compress the FFVIIR games then those 2 will take up the entire console storage. Insanity.  gamewhoopr Member Dec 10, 2018 639 PucePikmin said: Buying a physical game without an actual physical game in the box is kind of a worst of both worlds situation. I'd never bother, except maybe if I was buying a gift for somebody. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can still collect, sell, and/or let someone borrow these, though.  BeansBeansBeans Member Jan 14, 2025 515 Reflecting Sky said: Storage is gonna be a major issue on Switch 2. We're gonna have larger save files, larger games, and what do we have? 256GB microSD Express cards so far. lol Gonna wait til it becomes more viable. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Lexar has a 1TB card out now.  RPGam3r Member Oct 27, 2017 16,210 Reflecting Sky said: Storage is gonna be a major issue on Switch 2. We're gonna have larger save files, larger games, and what do we have? 256GB microSD Express cards so far. lol Gonna wait til it becomes more viable. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can snag a 1TB card.  Threadmarks In-depth chart of the releases. New Index --R Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,318 I started a chart to track this a couple weeks back and yeah, it's pretty grim. Here's how it's looking right now after these 3.   New Index OP OP Vito One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy Member Oct 25, 2017 18,341 BeansBeansBeans said: Lexar has a 1TB card out now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... And it's expensive as shit.   Lowblood Member Oct 30, 2017 6,220 At the moment, yeah, I'm not planning on buying any of the key carts. Might end up with one eventually via a discount or something. But it's possible my Switch 2 physical collection might be almost entirely first party, outside of the rare Cyberpunk situation. My "main" physical platform has been Playstation since the PS4, so I'll just keep doing that for as long as it's viable.  Tony72495 Member Apr 26, 2019 2,472 Killyoh said: I get it for really big games. Well I don't condone it but I can see why they would do that. But for Puyo Puyo? Come on. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Supposedly a leaker says that Nintendo is only producing 64GB game cards and a "very small size" with not much in-between, maybe it's just not cost effective to produce anything else. And supposedly the 64GB card used for Cyberpunk is a whopping $16 to manufacture.  AHA-Lambda Member Oct 25, 2017 12,656 This may be a pre existing idea but that they we t to the bother of coming up with this branding for it, yeah I think it's going to be unfortunately common   mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,048 Pubs are accustomed to pressing discs for pennys, past a certain point they are not going to shell out for storage that actually costs something. This was beginning to be the case with Switch 1, and we were talking about deciding between 16-32 GB there or less.  Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 33,722 This is exactly what I and others have been saying. Key cards are cheaper than the cheapest storage size available. Of course third parties will take the option, whether the game can fit on existing cards or not.  InfinitePotat0 Member May 29, 2018 1,638 Cipher Peon said: I'm physical only but don't care about downloading the game once I have the cart/disk in my console. So I'll still be collecting these, assuming the cart has the official art and stuff on it. Yeah. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is my same thought. I'm mainly a PC player so I'm okay with downloading games. My thought process is I want the physical thing with official artwork on my shelf. If this is a cost cutting thing to make sure that physical wanters still get their thing, I'm okay with it   Raigor Member May 14, 2020 16,015 People can't pretend to have portability + full games on cartrides + decent prices at the same time.   AHA-Lambda Member Oct 25, 2017 12,656 --R said: I started a chart to track this a couple weeks back and yeah, it's pretty grim. Here's how it's looking right now after these 3. Click to expand... Click to shrink... God damn that stark Well done for compiling it all though  cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,821 Makes sense at launch. These games arent expected to sell millions outside of few expectations, but they still want to have a retail presence. Gotta keep the cost low. I expect this to change more towards Switch level once the system is more established and the bigger titles have reduced the card costs across the board. So not much has changed, because the alternative would have been no retail release at all or Code in a Box.  Kazooie Member Jul 17, 2019 6,067 I would have bought Sonic X Shadow Generations again for Switch 2 if it was properly on card. Now I will just stick to the Xbox version.   Reflecting Sky Member Mar 17, 2024 2,478 BeansBeansBeans said: Lexar has a 1TB card out now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... RPGam3r said: You can snag a 1TB card. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's not really readily available where I live, yet. And the price? Big issue too. Wish I could transfer my current Switch games to the Switch 2 without having to think about it, but now it'll be an issue managing it. Bummer. 1TB is also not gonna cut it if you're into third-party games I'm afraid, at least in the future.  Jroc Member Jun 9, 2018 8,013 Realistically the only way anything actually gets preserved is if the system gets hacked and people can run backups. From that perspective the lack of physical game cards doesn't really matter.   Darkreaver Member Feb 16, 2024 781 I want to stress out that those covers can be reversed to not have that big red switch 2 logo   Ouroboros Member Oct 27, 2017 15,825 Going all digital. It's such a waste of plastic.   Noisepurge Corrupted by Vengeance Member Oct 25, 2017 9,666 we're living in the last physical game generation now, every platform holder is pushing digital content only forward 😢   Xterrian Member Apr 20, 2018 3,508 I wonder how long til a company like Limited Run manages to secure the rights to do complete-on-cart versions of big 3rd party games. Want a ff7 remake cartridge? $100 + shipping.  Nerd123 Member Aug 18, 2022 637 I hate this so so much. And you know what's the most annoying thing for me personally? The fucking text at the bottom of the case. It ruins the entire look and now I am extremely worried some future games I was planning to buy physically on S2 like Hades 2 or some future Square Enix ports will be game key-cards with the hideous text on the cover. Absolute kick in the nuts to physical collectors and I cant believe Nintendo went this way with the successor to their most succesful console.  Aadiboy Member Nov 4, 2017 4,436 It feels like this will lead to an increase in digital adoption with Nintendo. Cartridge prices are only going to increase as the generations continue, so this problem will only get worse.   ShroudOfFate One Winged Slayer Member Oct 30, 2017 1,812 Switch 2 may be the first console I go primarily digital on. Between this key cart bullshit and the god awful regular box design I'll probably just stick to physical copies of Monolith Soft stuff (if that's not just a key cart as well anyway)   PallasKitten Member Jul 11, 2022 1,706 I've probably already said as much elsewhere in another one of these threads about Switch 2 key cards, but it's definitely something that's really dampened my enthusiasm for the Switch 2. The Switch 1 has been a bit of an anomaly for me with Nintendo consoles, in that I've amassed a massive library for it because it got so many physical releases for indie and smaller games, visual novels, etc. Most other Nintendo consoles' libraries for me have primarily consisted of 1st party releases, and the odd 3rd party exclusives. It looks like the Switch 2 will be a return to that for me. The only way I can see myself buying one of these "key cards" is if the game is exclusive to Switch, and it's cheaper than just buying the game digitally.  Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,454 Spain Unless someone invents a way to make cartridges as cheap as Blu-rays, I don't know what other options there are. It sucks, but it's not a situation with an easy solution.   Regular Sega Fan Member Jul 22, 2022 1,780 --R said: I started a chart to track this a couple weeks back and yeah, it's pretty grim. Here's how it's looking right now after these 3. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Followed. This doesn't look very promising ngl. Between this and the South American pricing, my Switch 2 hype is deflating fast  Nano-Nandy Member Mar 26, 2019 2,776 It was an issue I accepted long on ago on Xbox and PS when games started requiring to be fully installed from discs, then incomplete games on disc and them barely anything on the discs. Switch already had download in a box games for years; so it was expected. I just don't buy those unless it's a collector's edition and grab them digitally.  ShineALight Member Oct 27, 2017 593 I've been a fairly avid Switch collector with somewhere between 200 and 300 games, and I'm sure I'll end up cracking that latter number when all is said and done. But seeing these charts makes m feel like just throwing my hands up. I'll still get full, actual physical releases when I can but it doesn't seem like I can allow that to guide my purchases the way I have been (for example, importing something like SaGa Frontier 2 to have a physical, or waiting for a delayed physical for something like Pizza Tower). Now I have to figure out the best way to play the microSD express situation. I wonder if I should settle with a 512 or even 256 GB card for the first year or two of the Switch 2 in the hopes that a 2 TB card might be available in 2027 for the price that the 1 TB is now...  JoJo'sDentCo Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 25, 2017 9,215 SW2 or NS2?   SpiralEngine Member Jul 6, 2023 870 It's hard for me to get bent out of shape about this, because my physical Switch collection is already huge and takes up a lot of space, and the notion of having my Switch 2 collection take up the same amount of space is very unappealing tbh. I'm sure that by skipping out on all Game-Key cards, I'll be saving a lot of shelf space, which is fine by me. The only thing is, my Switch's 1.5 tb SD card is already almost full, and I'm sure my Switch 2's SD card will fill up even sooner. Ah well. Jroc said: Realistically the only way anything actually gets preserved is if the system gets hacked and people can run backups. From that perspective the lack of physical game cards doesn't really matter. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is how it is with all systems at the end of the day, which is why I can't help but roll my eyes a bit at all the moralizing about physical media as if it's the end-all be-all of preservation.  Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 122,971 Darkreaver said: I want to stress out that those covers can be reversed to not have that big red switch 2 logo Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh?  Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,193 Washington, D.C. AHA-Lambda said: God damn that stark Well done for compiling it all though Click to expand... Click to shrink... That 11.1% makes me sad as all hell   jblanco Member Oct 27, 2017 1,620 --R said: I started a chart to track this a couple weeks back and yeah, it's pretty grim. Here's how it's looking right now after these 3. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What does "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition" mean in this case? The full game is in the cartridge or not?  --R Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,318 jblanco said: What does "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition" mean in this case? The full game is in the cartridge or not? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's the Switch 1 game with the upgrade kit implemented. So far it's full physical but it's in another category for full transparency.   bloopland33 Member Mar 4, 2020 3,489 Darkreaver said: I want to stress out that those covers can be reversed to not have that big red switch 2 logo Click to expand... Click to shrink... You have pictures?   Nerd123 Member Aug 18, 2022 637 Darkreaver said: I want to stress out that those covers can be reversed to not have that big red switch 2 logo Click to expand... Click to shrink... Wait what? I hope you mean reversible cover without all the information about key card below the box and still the Switch 2 logo and spine because thats how I would still want it to look on my shelf.  psynergyadept Shinra Employee Member Oct 26, 2017 18,746 We're a dying breed...   mjc The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 6,294 TBH the only thing that gives me immense pause still is how Nintendo handles continuation of digital keys for what you have. It's the primary reason Switch games were the only ones I've bought physical this last gen.   EvaUnit787 Member Aug 6, 2023 2,794 Aren't the key carts better than just a code on a paper? Like I understand this is all a grey area, so I don't want to get in trouble, but if you have physical copy of the key that makes your ownership of said game valid, won't there be ways so you can legally (greay area again) play your games in comparison to a download code in a piece of paper?  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,387 Ibis Island I think the first year of the system is going to be filled with this. We saw similar with the Switch 1, Will get better as the years go and more cartridge sizes are available. With that said, I imagine a lot of stuff we're going to have to pray gets a re-release later on 

Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,379 Ibis Island Per RGG Twitter - Never Before Seen Cutscenes - Red Light Raid 4-Player Online Mode with up to 60 Unlockable characters - French, Italian, German, and Spanish Text - English Voiceover  Last edited: Apr 2, 2025 Tailzo Fallen Guardian Member Oct 27, 2017 8,918 Day 1   Chaserjoey Keeper of the White Materia Member Oct 27, 2017 9,764 Is it just new cutscenes?   mrtanooki Member May 9, 2024 704 very interested to see if this is Switch 2 only or multiplatform.   liquidtmd Avenger Oct 28, 2017 6,671 Hmm. Wonder what's in it / is it exclusive?   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,685 I wonder what the hell the director's cut content is. I suppose it's coming to other consoles as well?  Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,247 Not dragon engine booooo   Blade30 Member Oct 26, 2017 5,858 Director's Cut? Is there anything new or something?   Tailzo Fallen Guardian Member Oct 27, 2017 8,918 New cutscenes in one of my favourite games? I need it.   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,675 Blade30 said: Director's Cut? Is there anything new or something? Click to expand... Click to shrink... New cutscenes   happydeer Enlightened Member Aug 4, 2021 1,309 So is this multiplatform and what's the new content?   vestan #REFANTAZIO SWEEP Member Dec 28, 2017 27,464 Late ass late port but that key art is sexyyyy I don't know if I have it in me to play Yakuza 0 for the 10th time  Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,623 I HAVE ONE MORE PLAYTHROUGH IN ME   Tailzo Fallen Guardian Member Oct 27, 2017 8,918 vestan said: Late ass late port but that key art is sexyyyy I don't know if I have it in me to play Yakuza 0 for the 10th time Click to expand... Click to shrink... Luckily I have only played it twice. (I love it so much!)   Blade30 Member Oct 26, 2017 5,858 Desma said: New cutscenes Click to expand... Click to shrink...   Sol C. Johnson Member Oct 28, 2017 2,410 lol how much more stuff is really needed. That game was jam packed with stuff! oh, new cutscenes. Well, enjoy if this is your first time playing.  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,685 Sol C. Johnson said: lol how much more stuff is really needed. That game was jam packed with stuff! Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maybe the director cut stuff down!   SharpX68K Member Nov 10, 2017 11,696 Chicagoland Hopefully the newer games will come in time.   DespiteTheNora Member Jan 30, 2025 1,311 How many releases for this game now? Four, five?   FakePlasticTree Member Jul 24, 2018 13,593 The Persona 4 of the Like a Dragon series   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 40,880 DespiteTheNora said: How many releases for this game now? Four, five? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well: PS3+PS4 at Japanese launch (PS4 localised 2 years after) PC version then done a few years after that Then Xbox version Now the DC for (at least) Switch 2. Guess the whole thing was a DC, not a remake for the Direct... naturally my question is "what is being added/changed". As in my opinion, very little in 0 needs changing (I mean, without rewriting major chunks of the game). Since new cutscenes are a thing, Im gonna need some added Majima cutscenes that smooth his transition to Yakuza 1 better. Also, since its a DC... for the love of Nugget, fix that fucking JCC mini game. You know, so it isnt a rigged POS anymore... Do that, and its a 10/10 for me.  jungius Banned Sep 5, 2021 3,537 I am so happy but they have to make it clear whats been added and will this ported to other platform   convo Member Oct 25, 2017 8,906 DespiteTheNora said: How many releases for this game now? Four, five? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ports aren't different editions of the game. This one has different and new stuff in it.   raketenrolf Banned Oct 28, 2017 5,897 Germany I wanted to replay this and this will be the version I will be playing. My favorite Yakuza game by far.   B4mv Member Nov 2, 2017 3,843 Waiting for more info, but I'm happy to go back to Y0 as it was the first game I played in the series, and now I'm completely caught up.   No Depth Member Oct 27, 2017 20,519 Just played Y0 last year…will just watch new content on YouTube.   SunBroDave "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 14,962 New cutscenes in one of the best story driven games of all time??   DespiteTheNora Member Jan 30, 2025 1,311 convo said: Ports aren't different editions of the game. This one has different and new stuff in it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... So three then? The original release, the remaster and then this game which presumably adds some new stuff?  danmaku Member Nov 5, 2017 3,456 Because if there's something Yakuza 0 needed, it's more cutscenes. But whatever, the game is a classic, enjoy it if you haven't played it yet!  Mesharey Member Dec 7, 2017 3,286 Kuwait Will definitely get it.   DanarchyReigns Member Oct 25, 2017 36,638 I'm surprised they went the Director's Cut route. I figured it would be a remake but this works too. DespiteTheNora said: So three then? The original release, the remaster and then this game which presumably adds some new stuff? Click to expand... Click to shrink... There hasn't been a remaster.   convo Member Oct 25, 2017 8,906 DespiteTheNora said: So three then? The original release, the remaster and then this game which presumably adds some new stuff? Click to expand... Click to shrink... If you count the PS3 releaese as some different edition maybe, but there really isn't anything besides the framerate that distinguishes it and the latest PC version, there isn't a remaster of Yakuza 0. You must be thinking of the remasterd versions of the other PS3 games. Yakuza Kiwami had a port on the switch, and not 0.   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 40,880 danmaku said: Because if there's something Yakuza 0 needed, it's more cutscenes. But whatever, the game is a classic, enjoy it if you haven't played it yet! Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean considering the number of people who are caught out by Majima's change in Yakuza 1 and beyond, yes it needs more cutscenes to explain that better to newbies. DespiteTheNora said: So three then? The original release, the remaster and then this game which presumably adds some new stuff? Click to expand... Click to shrink... 2. Not sure where your pulling "remaster" from but that doesnt exist. Just the original release, and the DC we see here. All versions of 0 are the same until this one.   senj Member Nov 6, 2017 8,531 I knew a full remake of a barely-old and still great game didn't make any damn sense. This approach seems a lot more sane.   DespiteTheNora Member Jan 30, 2025 1,311 convo said: If you count the PS3 releaese as some different edition maybe, but there really isn't anything besides the framerate that distinguishes it and the latest PC version, there isn't a remaster of Yakuza 0. You must be thinking of the remasterd versions of the other PS3 games. Yakuza Kiwami had a port on the switch, and not 0. Click to expand... Click to shrink... DanarchyReigns said: There hasn't been a remaster. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah that's my mistake, I definitely mixed these up. Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread. Apologies.  shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 40,880 senj said: I knew a full remake of a barely-old and still great game didn't make any damn sense. This approach seems a lot more sane. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I dont know, Ishin was a "remake" (though not in the DE) and that was actually less old than 0 at its time of the remakes release... Then again Ishin's remake fucking sucked in so many ways, a DC of the existing 0 is a much smarter move than that at least... but a DE remake would have been more enticing to me. Still, the Switch 2 version can tweak a few things to make me want it even more. Getting the main vocal theme (Bubble) back in the game along with the vocal end credits song would be a start, especially as they managed that for Kiwami on Switch.  CannonFodder52 Member Oct 25, 2017 9,118 Canada I will play through Yakuza 0 every time it's rereleased. I must have like 6 playthroughs so far.   senj Member Nov 6, 2017 8,531 shadowman16 said: I dont know, Ishin was a "remake" (though not in the DE) and that was actually less old than 0 at its time of the remakes release... Then again Ishin's remake fucking sucked in so many ways, a DC of the existing 0 is a much smarter move than that at least... but a DE remake would have been more enticing to me. Still, the Switch 2 version can tweak a few things to make me want it even more. Getting the main vocal theme (Bubble) back in the game along with the vocal end credits song would be a start, especially as they managed that for Kiwami on Switch. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ishin was kind of an excuse to test-drive Unreal from what I understand. Anyways the "didn't make sense" was in particular the idea they would remake it as part of getting more Yakuza onto Switch 2. 0 already looks good generally and runs on lightweight hardware, any remake was almost guaranteed to have steeper hardware requirements (Ishin has kind of crap performance) and therefore probably lead to a worse experience on SW2, so remaking it to get it on there made very little sense.  Cantaim Member Oct 25, 2017 34,950 The Stussining senj said: I knew a full remake of a barely-old and still great game didn't make any damn sense. This approach seems a lot more sane. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The game turned ten years old last month. So I'm sorry to say you can remove "barely".   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 40,880 senj said: Ishin was kind of an excuse to test-drive Unreal from what I understand. Anyways the "didn't make sense" was in particular the idea they would remake it as part of getting more Yakuza onto Switch 2. 0 already looks good generally and runs on lightweight hardware, any remake was almost guaranteed to have steeper hardware requirements (Ishin has kind of crap performance) and therefore probably lead to a worse experience on SW2, so remaking it to get it on there made very little sense. Click to expand... Click to shrink... See, I get your points but they gonna need DE on Switch 2 for Kiwami 2 (which is probably the next game). Plus, while Ive not looked at Switch 2 specs, I assume it should be able to run the DE at least as well as base PS4?  KainXVIII Member Oct 26, 2017 5,471 $90 lfg! /s  Vexii Member Oct 31, 2017 3,040 UK Hoping this releases on PC too   Dooble Member Oct 28, 2017 2,857 Online multiplayer btw I think they are using their experience from SMB Banana Rumble  senj Member Nov 6, 2017 8,531 shadowman16 said: See, I get your points but they gonna need DE on Switch 2 for Kiwami 2 (which is probably the next game). Plus, while Ive not looked at Switch 2 specs, I assume it should be able to run the DE at least as well as base PS4? Click to expand... Click to shrink... At this point by all reports they're moving on from Dragon Engine (hence the Ishin Unreal test drive) so if they were to remake 0 I'm not thinking they'd have picked DE to do it in anyways?   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 40,880 senj said: At this point by all reports they're moving on from Dragon Engine (hence the Ishin Unreal test drive) so if they were to remake 0 I'm not thinking they'd have picked DE to do it in anyways? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Considering current games as of February are still using the DE, that's not true... Until they actually reveal a new engine, Ill be believing they'll be sticking to existing engines... Especially as Ishin was such a technical disaster.   SirFritz Member Jan 22, 2018 2,538 senj said: At this point by all reports they're moving on from Dragon Engine (hence the Ishin Unreal test drive) so if they were to remake 0 I'm not thinking they'd have picked DE to do it in anyways? Click to expand... Click to shrink... They used unreal because they wanted the team to be experienced in using other technology. Super Monkey Ball used unity too.   Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 27,723 Blurb from Nintendo's press site: Yakuza 0 Director's Cut: Discover the decadence and danger of 1988 Japan in Yakuza 0 Director's Cut. The definitive edition of the acclaimed origin story is coming first to Nintendo Switch 2. Players will have to fight through Tokyo and Osaka's entertainment districts as Kazuma Kiryu and Goro Majima in an epic crime drama. With the Director's Cut, players will find deeper insights into character backstories and incidents with never-before-seen cutscenes, plus, the new Red Light Raid online multiplayer mode**. Yakuza 0 Director's Cut launches on Nintendo Switch 2 on launch day. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Tl;dr: "Coming first to Nintendo Switch 2" New cutscenes Red Light Raid online multiplayer mode Key art and screenshots:   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,685 Red Light Raid? what is that?   Coolsambob ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 27, 2017 1,390 Timed exclusive is interesting - if physical ill bite   Cantaim Member Oct 25, 2017 34,950 The Stussining Should have added more mini games smh  

