Sento Member Nov 1, 2017 6,395   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 30,019 WB i beg of you let Netherealm work on something new new   Moebius Member Oct 28, 2017 6,259 Give me a single player or coop mortal kombat action game instead.   Spine_Ripper Member Oct 25, 2017 984 SHAOLIN MONKS ALREADY HOLY FUCK   ultracal31 Member Oct 25, 2017 4,922 nsilvias said: WB i beg of you let Netherealm work on something new new Click to expand... Click to shrink... Be careful for wishing that as you could get this: WB "we heard you and here's something new! A NEW live service game!"  shadow_shogun Fallen Guardian Member Oct 25, 2017 18,643 Spine_Ripper said: SHAOLIN MONKS ALREADY HOLY FUCK Click to expand... Click to shrink... Seriously…   Ishaan Member Oct 27, 2017 1,771 Make Bruce the bad guy this time around, and put either Dick or Terry McGinnis in the suit. Nobody makes for a bettter villain than the guy who's always prepared for everything you could possibly conceive of. I want to see NRS write themselves into a corner and then write themselves back out of it.   Vagabond Member Oct 26, 2017 4,249 United States I'm actually okay with this. I'd me more excited for an Injustice game than another Mortal Kombat right now.   Mandos Member Nov 27, 2017 39,167 nsilvias said: WB i beg of you let Netherealm work on something new new Click to expand... Click to shrink... New War Gods announced   HockeyBird Member Oct 27, 2017 13,779 Probably a good idea to give MK a break for a bit and WB is probably hoping that the Gunn DC movie universe can help elevate the sales of their DC games.   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 30,019 Mandos said: New War Gods announced Click to expand... Click to shrink... Stranglehold 2   Lord Vatek Avenger Jan 18, 2018 24,692 Eh... I'm okay with a new DC fighting game but I fucking hate the Injustice universe so much.   Saturday One Winged Slayer - Shinra Employee The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 7,738 Ishaan said: Make Bruce the bad guy this time around, and put either Dick or Terry McGinnis in the suit. Nobody makes for a bettter villain than the guy who's always prepared for everything you could possibly conceive of. I want to see NRS write themselves into a corner and then write themselves back out of it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah i've said this is the only way to spin it, injustice but the timeline where bats loses it and not supes but also nah injustice 3 is so super unnecessary, i'd only like the potential comics made out of it because the injustice comics were surprisingly good  Dance Inferno Member Oct 29, 2017 2,727 Down. Loved Injustice 2 and was disappointed when they announced MK1 as the follow up to MK11.   Jus Do It ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 43,676 South Central hard to get excited for it if WB gonna cut support 18 months after launch   Galactic Specter Member Oct 28, 2017 6,534 NRS better change up the gameplay because if it's just Injustice 2 with more characters, it's gonna die real quick.   Mediking Final Fantasy Best Boy (Grip) Member Oct 25, 2017 22,443 St. Louis City, Missouri aka Persona 3's Dorm lol Injustice 3 will be great for the culture lol   Roliq ▲ Legend ▲ Member Sep 23, 2018 7,284 I can't take the story of Injustice seriously when the prequel comic had Batman act indignant at Superman from killing Parademons who were seconds from killing him and the heroes he was with at the time Like dude, they are mindless monsters, why the hell are you pissed about that?  Foolhardy Member May 4, 2024 3,315 nsilvias said: WB i beg of you let Netherealm work on something new new Click to expand... Click to shrink... Gremlins RTS  GTOAkira Member Sep 1, 2018 13,330 I just hope it does better than injustice 2 did in the fgc. Balance wise, it's probably nrs worst game.   Star-Lord Member Oct 25, 2017 7,951 Injustice 2 came out in 2017… by the time the 3rd game comes out I'll over ten years god damn!   LiK Member Oct 25, 2017 34,494 I'll watch the story mode on YT   Neo Ankh Member Oct 12, 2019 975 I doubt it's happening this year but it'd be wild if they're back to releasing a new game every 2 years.   Mandos Member Nov 27, 2017 39,167 Lord Vatek said: Eh... I'm okay with a new DC fighting game but I fucking hate the Injustice universe so much. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They should go really wild and start in like the Kingdom Come universe   Televoid Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Nov 28, 2024 1,417 Injustice, 3 Months of Support.   Tavernade Tavernade Moderator Sep 18, 2018 11,626 I'd be happy with another DC fighting game but I have very little interest in the Injustice universe anymore. Just give me a 'normal' DC universe to have people punch each other in.   NexusCell Member Nov 2, 2017 909 maximillian dood punching the air right now   GlitchyDegree Prophet of Truth The Fallen Dec 4, 2017 6,822 Lord Vatek said: Eh... I'm okay with a new DC fighting game but I fucking hate the Injustice universe so much. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Tavernade said: I'd be happy with another DC fighting game but I have very little interest in the Injustice universe anymore. Just give me a 'normal' DC universe to have people punch each other in. Click to expand... Click to shrink... These.   E-bite Member Oct 24, 2018 1,384 I'll only believe this if Ed Boon out of nowhere tweets "Johnny Cage and Kitana" like a few weeks before the game's official announcement. lmao.   MissedArrows Member Feb 6, 2025 220 Don't give me hope   Incubuster Member Oct 30, 2017 2,608 Mmm I feel like this was the game everybody didn't want. Oh well, another pass from me.   LossAversion The Merchant of ERA Member Oct 28, 2017 11,675 Honestly, I'm pretty over NRS right now. They make fun story modes but every single game since MKX has had some major issues that held the games back and post-launch support has been promised and pulled over and over again. Fool me thrice.   VoidPlot Member Nov 1, 2017 902 Give me shaolin monks.. please 🧎‍♂️   Rob Member Oct 25, 2017 5,469 SATX Ishaan said: Make Bruce the bad guy this time around, and put either Dick or Terry McGinnis in the suit. Nobody makes for a bettter villain than the guy who's always prepared for everything you could possibly conceive of. I want to see NRS write themselves into a corner and then write themselves back out of it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If Bruce is the bad guy then they are 100% going to use The Batman Who Laughs as the actual villain. DC can't help themselves with the most boring character ever.   Commander Shepherd Member Jan 27, 2023 93 I hope to the high heavens that it's true. I'd be really happy Injustice 2 was amazing  Platy Member Oct 25, 2017 30,810 Brazil +1 to "do anything EXCEPT the injustice universe" they already used everything they could of that world  maze001 Member Sep 18, 2024 613 Give it to me. Always love me some Injustice.   JCal Member Oct 27, 2017 9,631 Los Alfheim Been waiting so fkn long. I'm there no matter what 😭   secretanchitman One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 9,881 Chicago, IL Great news! I enjoyed the first two games so bring on IJ3!   VariantX Member Oct 25, 2017 18,008 Columbia, SC Lord Vatek said: Eh... I'm okay with a new DC fighting game but I fucking hate the Injustice universe so much. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Agreed. Playing the second one just re affirmed my feelings that ive had my fill of that universe. I would take an MK vs DC 2 over IJ3 at this point.  Strings Member Oct 27, 2017 34,483 Will be a bummer not getting Conroy in this. Part of the appeal of Injustice (and DC games in general) for me is getting the DCAU band back together. Also young Steve Martin-looking Superman again or I riot.   KDC720 Member Oct 25, 2017 4,028 I'd be down for Injustice 3, especially with Gunn's DCU about to take off I think there's going to be more of a demand for it. But I'd also like to see Netherrealm work on something that isn't MK or IJ as well.  AnimeJesus Member Oct 27, 2017 5,454 nsilvias said: WB i beg of you let Netherealm work on something new new Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nah…something new is too risky. I'm sure Netherealm likes making money too. Besides, you assume they don't want to make an injustice 3. I suppose they could make a Hogwarts Fighter though, that would be pretty dope.  LongDongJunon Member Nov 13, 2017 1,993 nsilvias said: WB i beg of you let Netherealm work on something new new Click to expand... Click to shrink... WB: View: https://giphy.com/gifs/no-bugs-bunny-fXnRObM8Q0RkOmR5nf  Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 93,396 Houston, TX Assuming this is true, I'd honestly prefer a DC fighting game completely divorced from the Injustice continuity.   ThatMeanScene The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 10,728 Miami, FL Sento said: I like that they feared people wouldn't get it so their follow-up tweet is just '3'. 🤣  Neonep Member Oct 25, 2017 6,286 I just want them to make whatever will be the most successful.   MinerArcaniner Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Oct 29, 2017 7,434 Neoxon said: Assuming this is true, I'd honestly prefer a DC fighting game completely divorced from the Injustice continuity. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Same. The whole "Superheroes but EEEEEEVIL" routine is old hat.  Graven Member Oct 30, 2018 4,547 I don't mind Injustice 3, but I wish they had the opportunity to work on something else (another genre), but it's not up to them.   TheKupoxBooper Member Apr 5, 2022 2,014 I love me some Injustice but I will stand and die on this hill that Injustice ruined the gameplay n Mortal Kombat games going forward. Also a sidenote, I think Max didn't like MK11's gameplay cause it felt like Injustice and the gameplay is kinda slow but ALWAYS praised MKX/MK9's gameplay due to how in your face it is, I still calling this leak BS with all due respect, WB said MK is a priority, then I'm sure it'll be just that. As much as I'd like a Injustice 3 as I still think Injustice 2 is a beautiful game, I doubt we will get one unless MK fully goes on a big break.  