Derbel McDillet ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 23, 2022 23,346 These were always my least favorite part of 3D Mario games. Seeing it more in Uncharted 4 (mostly harmless), Jedi Games (actively put me off the series) as of late and briefly today in Ghost of Yotei (looks harmless in there). View: https://youtu.be/RndMc6n7ky0?si=xGJlKFnzYbpHs6W3 As a reoccurring thing, I'm just wondering who this? Do people actually like it? Do people talk about these mechanics? What's making devs go, we need sliding?  Mirage Member Oct 25, 2017 10,322 Yes, it's a fun change of pace. These sections are usually not overly long either.   LoomianDev Member Apr 14, 2025 36 Why not sometimes?   Pendas Member Oct 28, 2017 6,476 I like when they're not too difficult and done as a fun set piece for spectacle.   Firima Member Oct 27, 2017 4,792 that video was painful to watch, and maybe not in a way that helps the argument. I don't mind them, I just dislike how telegraphed they are, like "oh, slightly steeper incline; lemme guess--oh, yep, there we go, I'm slidin'. I'm a slider now"  Aiqops Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 3, 2021 18,967 Devs, just like us all yearn for SSX, but EA won't provide, so they try to fill the void in any way they can.   defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,286 Austin Sure I'll slide some inclines, it's fun enough as a change up for the few seconds it lasts.   Roubjon Member Oct 25, 2017 3,008 It was magical in Journey. But in most games I feel like its kinda dumb.   MadJosh04 Member Nov 9, 2022 2,529 I normally don't have issues with sliding sections. I usually find them to be thrilling. I haven't played the part of whatever Jedi game that was in the OP, but whoever was playing was pissing me off lol  Bear Member Oct 25, 2017 12,181 Yeah it's fun. I don't remember it being hard in Jedi.   BigHatSean Member Apr 21, 2025 2 In Xenoblade Chronicles, there was a sliding section in Valak Mountain over a pit. If you timed the jump at the end, you got to a different area, if you didn't time it well but still jumped, you ended up elsewhere (I might be wrong about this). I remember cracking up at the speed you picked up. But it was annoying. I can't say I like them much especially if the jump part feels stiff and scripted for the players safety. The dying part can be enjoyable imo. View: https://youtu.be/nZnhPLawMU0   OP OP Derbel McDillet ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 23, 2022 23,346 Firima said: that video was painful to watch, and maybe not in a way that helps the argument. I don't mind them, I just dislike how telegraphed they are, like "oh, slightly steeper incline; lemme guess--oh, yep, there we go, I'm slidin'. I'm a slider now" Click to expand... Click to shrink... I was gonna list multiple examples, but I'm on mobile and the site keeps fighting me.   Magic Mushroom Member Oct 25, 2017 13,249 Mirage said: Yes, it's a fun change of pace. These sections are usually not overly long either. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. I really liked it in Mario and UC4, where it was often combined with jumps and grapple swings.  eXistor Member Oct 27, 2017 13,511 Sure, if it's done sparingly. Variety is always welcome.   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,675 They are peak gaming for me   PucePikmin Member Apr 26, 2018 5,225 Yeah, actually. I almost always find slidey bits kinda fun.   Het_Nkik One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 4,178 They're super fun when done right. Mario 64 slides are some of the most fun areas in the game.   ReticentRobot Member Apr 16, 2021 1,229   ChitonIV Member Nov 14, 2021 4,063 Derbel McDillet said: These were always my least favorite part of 3D Mario games. Seeing it more in Uncharted 4 (mostly harmless), Jedi Games (actively put me off the series) as of late and briefly today in Ghost of Yotei (looks harmless in there). View: https://youtu.be/RndMc6n7ky0?si=xGJlKFnzYbpHs6W3 As a reoccurring thing, I'm just wondering who this? Do people actually like it? Do people talk about these mechanics? What's making devs go, we need sliding? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Tomb Raider 2014 has a few of them.  Sabot Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 31, 2017 3,478 Good when it's a movement mechanic, bad when it's a level design gimmick that only appears when the dev wants it to happen. Sliding down a 3 foot decline and jumping out of it to maintain speed is what I crave.   EvilBoris Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest Verified Oct 29, 2017 17,962 Yah!   GungHo Member Nov 27, 2017 7,537 I didn't have near the problems as the person in that video with that section.   Hello Snake Member Nov 25, 2020 2,829 Canada I recently played some in Jedi Survivor and Jak & Daxter Precursor Legacy, I don't mind them at all. If Jak didn't have a rewind feature for when I missed a collectible on the way down then it might have been annoying.  Vincent Grayson Member Oct 27, 2017 7,198 Mount Airy, MD I don't usually mind it, but I swear there's so many inclines in the new Assassin's Creed that randomly are or aren't going to make you slide down them (mostly in the natural environment), and it drove me nuts until I gave up and just focused on using the paths most of the time.   HonestAbe Member May 19, 2020 2,143 You call it sliding. I call it skiing....(Tribes)   Pyro God help us the mods are making weekend threads Member Jul 30, 2018 18,475 United States I wish more games had sliding sections!   Astral Member Oct 27, 2017 33,173 Don't inclines go up?   KKStrider Member Oct 10, 2024 1,602 I remember it being a complete non issue (and even fun) in the Jedi games lol. I've literally never thought about this before. I'm fine with it.  Dogui Member Oct 28, 2017 10,697 Brazil ReticentRobot said: Took me decades to be aware that you could kill enemies by sliding in Mario games lol  DontHateTheBacon Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 27, 2017 14,157 A sequence of it can be fun, more than that and it gets really annoying fast.   Shiz Padoo Member Oct 13, 2018 7,711 Love it! I played the Steel Seed demo yesterday and it was full of incline sliding.   Kirksplosion Member Aug 21, 2018 2,621 I don't have strong feelings about the mechanic, but they range from, "Hey, this is fun" to "This again?"  

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Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,373 Ibis Island Release Date: April 24, 2025 Platforms: Xbox Series, PS5, PC Price: $49.99 ($44.99 Launch Discount), Deluxe $59.99 ($53.99 Launch Discount) [Physical Available] *Day One on Xbox Game Pass Ult. View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKdgRCYqPs&pp=ygUpY2xhaXIgb2JzY3VyIGV4cGVkaXRpb24gMzMgbGF1bmNoIHRyYWlsZXI%3D Once a year, the Paintress wakes and paints upon her monolith. Paints her cursed number. And everyone of that age turns to smoke and fades away. Year by year, that number ticks down and more of us are erased. Tomorrow she'll wake and paint "33." And tomorrow we depart on our final mission - Destroy the Paintress, so she can never paint death again. We are Expedition 33. Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a ground-breaking turn-based RPG with unique real-time mechanics, making battles more immersive and addictive than ever. Explore a fantasy world inspired by Belle Époque France in which you battle devastating enemies. In this evolution of JRPGs, real-time actions enhance the heart of turn-based combat. Craft unique builds for your Expeditioners that fit your playstyle via gear, stats, skills, and character synergies. Open an active dimension in combat - dodge, parry, and counter in real time, chain combos by mastering attack rhythms, and target enemy weak points using a free aim system. With only one year left to live, join Gustave, Maelle, and their fellow Expeditioners as they embark upon a desperate quest to break the Paintress' cycle of death. Follow the trail of previous expeditions and discover their fate. Get to know the members of Expedition 33 as they learn to work together against impossible odds. Explore an enchanting realm populated by surreal adversaries. Wander through breathtaking landscapes, from the Island of Visages to the Forgotten Battlefield, discovering secrets and hidden quests along the way. Find allies of fortune in creatures of legend. Recruit special companions to access new travel methods and discover secret areas in the World Map. Experience the debut game from Sandfall Interactive, fully realized in Unreal Engine 5 with stunning graphics and a heartbreaking soundtrack. Deluxe Edition Contents Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Base Game The "Flowers" Collection - Six outfits and hairstyles inspired by the Flowers of Lumière, along with six additional "Gommage" outfit variations. One for each playable character. "Clair" - A custom outfit for Maelle "Obscur" - A custom outfit for Gustave Click to expand... Click to shrink... View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_71EEIXpJg  Last edited: Yesterday at 5:58 PM alfynn Member Sep 27, 2024 67 Germany Great OT, Thursday can't come soon enough   Chanser Member Oct 27, 2017 3,446 Pre-ordered mine for PC.   Chaserjoey Keeper of the White Materia Member Oct 27, 2017 9,756 24 hours till I pick the game up. Really hoping it's good :)   Kadzork Has got mad skills!! Member Oct 27, 2017 23,695 I am really tempted to get this but am I alone in thinking the camera movement in combat feels a bit much? Maybe it just looks that way from preview footage going through fights very quickly.  Mephissto Member Mar 8, 2024 1,029 Can't wait. Hope my copy arrives on time.   Kurumi Shinra Employee Member Oct 26, 2017 1,430 Can't wait to play this. Just waiting for CDKeys to send me my key for the deluxe edition.   Punished Dan Member Oct 27, 2017 4,512 Looks really intriguing. Will definitely get round to playing it.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 29,797 FYI it's 24% off on Game Billet for a Steam Code ($38.09 and 45.74, respectively) https://www.gamebillet.com/search?q=Clair+Obscur%3A+Expedition+33   Swearing.circle Member Mar 19, 2020 2,060 Have high hopes for this one. Looks brilliant.   shodgson8 Shinra Employee Member Aug 22, 2018 5,145 Taking a punt on this on PC due to finding a copy at a good price. Hoping it is good & runs acceptably!   Tuorom Member Oct 30, 2017 11,501 Mon corps est prêt   Smoolio Avenger Oct 25, 2017 4,258 Can't wait   Hadok Member Feb 14, 2018 6,465 Kadzork said: I am really tempted to get this but am I alone in thinking the camera movement in combat feels a bit much? Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah i don't like it.  the magical kitsune Member Oct 27, 2017 5,113   Chaserjoey Keeper of the White Materia Member Oct 27, 2017 9,756 Had a look at the trophy list, doesn't seem too bad though there's some that make me think they'll be tricky from the description looks like there's some optional bosses and an "endless" tower, and defeating a boss without taking damage could be tricky   Earvin Infinity Member Oct 27, 2017 7,361 super-famicom said: FYI it's 24% off on Game Billet for a Steam Code ($38.09 and 45.74, respectively) https://www.gamebillet.com/search?q=Clair+Obscur%3A+Expedition+33 Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also at GMG for $35.99 / $43.19. They're sending codes out now as well.  Keiriks Omicron Persei 8 Logic Member Aug 19, 2021 9,411 Reykjavík, Iceland bonjour mademoiselle   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 29,797 Earvin Infinity said: Also at GMG for $35.99 / $43.19. They're sending codes out now as well. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Even better, thanks for the heads up. Didn't see GMG listed on isthereanydeal.  FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,277 Tokyo Waiting for reviews before I bite   Game Fan Member Oct 25, 2017 1,192 Brazil Preloaded on Series X. I'll be up at 4am to play when It unlocks.   TheChungusAmongUs Member Oct 25, 2017 14,427 the magical kitsune said: Putting Ben Starr in your game increases my desire to play it by 50%  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,408 Already got my Steam copy installed.   NabiscoFelt One Winged Slayer Member Aug 15, 2019 8,448 Let's goooo Hoping the game reviews well and miraculously decides to run well on Deck (otherwise I guess I'll get it on PS5)  Kane Member Oct 28, 2017 1,165 Any word about the length of the game?   NabiscoFelt One Winged Slayer Member Aug 15, 2019 8,448 Kane said: Any word about the length of the game? Click to expand... Click to shrink... According to the devs and some early reviewers apparently, 30-40 for main story, 60 for 100%   FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,277 Tokyo Kane said: Any word about the length of the game? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Took Mort 60 hours to get everything. Devs say game is around 30 to 40.  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,780 Spain High hopes for this one. Even if it's not perfect, it looks right up my alley and I'd love to support such an ambitious project from a new team.   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,408 Kane said: Any word about the length of the game? Click to expand... Click to shrink... 30-40 hours, and the "I beat every game 100%" guy said it took him around 60 hours to do everything.  E.Balboa Member Oct 30, 2017 2,840 Florianópolis, Brazil I'm not into Jrpgs but this looks so damn interesting that I'll sure try it on Gamepass. Not sure about Ms releasing Oblivion a few days earlier tho. I would've thought they'd give it more time to breathe.  thankyoumerzbow Prophet of Truth Member Dec 8, 2020 11,921 im not playing it on day one but im really looking forward to it.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 29,797 FF Seraphim said: Waiting for reviews before I bite Click to expand... Click to shrink... Same, it looks nice but I have quite a few games I'm already playing right now.  Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,166 Washington, D.C. Bought on Steam. I am soooo ready   FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,277 Tokyo super-famicom said: Same, it looks nice but I have quite a few games I'm already playing right now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Indeed my backlog is massive but I want to support devs who make good games, so we keep getting them.   KyouG Member Oct 26, 2017 619 Really excited for this; looking forward to playing through it in French. Didn't realize it was developed by a small French developer till today~   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,408 btw if you speak french, probably don't read the lyrics on the Youtube soundtrack sample. The lines aren't, like, DIRECT spoilers, but I'm getting some pretty strict vibes from some of them that definitely lead my screenwriter brain down some particular roads.  Nida Member Aug 31, 2019 14,848 Everett, Washington When is the review embargo? It's on GP so I'll try regardless, just curious?   Shift Breaker Member Oct 25, 2017 3,182 Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is a ground-breaking turn-based RPG with unique real-time mechanics, making battles more immersive and addictive than ever. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Close enough, welcome back Paper Mario.   TheChungusAmongUs Member Oct 25, 2017 14,427 Greywaren said: High hopes for this one. Even if it's not perfect, it looks right up my alley and I'd love to support such an ambitious project from a new team. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Where I am. Even if its not a slam dunk, what they've shown just absolutely looks like my shit that I will be there no matter what.  tucah Member Oct 25, 2017 1,470 Been leaning towards grabbing it either way to support a team that clearly has at least a vision for games/RPGs that align with mine but waiting on reviews to see if I need to fit it in alongside Hundred Line.   Contranova Member Oct 26, 2017 465 NYC I already have pre-ordered for PS5. I've been on media blackout the last couple of months (I've only seen the initial release trailer) so I'm so excited to experience this game! I hope RPG fans support this regardless of the reviews!  Papercuts Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 12,546 This looks so fucking good, can't wait to dig in.   dodo667418 Knights of Favonius World Tour '21 Member Oct 28, 2017 1,929 Really excited for this one. I'm curious about reviews and I will likely give it a try via GamePass anyway, might buy it on Steam to play later though. I'm still busy finishing the behemoth that is The Hundred Line Last Defense Academy, I'm still not done with the two Suikoden's, still haven't finished my PC run of TLOU2. I'm hoping this one is good though, so I'd put it next in line to play over the Summer.   SilentiousBeing Member Sep 10, 2020 1,502 Gamepass spoiling us this year. Can't wait!   Nakenorm "This guy are sick" The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 26,813 Nida said: When is the review embargo? It's on GP so I'll try regardless, just curious? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Tomorrow   Daramir Member Jan 20, 2022 1,539 Germany Great OT, OP. I pre ordered but I still hope it reviews well. The dev team seem to have put a lot of work into it.   GodlyTwins It's Pronounced "Aerith" Member Oct 30, 2017 327 Can't wait to get my hands on it  AgentLampshade Sweet Commander Member Oct 25, 2017 15,716 I'm off work next week and I'm thinking of picking this up. Going to follow impressions closely whilst trying to stay as blind to the story as possible.   Rainy Member Oct 25, 2017 17,932 Based on what people are hinting I'm guessing this will review really well. High 80s on MC/OC. Already preordered.  J_ToSaveTheDay "This guy are sick" and Corrupted by Vengeance Avenger Oct 25, 2017 22,244 USA This is one I'm really hoping is good. I'm really looking forward to impressions from day 1 buyers in this OT to help me decide the level of urgency of when I will try this out myself (but I am pretty much inevitably going to play it myself already -- just a matter of determining WHEN).  

RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,364 Source here [Update 22/04/25] While our initial pixel counts of Street Fighter 6 during the Switch 2 Nintendo Direct reveal pointed to a native 1080p based on limited footage, the more recent Nintendo Treehouse feed shows a scale from a native 960x540 to a 1080p target using an AI upscaling method - with evidence suggesting Nvidia's DLSS based on this footage. Looking back, this 540p upscale appears to be in place in the original Direct footage as well. It's a remarkably clean scale in most shots, with the first few frames following a camera cut being one way to catch the base resolution from its docked mode play. We'll be sure to report back once we have more information. Click to expand... Click to shrink... IMO it looks better than the Xbox Series S version just in terms of final image quality resolve (excluding whatever settings differences there are), which is remarkable considering the XSS runs at 1080p native I am officially back on the DLSS Switch 2 hype bandwagon. I apologize for being a doubter previously Here's a good video comparing the Switch 2 version to XSS from ElAnalistaDeBits: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKaQpYNSjA EDIT: The XSS version is bugged so that could explain why the Switch 2 version looks this favorable in comparison: https://www.resetera.com/threads/df...ly-clean-image-quality.1170750/post-138901698  Last edited: Today at 5:56 PM RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 17,991 This seemed pretty obvious because it looked noticeably sharper than the PS4 version. Nice to know the suspicions were confirmed. I think the only other suspect game people were thinking of might've been DK?   MacheteSquadSteve Member Jan 6, 2025 188 Very encouraging if the result can be repeated elsewhere.   Reflecting Sky Member Mar 17, 2024 2,466 It bodes very well for future software. I mean, you render at a lower internal resolution which saves a lot of memory, while upscaling doesn't cost too much. Best kind of compromise if you think about it.   logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,139 540p is incredibly low res for docked but nice that they couldn't tell the difference. This does tell me that 4k and 1440p upscaled is gonna be hard for games that are not specifically designed for the system.   Last edited: Today at 4:11 PM JusDoIt ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 42,997 South Central it's lower res than the PS5 and PC versions, but it actually appears to be rendering more character detail. in terms of hair and skin textures.   Lant_War Classic Anus Game The Fallen Jul 14, 2018 25,101 It's weird to me they didn't notice when it looks so much cleaner than the XSS or PS4 version. Like to the naked eye it's a big difference.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,790 We are in for a treat if 540p upscale looks like this on first gen launch games running at 60fps. Hope this will sht down naysayers that were coming up with reasons why DLSS couldnt be used on Switch 2 games.  Buddy Member Oct 25, 2017 1,395 Germany So SF6 does infact use DLSS....I knew it. SF6 has better IQ on switch 2 than the PS4 or the series s version. DLSS is really magic. Rendering in 540p, upscaling it to 1080p and managing to look better is quite the achievement. On the other hand I hoped the switch 2 is powerful enough to get "PS4-like" visuals before DLSS, not after.... for first gen third party games this is ok I guess but I hope we get to see better in the future.  JuniperAndSage Member Dec 27, 2019 6,890 Seattle Wild how many people convinced themselves there was no DLSS working/shown on the system.   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 33,521 This is why native resolutions can be considered a waste. Impressive.  oufwid Member Jan 2, 2018 50 JuniperAndSage said: Wild how many people convinced themselves there was no DLSS working/shown on the system. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Isn't it the best demonstration that DLSS implementation on Switch 2 is great? So great that no one can't tell the difference with native resolution.   dreamfall Member Oct 25, 2017 7,232 That is so fucking brilliant, DLSS on Switch 2 could be incredible !   Moara ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 25,765 Hope they patch DLSS into the PC version as well   PLASTICA-MAN Member Oct 26, 2017 28,720 Wow from such low base resolution and yet the IQ is this good? DLSS is really a monster. We need to know what exact version they are using. In the Ryu comparison, we can see his face pores and his eyes much clearer. This is just the beginning. Now I want to see how they can handle Fortnite and other UE5 games.  cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,790 oufwid said: Isn't it the best demonstration that DLSS implementation on Switch 2 is great? So great that no one can't tell the difference with native resolution. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, thats how its supposed to be. Switch 2 will continue the Switch philosophy of punching way above his weight class thanks to this.  mrzenga Member Jan 2, 2025 248 jroc74 said: This is why native resolutions can be considered a waste. Impressive. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeap. This is a huge aha moment now. It changes how people will think about resolution etc  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,780 Spain If you can barely tell the difference between lower resolution + DLSS and native resolution, I'd call it a huge success.   OGlol Member Jun 4, 2018 1,895 Reminder that DLSS implementation is game by game, i've seen some terrible instances of it on PC.   poptire Avatar Wrecking Crew The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 14,808 Can't wait to see what they can do with this hardware around year 3.   RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 17,991 Greywaren said: If you can barely tell the difference between lower resolution + DLSS and native resolution, I'd call it a huge success. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep, and honestly that people couldn't immediately tell it was DLSS is a testament to how well it's being implemented by Capcom here. No noticeable artifacts. Definitely should patch the PC version for support too  Buddy Member Oct 25, 2017 1,395 Germany I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Hogwarts also uses DLSS. Digital Foundry mentioned it renders in lower res than the PS4 but manages to look cleaner/better.... Turns out DLSS is a integral part of switch 2 game development and I love to see it..... big fan of the tech.  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 19,695 So much for all the doomposting about the Switch 2 somehow not being able to use DLSS lol   J_ToSaveTheDay "This guy are sick" and Corrupted by Vengeance Avenger Oct 25, 2017 22,242 USA Very cool. I am now planning to grab this alongside Mario Kart at launch, and I hope the sales figures are high enough worldwide that Capcom doesn't have any reason to drop support for it over the remaining lifetime of Street Fighter 6.   Neoleo2143 Member Oct 27, 2017 3,598 DLSS really is kind of a miracle at this point in time. Probably will fall off later but wow does it provide such a strong benefit.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,790 poptire said: Can't wait to see what they can do with this hardware around year 3. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Whatever Monolith is cooking right now, will be a feast considering what they managed on the freaking Wii, WiiU and Switch.   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 33,521 Buddy said: So SF6 does infact use DLSS....I knew it. SF6 has better IQ on switch 2 than the PS4 or the series s version. DLSS is really magic. Rendering in 540p, upscaling it to 1080p and managing to look better is quite the achievement. On the other hand I hoped the switch 2 is powerful enough to get "PS4-like" visuals before DLSS, not after.... for first gen third party games this is ok I guess but I hope we get to see better in the future. Click to expand... Click to shrink... 2 things: This is what many tried to tell ppl with regards to PSSR on the PS5 Pro. If the upscaling tech is allowing it to look good from a lower resolution....that bodes well for future use. MS is gonna have to get in on the upcoming upscaling war on consoles ASAP, lol.  Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 92,882 Houston, TX Hopefully this means that the PC version of SF6 will get DLSS in the Season 3 update. Same for PSSR with PS5 Pro.   Last edited: Today at 4:29 PM SwitchDeck Member Feb 5, 2025 380 Definitely bodes well for the future How does it work then, if they lower the resolution and upscale via DLSS, does that mean they can add/keep more graphical effects/character details/better textures to the game versus having to have a higher native resolution?  Tora The Enlightened Wise Ones Member Jun 17, 2018 8,960 Surprised that quite a few casual users speculated DLSS but DF couldn't get it. No slight on their part, just interesting that it took this long!   Friendly Bear Member Jan 11, 2019 3,453 I Don’t Care Where (Just Far) DLSS on Switch 2, FSR4 and/or upgraded PSSR coming to Pro/PS6/Next-Box… This is awesome. Top tier upscaling on consoles is right around the corner.  Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 92,882 Houston, TX Buddy said: So SF6 does infact use DLSS....I knew it. SF6 has better IQ on switch 2 than the PS4 or the series s version. DLSS is really magic. Rendering in 540p, upscaling it to 1080p and managing to look better is quite the achievement. On the other hand I hoped the switch 2 is powerful enough to get "PS4-like" visuals before DLSS, not after.... for first gen third party games this is ok I guess but I hope we get to see better in the future. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They probably very easily could've, but might as well use DLSS if you have it if it results in a better image. Plus rendering at a lower base resolution could help with input latency.   Miker Member Oct 25, 2017 3,529 Would kill for DLSS in SF6. That game's image quality is ass unless you brute force it in the .ini, and even then it's bad.   Duxxy3 Member Oct 27, 2017 24,514 USA I used 1080p quality DLSS for years. In most cases I thought it looked like shit. 1440p quality DLSS on the other hand looks really good. Anyhow, given the choice between native 1080p and 1080 DLSS Quality I almost always chose native. Even with the performance hit.  poptire Avatar Wrecking Crew The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 14,808 cw_sasuke said: Whatever Monolith is cooking right now, will be a feast considering what they managed on the freaking Wii, WiiU and Switch. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, they're gonna make some magical stuff on Switch 2. What I'm most excited about is the fidelity we're able to achieve with relatively super low power consumption. I wish that were the future for the entire industry. Try to use as little power as possible to produce great looking games with good fps.  Mass Effect One Winged Slayer Member Oct 31, 2017 19,000 jroc74 said: This is why native resolutions can be considered a waste. Impressive. Click to expand... Click to shrink... No one ever had an issue with upscaling; it was bad techniques that were the problem. Things like poor, ghosty TAA or FSR1 & 2 (or DLSS1). DLSS has been the gold standard since 2.  ArchedThunder Uncle Beerus Member Oct 25, 2017 21,102 Tora said: Surprised that quite a few casual users speculated DLSS but DF couldn't get it. No slight on their part, just interesting that it took this long! Click to expand... Click to shrink... No offense to the DF crew, but them originally saying there was no evidence of DLSS being used in any games was bizzare to me. You can see the attributes and artifacts of DLSS in multiple 3rd party games. Terf Wizard game is almost certainly using DLSS as well for example.   JusDoIt ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 42,997 South Central Miker said: Would kill for DLSS in SF6. That game's image quality is ass unless you brute force it in the .ini, and even then it's bad. Click to expand... Click to shrink... it's hoping/coping that they bring it to other platforms with the June 5th patch  KanjoBazooie ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 26, 2017 32,402 Chicago they cooked Miker said: Would kill for DLSS in SF6. That game's image quality is ass unless you brute force it in the .ini, and even then it's bad. Click to expand... Click to shrink... wow, the PC version doesn't have DLSS? Neoxon said: Hopefully this means that the PC version of SF6 will get DLSS in the Season 3 update. Same for PSSR with PS5 Pro. Click to expand... Click to shrink... hopefully the implementation of it in the Switch 2 version leads to this  Charamiwa Member Oct 25, 2017 6,398 This footage has been available for nearly 3 weeks now. With DLSS being such a hot topic it's surprising DF was blindsided for this long.   Juryvicious Member Oct 28, 2017 8,056 Reading this has made my day. This will.be a day 1 purchase. Can't wait! DF crew jumped the gun way to early.  Hero One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 8,678 Lol so after all that hub bub, now they admit it? I enjoy DF but man the conversation around tech has changed in a lot of ways for the worse because of them.   nekomix Member Oct 30, 2017 516 That's why I never understood why so many here take DF as gospel.   Saty Member Oct 27, 2017 650 How is this positive news that the game actually isn't dedicating resources for native 1080p rendering yet still has the graphical makeup most akin to the PS4?   FantasticToma Member Sep 21, 2024 1,958 Germany cw_sasuke said: We are in for a treat if 540p upscale looks like this on first gen launch games running at 60fps. Hope this will sht down naysayers that were coming up with reasons why DLSS couldnt be used on Switch 2 games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... But this is for docked mode, right? We'd need DLSS up to 1080p for handheld-mode. Phew.  th1nk Member Nov 6, 2017 9,302 really weird reporting on this matter   Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 92,882 Houston, TX Saty said: How is this positive news that the game actually isn't dedicating resources for native 1080p rendering yet still has the graphical makeup most akin to the PS4? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Like I said, it's working smarter rather than harder. I'm sure they could've hit 1080p natively, but this helps keep the system cooler (great for tournaments) & potentially cut down on input latency while still giving a good image result.   Steve782 Member Sep 11, 2024 17 Charamiwa said: This footage has been available for nearly 3 weeks now. With DLSS being such a hot topic it's surprising DF was blindsided for this long. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm so freaking happy 540p upscaled to 1080p looking this good, all while many people debating the usage of DLSS.. overall I'm beyond excited I think the future for Switch 2 ports is looking to be shaping up to be truly something remarkable  Ephonk Avenger Oct 25, 2017 2,440 Belgium SwitchDeck said: Definitely bodes well for the future How does it work then, if they lower the resolution and upscale via DLSS, does that mean they can add/keep more graphical effects/character details/better textures to the game versus having to have a higher native resolution? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It means they can render at a low resolution (4x lower is generally considered the maximum before you get too many artifacts). In theory that would also mean you can get 4 times as much performance - although that isn't really true because some calculations and stuff stay the same regardless of resolution. On top of that there is a "render cost" for DLSS, don't know the exact calculation, but for example: for a 60 fps game you need to render your frame in 16 ms, and DLSS can take up 3-4 ms of that. That leaves you with a lower rendering budget per frame. So DLSS is a wonderful solution, but you need to adjust everything accordingly to make it work, and it might not work for all games.  cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,790 Charamiwa said: This footage has been available for nearly 3 weeks now. With DLSS being such a hot topic it's surprising DF was blindsided for this long. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It feel like a lot of media disregards stuff that has been shown or announced through Treehouse Live. It seems a bit weird, guess they would rather be hands on instead of getting the Information from these streams. FantasticToma said: But this is for docked mode, right? We'd need DLSS up to 1080p for handheld-mode. Phew. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, lets hope so. From what ivsee i thin Raido Remaster also is targeting 1080p in both modes. We had a couple Switch 1 game sthat targeted 720p in both modes as well. Might just be easier to optimize for that for games at launch. I totally can see future upgrades resulting in 1440p on the big screen. In the end its the first DLSS experience for the SF VI and a launch title. 

RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,364 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered on Steam Explore Cyrodiil like never before with stunning new visuals and refined gameplay in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion™ Remastered. store.steampowered.com System Requirements Minimum: Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system OS: Windows 10 64-bit Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, Intel Core i7-6800K Memory: 16 GB RAM Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti DirectX: Version 12 Storage: 125 GB available space Recommended: Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system OS: Windows 10 64-bit Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, Intel Core i5-10600K Memory: 32 GB RAM Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 6800XT or NVIDIA RTX 2080 DirectX: Version 12 Storage: 125 GB available space When posting how the game runs on your rig please include the following: PC specs including: CPU, amount of RAM, GPU, if game is running on SSD, and if you are using Gsync/Freesync. All in game settings (screenshots or type it out) FPS being experienced with the setup/settings posted above. Since it's become such a huge issue on PC games please post if you are experiencing any stuttering.   Terbinator Member Oct 29, 2017 13,116 Oblivion RemastutterStruggle   newphoria Skimreading Aficionado Member Nov 20, 2024 439 Would this game have ultrawide support?   MacheteSquadSteve Member Jan 6, 2025 188 Installing now, won't be able to play until lunch. Will capture the opening sequence with CapFrameX.   Custódio Member Oct 25, 2017 2,094 Brazil, Unaí/MG Probably not fit for the Steam Deck, right?   Shokunin Member Oct 25, 2017 7,061 The city beautiful Just here to see if there is native ultra wide support.   Punished Dan Member Oct 27, 2017 4,512 Custódio said: Probably not fit for the Steam Deck, right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Be interesting to know and I'd also like to see how the Legion Go fares with it too.  OryxTheBakinKing Member Feb 4, 2018 1,905 newphoria said: Would this game have ultrawide support? Click to expand... Click to shrink... The original game has UW support so I'd be shocked if it isn't on offer here   Toiletduck Member Dec 10, 2017 1,822 Custódio said: Probably not fit for the Steam Deck, right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It shows as verified on the Steam page. I'm surprised considering the PC requirements.   Zurch Member Sep 23, 2023 264 OryxTheBakinKing said: The original game has UW support so I'd be shocked if it isn't on offer here Click to expand... Click to shrink... Wait so Bethesda went BACKWARDS with UW support in Fallout 4?   xpownz ▲ Legend ▲ Member Feb 13, 2020 2,873 hovering on recommended specs, hopefully it is a good 1080p experience   hlhbk Member Oct 25, 2017 3,604 I'll be watching this thread. I'll be buying on steam if it runs well. I have my concerns with it being unreal 5.   TheTrain Member Oct 27, 2017 643 Custódio said: Probably not fit for the Steam Deck, right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's Verified on Deck, we'll see in a couple of hours i guess   Frankie MacDonald Member Jun 15, 2024 43 Shader preloading :-)   Spinky Member Oct 25, 2017 5,585 London Can't wait for the stutters   Pimienta Member Oct 25, 2017 1,947 I'm keeping a real close eye on this thread. Depending on the perfomance it is a must buy for me or a get in a few years type of deal.   Cugel ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 7, 2017 4,662 Steam Deck verified? Willing to take the risk. Bought!  Doskoi Panda One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 17,060 A PC performance thread? That must mean that the game runs terrible on PC. ~ person who doesn't game on PC Bout to boot this up, just finished installing.  Ruck Member Oct 25, 2017 2,968 UE5 games have a reputation for being stuttery right? I hope that isn't true here but I'm waiting until we know for sure   Freelance Brian Member Oct 25, 2017 2,154 Got 5 more minutes on my download   JonnyDBrit God and Anime Member Oct 25, 2017 12,923 Downloading via Game Pass right now, so should be able to give some impressions soon. Running an Ryzen 7 5800X, RTX 3080, and 32GB of DDR4   hlhbk Member Oct 25, 2017 3,604 Ruck said: UE5 games have a reputation for being stuttery right? I hope that isn't true here but I'm waiting until we know for sure Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sadly they do. That's why I'm holding of on my purchase until I see results.  construct Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Jun 5, 2020 10,875 𖦹 i have a feeling this game will perform pretty well   Frankie MacDonald Member Jun 15, 2024 43 Real quick on settings—FOV sliders, up scaling including frame gen, ray tracing   Oreoleo Avenger Oct 25, 2017 2,249 Ohio UE5's reputation for stutter is the only reason I didn't insta-buy this. Eagerly awaiting impressions.   Duffking Banned Oct 27, 2017 6,593 UE5 as a render layer only might make this run a bit better than expected as it should be quite lightweight underneath all the bells and whistles still. Fingers crossed.   Belvedere Member Oct 27, 2017 2,850 Need to know about loading screens lol.   Toiletduck Member Dec 10, 2017 1,822 I have an RTX 2070 laptop with 16GB of ram/9750h i7. Not sure if I want to get this on my laptop or PS5. Decisions... I know if I go the laptop route, I'll likely be playing this on slow settings, 1080p.   logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,138 Oh good, a place to complain about stutter. I am at 38% on my download. I don't have high expectations for performance but also, I really want this to run well.   Danim Member Oct 26, 2017 537 Hoping for the best, expecting the worst. If this is one of the rare UE5 games that doesn't run like dog eggs I'm definitely picking this up.   Toiletduck Member Dec 10, 2017 1,822 Frankie MacDonald said: Real quick on settings—FOV sliders, up scaling including frame gen, ray tracing Click to expand... Click to shrink... DLSS?   Ramathevoice Member Oct 26, 2017 3,445 Paris, France This is going to be a stuttery mess, isn't it?   Frankie MacDonald Member Jun 15, 2024 43 Toiletduck said: Yes.  Raigor Member May 14, 2020 16,009 MS UE games have performed always well compared to other UE titles, but this one is Bethesda, let's see and hope for the best.   KeyboardThug Member Oct 27, 2017 319 Wide screen support?   Carian Knight Member Oct 27, 2017 2,136 Turkey newphoria said: Would this game have ultrawide support? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I hope both the game and cutscenes are also supported. I hate UW supported games having also pillarboxed cutscenes. (Assuming there are cutscenes, I haven't played the original despite my old ass age - 33)  Freelance Brian Member Oct 25, 2017 2,154 Shader compilation step taking a while on my i7 12700K   ApexNorth Member Oct 27, 2017 1,232 Do we know what the resolution is for recommended?   Mr Swine The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 6,883 Sweden Does it have FSR 3.1/4 support?   shodgson8 Shinra Employee Member Aug 22, 2018 5,145 Ramathevoice said: This is going to be a stuttery mess, isn't it? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Potentially. It is why I haven't picked it up yet. Really looking forward to hearing impressions.  data Member Oct 25, 2017 5,269 Barely meet the minimum let's gooo   shodgson8 Shinra Employee Member Aug 22, 2018 5,145 Freelance Brian said: Shader compilation step taking a while on my i7 12700K Click to expand... Click to shrink... To be fair, good to hear there is shader compilation!  Freelance Brian Member Oct 25, 2017 2,154 shodgson8 said: To be fair, good to hear there is shader compilation! Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah, hopefully it eliminates all shader comp stutter   hlhbk Member Oct 25, 2017 3,604 Carian Knight said: I hope both the game and cutscenes are also supported. I hate UW supported games having also pillarboxed cutscenes. (Assuming there are cutscenes, I haven't played the original despite my old ass age - 33) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not many cutscenes. Also 33 old lmao. I am 43.  Ramathevoice Member Oct 26, 2017 3,445 Paris, France shodgson8 said: Potentially. It is why I haven't picked it up yet. Really looking forward to hearing impressions. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Then again, now that I think about it, Avowed was UE5 and honestly wasn't too bad outside of some traversal stutter.   Mr X Avenger Oct 25, 2017 1,306 Virginia / US Following the thread with great interest over the next couple days 🤞   Frankie MacDonald Member Jun 15, 2024 43 At least, in the opening sequence I'm getting 120 fps locked with no stutters at 4K on a 5090. Trying to rush to get outdoors.  Cats_Schrodinger Member Oct 29, 2017 3,984 I hope lumen and nanite is in, especially nanite foliage.   Zexen Member Oct 27, 2017 556 Shader compiling right now. 7900x - 32 GB - 3090. CPU barely doing anything, 50% comp in 10 minutes, more or less. EDIT: Finished when it reached 53% or so. Weird.  Skel1ingt0n Member Oct 28, 2017 11,253 Frankie MacDonald said: At least, in the opening sequence I'm getting 120 fps locked with no stutters at 4K on a 5090. Trying to rush to get outdoors. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Good to hear a $3K GPU can handle it!! /s ;p I'm kidding. Legit good to hear that it DOES handle it... means at the very least this is probably somewhat decently optimized if you have the hardware. Let's see how it scales down. 

signal Member Oct 28, 2017 42,956 Hackers are Injecting Mass Shooting Videos Into Random StarCraft 2 Matches Players are reporting seeing graphic videos and hate symbols hacked into the game. www.404media.co Reddit - I saw a mass shooting video in a SC2 Arcade game An exploit in Activision-Blizzard's popular real-time strategy game StarCraft II is allowing people to inject disturbing videos into multiplayer matches and show them to other players without warning, according to several accounts in the StarCraft II community and one player who talked to 404 Media. Some of the videos people said they saw in game include real footage of a mass shooting in a supermarket and a video with rapidly flashing lights, seemingly an attempt to trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy. Click to expand... Click to shrink... "We loaded up with a few regulars and some randos who I didn't know," a user named Tad0422, who saw one of these videos said, said on Reddit. Tad0422 said they were playing a custom map called Monobattles, which is shared via Starcraft II Arcade, an official hub for sharing custom StarCraft maps. "About 3 min a video appeared on my screen. I have never seen this before but it took up the whole screen. It was a Russian pop video or something that played for 20 seconds or so. Most of us were talking in chat about what the heck was happening." "Then about a minute later a video pops up with a guy entering a store with a [StarCraft user interface] over the video and ghost emotes playing," Tad0422 continued. "I was talking with the others in the game trying to figure out what was going on. I then realize he is murdering people and shooting people in the head. At this moment I freak out and hard close out of [StarCraft II]. My 5 year old daughter was in the room with me, half paying attention to me playing a video game." Click to expand... Click to shrink... After Tad0422's post got some attention on Reddit, other players chimed in to say that they've had similar in-game experiences in StarCraft II over the last year. In the same Reddit thread, one user said he saw an "epileptic screamer," referring to a kind of jumpscare video with rapidly flashing images. A couple of days ago, a user on the official StarCraft II forums said they saw a swastika appear on screen during a game, and another Reddit user reported seeing the same. Posts on Reddit and the official forums that are now a year old say that some games, all in the Arcade mode, crash the client entirely. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Looks like some code injection issue for Arcade mode. Heads up to anyone playing.  AgentStrange Member Oct 25, 2017 4,936 Eww. What the hell is wrong with people?   808s & Villainy Member Oct 27, 2017 46,265 but why   Kadzork Has got mad skills!! Member Oct 27, 2017 23,688 I swear to fucking god humanity needs a reset button.   Tbm24 Member Oct 25, 2017 22,399 People fucking suck.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,789 When you expect the nothing from humanity and they still continue manage to disappoint you.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 29,788 What the fuck   Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 27,708 Humanity was a mistake   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,150 Washington, D.C. Trash ass human beings   blueredandgold Member Oct 25, 2017 8,448 I remember epilepsy inducing images actually being sic'd on and causing episodes for people during the earlier days of tweeter's decline. Can only hope Acti-Blizz bother to deal with it.   Eternala Member Oct 6, 2024 1,080 Okay seriously, I think we've just reached a point where humanity is fucked beyond repair.  

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Mattmo831 Featuring Mattmo831 from the Apple v Epic case Member Oct 26, 2020 6,418 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered on Steam Explore Cyrodiil like never before with stunning new visuals and refined gameplay in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion™ Remastered. store.steampowered.com Buy The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered | Xbox Explore Cyrodiil like never before with stunning new visuals and refined gameplay in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion™ Remastered. www.xbox.com   Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 48,942 Kingdom of Corona That was fast   Niosai One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 5,198 Whoa   Mivey Member Oct 25, 2017 20,386 Damn, out of nowhere.   bounchfx Member Oct 25, 2017 7,660 Muricas Goddamit I just got to work   pikachuizgod Member Apr 19, 2019 2,651 I just need to know Gameplay changes first (if any)   infinitebento Member Oct 25, 2017 5,153 goddamn that was quick op   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,624 Oh ok lol   Niosai One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 5,198 Hoping it pops up on Game Pass soon.   Terbinator Member Oct 29, 2017 13,114 Shadow dropped?   KaCo The Wise Ones The Fallen May 22, 2018 3,406 For real? lmao   Mauricio_Magus Member Oct 25, 2017 15,593 Terbinator said: Shadow dropped? Click to expand... Click to shrink... yes  TGR Sean Member Nov 5, 2017 1,283 Orlando, Florida Still waiting for Gamepass   Axe Member Oct 27, 2017 3,533 United Kingdom Wow.  TearablePuns Member Oct 26, 2017 10,509 So-so Shadow Drop!   DuckSauce Powered by Friendship™ Member Aug 19, 2023 1,681 Eeesh, $99AUD for the collector's edition. God damn you are lucky Bethesda that I fucking love Oblivion!   Outlaw Torn Member Oct 25, 2017 793 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered - Free download and play on Windows | Microsoft Store The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion™ Remastered modernizes the 2006 Game of the Year with all new stunning visuals and refined gameplay. Explore the vast landscape of Cyrodiil like never before and stop the forces of Oblivion from overtaking the land in one of the greatest RPGs ever from the... apps.microsoft.com   Izanagi89 "This guy are sick" and Corrupted by Vengeance Member Oct 27, 2017 18,557 Looks super clean. Maybe a bit too clean   JuniperAndSage Member Dec 27, 2019 6,887 Seattle The BDS Movement calls for a boycott of Xbox and Microsoft Gaming products over its parent company's complicity in the genocide in Gaza https://www.instagram.com/p/DH_oos6uCCK/ https://bdsmovement.net/microsoft MOD EDIT: Link to Guardian article covering Microsoft involvement with Israeli military: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/23/israeli-military-gaza-war-microsoft www.resetera.com   BWoog Member Oct 27, 2017 44,016 God DAMN out now??   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,624 So, what are the changes in gameplay?   CountCorvinus Member Mar 10, 2023 2,596 Watching the reveal stream now. I hope there's some gameplay enhancements that make vampires more fun to play.   XR. Member Nov 22, 2018 7,549 wow what a surprise   SofNascimento cursed Member Oct 28, 2017 24,673 São Paulo - Brazil If I had not seen all the leaks I'd be very surprised!   RoKKeR Member Oct 25, 2017 16,980 Holy shit lmao. Let's go   Jagaloon Member Aug 31, 2023 136 Includes all expansions and DLC, very nice   OP OP Mattmo831 Featuring Mattmo831 from the Apple v Epic case Member Oct 26, 2020 6,418 Downloading on gamepass now   Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 122,887 Pray for Clair Obscur /s   AuthenticM Son Altesse Sérénissime The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 34,844 Still not up on psn   Gavalanche Prophet of Regret Member Oct 21, 2021 25,333 Good price   Tace Avenger Nov 1, 2017 40,852 The Rapscallion Fuck yeah   Deathglobe Member Oct 25, 2017 1,815 Florida installing now!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Uncle Sensei Member Oct 25, 2017 1,506 NEED THIS NOW   FarSight XR-20 Member Jan 4, 2018 9,373   DrFunk Member Oct 25, 2017 14,527 The shadowiest of drops, I guess   Raigor Member May 14, 2020 16,005 PEAK   Genesius Member Nov 2, 2018 20,168 $50 is reasonable! I need to read through a list of updates  Faces of Death Member Oct 25, 2017 1,993 Fuck yeah. Waiting on PSN.   Solaris Member Oct 27, 2017 6,207 England Purchasing as soon as I get home lol   Terbinator Member Oct 29, 2017 13,114 Up on Game Pass. 119.2GB.   Shotterke Prophet of Regret Member Oct 31, 2017 722 Belgium The screenshots look amazing. Excited to see what they changed.   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,670 $50 is not bad. I was expecting $70 lol  Dan Thunder Member Nov 2, 2017 16,733 120gb?! Well, guess that's one I'm going to be leaving to download overnight!   Juryvicious Member Oct 28, 2017 8,053 There's sold... and there's fucking SOLD.   Huey Member Oct 27, 2017 15,598 goddamn the trailer on the Steam page looks incredible. Full remake.   Solid SOAP One Winged Slayer Member Nov 27, 2017 10,088 your mom's house Can't watch video right now but any switch 2 confirmation??   Cipher Peon One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 9,469 Disappointed it's a shadow drop. Ah well.   Noppie Member Oct 27, 2017 14,590 Cipher Peon said: Disappointed it's a shadow drop. Ah well. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Why   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,624 Cipher Peon said: Disappointed it's a shadow drop. Ah well. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Why?   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,597 The deluxe edition having horse armor is funny. Is it self-aware, or just a sign of the times?  

RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,353 Bethesda (@bethesda) Tomorrow, 11:00 am EST. http://twitch.tv/bethesda and http://youtube.com/live/Ed_E2crglcw xcancel.com View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed_E2crglcw Bethesda - Twitch Welcome to the official Bethesda Twitch channel! Tune in for all things Starfield, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, DOOM, Dishonored, Indiana Jones & The Great Circle, Quake, Wolfenstein and more. www.twitch.tv   Last edited: Yesterday at 12:06 PM OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,353 Wonder what this could be HMMM   Milennia Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter Member Oct 25, 2017 19,642 Florida FINALLY   TearablePuns Member Oct 26, 2017 10,509 Omg they did it. Nate delivers again   sillyGecko Member Mar 14, 2025 345 Kadzork Has got mad skills!! Member Oct 27, 2017 23,662 Oh gee whiz what could this beeeeeee   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,353 Ty let me add that to my post!  Dandy Member Oct 25, 2017 6,338 Finally some info about TESVI!   Convasse Member Oct 26, 2017 4,238 Atlanta, GA, USA Tight key art there.   chandoog Member Oct 27, 2017 20,347 Half Life IV published by Bethesdsa !   AgentStrange Member Oct 25, 2017 4,924 Fawz Member Oct 28, 2017 3,942 Montreal Hope it's something tangible even though the release is likely at least not until late 2026   SaberVS7 Member Oct 25, 2017 6,554 IV? Intravenous 3 confirmed.  Terbinator Member Oct 29, 2017 13,114 Posting in epic thread   DarkChronic Member Oct 27, 2017 5,594 Serious question are you supposed to use "an" for the Roman numeral IV? No right? lol   hydro94530 Chicken Chaser Member Oct 27, 2017 8,089 Bay Area A trailer to announce it's fall release lol. I hope not, can't wait for this!!   dmr87 Member Oct 27, 2017 3,695 Sweden   thecowboypoet Avenger Oct 25, 2017 2,473 I CAN'T BELIEVE IT Damn was really hoping to play it today. Tomorrow is so far away.  Max|Payne Member Oct 27, 2017 9,630 Portugal Doom IV   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,624 no, what can it be   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,670 No way Wolfeinstein IV  RPGam3r Member Oct 27, 2017 16,192 This would be more interesting if a giant thread didn't already exist.   pink The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 8,397 half-life 4 les go   cwoody63 Member Dec 31, 2022 1,258 Oh my God, Starfield 4 confirmed   Cyanity Member Oct 25, 2017 9,967 I really wish this hadn't been leaked ahead of time. Surprise is truly dead in this industry   Mariolee Avenger Oct 25, 2017 11,314 TearablePuns said: Omg they did it. Nate delivers again Click to expand... Click to shrink... Never doubt  canderous Prophet of Truth Member Jun 12, 2020 10,024 Canada WE FUCKIN DID IT   Ricker Member Oct 27, 2017 9,189 Beautiful Province of Quebec. About damn time lol...no shadow drop,more to come during the XBox showcase in June... :P ;)   Kadzork Has got mad skills!! Member Oct 27, 2017 23,662 Release in IV months confirmed.   doops. Banned Jun 3, 2020 4,910 guys, its obviously their new ip 'iv' 😒   J-Spot Member Oct 27, 2017 1,424 Hook it to my veins!   Mushlikeahusky Member Jan 9, 2018 3,376 Wonder what this is for   Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,416 People expected a shadowdrop, but it was a shadowannouncement all along !   dedge Member Sep 15, 2019 2,646 IV has come to…   Red Hunter Member May 28, 2024 1,379 Do we think this will have any enhancements on PS5 Pro?   Yurei Member Feb 28, 2023 1,260 Fuck I cant deal with a shadow dropped Oblivion right now, I just started a new BG3 save and Expedition 33 is coming out. But if this looks impressive then I'll have to try it.  NeoZylom Member Apr 10, 2019 516 Probably Doom IV.   ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,167 let's hope it's not just a reveal trailer and then a coming a few months later...   Jaredus Member Jan 19, 2025 166 yessssssssss   PunkSxE Member Apr 9, 2020 1,269 LFG!!!!!!!!!!   vixolus Prophet of Truth Member Sep 22, 2020 69,820 Imagine if this never leaked and at 10:30 on a random Monday they posted this   poptire Avatar Wrecking Crew The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 14,792 We're all getting a saline drip from Bethesda, that's about as real as it gets   TheDkmariolink Member Nov 12, 2017 847 Are we still expecting a shadow drop or more realistically a release in 2026?   DrFunk Member Oct 25, 2017 14,527 Super   Mifec Member Oct 25, 2017 19,255 vixolus said: Imagine if this never leaked and at 10:30 on a random Monday they posted this Click to expand... Click to shrink... Woulda been crazy.   Quinton Staff Writer at TheGamer Verified Oct 25, 2017 22,949 Midgar, With Love circumstantial   vixolus Prophet of Truth Member Sep 22, 2020 69,820 TheDkmariolink said: Are we still expecting a shadow drop or more realistically a release in 2026? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Itll release tomorrow   Sargerus ▲ Legend ▲ The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 22,335 Maaaaan, if it is a shadowdrop then Clair Obscure is DOA. :(   Sire Red Member Feb 11, 2025 93 France IV Guillemot   EatChildren Wonder from Down Under Member Oct 27, 2017 7,560 Maybe it's for a Quake 4 remake.  

YuSuzzune Member Nov 21, 2018 5,643 Italy We got Overwatch 2 and Diablo IV, all missing COD games and nothing else. Still no Diablo 2 Resurrected, Diablo 3 or other games already available on B.net.  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,329 Ibis Island I hate to tell you this fam, but Xbox/Acti seemingly have no interest in much of the back catalog. As they've been ignoring it for Steam and Xbox (Even titles that wouldn't need the BC efforts). As a whole, I think it's either just not being pushed by anyone internally (despite what Phil has said) or Xbox after buying Activision just went back to leaving them alone, with only "newer" titles being where they feel the need to offer it. It's whack honestly. As getting a new company under you and doing just about jack-all with the back catalog has to be one of the BIGGEST wastes.  Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,853 Gotta drop feed that shit out to make GamePass worth the monthly sub, or honestly they don't care and won't bring older games to it.   Tsunami561 Member Mar 7, 2023 5,239 It started before the sale so it's not microsoft's doing. I think they just don't care that much about older games. Wish we got D2R at least.   LewieP Member Oct 26, 2017 19,675 I was expecting more games to be made BC on Xbox, too.   ThereAreFourNaan Member Nov 8, 2017 14,928 ActiBliz was porting to steam before Microsoft took control, for internal commercial reasons. Framing it as strictly a Microsoft initiative doesn't seem correct although the way they handled it was similar. There is a strong business case to port actively supported games and new release games. It costs the same to port older games but they will not sell as much. Neither ABK on their own or Microsoft chose to comprehensive port their entire catalogue. Microsoft games from as recently as Crackdown 3 (2019!) fell into the black hole where they were modern enough to get pc ports, but not modern enough to get a day 1 steam release, and also deemed not lucrative enough to have a port funded later on either. Gears 4 from 2016 was the same way, even as Gears 5 launched into Steam! Go back one step further - Microsoft porting all games to PC day 1 starting in 2016 or whenever it was left some games high and dry from the changeover and also they certainly did not go back and port every single console game to PC... they just ported new ones from then on out. Now we will see the same play out on PS5 and Switch 2 - Microsoft will port some actively supported or specific high value back catalogue games as well as future games day 1, but they aren't going to double back and port every single old thing and even some from not that long before the changeover period will be black holed.  Last edited: Today at 7:42 AM Killer Member Oct 27, 2017 2,866 They seem to put all MS/Bethesda game on B.net now.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Tsunami561 said: It started before the sale so it's not microsoft's doing. I think they just don't care that much about older games. Wish we got D2R at least. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Blizzard didn't feel the need to bring their old games on Steam and they don't value their old catalog outside of remasters. To be fair their games historically have sold plenty on Bnet. So the incentive to launch on Steam hasn't been there.  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,621 Killer said: They seem to put all MS/Bethesda game on B.net now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,558 prey/wolfenstein yearns for rerelease ms.   AgentStrange Member Oct 25, 2017 4,920 Yeah, seems like it unfortunately. I'm still waiting for Wolfenstein 2009 to come back. Feels bad, man.   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Doesn't seem smart to make it in any way a priority.   Polk Avenger Oct 26, 2017 5,826 They want people to buy and play new games.   Arkanim94 Member Oct 27, 2017 16,547 Acti blizz doesn't have long term memory. They only remember the most recent games.   secretanchitman One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 9,778 Chicago, IL Looks like it, but I remain hopeful that someone inside the company will champion it again. I'd buy all of their games again on Steam, no questions asked!  Niimu Member Apr 5, 2022 513 Yeah, I gave up on waiting and ended up getting D2R on bnet.   chrominance Sky Van Gogh Member Oct 25, 2017 15,999 Microsoft still has holes in their own first-party lineup when it comes to bringing things to PC/Steam, so I don't know why everyone assumed Microsoft would suddenly get Activision to put all of their back catalog up again except hopium.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... Because millions of people use it. I think they said at one point that there are more D4 players on Bnet than Steam. You have to remember that most of the popular blizzard games were purchased on Bnet.  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't understand why they don't want to give Valve 30% for nothing?   Killer Member Oct 27, 2017 2,866 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... I wish they just torch Xbox app and move everything to B.net tbh.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Killer said: I wish they just torch Xbox app and move everything to B.net tbh. Click to expand... Click to shrink... .  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,621 TechnicPuppet said: You don't understand why they don't want to give Valve 30% for nothing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces.  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,568 They aren't even adding games to GP lol, just not a priority TechnicPuppet said: You don't understand why they don't want to give Valve 30% for nothing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nothing except a massive userbase that don't use other launchers   xyla Member Oct 27, 2017 9,484 Germany TechnicPuppet said: Doesn't seem smart to make it in any way a priority. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Doesn't have to be a priority to have a small team constantly bring over the back catalog. It's the biggest publisher in the world with an insane amount of IP and games technically ready to go - they just need to be brought onto steam. Even if it's not setting the world on fire, sales wise - you never know when an old game suddenly catches the Zeitgeist because some streamer is playing it. You miss out on sales every day like this.  danm999 Member Oct 29, 2017 19,672 Sydney Battle net is the rare PC launcher that isn't Steam that people actually still use so uhh, not much incentive for them.   DNihilus Member Apr 21, 2025 1 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... Just combine battle.net with Xbox app and you will get a trillion new users from WoW, than few months later, market this as how your platform grow over the years  Pulsar Member Apr 20, 2025 3 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... They own Bnet and it's still a fairly decent product, so it makes sense to keep it around and not solely depend on Steam.  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 xyla said: Doesn't have to be a priority to have a small team constantly bring over the back catalog. It's the biggest publisher in the world with an insane amount of IP and games technically ready to go - they just need to be brought onto steam. Even if it's not setting the world on fire, sales wise - you never know when an old game suddenly catches the Zeitgeist because some streamer is playing it. You miss out on sales every day like this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Putting in work to give 30% to Valve, training your audience to wait doesn't seem that smart.   Bony Manifesto Member Oct 27, 2017 4,324 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform.  erpg Member Oct 25, 2017 621 Patitoloco said: That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh so it's like a racket.   Stef Member Oct 28, 2017 7,526 Rome, Italy, Planet Earth Killer said: They seem to put all MS/Bethesda game on B.net now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. I guess they are changing their strategy. Let's see…  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,568 Bony Manifesto said: I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, just like Fortnite players didn't suddenly started buying games on Epic launcher   xyla Member Oct 27, 2017 9,484 Germany TechnicPuppet said: Putting in work to give 30% to Valve, training your audience to wait doesn't seem that smart. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We're talking about years after the fact with their games and MS has had much success with launching simultaneously on Game Pass and Steam. They constantly have a lot of games in the top selling games every year. Doesn't happen if you don't release games there.  Reckheim Avenger Oct 25, 2017 10,250 I feel like MS in general is all over the place with their releases.   BeansBeansBeans Member Jan 14, 2025 500 I still just want Minecraft on Steam. :(   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Patitoloco said: That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's because those other publishers didn't produce enough games with the stickiness of Blizzard games. All that said, their future games will be on every platform. So that's a positive.  Tbm24 Member Oct 25, 2017 22,374 Bony Manifesto said: I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The majority of players who play Blizzard games on PC use battle net, not just WoW players. So it's just a really popular store. It's not as popular as Steam, but much to people's disappointment I guess, they're fine with that overall.   Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,568 Tbm24 said: The majority of players who play Blizzard games on PC use battle net, not just WoW players. So it's just a really popular store. It's not as popular as Steam, but much to people's disappointment I guess, they're fine with that overall. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If they were fine they wouldn't be releasing Diablo, Overwatch and all new games including COD at Steam lol. They just aren't prioritizing their back catalogue overall   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Patitoloco said: That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's funny to me that the openness of PC is always used as a pro but in reality a lot of people just want everything to be on Steam.   Lilly-Anne Member Feb 14, 2024 3,269 TechnicPuppet said: It's funny to me that the openness of PC is always used as a pro but in reality a lot of people just want everything to be on Steam. Click to expand... Click to shrink... that happens when every other client is hot garbage, yes   Bony Manifesto Member Oct 27, 2017 4,324 Tbm24 said: The majority of players who play Blizzard games on PC use battle net, not just WoW players. So it's just a really popular store. It's not as popular as Steam, but much to people's disappointment I guess, they're fine with that overall. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, I was using World of Warcraft as shorthand, but Blizzard games in general were exclusive to the platform until very recently.  Brot Member Oct 25, 2017 6,767 the edge Forget Steam, where's the PC version of Crash Team Racing?   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,609 Brot said: Forget Steam, where's the PC version of Crash Team Racing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... not even 60 fps patch for consoles tells me its never happening alas kind of insane. come on MS  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Lilly-Anne said: that happens when every other client is hot garbage, yes Click to expand... Click to shrink... That just isn't true.   Kazooie Member Jul 17, 2019 6,062 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... If people buy games on their own storefronts (Xbox / Windows / Battlenet) they make a lot more money than if they buy it on Steam, so why would they not, since they already have the infrastructure established.   Lilly-Anne Member Feb 14, 2024 3,269 TechnicPuppet said: That just isn't true. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The current iteration of Battlenet came out in 2009. Despite hosting the most successful MMO in the entire world, it took until 2021 for you to be able to add friends from different regions   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Lilly-Anne said: The current iteration of Battlenet came out in 2009. Despite hosting the most successful MMO in the entire world, it took until 2021 for you to be able to add friends from different regions Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's 2025   danm999 Member Oct 29, 2017 19,672 Sydney Bony Manifesto said: I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The amount of people that bought the Brutosaur mount, for 90 USD. Things a fucking gold mine.  Spark Member Dec 6, 2017 2,802 Still waiting for Heretic 2 on GOG   XR. Member Nov 22, 2018 7,548 TechnicPuppet said: It's funny to me that the openness of PC is always used as a pro but in reality a lot of people just want everything to be on Steam. Click to expand... Click to shrink... When people say they appreciate the openness of PC gaming, do you think they mean having 14 different clients installed?  

Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,563 Midwest   Alex840 Member Oct 31, 2017 5,349 Expedition 33 is out this week, so it'll have to wait.   septmbrvrywn Member Dec 3, 2018 1,026 Paris, France I've never played the original so I'm hyped but also I'm cautious about everyone praising this game because of nostalgia. I really hope it delivers!   Shopolic Avenger Oct 27, 2017 8,027 Hyped, if it's just a graphic update without any changes to animations, voice acting, a little gameplay improvements and... Extremely hyped, if there are more changes in other aspects of the game, not only graphics.  jungius Banned Sep 5, 2021 3,537 I loved oblivion much than skyrim, but I am personally boycotting Microsoft now that they are directly supporting the atrocities in Gaza Microsoft Microsoft is perhaps the most complicit tech company in Israel’s illegal apartheid regime and ongoing genocide against 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza. bdsmovement.net so my hype level is skyblivion out of 10, will wait for skyblivion instead  JehutyRunner Member Oct 26, 2017 3,543 I wish Todd Howard really was my dad. :(   E-bite Member Oct 24, 2018 1,336 Thor Love & Thunder   ryzz Member Oct 23, 2018 819 Do we think console mods will be available?   maze001 Member Sep 18, 2024 512 IDK. I love Oblivion but those screenshots kinda gave the feel of a scuffed remake. Turning Oblivion's signature lush green vistas into yet another assortment of gritty mud brown/gray/red is certainly a choice.   onibirdo Member Dec 9, 2020 3,464 Into my veins   HolyJonte AVALANCHE Member Aug 31, 2023 1,232 From Stockholm but now living in Padova, Italy I just played Skyrim for the first time since 2011 and it was better than I thought. Oblivion I haven't played since 2009 (and then just a bit on ps3, played it fully on PC on release) and I think the game really need some changes but it has some great things in it too.   NateDog "This guy are sick" Member Jan 8, 2018 2,268 Alex840 said: Expedition 33 is out this week, so it'll have to wait. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is me. I've been really looking forward to this since reveal and have left myself with a whole week without anything else to play with my FFXIV sub running out (apart from getting back into my MGS4 replay but I pick up and drop MGS games regularly). So unfortunately I can't get into this now. But I am very much looking forward to it. I found Skyrim a little too big and sparse in places even though I did enjoy a lot of aspects of it. I've watched so many Oblivion videos over the years and think my partner might even enjoy it so I am certainly excited and might get to play it in about a month once I'm finished with Clair Obscur.   moqz Member Jan 28, 2025 378 Do we know if this will be on gamepass? I don't think I can play through it again but I would just like to wander for a bit and look at the art.   Theorry Member Oct 27, 2017 68,644 moqz said: Do we know if this will be on gamepass? I don't think I can play through it again but I would just like to wander for a bit and look at the art. Click to expand... Click to shrink... offcourse it will   samoscratch Member Nov 25, 2017 2,983 I would prefer a Morrowind remake but i'm still interested in this. Oblivion was a fun game, lots of flaws they could fix with a remake to elevate it.   Xion_Stellar Member Oct 25, 2017 4,112 After the condition Skyrim came out on PS3 and how Fallout 76 launched it's hard to get excited for a TES/Fallout game during its launch window because you know just how jank these things are going to be so I'll wait and see how this game will turn out before I comment but as a side note I don't like how dirty they are doing the Skyblivion team with this release.   moqz Member Jan 28, 2025 378 Theorry said: offcourse it will Click to expand... Click to shrink... Good to hear   mrzenga Member Jan 2, 2025 245 Extremely hyped if it's more like a new game, meh if it's mostly visuals (I d rather replay skyrim)   cowbanana Member Feb 2, 2018 16,196 a Socialist Utopia Meh, I mostly remember the game as a huge disappointment. It was so shallow and repetitive compared to Morrowind. Better graphics is just lipstick on a pig.   antitrop Member Oct 25, 2017 14,758 I'm more curious about it than hyped. Really wonder if it will be able to recapture what made the original memorable.   miju Member Jun 8, 2018 63 Meh I'am playing it currently for the first time and it's aged badly, need to see what gameplay changes are for the remaster first.  Exist 2 Inspire Powered by Friendship™ Member Apr 19, 2018 4,610 Germany I could never get into the og back on the PS3 so maybe this time but it's definitely not a Day 1 pick up. I'll check it out eventually.   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 40,841 Weirdly hyped, despite not playing Elder Scrolls since... Oblivion. Id definitely like to get it, but part of me would rather give Skyrim another chance.   Noppie Member Oct 27, 2017 14,589 It's a remaster, meh by definition   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Hyped to hell. It's weird how it's broken beyond gaming spaces. Well weird to me, I don't know it was quite so popular.   cam eleon Member Mar 17, 2025 36 I've already spent so many hours on the original game that I'm not sure I'll get much out of a visual upgrade. I started a new playthrough a little while ago, but I just lost interest after a few hours. I'm excited to see it, but it's gonna take more than new graphics and minor changes to blocking and archery to get me invested again.   Blue Ninja Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 3,211 Belgium Even if it's just Oblivion as it was in 2006 with a new coat of paint, I'm still very hyped. Elder Scrolls-games are something special for me, and even a new coat of paint is enough for me to drop whatever else I'm playing and just go fuck around in Tamriel again.   Purslane Member Jun 25, 2020 395 If it has all the same jank as before and 3 voice actors, nah not hyped.   Tortillo VI Member May 27, 2018 2,242 Very curious if they tweak combat and other elements that were already clunky on the original release. If its just a visuals enhancement, it will be a big missed opportunity.   keyrodi Member Feb 19, 2018 1,046 Tortillo VI said: Very curious if they tweak combat and other elements that were already clunky on the original release. If its just a visuals enhancement, it will be a big missed opportunity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They're making a number of changes to hit responses and bow combat, as far as we know. Can't wait to see what else they add/change   ChaserX Member Nov 1, 2017 3,073 Miami, FL Depending on how much has changed + the cost, I may just get the original on my laptop for modding. If it can run New Vegas, surely original Oblivion won't be an issue. Oh, and zero shot I even play this day 1 with Expedition 33.   hobblygobbly Member Oct 25, 2017 8,410 NORDFRIESLAND, DEUTSCHLAND i am excited for it, but i am more interested in knowing what gameplay/design has been changed, for example if they redid the busted way skills leveled up and character level, etc some of the leaked visuals like buildings and such seem good to me, but on other hands some artistic changes don't look good like the more muted colour adjustment we saw at exit of the sewer, but i am not sure if the latter could be caused by simply time of day or not, because one of the other leaked shots looked more vibrant what was really odd for me in leaked screenshots is the trees/forests... like exit of the sewers, there's less trees on the hills in the background compared to the original. that is really odd  Foolish Member Jun 23, 2022 1,469 While I know I'll have a great time because the original is deeply nostalgic to me, I can keenly feel that my potential hype is shackled down by the possibility of there not being enough changes. Currently praying to any Daedra that will listen that the leveling system and level scaling system have notable changes.  Tamepalar Member Jul 1, 2022 202 Hype off the charts, I don't actually know why exactly   liquidtmd Avenger Oct 28, 2017 6,665 Purslane said: If it has all the same jank as before and 3 voice actors, nah not hyped. Click to expand... Click to shrink... See, I'm semi serious when I say 'unless' it has all the same jank as before and 3 voice actors, nah not hyped.  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,769 Spain More curious than anything. I loved Oblivion, but if it's just going to be the same game but nicer looking, I'll probably skip it for now.   Uncle at Nintendo 2nd Generation Uncle at Nintendo Member Jan 3, 2018 9,739 Downloading it ASAP when I get home from work (assuming its on Gamepass PC)   Saito Hikari Member Jul 3, 2021 4,301 Extremely hyped, I especially want to know they plan to address the flaws with Oblivion's level-up system and enemy scaling. Then I'll play the hell out of it for about a day before I switch over to Expedition 33, then come back when I'm done with that game.   Edward ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 30, 2017 5,890 This is to my FF7 remake. I have so many fond memories of hanging out in Ventrilo while playing all night, playing it on my 360 when i had to sit in Iron Forge for hours waiting for our raid group to get ready and sneaking in some time during raid downtimes. I was obsessed with Oblivion. It's one of very few single players i beat more than once.  The Praiseworthy Member Oct 30, 2017 10,335 Can't wait to go back to one of my favourite gaming worlds again <3 Extremely hyped.  Sir Hound Member Oct 28, 2017 2,485 I haven't played in a long time and have extremely fond memories, so I'm basically 100% hyped even if it's just a graphical upgrade. The more they add/change is cool by me too. But my main hype factor is, will it be today/ this week? If it coincides with the Switch 2 then it'll probably go on the back burner realistically.   monketron Member Oct 27, 2017 4,012 Need to see exactly what they've updated first. Enjoyed the game when it first came out, but I think people who haven't played it but played Skyrim will be in for a shock how much less user friendly so many of it's systems are. I hope they've updated all that rather than just done a graphics update.   Toddhunter Member Feb 22, 2025 258 Just Fallout 4 without the guns. Meh   Tortillo VI Member May 27, 2018 2,242 keyrodi said: They're making a number of changes to hit responses and bow combat, as far as we know. Can't wait to see what else they add/change Click to expand... Click to shrink... That makes me super hyped. I really want them to go far with changing things as the original is both easily accessible and deeply flawed. They could use this opportunity to try things for ES6.   Techno Powered by Friendship™ The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 6,820 Day one for me, I must have put in hundreds of hours in the original.   kinoki Member Oct 28, 2017 1,927 I'll get it on a -50% sale. I played it back in the day, didn't click with me. Not wasting my money. Also Skyrim might qualify for the game I've put the most hours into across all platforms so...   dyreschlock Member Oct 27, 2017 3,320 Gifu, Japan I definitely want to play it. :)   Moff Member Oct 26, 2017 5,681 I am honestly unsure I kind of feel the hype and I am in the mood for an open world RPG, but I never liked obvlivion, even at launch I felt let down, especially from the quest quality. I think only the thief/assassin questline or whatever it was, was halfway interesting. I would have much preferred a Morrowind remake, but in the end I might give in to the hype either way  Sei Member Oct 28, 2017 6,645 LA How mod-able is it? that's all I want to know.   Scottoest Member Feb 4, 2020 12,569 My hype is going to come down to the details. The leaked screenshots looked really nice, but I think those visuals over fundamentally the same old, janky ass, dated systems and design will do nothing but drain out what makes the original game charming. If they did a lot of work to modernize things and improve the combat, my hype will shoot up considerably. If it's just a modern coat of paint over the old game, I'm less interested. I played that game already, and thought the visuals looked pretty good at the time. I'm also going to be interested to see what the mod situation is. If it's as moddable as a typical Bethesda game, but with UE5-powered visuals? That could potentially be awesome. 