Praedyth Member Feb 25, 2020 8,580 Brazil There's no way it won't View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYuzjGv8hBU   Transistor The Walnut King Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,615 Washington, D.C. It already did. Fucking love Starship Troopers.  neon/drifter Shit Shoe Wasp Smasher Member Apr 3, 2018 4,561 It will. That was a neat video thanks for sharing.   Kromis Member Oct 29, 2017 8,090 SoCal Transistor said: It already did. Fucking love Starship Troopers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... One and done!  Genesius Member Nov 2, 2018 20,514 If I were them, I'd have one central Helldiver that we follow and every other Helldiver in the movie is a celebrity cameo that gets horrifically waxed in less than two minutes.   RetroFart Member Jul 23, 2022 500 Transistor said: It already did. Fucking love Starship Troopers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I clicked into the thread wondering how long before this was stated Thank you  Khanimus Avenger Oct 25, 2017 46,398 Greater Vancouver Will it, though?   OP OP Praedyth Member Feb 25, 2020 8,580 Brazil Genesius said: If I were them, I'd have one central Helldiver that we follow and every other Helldiver in the movie is a celebrity cameo that gets horrifically waxed in less than two minutes. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We're definitely getting a scene where one Helldiver lands, go to explode inside enemy lines and another one drops   rsfour Member Oct 26, 2017 19,525 Dunno, those drop pods look like they're easy to pick off, and then you've got ships falling on top of you too.   MegaSackman Member Oct 27, 2017 20,626 Argentina That was a great video.   Modest_Modsoul Living the Dreams Member Oct 29, 2017 28,122 With some (huge huge) luck, maybe it'll become PS Productions first $1 billion film. Or not.  texhnolyze Shinra Employee Member Oct 25, 2017 26,354 Indonesia Are you sure? That video is just mostly CG shots. In a movie, you'll have to deal with actors doing the acts, without their helments and all that. That will not be very Helldivers-y to me.  PLASTICA-MAN Member Oct 26, 2017 29,155 There is a movie? It seems there will be a movie about every game. I think Helldivers should be a series imo, not just a movie. There is a lot happening.  Burt Fight Sephiroth or end video games Member Oct 28, 2017 9,600 honestly way too depressing to think about in the context of that AI and education thread   Samaritan Member Oct 25, 2017 7,151 Puyallup, Washington I hope to God we get a Armageddon/Deep Impact or Volcano/Dante's Peak situation with a Helldivers movie and the Starship Troopers remake.   Cartwynd Shinra Employee Member Sep 14, 2023 748 I don't think I'm going to be able to get over how much of a ripoff of Starship Troopers it is and the fact that it will only exists because of flash in the pan success. Deeply cynical movie.   take_marsh Member Oct 27, 2017 8,216 I'm hoping for a lot of slapstick moments between some insane off-the-balls action.  

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DamageEX2 Member May 20, 2024 1,226 After seeing the recent trailer for Expedition 33, i have been noticing a decent amount of hype and antecipation, but im noticing how the game avoid the FF artsyle or style of the characters, to show something more realistic, just like the recent Resident Evil games. Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 - Cast Reveal Trailer | PS5 Games https://store.playstation.com/concept/10008503/Once a year, the Paintress awakens to inscribe her cursed number on the monolith.And everyone of that age vani... m.youtube.com All this make me think, should Square change the artsyle for the mainline FF games to something like this? Would this help reach more people that are not fans of the look of the characters in Final Fantasy? I notice a lot of people and content creators fans of WRPGs,that dont care at all about FF, but when a new From Software game or Dragons Dogma 2 releases, they are there day 1. I dont know if making all this, will make these people care or buy the game, but maybe if it works out, it can make the series reach a new audience.  KamenSenshi Member Nov 27, 2017 2,135 No. Other things exist.   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,994 i mean ffs realism is already putting of some jrpg fans. ff realism is appealing to mainstream audiences already just not the games themselves. crpg fans not like ff is just crpg wrpgs fans not liking how little player choice jrpgs have plus the animeisms   Theswweet RPG Site Verified Oct 25, 2017 7,271 California If anything, they should double down. Anime and Japanese media is mainstream worldwide these days.   AuthenticM Son Altesse Sérénissime The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 35,104 no.   FrostweaveBandage Unshakable Resolve Member Sep 27, 2019 9,818 No   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,732 Isn't that what FF XVI was?   Keym The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 9,678 Atlus jrpgs sell a lot and they don't have a "western" artstyle. So no.   