Culex Member Oct 29, 2017 9,001 You have a shiny new system. For technical reasons, beyond anything Digital Foundry can explain, you are limited to: A new TV, with beautiful OLED tech, however your shiny new system can only cap at 30 FPS. Or A new LCD TV, without fancy tech like mini-LED, however your system can output guaranteed 60 FPS. What do you choose? Color Fidelity or FPS?  VanWinkle Member Oct 25, 2017 17,073 Never going to back to 30fps   CosmosPalace Member Jul 11, 2024 60 Always performance over fidelity   Ananasas Member Jul 11, 2018 2,996 30 fps on OLED is bad   Yerffej Prophet of Regret Member Oct 25, 2017 28,963 Love my OLEDs but if I had this ridiculous choice before me and no way out…come on.   SickNasty Member Mar 18, 2020 1,724 I like nice colours :)   Issen Member Nov 12, 2017 7,378 A good LCD, even without mini-LED, is perfectly capable of displaying high fidelity, accurate colors, and decent enough contrast (upwards of 5000:1 even without mini-LED or even something as basic as backlit local dimming). Give me the LCD any day.  Dynamo Member Jan 1, 2021 196 60fps easily. 30fps on OLED is awful.  Windrunner Sly Member Oct 25, 2017 7,602 I am going to assume the OP does not have an OLED TV and hasn't seen the difference between 30fps and 60fps on one.   canderous Prophet of Truth Member Jun 12, 2020 10,017 Canada No   Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,803 North Carolina Ive had 1 OLED ever. That's the Switch OLED. Its really nice, but not nice enough to lose 60fps.   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,609 I have an LG C4 65" and a 5 year old Acer 27" IPS. 60 fps on lcd easily  JoeInky Member Oct 25, 2017 3,957 I would always pick performance over anything else I'd do 480p 60fps before I did 1080p 30fps  rudeboyoslo Member Jan 5, 2018 1,395 I always choose quality mode anyway, so 30 fps is my default.   Agni Kai Member Nov 2, 2017 9,807 VanWinkle said: Never going to back to 30fps Click to expand... Click to shrink... You will. I guarantee it.  TheWooniestWoona Member Oct 27, 2017 7,225 OLED looks too good to give it up. I already play plenty of 30fps games on my OLED anyway. People saying it looks bad are exagerating.  Homura ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 20, 2019 6,816 OP, this will be a slaughter. A better question would have been: OLED 60FPS vs No OLED 120FPS.  Purslane Member Jun 25, 2020 395 I'll take the worst TN-panel over 30 fps OLED   vrietje Member Dec 4, 2018 1,090 I hear about the problem with 30fps on an oled. I dont see it. But it is an hard choice since I don't think 30fps ruins an game, an stable 30fps can even be better to play than an unstable 60. but it depends on the type of game, fast game, 60fps. slow game RPG SRPG an such 30 is fine.  NekoNeko Coward Oct 26, 2017 20,090 Easiest choice ever since 30fps on an OLED is hell. I'd rather do 30fps non OLED than 30fps OLED.  Audiblee Member Mar 14, 2025 838 60 all day every day. And no, a consistent 30 isn't ok.   Mauricio_Magus Member Oct 25, 2017 15,592 anyone that doesn't vote for 60fps is insane.   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,558 45 FPS OLED. Gottem!   J-Skee The Wise Ones Member Oct 25, 2017 13,001 I literally bought my OLED because Ratchet & Clank was doing something above 30fps that hadn't been done before (to my knowledge, anyway). And I'm someone who typically doesn't have an issue with 30fps.   Fnnrqwin Member Sep 19, 2019 2,931 I will never go back from OLED. Almost every game I play is 30 fps anyway. You get used to it really quickly.   nogoodnamesleft Member Oct 25, 2017 8,480 More threads downplaying just how bad lcds are :(  

w00tmanUK Member Nov 9, 2017 513 Hola people. Finally picked up a copy of Super Mario 3D All-stars and got to try, for the first time ever, Mario Sunshine. I have no affinity for the gamecube - I owned one, briefly, but I was going though a PC-gaming phase at the time so it didn't last long. Mario 64 is one of my GOATs - I was at the right age (12) when it launched, it was revolutionary, and I adore, but had never played the other two games on the pack. So I eagerly dove into Sunshine.. ..and absolutely hate it. Now I haven't put long into it - maybe 2 or 3 hours, tops, but so far it would be deadliest of all the Mario games I can remember playing (I am unlikely to have played any of the BAD Mario games, but relatively speaking). Thinking it was me at fault, I just started Galaxy - again, I had a Wii but not a massive game selection and not this game. WOW - brilliant, brilliant, brilliant - this is what a 3D Mario should feel like, fun, polished and excellent mechanics. I'm not going to give up on Sunshine if other people have been on that same journey of learning to love it - but I am worried it's a time-and-a-place game. Is it worth sticking with? Galaxy however, I'm annoyed I've not played it before!  KillstealWolf One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 27, 2017 18,274 Bounce now, just stick with galaxy, Sunshine ain't that good anyway. You'll be spared from the poisoned waterway and Pachinko.   LewieP Member Oct 26, 2017 19,671 Super Mario Sunburn addresses a lot of the major issues imo. - YouTube Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. youtu.be   Jimnymebob Member Oct 26, 2017 21,948 Sunshine is one of those where it doesn't get better as you go further in. It just adds more frustrating things every so often.   Diogo Arez One Winged Slayer Member Oct 20, 2020 20,080 No, unfortunately the game is fundamentally flawed on basically every level, honestly just skip straight to Galaxy and don't look back   LordHuffnPuff Doctor Videogames at Allfather Productions Verified Oct 25, 2017 3,101 webernet It's lovable immediately! A massive step up over 64.   kenjieno Member May 31, 2023 1,459 I really liked it when it came out but it's interesting to see how people hate it now. I guess it just doesn't hold up so I'll never play it again. In my heart, I find it better than any of the new 3D Mario's.   Remark Member Oct 27, 2017 4,065 Never hated the game. The game definitely gets worse and more frustrating the farther you get into the game but the overall charm of the world kept me going. I will say I will probably never play that Mario again though lmao. Very much a one and done.  vio55555 Member Apr 11, 2024 3,195 Stick with Galaxy. You're not going to really learn to love Sunshine. Sunshine gameplay made sense back when it had no successors and there was just Mario 64 before it. Now though? Play any of the other 3D Marios instead, especially if you gave it 2-3 hours and didn't enjoy it. Not much will change another 10-20 hours later. Most just one and done it if they grind through...  NotLiquid One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 37,655 How much you love Sunshine really depends on if two key factors are enough to carry a game for you. The first is that the game has arguably the best and most fluid movement out of any 3D Mario game, only Odyssey gives it a run for its money in that regard and even then it's debatable. The game's schmovement is absolutely tight. The second is how fully committed it is to its island adventure aesthetic and how creative the game gets with its level theming. Getting deeper into the game and seeing the twists it does on well-treaded level tropes is an experience on its own; Sirena Beach in particular is a good one. If these two aren't enough for you to overcome some iffy mission design and jankier elements that show their head the further into the game you get, then you'll probably bounce off of it, and that's fine, it's a divisive game. If you do come to enjoy those elements, you're faced with what's easily the most unique 3D Mario game ever attempted.  FreddeGredde Member Oct 27, 2017 2,041 If you're not enjoying the challenge of mastering the complex movement and "janky" situations, you never will. I think it's my favorite Mario because the movement is the most expressive and you're rewarded for thinking outside the box and doing complicated things, while for example Galaxy is the opposite of that; you're led through a safe and polished obstacle course where you can't really do anything wrong. Since you love the latter, I think Sunshine just won't ever be for you.  Violet Wren Member Oct 25, 2017 418 I actually just started playing sunshine for the first time since I got it with my GameCube back in the early 2000s, and I think I hate it now more than I did back then. The way mario moves in this game is so frustrating, especially in the "secret level" sections where they take fludd away. It feels like even the most basic of jumps has to be made completely blind as judging where Mario will land after a fludd hover is next to impossible for me. Galaxy 2 might just be one of my fav games ever made, and I'd say the same about 64, but sunshine just doesn't feel like it's part of the game same lineage of games. To me, it's as bad as Other M is to Metroid games.   Kain-Nosgoth Member Oct 25, 2017 17,472 Switzerland i always loved it, sure it's the weakest of the 3D mario, but i still had lots of fun with it   HungryQuaggan Member Feb 27, 2024 144 I hated Sunshine back in the day, but I tried it again many years later with 3D All-Stars and I really love it now!! So I would definitely give it a chance.   mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 32,824 Gongaga Worst 3D Mario by far. I remember hating it as a kid, giving it another chance when 3D All-Stars released and ended up hating it even more. Move on to Galaxy, an actually good game. Tho I do like Sunshine's vacation vibes and music.  Remember Me Member Apr 3, 2018 333 Spain Yeah, Sunshine isn't a great game, while Galaxy is (more than great). I guess it was about as expected what you felt the first time playing them.   EmergencyPasta Member Aug 17, 2022 2,425 All this Sunshine hate makes me sad. Game absolutely rules. All these basic bitches thinking Galaxy is the best, the Mario equivalent of "press button to make shiny things go boom" whereas Sunshine you actually have to do things and be good  Skyfireblaze Member Oct 25, 2017 13,446 I can't fault people for not liking Sunshine due to its issues however as a complete package it's still among my favorite 3D Marios. Granted, a big part of it might be the setting that I love but I also found the levels plain fun and interesting and I wish Nintendo would one day revisit Isla Delfino and Fludd gameplay.   Taco_Human Member Jan 6, 2018 4,854 MA You playing with a gamecube controller? The analog shoulder buttons and the 8 notches in the analog stick are important.   Lkr Member Oct 28, 2017 11,923 there's a 60 fps mod for dolphin that makes it much smoother to play imo the warts are all still there though  mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 32,824 Gongaga Taco_Human said: You playing with a gamecube controller? The analog shoulder buttons and the 8 notches in the analog stick are important. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also this Sunshine is definitely best played with a GC controller  Zyrokai Member Nov 1, 2017 5,157 Columbus, Ohio Strange this thread popped up. I recently restarted it in the 3D All Stars collection. Still in the first world. It's okay. I played it a ton when I was younger on the GameCube but it definitely doesn't spark the same joy that Galaxy and Odyssey and most other Mario games do. There's just something off about it to me.   OP OP w00tmanUK Member Nov 9, 2017 513 Some really interesting points, thanks everyone. I am leaning towards playing through Galaxy and then seeing how I feel - I think I might end up 'needing' to play more to at least satisfy my "given it a go" mentality, but we will see.   Lylo Member Oct 25, 2017 3,517 I love it. I play it at 60fps on my Wii U, it makes the experience so much better to me.   OP OP w00tmanUK Member Nov 9, 2017 513 Taco_Human said: You playing with a gamecube controller? The analog shoulder buttons and the 8 notches in the analog stick are important. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nope - switch joy con grip thing.   Amnixia ▲ Legend ▲ The Fallen Jan 25, 2018 11,741 Loved the game from day one myself, the movement is absolutely amazing.   Culex Member Oct 29, 2017 8,999 In vacuum, it's a good game, marred by control issues and….those coins. Galaxy was such a monumental leap over it that it's completely overshadowed.  Jimnymebob Member Oct 26, 2017 21,948 EmergencyPasta said: All this Sunshine hate makes me sad. Game absolutely rules. All these basic bitches thinking Galaxy is the best, the Mario equivalent of "press button to make shiny things go boom" whereas Sunshine you actually have to do things and be good Click to expand... Click to shrink... The problem I had with Sunshine is that Mario feels awful to control, and as the sequel to the first 3D platformer that absolutely knocked the concept of controlling a character in a 3D space out of the park (and I say this as someone who really doesn't enjoy Mario 64), it's absolutely baffling that it feels as bad as it does. Sure, the FLUDD moveset is fun to use, but Bubsy 3D would've been improved tenfold by having FLUDD. I love the vibes of Sunshine, I think it has some of the best missions in this style of 3D Mario, but FLUDD feels like a band-aid, and it's especially noticeable when you hit those challenges where you don't have it, because it's absolutely miserable to play.  Alienhated Member Oct 25, 2017 4,087 It's weird, it's fugly, it's half baked, it's rough.   CanUKlehead Member Oct 30, 2017 3,757 I didn't grow up with Mario 64 so jumped into Sunshine from Mario World and it was fine, but I didn't care much for the Fludd gimmick TBF.   Derbel McDillet ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 23, 2022 23,324 EmergencyPasta said: All this Sunshine hate makes me sad. Game absolutely rules. All these basic bitches thinking Galaxy is the best, the Mario equivalent of "press button to make shiny things go boom" whereas Sunshine you actually have to do things and be good Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes. Unlike Sunshine, Mario controls accurately when you press buttons in Galaxy.   Lylo Member Oct 25, 2017 3,517 Man, the hate for Sunshine is bizarre, it's one of those games that the internet decided that it's bad. I mean, Mario controls in Sunshire are the tightest of all the 3D Marios and yet there are people shitting on it already...   Alienhated Member Oct 25, 2017 4,087 EmergencyPasta said: All this Sunshine hate makes me sad. Game absolutely rules. All these basic bitches thinking Galaxy is the best, the Mario equivalent of "press button to make shiny things go boom" whereas Sunshine you actually have to do things and be good Click to expand... Click to shrink... Both things are true. Sunshine is a rough game, Galaxy is way too easy.   Neutron Member Jun 2, 2022 3,459 Nice water.   Salikawood Member Dec 26, 2024 1,260 I love the vibes of Sunshine and I think it's fine for the most part, but some sections are really difficult and drive me to a point of madness in not wanting to give up until I clear the part that's giving me trouble I liked it better than 64 tho. I have no nostalgia for any of these games and while I understand the ground-breaking nature of 64 at the time, I don't think it's THAT much better than Sunshine  construct Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Jun 5, 2020 10,868 𖦹 I liked it a lot during release, haven't played it since   HungryQuaggan Member Feb 27, 2024 144 It's interesting how some find the controls are better in Galaxy. I absolutely adore Galaxy and it's still my favourite Mario game, but going back to it in 3D All-Stars, I thought it controlled pretty badly compared to all other 3D Mario's. Mario feels sluggish and the movement can feel a bit janky at times. Edit: Actually... thinking back, I remember loving Galaxy's controls on the WIi. So maybe the Switch version just wasn't as great. The Wiimote motion for the spin felt great to me and that magic was kind of lost with a simple button press. Plus the lack of IR pointer made it feel awkward to collect star bits. So I'd like to play it with a Wiimote and Nunchuck again.  Last edited: Yesterday at 8:32 AM thewienke Member Oct 25, 2017 19,083 I was a full grown adult in college at launch and there was so much hype leading up to the game. It came out in late August which really helped with the whole vacation vibe. It was easily one of the best games I'd ever seen graphically at that point. I remember chilling on the beach and just enjoying how great everything looked, the music was fantastic, the atmosphere really didn't have any comparison points across gaming either. Compared to Mario 64, it was a significant step forward, controlled really well with the analog triggers, and was just an overall fantastic experience. So for me Sunshine remains one of the best Mario games I've ever played and after everything I would still rank it just under Odyssey. I think there's going to be an influence of nostalgia in folks opinions of every Mario game. I'm a touch older than most who probably played Galaxy instead of Sunshine just based on sales and general age of Millennials on this forum. Personally, I was mid to late 20s when Galaxy came out and I hated the Wii because it was a muddy looking sub-HD console released in an era where it should have been HD capable. I really did like Galaxy but, like most Wii games, it never stuck as one of my favorites. I played it, beat it, and immediately started Mass Effect right after it which overshadowed my memories of Galaxy (and most games in the epic fall of 2007). I need to replay it with the Switch collection at some point and see if my opinion on it has changed at all.  Okami Member Oct 28, 2017 77 I loved Sunshine from the get-go, but it has many rough moments, and I imagine if you already hate it you will not learn to love it but rather feel like throwing it out when reaching said rough moments. For me, learning to master the controls (excluding fludd) is really satisfying though, as they are some of the most responsive in the series imo.   mrzenga Member Jan 2, 2025 243 I don't have to - I already love it. It is a great game that gets underwhelming near the end  OP OP w00tmanUK Member Nov 9, 2017 513 Lylo said: Man, the hate for Sunshine is bizarre, it's one of those games that the internet decided that it's bad. I mean, Mario controls in Sunshire are the tightest of all the 3D Marios and yet there are people shitting on it already... Click to expand... Click to shrink... Trust me, this is not influenced by the 'internet' opinion on this - I have never played it (I went from Nintendo to be a hardcore Sony fan, and whilst I still have a PS5 Pro, have fallen deeply back in love with Switch, 3DS etc) and I am trying to catch up on about 20 years of gaming!   QuigleyMcShine Member Jan 29, 2018 10,781 Mario always felt too fidgety for me in Sunshine. Like you'd be trying to make a tiny precision adjustment and he'd jitter off an edge.   Jamesac68 Member Oct 27, 2017 3,135 First time I played Mario Sunshine I didn't much care one way or the other. I didn't hate it, didn't love it, didn't beat it. Fast forward 10 years and I gave it another shot, beating the whole thing. Again, I didn't love it, but I did enjoy playing Sunshine knowing what I was getting. The game isn't bad at all once you're acclimated to it.   KezayJS1 Member Apr 25, 2021 2,745 I was always surprised at just how much Sunshine as a game wasn't liked when I first started to get involved with online gaming communities. It's by no means a top contender in my favorite Mario platformers but I still enjoyed what I played despite its flaws. But yeah, if you're already not enjoying it I'm guessing you probably won't ever get to that point. As much as I liked having a different sort of locale that was a bit of an interconnected resort as the setting it does mean missing out on a lot of the usual fantastical whiplash of new environments and worlds like you got from Mario 64 prior and Mario Galaxy after.   Diogo Arez One Winged Slayer Member Oct 20, 2020 20,080 Lylo said: Man, the hate for Sunshine is bizarre, it's one of those games that the internet decided that it's bad. I mean, Mario controls in Sunshire are the tightest of all the 3D Marios and yet there are people shitting on it already... Click to expand... Click to shrink... If by tightest you mean some of the worst physics in a major 3D platformer, yeah I guess, Mario rarely does what you want even when you spend 30h with the game   Hakai Member Oct 27, 2017 147 Sunshine is a good game but a bad Mario game. That's it.   Marvie Member Oct 25, 2017 13,852 Sunshine is awesome but I get why people wouldnt like it.   Lylo Member Oct 25, 2017 3,517 w00tmanUK said: Trust me, this is not influenced by the 'internet' opinion on this - I have never played it (I went from Nintendo to be a hardcore Sony fan, and whilst I still have a PS5 Pro, have fallen deeply back in love with Switch, 3DS etc) and I am trying to catch up on about 20 years of gaming! Click to expand... Click to shrink... No worries! My message wasn't directed at you specifically :) My message was aimed at this kind of opinion: Diogo Arez said: If by tightest you mean some of the worst physics in a major 3D platformer, yeah I guess, Mario rarely does what you want even when you spend 30h with the game Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is simply not true at all...  addyb Member Oct 27, 2017 556 I actually finished sunshine for the very first time a few months ago. I'd always bounced off it early in the past, but this time I stuck with it and really enjoyed it. Some shines are painful to get due to the bloody camera, but overall I really enjoyed it. I'm of the opinion the game gets better the further in you go.   prestoil Member Sep 30, 2024 105 I don't think it gets better the farther in you go. Some of the upgrades you get are kind-of fun to use. But the game gets more and more demanding, and you have to complete almost every regular level objective to finish the game.  

nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,552 i would saved it for sgf but maybe theres a sony show coming soon. i think theres a rumored one but maybe that was fake since biblikun said it was bullshit that they were using his name in the leak On March 20, 2025, it was discovered that Atlus had potentially registered a Persona 4 Remake domain name called "P4RE.JP." This domain name has been updated today, on April 21, 2025. The update to the P4RE website domain is similar to updates for previous Persona domains shortly before their related games were announced: a move to owned nameservers instead of the Onamae (Japanese domain registrar) nameservers for the generic landing page. The website currently returns an error, being unable to be retrieved on the front-end. Unlike previous domain updates, however, this one does not feature an indicated address for the domain's host. Given the trends of Atlus domain names being updated shortly before a reveal, this would normally mean that a Persona 4 remake would be announced imminently. This is contingent on the legitimacy of the actual domain, and whether or not it's an official, Atlus domain name for such a project. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Possible Persona 4 Remake Domain Name Updated, Hints at Upcoming Announcement - Persona Central The domain name for a possible Persona 4 Remake has been updated, which could lead to an upcoming announcement. personacentral.com   MrConbon210 Member Oct 31, 2017 7,960 Feels awfully fast from P3 Remake to P4 Remake. Would have thought we would get some Persona 6 news first.   Soulflarz Member Oct 25, 2017 3,914 Way too soon, will skip probs. MrConbon210 said: Feels awfully fast from P3 Remake to P4 Remake. Would have thought we would get some Persona 6 news first. Click to expand... Click to shrink... p3r team was unrelated to p6 unless im misremembering the internal structure from what I heard - or rather, 3r wasn't going to mess with 6 dev. Kinda similar to capcom doing remakes.  Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,669 Guess they'll sell the Golden extra dungeon as DLC   MrConbon210 Member Oct 31, 2017 7,960 Soulflarz said: Way too soon, will skip probs. p3r team was unrelated to p6 unless im misremembering the internal structure from what I heard - or rather, 3r wasn't going to mess with 6 dev. Kinda similar to capcom doing remakes. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Hasn't Capcom typically alternated between Remakes and new games though right? I think RE 3 was utilizing a ton from 2 which is why is came out a year later and wax only a few hours.   Soulflarz Member Oct 25, 2017 3,914 MrConbon210 said: Hasn't Capcom typically alternated between Remakes and new games though right? I think RE 3 was utilizing a ton from 2 which is why is came out a year later and wax only a few hours. Click to expand... Click to shrink... idk about RE2 era but I know nowadays a lot of this is being done to train people on engines they aren't familiar with, whether that be new employees or new engines, but yeah.   Beelzebufo Member Jun 1, 2022 5,624 Canada Definitely interested in how they'll handle Golden content with this. The Answer is a simple post-game expansion type of thing. It's "easy" to just charge extra for it post-launch. Golden fundamentally changes the entire game. Surely you can't do the same thing here? "Here's Persona 4!...okay now pay us to play the whole thing over again 5 months later or whatever it is!"  Astral Member Oct 27, 2017 33,158 Make Yosuke gay. Closeted-ass.   Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 122,880 Wasn't expecting this so soon... Annoyed I bought P4G, but at least I didn't play it yet. Only watched the anime so far  TheChungusAmongUs Member Oct 25, 2017 14,422 They can't just release golden as something post game because unlike Answer, Golden's content is integrated into the main game. Imagine if they release P4 Remake of Vanilla, then do P4 Golden remake. People would be unbelievably pissed.  Reflecting Sky Member Mar 17, 2024 2,460 Ah, there it is. One of the many worst-kept secrets in gaming. Hope it'll be the best iteration of the game, addressing some questionable aspects of an otherwise excellent game.   SaberVS7 Member Oct 25, 2017 6,554 MrConbon210 said: Feels awfully fast from P3 Remake to P4 Remake. Would have thought we would get some Persona 6 news first. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Soulflarz said: Way too soon, will skip probs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Is it though? The gap between Persona 3 and 4 on PS2 was only two years. Not to downplay the work involved, but if they started around when P3Reload went gold (Or a bit before that, with a 2nd team), a similar two year gap isn't exactly unreasonable, following the existing design-documentation of the original Persona 4, and being able to leverage some of the work done for P3Reload as well (As the original Persona 4 itself did with Persona 3). Atlus's teams aren't greenhorns to HD development anymore.  BK0X Shinra Employee Member Oct 28, 2017 930 I'm a bit excited for it, but honestly, P4G was already perfect. I don't really feel like it needs a remake. I've spent so many hours in it, and going back for a fourth time feels tough.... unless they introduce some meaningful upgrades or fresh, brand-new content.   bunkitz Brave Little Spark Moderator Oct 28, 2017 15,913 Souji Seta comeback before even P6. Cool. Would be pretty amusing timing for me too as I'm still wrapping up my P3R playthrough.   MrConbon210 Member Oct 31, 2017 7,960 SaberVS7 said: Is it though? The gap between Persona 3 and 4 on PS2 was only two years. Not to downplay the work involved, but if they started around when P3Reload went gold (Or a bit before that, with a 2nd team), a similar two year gap isn't exactly unreasonable, following the existing design-documentation of the original Persona 4, and being able to leverage some of the work done for P3Reload as well (As the original Persona 4 itself did with Persona 3). Click to expand... Click to shrink... I was just under the belief that Atlus would want to alternate between remakes and new mainline games.   Strings Member Oct 27, 2017 34,307 Soulflarz said: Way too soon, will skip probs. p3r team was unrelated to p6 unless im misremembering the internal structure from what I heard - or rather, 3r wasn't going to mess with 6 dev. Kinda similar to capcom doing remakes. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Wasn't the P3R team some of the P6 team getting up and running?   Doskoi Panda One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 17,042 What do yall think the name will be? P4 Rerun? P4 Rewind? P4 Replay?   Puffins Member Nov 1, 2024 269 I think I'm good with P4 Golden, but if it comes out on Gamepass I'll give it a go.   BasilZero Member Oct 25, 2017 39,616 Omni Damn, there's so many coming out. I just barely finished SMTV  Beelzebufo Member Jun 1, 2022 5,624 Canada SaberVS7 said: Is it though? The gap between Persona 3 and 4 on PS2 was only two years. Not to downplay the work involved, but if they started around when P3Reload went gold (Or a bit before that, with a 2nd team), a similar two year gap isn't exactly unreasonable, following the existing design-documentation of the original Persona 4, and being able to leverage some of the work done for P3Reload as well (As the original Persona 4 itself did with Persona 3). Atlus's teams aren't greenhorns to HD development anymore. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This will always be fucking insane, lol.  Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 122,880 Doskoi Panda said: What do yall think the name will be? P4 Rerun? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Rerun or Rewind Puffins said: I think I'm good with P4 Golden, but if it comes out on Gamepass I'll give it a go. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That would be ideal, still crazy Reload AND the expansion were on Game Pass Day 1  SaberVS7 Member Oct 25, 2017 6,554 MrConbon210 said: I was just under the belief that Atlus would want to alternate between remakes and new mainline games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Honestly going to disagree. Persona has become very BRAND™-driven, and remakes (And the various 3/4/5 spinoffs) like this leverage existing Brand-Power. I'd wager a significant amount of the time being spent around Persona 6's development is some significant focus-testing of characters and themes to create a distinct and strong brand-identity for it that they can milk via Spinoffs, Multimedia, and Merchandise for as many years to come as they have 3, 4, and 5. By the time Persona 7 is a thing, they might STILL be milking Persona 3. Persona honestly is a lot like Gundam at this point, where the "Flagship" media is really primarily a vehicle with which to sell even more stuff to superfans.  Puffins Member Nov 1, 2024 269 Lotus said: That would be ideal, still crazy Reload AND the expansion were on Game Pass Day 1 Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, I hope that happens again here. I bounced off the P3 Remake (too repetitive for me), but this should be more my pace.  mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,019 Hope the original OST makes it in this time   BrickArts295 GOTY Tracking Thread Master Member Oct 26, 2017 15,473 I wonder if they'll actually remake Golden. I'm guessing that they will since they did Answers but I'm not sure I want to know what they'll sell as DLC...   Kirby64 Member Aug 16, 2020 602 Lotus said: Rerun or Rewind That would be ideal, still crazy Reload AND the expansion were on Game Pass Day 1 Click to expand... Click to shrink... The credits are absolutely puny for a modern HD game, like sub-astrobot tier. https://www.mobygames.com/game/216878/persona-3-reload/credits/playstation-5/ I doubt P3R cost much to make. P4R is probably going to cost even less. They're not exactly losing much when it comes to Xbox sales either. mute said: Hope the original OST makes it in this time Click to expand... Click to shrink... The original singer is pretty rumored to be here this time. Yumi Kawamura apparently struggles with singing these days, which might be why she was replaced for P3R.  Zemoco Member Jan 12, 2021 2,423 Persona 5 remake before Persona 6.   mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,019 Kirby64 said: The original singer is pretty rumored to be here this time. Yumi Kawamura apparently struggles with singing these days, which might be why she was replaced for P3R. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I guess I just don't understand the need to re-record at all.   Friendly Bear Member Jan 11, 2019 3,392 I Don’t Care Where (Just Far) BK0X said: I'm a bit excited for it, but honestly, P4G was already perfect. I don't really feel like it needs a remake. I've spent so many hours in it, and going back for a fourth time feels tough.... unless they introduce some meaningful upgrades or fresh, brand-new content. Click to expand... Click to shrink... So, I'm a Persona novice, I'm admitting that up front, but from my perspective: I kinda disagree. Earlier this year I Platinum'd P3R and I absolutely loved it. I dove straight into P4G right after, and while I love the story and characters, it just really feels dated (especially right after playing P3R), IMHO. I actually paused after about 35 hours when I heard rumors P4 remake may be inbound. I'm just gonna start fresh whenever the remake drops.  OP OP nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,552 mute said: I guess I just don't understand the need to re-record at all. Click to expand... Click to shrink... to keep the persona concerts sounding fresh for another decade   Dalik Member Nov 1, 2017 3,718 Will not buy unless Yosuke gets a redemption into gay relationship arc   Phendrana Member Oct 26, 2017 7,789 Melbourne, Australia Super keen for this. Hopefully they go pure P4 and don't add most of the bad P4G extra content.   Sabin Member Oct 25, 2017 6,014 Desma said: Guess they'll sell the Golden extra dungeon as DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... The golden extra content is nowhere near meaty enough and structured to be sold as DLC.   Uncle at Nintendo 2nd Generation Uncle at Nintendo Member Jan 3, 2018 9,736 REMOVE MARIE   T0kenAussie Member Jan 15, 2020 5,866 So TES4R, P4R and E33 all in the same calendar year? What a wild year for rpgs  Soulflarz Member Oct 25, 2017 3,914 SaberVS7 said: Is it though? The gap between Persona 3 and 4 on PS2 was only two years. Not to downplay the work involved, but if they started around when P3Reload went gold (Or a bit before that, with a 2nd team), a similar two year gap isn't exactly unreasonable, following the existing design-documentation of the original Persona 4, and being able to leverage some of the work done for P3Reload as well (As the original Persona 4 itself did with Persona 3). Atlus's teams aren't greenhorns to HD development anymore. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh I'm not saying it's too soon in terms of like, actual development time, I just meant dear god p3r->metaphor->this in a short period is too much of the same formula for me in a short period of time. I think I might actually burn out on the series.  VXLbeast Member Nov 28, 2017 241 mute said: I guess I just don't understand the need to re-record at all. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm interested to see what they do, but I guess I mostly agree in 4's case. Soundtrack is already such a bop.   Last edited: 48 minutes ago BK0X Shinra Employee Member Oct 28, 2017 930 Friendly Bear said: So, I'm a Persona novice, I'm admitting that up front, but from my perspective: I kinda disagree. Earlier this year I Platinum'd P3R and I absolutely loved it. I dove straight into P4G right after, and while I love the story and characters, it just really feels dated (especially right after playing P3R), IMHO. I actually paused after about 35 hours when I heard rumors P4 remake may be inbound. I'm just gonna start fresh whenever the remake drops. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't mind you being a novice at all. I really hope you end up loving the series as much as I did. I'm not sure what feels dated to you, are you thinking mostly about the graphics and UI? That's probably the only thing I'd call "dated", but everything else still holds up beautifully even now! (Unlike P3, which definitely needed a remake!) But if the "dated" presentation makes it hard for you to enjoy P4G, then I totally understand. Hopefully, the remake will make it more accessible for you. P4G is definitely my favorite in the series, and I hope you'd enjoy it as much as I did.  mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,019 nsilvias said: to keep the persona concerts sounding fresh for another decade Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean sure have fun with that I guess, but lots of games let you pick what version of soundtrack you want to hear.   Xterrian Member Apr 20, 2018 3,507 One of the best OSTs ever. Bop after bop after bop.  Melpomene One Winged Slayer Member Jun 9, 2019 19,217 ventuno Member Nov 11, 2019 4,641 Marie disagreements on the first page. We're so back. Let's see that datamined Yosuke content materialize. We all know he's closeted and it could really smooth over some aspects of his character if they took this on in earnest.  Soulflarz Member Oct 25, 2017 3,914 ventuno said: Marie disagreements on the first page. We're so back. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We need 'the illusion ... of free choice ...' image asap, I can't find the relevant persona 4 one  Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 48,932 Kingdom of Corona This is probably a Xbox Showcase annoucement   ClearMetal Hey, it's that sheep! Member Oct 25, 2017 18,704 the Netherlands I'm ready. Would be nice to play it in Japanese for once; hopefully the voice cast stays the same (I believe it did for P3R?). I do hope it has all the Golden content. I like Marie and whenever Marie is not on the screen I ask: "Where's Marie?" (Seriously though I do like Marie)  Toddhunter Member Feb 22, 2025 252 Doskoi Panda said: What do yall think the name will be? P4 Rerun? P4 Rewind? P4 Replay? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'd go with: P4 Don't Worry We Removed The Marie Stuff Sorry About That MrConbon210 said: Feels awfully fast from P3 Remake to P4 Remake. Would have thought we would get some Persona 6 news first. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Got to keep people paying for those subscriptions  HylianSeven Shin Megami TC - Community Resetter Member Oct 25, 2017 21,638 I would not enable her either.  Melpomene One Winged Slayer Member Jun 9, 2019 19,217 It just comes off as so petty. I don't even like Marie that much, but people who actively dislike her are so intolerable about it, lmao. "Remove it from my game!!!" boo hoo.  Kirby64 Member Aug 16, 2020 602 Toddhunter said: Got to keep people paying for those subscriptions Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sega doesn't have a subscription though. . . . . yet  Toddhunter Member Feb 22, 2025 252 Melpomene said: It just comes off as so petty. I don't even like Marie that much, but people who actively dislike her are so intolerable about it, lmao. Click to expand... Click to shrink... In general I agree, but the context is a remake. You want to be at least excited by what they could do. Leaving in Marie would be like doing a P5 remake and still including the second half of the game. A missed opportunity to make it better. Kirby64 said: Sega doesn't have a subscription though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... No but the people who do want games churned out. Otherwise people might be sensible and only sub once a year. 

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Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,556 Midwest Game is playable via VPN right now   alienw15 Member Mar 23, 2024 19 Game has cutscenes locked at 30 FPS with bad frame pacing (even at 30hz), and forced huge black bars. It is awful. I was able to remove the black bars with Reshade ShaderToggler, but we need a mod to bypass the cutscene framerate ...  LabouredSubterfuge Member Oct 27, 2017 4,514 alienw15 said: Game has cutscenes locked at 30 FPS with bad frame pacing (even at 30hz), and forced huge black bars. It is awful. I was able to remove the black bars with Reshade ShaderToggler, but we need a mod to bypass the cutscene framerate ... Click to expand... Click to shrink... Lyall pls  logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,124 Just installed the game ready drivers. Lets gooooooooo!   shodgson8 Shinra Employee Member Aug 22, 2018 5,128 Excited to read some impressions. From the early overviews / benchmarks it sounds like the game is rather heavy on the higher-end settings.   GameAddict411 Member Oct 26, 2017 9,929 forcing FPS caps in cutscenes is ridiculous. What were they thinking?   alienw15 Member Mar 23, 2024 19 GameAddict411 said: forcing FPS caps in cutscenes is ridiculous. What were they thinking? Click to expand... Click to shrink... We need a cheat engine / reverse eng. guru ASAP :D  Atom Member Jul 25, 2021 15,081 Cutscene fps cap is wild Ubisoft copying Team Ninja/Rise of the Ronin lmao.  Tamaa Member May 16, 2021 1,218 The PC performance looks just as bad as it did with Outlaws. I saw a video of the game running on an RTX 4080, and it struggles to maintain 60 FPS at 4K, even with DLSS set to Balanced and RTX on Low. Why do they keep forcing native ray-tracing ? It makes no sense. Edit : View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3X35hUcoqk&t=  GameAddict411 Member Oct 26, 2017 9,929 Tamaa said: The PC performance looks just as bad as it did with Outlaws. I saw a video of the game running on an RTX 4080, and it struggles to maintain 60 FPS at 4K, even with DLSS set to Balanced and RTX on Low. Why do they keep forcing native ray-tracing ? It makes no sense. Edit : View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3X35hUcoqk&t= Click to expand... Click to shrink... You video you linked is of a an RTX 4070 and not a an RTX 4080  Dictator Digital Foundry Verified Oct 26, 2017 5,460 Berlin, 'SCHLAND Tamaa said: The PC performance looks just as bad as it did with Outlaws. I saw a video of the game running on an RTX 4080, and it struggles to maintain 60 FPS at 4K, even with DLSS set to Balanced and RTX on Low. Why do they keep forcing native ray-tracing ? It makes no sense. Edit : View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3X35hUcoqk&t= Click to expand... Click to shrink... "Forced"? You can turn it off. This game scales really low. Regardless of that you have to consider that this game uses the equivalent of nanite for its opaque geometry. Not having noticable LOD changes for such things has a cost higher than having constant LOD popin changes. (even then you can adjust the quality of the nanite equivalent in the option to make it pop more).  Tamaa Member May 16, 2021 1,218 GameAddict411 said: You video you linked is of a an RTX 4070 and not a an RTX 4080 Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fixed. Dictator said: "Forced"? You can turn it off. This game scales really low. Regardless of that you have to consider that this game uses the equivalent of nanite for its opaque geometry. Not having noticable LOD changes for such things has a cost higher than having constant LOD popin changes. (even then you can adjust the quality of the nanite equivalent in the option to make it pop more). Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fair enough. I just want to say that after KCD 2's stellar optimization (at least compared to recent PC games) ACS looks pretty rough.  Xiofire Prophet of Regret Member Oct 27, 2017 4,862 Hope the PC performance analysis is today so I can make the decision before the Amazon next day delivery on the PS5 version flips over.   TaySan SayTan Member Dec 10, 2018 36,254 Tulsa, Oklahoma Hopefully the game is not too vram hungry I want push all the settings up with the 5080   Ryudo Member Jun 19, 2024 1,147 Xiofire said: Hope the PC performance analysis is today so I can make the decision before the Amazon next day delivery on the PS5 version flips over. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is where I'm at lol. I'm waiting for a solid PC analysis so I can decide to bite on the Steam version or go PS5 Pro.  ProdigyZA Member Jun 9, 2024 1,311 Tamaa said: The PC performance looks just as bad as it did with Outlaws. I saw a video of the game running on an RTX 4080, and it struggles to maintain 60 FPS at 4K, even with DLSS set to Balanced and RTX on Low. Why do they keep forcing native ray-tracing ? It makes no sense. Edit : View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3X35hUcoqk&t= Click to expand... Click to shrink... Seems equivalent to console settings? PC performance isn't coming off bad.  terroradagio Member Dec 8, 2024 199 alienw15 said: Game has cutscenes locked at 30 FPS with bad frame pacing (even at 30hz), Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ugh this is a thing that really needs to go away. We are in 2025, devs.  Mickagau Member Dec 11, 2018 2,427 France I am surprised the game is Deck verified while requiring ray tracing...Outlaws is not supported mostly due to that. Curious to see the result once it is out.   NickMitch Member Nov 1, 2017 1,827 Found someone trying on low en gpu:s - 1660, 3060, 4060 Medium without RT, no upscaling on a 3060 seems really solid  PeacefulKillah Member Dec 18, 2024 143 Mickagau said: I am surprised the game is Deck verified while requiring ray tracing...Outlaws is not supported mostly due to that. Curious to see the result once it is out. Click to expand... Click to shrink... There's Santiago Santiago a SteamDeck youtuber that has an hour long analysis of how the game runs on SD. TLDR Seems to Run at a pretty solid 30fps, I'm pretty new to this site so don't know how to embed youtube videos.  YuriLowell Member Oct 26, 2017 4,370 Curious on 3080 10gb performance.   OP OP Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,556 Midwest FOV cranked, CA off. Phew. Playing on my 4 year old laptop with a 5900HS and 3070. 1440p, DLSS quality with FSR frame gen enabled, high settings and getting anywhere from 45-70fps. There's a bunch of fire early on so maybe it'll smooth out a bit lol.  maverick261 Member Nov 1, 2017 301 Dictator said: "Forced"? You can turn it off. This game scales really low. Regardless of that you have to consider that this game uses the equivalent of nanite for its opaque geometry. Not having noticable LOD changes for such things has a cost higher than having constant LOD popin changes. (even then you can adjust the quality of the nanite equivalent in the option to make it pop more). Click to expand... Click to shrink... Do you make a analysis of the PC Version? If yes when the analysis will be out? Deciding between PS5 Pro and PC (7800x3D, 4090 and 4K screen, but don't want to use FG), thats why I'm asking. Problem is I have to preorder because of the DLC.  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,760 Spain Running great on my 4070 Super with almost everything maxed out at 1080p with DLSS Quality and FG. Averaging 120 fps, it only goes down in scenes with many characters at the same time and it goes up to 160+ at times. Looks fantastic using the latest DLSS4 version too and it feels super smooth. Pretty happy so far!  alienw15 Member Mar 23, 2024 19 Greywaren said: Running great on my 4070 Super with almost everything maxed out at 1080p with DLSS Quality and FG. Averaging 120 fps, it only goes down in scenes with many characters at the same time and it goes up to 160+ at times. Looks fantastic using the latest DLSS4 version too and it feels super smooth. Pretty happy so far! Click to expand... Click to shrink... How does Frame gen behaves considering cutscenes are 30 FPS?  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,760 Spain alienw15 said: How does Frame gen behaves considering cutscenes are 30 FPS? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Cutscenes are still locked to 30 even with FG enabled.  Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,601 alienw15 said: How does Frame gen behaves considering cutscenes are 30 FPS? Click to expand... Click to shrink... FG probably turns off for cutscenes.  Native_Vel Member Jun 5, 2022 1,963 Nvidia better have my 4080 ready for me to clock in when this game is available on Geforce Now.   PeacefulKillah Member Dec 18, 2024 143 Greywaren said: Running great on my 4070 Super with almost everything maxed out at 1080p with DLSS Quality and FG. Averaging 120 fps, it only goes down in scenes with many characters at the same time and it goes up to 160+ at times. Looks fantastic using the latest DLSS4 version too and it feels super smooth. Pretty happy so far! Click to expand... Click to shrink... 4070Ti (which I have) is comparable to your graphics card or am I wrong? If that is the case could you please try it with the same settings but at 1440p and 4K for science and let me know? Would be highly appreciated.  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,760 Spain PeacefulKillah said: 4070Ti (which I have) is comparable to your graphics card or am I wrong? If that is the case could you please try it with the same settings but at 1440p and 4K for science and let me know? Would be highly appreciated. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The 4070 Ti is more powerful, I believe, so it should run even better. I unfortunately can't test it with higher resolutions because I have a 1080p monitor :(  Dictator Digital Foundry Verified Oct 26, 2017 5,460 Berlin, 'SCHLAND Tamaa said: Fair enough. I just want to say that after KCD 2's stellar optimization (at least compared to recent PC games) ACS looks pretty rough. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ACS is doing a lot more under the hood to make its graphics work, it is a lot more fine grained. That quality has a cost. Also for the love of god everyone, do not use the "ultra highest" settings in this game unless you have top tier kit. The RTGI scales from Low to Ultra High for a reason, so you can get RTGI at a much cheaper cost.  J_ToSaveTheDay "This guy are sick" and Corrupted by Vengeance Avenger Oct 25, 2017 22,205 USA Curious to see how the new 9070XT GPUs are handling this game with RTGI and RT reflections on. I'm feeling more and more compelled to return to PC gaming, and that feeling keeps climbing in the urge to do it sooner than later. If SteamOS can get a desktop debut by the end of the year (yes, I am aware of the existence of Bazzite but still have a mental block against "non-OEM" operating systems), I am currently curious how far I can take a full AMD build system, but I'm especially curious about games with RTGI as the intentional art style -- Indiana Jones seemed to fare okay on 9070 XT reviews that featured it, but still want to see results on other new games. I think I'd be targeting a AMD 9800X3D CPU+9070XT GPU build with 1440p resolution target in mind... I'm hoping to more or less avoid Windows and nVidia if I make a return. I'll probably eventually install Windows on its own separate drive, but a lot of what is driving me back toward PC gaming is my Steam Deck ownership and SteamOS, so SteamOS desktop rumors is kind of the last piece of the puzzle I need. SteamOS' quality of life by unifying a lot of system-level and hardware-level settings seamlessly within its own UI is kind of the entire thing that's really selling me on PC gaming again. The other thing I'm hoping to catch is how AC Shadows and other "RTGI-intended" titles perform on 9070XT, which seems like it has plenty of capability based on how it fares with Indiana Jones but more data never hurts.  Alvis Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 25, 2017 12,049 EU Forced 30 FPS cutscenes is absurd. Hopefully it gets called out on the PC DF review   Katbobo Member May 3, 2022 8,045 Add me to the group who is torn between PC and PS5 Pro. Hoping to see some direct comparisons between the two!   Manta_Breh Member May 16, 2018 2,969 Any word on how it runs on 3080 ti? I want the best graphics settings to run at 60 fps :(  Mickagau Member Dec 11, 2018 2,427 France PeacefulKillah said: There's Santiago Santiago a SteamDeck youtuber that has an hour long analysis of how the game runs on SD. TLDR Seems to Run at a pretty solid 30fps, I'm pretty new to this site so don't know how to embed youtube videos. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thanks, found some vids. yeah, it seems to run well. Ray Tracing is not mandatory, I was confused by the specs   Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 36,606 Runs pretty well on my 4080 super. Everything on max at 1440p and i average somewhere between 90-110 fps with DLSS and frame gen. RT settings seem to have a big impact but I'd rather go all out. Only complaint i really have is the cutscenes being locked to 30 fps.  TaySan SayTan Member Dec 10, 2018 36,254 Tulsa, Oklahoma Xando said: Runs pretty well on my 4080 super. Everything on max at 1440p and i average somewhere between 90-110 fps with DLSS and frame gen. RT settings seem to have a big impact but I'd rather go all out. Only complaint i really have is the cutscenes being locked to 30 fps. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How's vram usage? I want to turn all the settings up on my 5080   Deepo Member Oct 25, 2017 275 Norway Cutscenes locked at 30 is a huge bummer. Seems to be running well aside from that.   Enduin You look 40 Member Oct 25, 2017 13,023 New York Yeah really hoping for a cutscene unlock mod asap. Otherwise running pretty well maxed on 9800X3D and 4090 at 4k with DLSS Quality and FG on.   Soi-Fong Member Oct 29, 2017 2,122 Illinois Dictator said: ACS is doing a lot more under the hood to make its graphics work, it is a lot more fine grained. That quality has a cost. Also for the love of god everyone, do not use the "ultra highest" settings in this game unless you have top tier kit. The RTGI scales from Low to Ultra High for a reason, so you can get RTGI at a much cheaper cost. Click to expand... Click to shrink... And by top-tier kit you mean a 9800X3D + 5090 build right?  Dictator Digital Foundry Verified Oct 26, 2017 5,460 Berlin, 'SCHLAND Soi-Fong said: And by top-tier kit you mean a 9800X3D + 5090 build right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sure   Ring Dings and Pepsi Member Jan 23, 2024 1,485 Manta_Breh said: Any word on how it runs on 3080 ti? I want the best graphics settings to run at 60 fps :( Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is where I'm at as well. Hope it's not a deeply compromised experience on a 3080ti but from that I've seen it scales pretty well.  Byron Hinson Member Nov 14, 2017 1,310 UK Dictator said: ACS is doing a lot more under the hood to make its graphics work, it is a lot more fine grained. That quality has a cost. Also for the love of god everyone, do not use the "ultra highest" settings in this game unless you have top tier kit. The RTGI scales from Low to Ultra High for a reason, so you can get RTGI at a much cheaper cost. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You know they will. Then in turn they will complain that it's not optimised.   Robspassion Member Jan 10, 2019 108 The frame pacing seems to be really good. Apparently no shader compilation and also no traversal stuttering. It´s in German but you can easily translate it https://www.computerbase.de/artikel...2#abschnitt_das_frame_pacing_ist_ziemlich_gut   Roxas The Fallen Oct 28, 2017 4,778 Buenos Aires, Argentina Well, I guess I'll see how my 4090/7800X3D fares in the '4K extreme RT' thing as soon as it's downloaded. Any suggested VPNs?   Rivanov Member Mar 22, 2018 1,634 The Netherlands Dictator said: Nice. That's my system. 9800x3D with 5090 and 64GB DDR5. :) And I have the MSI MAG 341CQP QD-OLED since yesterday. So I guess I can play maxed out.  Matzpxl Member Jun 4, 2019 1,667 Brasília, Brazil The VPN trick works for the Steam version too?   ShabbadooJr Member Oct 27, 2017 2,023 Omaha, NE The game keeps crashing for me when using Ubisoft Connect/Ubisoft +. I've tried it twice using NordVPN and both times it only last about 10 minutes before it boots me back out.   TaySan SayTan Member Dec 10, 2018 36,254 Tulsa, Oklahoma Matzpxl said: The VPN trick works for the Steam version too? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Only for Ubisoft Connect  

Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Final warning, but the first post will be tagged . . . . . . . . . This is now the Spoiler Thread for XENOBLADE X. If you don't want to get spoiled put this thread on ignore.... Or leave! Why are you spoiling it for yourself?! D:< . . . . . . . . 🤐 To those who don't want to linger here or get spoiled too much: It's been implied through press footage already, but one major question appears to be answered: Yes, the new story content connects the mainline games to X. . . . . . . . . 🙈 🙉 🙊 Thanks for sharing RockmanBN. . Others have mentioned this looks pretty incomplete and it's hard to parse without sound and context. But it's definitely "beefier" than what we had going in the base game back on the WiiU (for those who don't know, the original game ended with the scene on the beach below).   Last edited: Mar 15, 2025 Mr.Fletcher Member Nov 18, 2017 11,868 UK As I said in the other thread, I need to see how the leaked footage fits into a larger whole because it's really difficult to piece together at the moment. It also makes me wonder how far we'll stray from the 'Klaus Saga' given what we see. I expected to see it all completely left behind come the next game. But now? I'm not sure. Maybe we really will get to see Malos again and Mythra's kid, who knows….  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 19,685 I only saw snippets and I have no idea what's going on which is good, but I'm excited. It's gonna be torture having to wait not only for release but also having to wait till the end of the game for answers 🥲   Quinton Staff Writer at TheGamer Verified Oct 25, 2017 22,935 Midgar, With Love Xenogears remake confirmed. ... No, but this is simultaneously intriguing and frustrating; we can piece together only the slimmest tidbits, as these are mere snippets of a broader whole, and lacking audio besides. Which is surely some kind of metaphor for Xeno in general, but I'm too distracted right now to make that work.  Metto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 12,327 The imagery in one of those videos is easily some of the most gnarly images they've done in the series so that's cool. Also interesting the Core in the Lifehold looks like a Gigantic Logos core which is interesting considering the Conduit is a non colored mass of light but here it's either a Logos core or a dark colored conduit which has some interesting implications either way. Will be cool to see how it comes together in the ending both for the context and how it'll tie into future Xenoblade content.  Skel1ingt0n Member Oct 28, 2017 11,227 I had no concerns clicking on this spoiler thread because I've always felt it HYPER obvious X would get retrofitted into the main trilogy. I'd be more gob smacked if that didn't happen. Sure, this is technically a spoiler... but it was the most telegraphed spoiler over the last 10 years ever. ... And now I bow out of this thread, lol  Neverx Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer Member Sep 17, 2020 3,804 Florida It's really hard to say what's going on in the clips but it looks like it's setting up the next trilogy? The conduit and Logos stuff being the remaining aspects from the Klaus trilogy.   Eintopf Member Jul 8, 2018 1,075 UK Is it known who the other new party members are? The party menu has 4 new slots and 2 of them have been revealed but the other 2 haven't.   Mr.Fletcher Member Nov 18, 2017 11,868 UK You could kind of see The Conduit and to a lesser extent the Trinity Processor appearing in the future - but the latter feels more difficult to do as the cores are actually tied to characters. The cores appearing in a kind of 'never land' in Future Redeemed can make sense, but I'm not sure how you'd kick the story on and keep those around. I only say all this because as said above, it looks like Logos? Could it be The Conduit?  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 19,685 Mr.Fletcher said: You could kind of see The Conduit and to a lesser extent the Trinity Processor appearing in the future - but the latter feels more difficult to do as the cores are actually tied to characters. The cores appearing in a kind of 'never land' in Future Redeemed can make sense, but I'm not sure how you'd kick the story on and keep those around. I only say all this because as said above, it looks like Logos? Could it be The Conduit? Click to expand... Click to shrink... The shape is that of the Conduit, and the type of glow resembles the Conduit too… but the Conduit was golden and this is purple. Maybe it signifies some kind of corruption?   Man God Member Oct 25, 2017 40,094 Next game is Xenoblade Perfect Works.   Hikari One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,117 Elysium I'm guessing the new content is worth it then as a massive Xeno fan? I hated the original X in terms of storyline. Didn't watch the video but just need a confirmation if I'll enjoy this or not.   OP OP Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Hikari said: I'm guessing the new content is worth it then as a massive Xeno fan? I hated the original X in terms of storyline. Didn't watch the video but just need a confirmation if I'll enjoy this or not. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Gotcha (sorta?) covered in the OP, Hikari! Dice said: Regardless, the big question is answered: The intention is indeed to connect the mainline games with X. Click to expand... Click to shrink... There's not too much to go on yet. But there does appear to be more meat on the story this time around.  Wayoshi Member Oct 27, 2017 1,024 Let Takahashi cook... an epic story continues   Hikari One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,117 Elysium Dice said: Gotcha (sorta?) covered in the OP, Hikari! There's not too much to go on yet. But there does appear to be more meat on the story this time around. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well that's all I needed. I'll bow out of these threads now. I guess I really will be buying DE!  Hellstruck Member Jun 29, 2022 2,129 Hard to say how I feel. Half of me wants the Klaus stuff to continue on and the other half would welcome a complete dive off the deep end into a whole new series. Judging by the small bits of stuff I've peaked at it seems that Takahashi is intent on continuing the 'Klaus' saga. History has proven that Takahashi just loves this kind of stuff. In the end it doesn't really matter because I'll play and most likely love whatever they put out. I'm up for anything really.  Charamiwa Member Oct 25, 2017 6,397 I'm guessing those videos will have some voice overs doing some massive lore dumps. It's like seeing the Nia scene in 3 without sound.   Yolkghost Member Oct 25, 2017 766 I'm okay with expanding on the klaus stuff as long as we just keep it as the core of the franchise and don't make it so that every future sequel has to directly build from what happens in 1-3.   Anteo Member Oct 25, 2017 4,171 Peru But he said the Klaus saga was over. But also Xenoblade X was released between 1 and 2, so it wouldnt count as a new game that is extending the saga.. maybe   Mr.Fletcher Member Nov 18, 2017 11,868 UK Aleh said: The shape is that of the Conduit, and the type of glow resembles the Conduit too… but the Conduit was golden and this is purple. Maybe it signifies some kind of corruption? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I had thought before XC3 that The Conduit being the ultimate antagonist could have been cool. I don't think it would have made any sense and I don't even know what it would look like, but the Trinity Processor being called upon to 'defeat' The Conduit might have been fun. Ultimately, I do think those characters will be left behind though… which I think is both probably good for the franchise, but sad for me personally.  OP OP Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Metto said: The imagery in one of those videos is easily some of the most gnarly images they've done in the series so that's cool. Click to expand... Click to shrink... My exact thoughts too. That...corpse[?] lady is sorta creepy and I love it Charamiwa said: I'm guessing those videos will have some voice overs doing some massive lore dumps. It's like seeing the Nia scene in 3 without sound. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It really reminded me of Nia's explanation for Aionios was born... I basically wonder if X is connected by the fallout of the worlds joining up?? Maybe some dimensional/timey-wimey shenanigans? View: https://youtu.be/JRYT8HlbBMY?t=250  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 19,685 Even though there seems to be some connection to the main trilogy, whatever is going on here seems grander than just a retread of the Klaus experiment lore. Let them cook!   OP OP Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Do we know who this is yet? I wanna just SPECULATE WILDLY and probably incorrectly that this is Mythra's kiddo (light fluffy hair, an eye scar similar to where Rex's is, and a similar facial hair setup). Otherwise I'm sure this is the fella on the beach with Lao. Or is he Mr "Outside Hire"? :P Waddles the Piggu said: Is that corpse related to KOS-MOS? Click to expand... Click to shrink... To me it looked either like the new girl with the funky ears or maybe even Elma's original alien form (which incidentally looks a LOT like KOS-MOS). Doubt they'd use a character that belongs to Namco so directly.   Last edited: Mar 14, 2025 Waddles the Piggu Member Oct 26, 2017 1,160 Is that corpse related to KOS-MOS?   Eintopf Member Jul 8, 2018 1,075 UK Dice said: Do we know who this is yet? I wanna just SPECULATE WILDLY and probably incorrectly that this is Mythra's kiddo (an eye scar similar to where Rex's is, and a similar facial hair setup). Otherwise I'm sure this is the fella on the beach with Lao. Or is he Mr "Outside Hire"? :P Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's probably Elma's co-pilot who seemingly died when the white whale was under attack in the opening cutscene.   OP OP Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Eintopf said: It's probably Elma's co-pilot who seemingly died when the white whale was under attack in the opening cutscene. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ....Gonna be honest: I totally forgot this plot point haha But yeah sounds about right.  Waddles the Piggu Member Oct 26, 2017 1,160 Dice said: To me it looked either like the new girl with the funky ears or maybe even Elma's original alien form (which incidentally looks a LOT like KOS-MOS). Doubt they'd use a character that belongs to Namco so directly. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ahh yeah, might be related to Elma. The overall face and hair just reminded me of KOS-MOS but the ear seems elf like and the body is male? That is some cool imagery though.   Neiteio Member Oct 25, 2017 26,642 Eintopf said: It's probably Elma's co-pilot who seemingly died when the white whale was under attack in the opening cutscene. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Elma's co-pilot... who happens to be a dimension-hopping adventurer ... named Rexxy McMythrason!   Zaiven ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 12, 2019 2,747 It looks like X is going to be connected to the numbered games through some sort of interdimensional shenanigans. Or maybe this guy is seeing visions of what's happening in the space where Earth should be while it was "missing" (remember that 1, 2, and 3 all take place in pocket dimensions that exist in the void of space where Earth was, while X takes place elsewhere in the universe while earth is gone). Eintopf said: Is it known who the other new party members are? The party menu has 4 new slots and 2 of them have been revealed but the other 2 haven't. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm confident that Elma's partner (who seems to be the guy featured in one of the two clips) is going to be one of them. As for the other... I'm leaning towards one of the Wrothians. Dice said: Do we know who this is yet? I wanna just SPECULATE WILDLY and probably incorrectly that this is Mythra's kiddo (an eye scar similar to where Rex's is, and a similar facial hair setup). Otherwise I'm sure this is the fella on the beach with Lao. Or is he Mr "Outside Hire"? :P To me it looked either like the new girl with the funky ears or maybe even Elma's original alien form (which incidentally looks a LOT like KOS-MOS). Doubt they'd use a character that belongs to Namco so directly. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm sure this is Elma's partner, who will also be the 4th new party member. I'm also wondering now if he could be the long-lost "kid of Mythra." Man God said: Next game is Xenoblade Perfect Works. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The next game should be called The Xenoblade Saga, Episode IV. (Fancy German subtitle optional).  Eintopf Member Jul 8, 2018 1,075 UK Zaiven said: As for the other... I'm leaning towards one of the Wrothians. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They seem the most obvious pick in terms of existing characters but it'd be weird to only get one of them in the party tbh. Neiteio said: Elma's co-pilot... who happens to be a dimension-hopping adventurer ... named Rexxy McMythrason! Click to expand... Click to shrink... Um actually it's clearly Tatsu after being turned into a human   Mr.Fletcher Member Nov 18, 2017 11,868 UK Also seems curious - but I suspect ultimately meaningless - that the order of the 'visions' goes XC, XC3 and then XC2. This is what speculating on Xeno lore does to you! lol Just to be clear, I don't think this is Rex's kid, but let's keep the speculation going!  OP OP Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Eintopf said: Um actually it's clearly Tatsu after being turned into a human Click to expand... Click to shrink... Don't even start with me, I love when this stuff happens. Persona 5 Morgana turning human? Love that shit, wish they kept it longer haha I did it for Riku and Mananana (last image of the set) 😎 View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCHoIbfpVII/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==   Zaiven ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 12, 2019 2,747 By the way, do we know where these two videos came from? They were kinda posted without any context. Eintopf said: They seem the most obvious pick in terms of existing characters but it'd be weird to only get one of them in the party tbh. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well, there's really only two candidates, the main guy and girl (names escape me). Since two of the new characters are confirmed female and the other (likely) new character is male, I'm assuming it'll be the male Wrothian, to make it two each. Unless it's someone totally different and we're all climbing up the wrong tree. Mr.Fletcher said: Also seems curious - but I suspect ultimately meaningless - that the order of the 'visions' goes XC, XC3 and then XC2. This is what speculating on Xeno lore does to you! lol Just to be clear, I don't think this is Rex's kid, but let's keep the speculation going! Click to expand... Click to shrink... I honestly wouldn't be a bit surprised if it is. It would help explain why they hid his face for so long (otherwise, there doesn't seem to be any reason to, since he's not someone we recognize). Then again, they also did that for Addam and Moebius when there wasn't any real reason to.   Eintopf Member Jul 8, 2018 1,075 UK Dice said: Don't even start with me, I love when this stuff happens. Persona 5 Morgana turning human? Love that shit, wish they kept it longer haha I did it for Riku and Mananana (last image of the set) 😎 View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCHoIbfpVII/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah it's always a bit of fun! And your art is fantastic as always! Zaiven said: Well, there's really only two candidates, the main guy and girl (names escape me). Since two of the new characters are confirmed female and the other (likely) new character is male, I'm assuming it'll be the male Wrothian, to make it two each. Unless it's someone totally different and we're all climbing up the wrong tree. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah I think maybe the most likely option is that it could be someone new entirely. Plus I think the Wrorthian's models are identical to the original? If they were gonna be recruitable I think they might have had a face upgrade (though they weren't that bad to begin with unlike the humans lol)  Zaiven ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 12, 2019 2,747 So I'm guessing that weird white thing in the second video is "The Great One" that Luxarr used to mention? Apparently it's a soul/life force animating the Vita (and possibly the other Ganglion Skells)? It seems that someone was sacrificed or ascended to a higher plane of existence or something in order to become that entity. Who knows, lol. That's what it seems like to me, at least. Also, it appears as though Earth is being restored somehow. One way or another, we're definitely going to get more information on the whole "Earth was destroyed in a space war between aliens" back story.  Wrexis Member Nov 4, 2017 28,771 Waddles the Piggu said: Is that corpse related to KOS-MOS? Click to expand... Click to shrink... That did cross my mind.  TLH Member Oct 29, 2017 229 Ugh, why do they have to do the lore dumps in this drawn style. That's like when Nia was explaining things in XB3 and I didn't like that at all. All other flashbacks to the past were properly animated (even ones that had no real relevance to the main plot), and only this one being different felt like they ran out of time and money at the end.   Zaiven ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 12, 2019 2,747 TLH said: Ugh, why do they have to do the lore dumps in this drawn style. That's like when Nia was explaining things in XB3 and I didn't like that at all. All other flashbacks to the past were properly animated (even ones that had no real relevance to the main plot), and only this one being different felt like they ran out of time and money at the end. Click to expand... Click to shrink... My first thought is that the budget was fairly low on this project.   Fendoreo1 Member Jan 1, 2019 17,865 Here is whats likely to be the final boss theme for the new story, quite the interesting name, and the song is amazing View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLRXFzMWHYg   OP OP Dice Member Oct 25, 2017 27,980 Canada Fendoreo1 said: Here is whats likely to be the final boss theme for the new story, quite the interesting name, and the song is amazing Click to expand... Click to shrink... That title 🫠 That theme That drum line matches the title screen theme nicely... and yea sounds epic.  Fendoreo1 Member Jan 1, 2019 17,865 Dice said: That title 🫠 That theme That drum line matches the title screen theme nicely... and yea sounds epic. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ok, the title and context may be fake. Seemingly this is the Ares intro theme and the title is pure fan speculation. Unsure atm, but that is looking likely based on the way this guy replies in the youtube comments  Zeal543 Next Level Seer Member May 15, 2020 7,068 Fendoreo1 said: Here is whats likely to be the final boss theme for the new story, quite the interesting name, and the song is amazing View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLRXFzMWHYg Click to expand... Click to shrink... Title is obviously fan made, we know what sawano's titles look like  Tsumami Member Feb 3, 2022 6,714 Dont really like X much so prob not getting it but here to see how they fit it into the broader main story   Fendoreo1 Member Jan 1, 2019 17,865 Zeal543 said: Title is obviously fan made, we know what sawano's titles look like Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah and its not the final boss theme lol, its the Ares intro theme   Zaiven ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 12, 2019 2,747 So where are the spoilers? Where's the discussion? Lol. Do we have anything more yet than those two brief videos?   Brawly Likes to Brawl Member Oct 25, 2017 16,202 Ryohei Suzuki's bedroom Zaiven said: So where are the spoilers? Where's the discussion? Lol. Do we have anything more yet than those two brief videos? Click to expand... Click to shrink... X is a very very long game that just got even more content added to it. Nobody has gotten far enough to see the full context of what's going on.   Zaiven ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 12, 2019 2,747 Brawly Likes to Brawl said: X is a very very long game that just got even more content added to it. Nobody has gotten far enough to see the full context of what's going on. Click to expand... Click to shrink... True, lol. I just thought there'd be more speculation on the two videos we do have. I did see somewhere that Neilnail can join after Chapter 5 and her affinity mission is after Chapter 11. And apparently the male Wrothian is one of the two remaining new party members, as the new Photo Saber art has the same name as one of his own arts.  diakyu Member Dec 15, 2018 18,683 Yeah I'm chilling waiting for more to come out before really trying to get into it, though I will say seeing stuff from the concept art is so hype. Not long now.   Leeness Member Oct 27, 2017 10,452 Never stop doing your thing, Takahashi. 🙏 lol Please connect Saga if you legally can (not just the Yuriev and vector name drops).  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 19,685 Leeness said: Never stop doing your thing, Takahashi. 🙏 lol Please connect Saga if you legally can (not just the Yuriev and vector name drops). Click to expand... Click to shrink... I bet his masterplan is eventually even connecting Gears. He's just biding his time until he can trick SquareEnix into agreeing.  

I'm playing through the Original Trilogy for the first Time and Man the Music is So Damn Good. Side note if your wondering about my Game thoughts I did not enjoy God of War 1 much as I found most encounters lacking. everything about the game felt dated besides the above mentioned great soundtrack God of War 2 is pretty phenomenal, I was worried because I don't like the Rhodes level but after it picks up steam and holds it through the whole Game. The Game is beautiful and Holds up amazing... Read more

JasperMyst Powered by Friendship™ Member Sep 25, 2023 677 I've been reflecting on the impressive lineup of quality first-party games Nintendo has delivered over the past few years. It's truly remarkable. I don't want to diminish Sony or Microsoft's efforts, as their games, tailored for more powerful platforms, often demand significantly longer development times due to their focus on graphical fidelity and technical complexity. In contrast, Nintendo prioritizes fun and accessibility, which allows for a faster-paced release schedule. In 2024, Nintendo released an impressive 10 first-party titles on the Switch, though their quality varied. Sony, meanwhile, offered four first-party releases for the PS5: two new titles, Astro Bot and Helldivers II, alongside remasters of The Last of Us Part II and Until Dawn. Microsoft also delivered four first-party titles for Xbox Series X|S: all new releases, including Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Senua's Saga: Hellblade II, Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024, showcasing a focus on original IPs. Compiling data from previous years would be overwhelming, but the contrast in 2024 alone highlights the distinct approaches. If I were to compile all the previous years it would honestly be overwhelming but it's still crazy to see the difference. In your opinion, which console provides the best first-party experience, and why? Does it matter to you at all? Would love a discussion around this topic.  defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,279 Austin Its Nintendo, it'll always be Nintendo but Microsoft is having a killer couple years and on any other console it'd be talked about non stop but xbox sells like shit and its their own fault so..   OP OP JasperMyst Powered by Friendship™ Member Sep 25, 2023 677 defaltoption said: Its Nintendo, it'll always be Nintendo but Microsoft is having a killer couple years and on any other console it'd be talked about non stop. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Really hoping to see more of double fine! It's been too many years since Psychonauts 2. They better be cooking good.  Platy Member Oct 25, 2017 30,585 Brazil anyone not voting nintendo is insane but i am very impressed with microsoft's input recently! Sony .... is not having the best of their days with all the studios closing =P  JRedCX Member Nov 10, 2020 983 It's terms of quantity yeah it's Nintendo. I'm not interested in a lot of their game but they are pretty good. As far as Sony and Microsoft, you omitted a lot of games. For PS Stellar Blade, Rise Of The Ronin, Concord (It's dead but they still release it), Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster and Lego Horizon. For MS Age Of Mythology and Ara for example as well.  Captain_Vyse Member Jun 24, 2020 7,092 Easily Nintendo.   Hexa Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 25, 2017 5,167 Even if your favorite franchise is from Sony or MS, you just have to give it to Nintendo due to the sheer volume of output and that output being consistently high quality.   Zool Member Oct 28, 2017 2,358 defaltoption said: Its Nintendo, it'll always be Nintendo but Microsoft is having a killer couple years and on any other console it'd be talked about non stop but xbox sells like shit and its their own fault so.. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. MS is delivering but for the media it's too late…   Biosnake Member Oct 25, 2017 14,307 Where is the "None of the above" option   Jaded Alyx Editor-in-chief at SpecialCancel.com Verified Oct 25, 2017 39,730 I don't think there's a big publisher anywhere that puts out as many games per year as Nintendo usually does. And they are typically of high quality.   OP OP JasperMyst Powered by Friendship™ Member Sep 25, 2023 677 Biosnake said: Where is the "None of the above" option Click to expand... Click to shrink... Will do.   Soapbox Member Oct 28, 2017 33,110 Last year it was Microsoft. And South of Midnight might be the best First party game so far this year so it might be too little too late but the output is finally starting to show.   Burt Fight Sephiroth or end video games Member Oct 28, 2017 9,472 I'm looking at Nintendo Metacritics for 2024, 2022, 2021, and I don't get it   Renna Hazel Member Oct 27, 2017 13,021 Very very very easily Nintendo. I'd take them over the other two combined.   GalvoAg Member Oct 30, 2017 2,544 Dallas Nintendo for me and it's really not close, they're the only games I play on there system. Sony after that but they have been lackluster for me this gen, they do have some bangers but have been getting away from single player which I love from them.  Boopers Member Nov 1, 2020 4,062 Vermont usa Nintendo consistently delivers good products.   Salikawood Member Dec 26, 2024 1,245 Sony makes good games that I like when they decide to release one ! But Nintendo is so way more consistent that's it's kinda crazy  SupersonicHypertonic Member Apr 20, 2022 3,372 Nintendo without a thought. Occasionally another might put out a strong line up like Sony in 2024 but overall Nintendo is unmatched in consistently putting out a steady flow great games in aloside its all timers.   Renna Hazel Member Oct 27, 2017 13,021 Burt said: I'm looking at Nintendo Metacritics for 2024, 2022, 2021, and I don't get it Click to expand... Click to shrink... In 2022 Nintendo published Pokemon Arceus, Kirby FL, Xenoblade 3, Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3, Pokemon S/V, Switch Sports, Mario Strikers, Fire Emblem Warriors. Plenty of those games scored over 80 on metacritic. I'd call it a really good year.   Modest_Modsoul Living the Dreams Member Oct 29, 2017 27,886 It helps if your first party projects doesn't developed with $200/300 million budget & took 6 to 7 years to make and still pulling high quality games/products.   DontHateTheBacon Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 27, 2017 14,134 No publisher, first party or otherwise makes as many great games as Nintendo does internally.   shintoki Member Oct 25, 2017 17,793 I think MS normally has a more interesting line up these days but its Nintendo still. Like Indiana, South of Midnight, Doom III, Flight Sim 2024, Avowed, and Expansions for their RTS all released in the past six months or very soon and I like the different genres. But I think Nintendo normally has the higher highs with their first party entries.   Angst Member Oct 27, 2017 4,148 If you asked me this during the PS4 era I would've said Sony honestly. If you asked me this during the late PS3 era I would've also said Sony. Now? It's Nintendo.  Platy Member Oct 25, 2017 30,585 Brazil JRedCX said: you omitted a lot of games. For PS Stellar Blade, Rise Of The Ronin Click to expand... Click to shrink... exclusive/money hating something is different from first party. Sony don't own the devs or the IP of stellar blade and rise of the ronin I THINK the Ara game is not developed/ip owned by a microsoft studio either.  JigglesBunny Prophet of Truth Avenger Oct 27, 2017 35,747 Chicago 1. Nintendo 2. Sony 3. A dead salmon 4. Microsoft Microsoft during the Xbox and Xbox 360 era? An absolute powerhouse. Microsoft since the Xbox One generation? We're lucky if we get one compelling first party title every other year. Though I don't know, I guess Bethesda and Activision titles count as first party titles now so that's not really fair to say. Feels like "cheating" to count them, but that's just because it's still all so new and absurd. I mean, they've got Doom. That's lapping whatever Sony and Nintendo put together this year or the next for me.  werezompire Zeboyd Games Verified Oct 26, 2017 14,825 I used to like a lot of Sony 1st party games. Now, not so much. In a better timeline, we'd have a new Tokyo Jungle, a Gravity Rush 3, Slitterhead would have had double the budget and would be praised as the brilliant game that is, the Wild Arms series would still be alive, and so on and so on. I do like Housemarque and the Spider-Man games are kind of fun. Astro Bot is overrated, but it's kind of fun. That's about it. As far as I'm concerned, Microsoft doesn't have any 1st party games. Not interested in the output of the studios they purchased and all their games are available on PC anyway. Nintendo is great.  nial Member Jan 25, 2025 694 JasperMyst said: In 2024, Nintendo released an impressive 10 first-party titles on the Switch, though their quality varied. Sony, meanwhile, offered four first-party releases for the PS5: two new titles, Astro Bot and Helldivers II, alongside remasters of The Last of Us Part II and Until Dawn. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What? And Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, Lego Horizon Adventures, Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, MLB The Show 24 and Concord (which was a big flop, but still counts)? And Until Dawn is a remake. Platy said: exclusive/money hating something is different from first party. Sony don't own the devs or the IP of stellar blade and rise of the ronin I THINK the Ara game is not developed/ip owned by a microsoft studio either. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They're the publishers. That's like saying that Bayonetta 3 here does not count: Renna Hazel said: In 2022 Nintendo published Pokemon Arceus, Kirby FL, Xenoblade 3, Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3, Pokemon S/V, Switch Sports, Mario Strikers, Fire Emblem Warriors. Plenty of those games scored over 80 on metacritic. I'd call it a really good year. Click to expand... Click to shrink...   JRedCX Member Nov 10, 2020 983 Platy said: exclusive/money hating something is different from first party. Sony don't own the devs or the IP of stellar blade and rise of the ronin I THINK the Ara game is not developed/ip owned by a microsoft studio either. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They are games published by Sony and Microsoft... What are you talking about?   Justin Iacobellis Member Oct 27, 2017 2,333 United States Angst said: If you asked me this during the PS4 era I would've said Sony honestly. If you asked me this during the late PS3 era I would've also said Sony. Now? It's Nintendo. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Agreed. Sony's output has slid downhill with respect to quantity, especially if remakes/remasters are not your cup of tea. However, Nintendo has managed to keep the Switch exciting year-after-year, even as the hardware has increasingly shown its age.  nial Member Jan 25, 2025 694 Justin Iacobellis said: Agreed. Sony's output has slid downhill with respect to quantity, especially if remakes/remasters are not your cup of tea. However, Nintendo has managed to keep the Switch exciting year-after-year, even as the hardware has increasingly shown its age. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Kind of ironic as remasters and remakes do make up for a good chunk of Nintendo's output.   Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,184 Melbourne, Australia Sony easily. They might not make as many games as Nintendo but I vastly prefer there output.  Justin Iacobellis Member Oct 27, 2017 2,333 United States nial said: Kind of ironic as remasters and remakes do make up for a good chunk of Nintendo's output. Click to expand... Click to shrink... While still keeping their catalog fresh with brand-new and (in my opinion) quality games. The extent of ports to Switch, especially those lifted from Wii U, are outnumbered by the amount of Switch exclusives.  Platy Member Oct 25, 2017 30,585 Brazil JRedCX said: They are games published by Sony and Microsoft... What are you talking about? Click to expand... Click to shrink... nial said: They're the publishers. That's like saying that Bayonetta 3 here does not count: Click to expand... Click to shrink... So a game like fit boxing can be first party in a region and 3rd party in another? Sorry but this doesn't work for me. I don't think just publishing makes something first party, sorry  Kratos2098 Member Feb 18, 2022 2,680 If you want numbers then Nintendo but a lot of the stuff they put out is mid tier like Princess Peach or the sports titles that are half baked. I mean not that many people are out here buying Another Code or Endless Ocean. Sony may not put out the quantity but I find their games stay with me a lot longer because the quality is so high whether that be an Astro Bot, God of War, Spider-Man, Horizon etc. There's a reason why their games win far more GOTYs than Nintendo does   rokero One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 415 Nintendo followed by Microsoft   Stormblessed Member Feb 21, 2019 1,491 Sony was cooking on ps4 but has fallen off. Nintendo is steady but only wows me every couple of years. Microsoft had my favorite last year(Indy) but has underwhelmed me this year. 3rd parties usually supply me with my favorite games.   TGB86 Member Jan 27, 2021 1,463 Easily Nintendo. But I do think the breadth and diversity of Microsoft's offerings are pretty impressive at this point (as you would hope, given how much they've invested in it). All three are pretty strong, really, but I find Sony's the least interesting.   Shaman Member Jan 18, 2024 3,405 Nintendo no doubt. Microsoft are starting to kill it recently Sony is doing alright but not their standard  mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 32,813 Gongaga Nintendo's the only one that I would buy a console solely for their games (And I did! The Wii U era was hell.) Sony has a few games that I like (Spider-Man, The Last of Us, Bloodborne) but against Nintendo it just doesn't compare. I could probably count the number of Microsoft games that I care about on one hand (Rare Replay, OG Ninja Gaiden 2, Hi-Fi Rush, Doom, Forza Horizon 5)  Mekanos ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 17, 2018 48,167 Nintendo is the main reason I play video games, so kind of an obvious choice for me.   JRedCX Member Nov 10, 2020 983 Platy said: So a game like fit boxing can be first party in a region and 3rd party in another? Sorry but this doesn't work for me. I don't think just publishing makes something first party, sorry Click to expand... Click to shrink... I didn't know that funding and publishing a game is not even consider one of their publisher's catalogue anymore. Crazy stuff /s   mrbogus Member Jul 14, 2019 3,435 These days its Sony for me. I can only take so many Mario and Zelda games. Sony offers more variety even if the output is sparse.   goflyakite Member Jul 21, 2023 1,416 Nintendo's quantity is impressive while still maintaining good quality, but basically every Switch exclusive I've played has underwhelmed me.   Killer Member Oct 27, 2017 2,862 Microsoft 1st party games kinda died with Xbox 360.   Neiteio Member Oct 25, 2017 26,641 mrbogus said: These days its Sony for me. I can only take so many Mario and Zelda games. Sony offers more variety even if the output is sparse. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This conveniently ignores that fact that Nintendo has like 10x the franchise variety, with series like Pokémon, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Kirby, DK, Metroid, etc.   Gamer @ Heart Member Oct 26, 2017 11,270 We are a year and a half into the MS acquisition spree FINALLY paying dividends because games take so long to make now. It's good eat'n, and the variety from genre and big/small great. Nintendo has been delivering for decades with only a few notably lean years in between. But obviously, their output covers a lot of IP and genre that it's rare it all aligns with one person's taste. Sony has been basically down to 1.7 games a year for the past 5 years. Unlike Nintendo, there aren't half a dozen smaller releases in between tent poles releases to fill in the gap There is clearly one 'winner' here in terms of output. For every Spiderman from sony or Bethesda release from MS, there are two releases like a new 3D Kirby or FE/Warriors from Nintendo and it's partners in between the big Zelda and Marios.  Creepy Woody Member Nov 11, 2017 2,766 Australia If you're asking right now, no contest, Nintendo.   Breadfan78 Member Dec 8, 2022 784 MS Nintendo 400 miles Then Sony I don't count 3rd party exclusives for Sony and they have nothing I'm interested in.  RobbRivers Member Jan 3, 2018 2,290 nial said: What? And Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, Lego Horizon Adventures, Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, MLB The Show 24 and Concord (which was a big flop, but still counts)? And Until Dawn is a remake. They're the publishers. That's like saying that Bayonetta 3 here does not count: Click to expand... Click to shrink... Are you sure Rise of Ronin suits like a full 1st party game? In console it is published by sony, but in pc by tecmo koei. Like death stranding, that finally was published on xbox and pc too by 505 games.  Foreign Jackass Member Oct 27, 2017 1,062 lol at the request for none of the above come on, now 

Salikawood Member Dec 26, 2024 1,234 Putt-Putt literally raised me. That purple car was my constant companion when I was 5-6, and I want a hit of the childhood nostalgia again, and I've NEVER played any of these other Humongous Entertainment properties. I have no doubt they are all amazing, and they're all on iOS and some are even on switch, so which should I try out as my next game?? I want to feel something !! Also, what is your favorite Putt-Putt outing? Putt Putt Saves the Zoo is maybe the best video game of all time  Jimnymebob Member Oct 26, 2017 21,946 I only played Freddi Fish, the second one if I remember correctly, and it was fine.   Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,280 Ibis Island While i've never played them, I really enjoyed watching Brutal Moose's reviews on them. Alongside other youtubers who grew up with them.   OryxTheBakinKing Member Feb 4, 2018 1,902 I loved the Spy Fox and Pajama Sam games growing up.   Iichter Member Oct 29, 2017 1,573 I've only played Spy Fox: Dry Cereal and it was great, probably my first point&click game I got from a Kellogg's box lmao, the French voice acting was superb.   smuf Member Oct 27, 2017 585 Loved these as a kid. Found out much later the company was founded by Ron Gilbert of Monkey Island fame.   tucah Member Oct 25, 2017 1,464 It was Putt Putt (particularly Zoo and Moon) and Fatty Bear for me.   quail_lad Member Aug 3, 2021 1,149 I grew up on the Backyard Sports games. I was pleasantly surprised to see the originals are on Steam now.   OP OP Salikawood Member Dec 26, 2024 1,234 OryxTheBakinKing said: I loved the Spy Fox and Pajama Sam games growing up. Click to expand... Click to shrink... my gut is telling me to try Pajama Sam first. He seems like the It Boy  DarkLordOtaku Member Jun 6, 2024 1,109 Upper Marlboro, Maryland They're all pretty good, but Spy Fox has some puzzles which are slightly better.   Apollo Corrupted by Vengeance Avenger Oct 25, 2017 9,812 Brooooo Putt Putt goes to the fucking MOOOOON THATS MY SHIT!!!!!