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 24,014 ff16 already basically did that   The Quentulated Mox Corrupted by Vengeance Member Jun 10, 2022 6,550 The thing keeping buyers away is not the art style And, frankly, I would be much less interested in FF17 if they go the cel-shaded anime designs like every other jrpg  ReyVGM Author - NES Endings Compendium Verified Oct 26, 2017 5,803 Isn't that what FF has been doing for a while already?   Aaronrules380 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 24,353 If anything making it more anime would probably help more. The mainstream taste nowadays tend to lean towards more stylized games. Like stuff like Fortnite or Minecraft don't have realistic art styles   mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,310 They could be attracting larger audiences by making something that runs on a Nintendo handheld, the art style is irrelevant.   404LinkNotFound Member Oct 27, 2017 10,602 Isnt that FF16 did tho? Also japanese art styles are mainstream these days  Lobster Roll signature-less, now and forever™ Member Sep 24, 2019 40,372 In my opinion, they need to go with something far more distinct and varied for their artstyle and cast. The less realistic and more stylized their games, the better. They need to go even further in on making things feel like a fantasy. Give me bright colors, unique outfits, very obvious job/classes, and have characters stand out in a way that you want to know more:   strangelove777 Alt account Banned Nov 23, 2023 1,570 They should make it more anime.   Sander VF Banned Oct 28, 2017 26,876 Tbilisi, Georgia FFXVI was already going for that aesthetic, no?   Cheesecake Banned Oct 12, 2024 126 Outside of FF7 modern Final Fantasy has been pretty realistic in character design. Personally I'd rather they go back to the art direction of FFX. Have the characters look truly fantastical.   Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,675 Melbourne, Australia No. DamageEX2 said: Would this help reach more people that are not fans of the look of the characters in Final Fantasy? Click to expand... Click to shrink... And the millions of fans that love the existing looks of the series?  Elyian Member Feb 7, 2018 3,494 Theswweet said: If anything, they should double down. Anime and Japanese media is mainstream worldwide these days. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Been saying this for a minute now.   Kutaragi Member Sep 3, 2020 800 ITALY Aaronrules380 said: If anything making it more anime would probably help more. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This.  sir_crocodile Member Oct 25, 2017 24,587 they already did that and it appealed to less people not more lol   Brodo Baggins Member Oct 27, 2017 5,598 Expedition 33 will probably sell like a million copies, 2 million max. The art style is probably FF's biggest strength tbh. If anything they should go further with Japanese stylization. Anime is far more mainstream than ever these days. I think the biggest thing for FF as a franchise is they need to COMMIT. Every mainline game since the start of the PS3 era has felt severely compromised in some way. FFXVI is the closest it's felt to a "complete" game and it feels aggressively scoped and does not commit to the storytelling style and tone it sets out in the prologue throughout. FFVII Remake and FFVII Rebirth feel like complete games, but the whole chunking up of FFVII into 3 games still gives that feeling of compromise.  Cheesecake Banned Oct 12, 2024 126 The Quentulated Mox said: The thing keeping buyers away is not the art style And, frankly, I would be much less interested in FF17 if they go the cel-shaded anime designs like every other jrpg Click to expand... Click to shrink... What if it was Amano style? There's more than one anime art style.  The Unsent Member Oct 25, 2017 22,398 I think they should go for a more fairytale-esque aesthetic. I think there is potential for a renaissance there after how dark the last two mainline Final Fantasy games were.   Renteka-Bond Chicken Chaser Member Dec 28, 2017 6,016 Clearwater, Florida God no, them going so hard into Western medieval blandness in 16 was one of the worst parts of the game for me. Stuff like 8, 13 and, if you squint, 15 with their sort of future fantasy (or in 8's case, contemporary) works, but 16 completely missed the mark and the big appeal of Clair is all the wacky timeywimey otherworld vibes of the environment, not the realistic people.  Aaronrules380 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 24,353 Realistically, what helps something like the from soft games get so big is that the structure and gameplay loop was very streamer friendly and that's huge among younger players nowadays. Story heavy games are always going to be at some disadvantage in that regard, even if there's a niche even within streaming for those types of games Dragon's dogma isn't really that big. II did similar numbers to the larger JRPG franchises that aren't DQ, FF, or pokemon, it's not some massive mainstream hit  Deleted member 125476 Sep 8, 2022 2,818 making FF even more drab would just hurt it even more if anything it needs to get more stylized and interesting cos it's been one of the blandest JRPG franchises aesthetically for a while now  Quinton Verified Oct 25, 2017 23,072 Midgar, With Love I don't think that would work.   Hikari One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,196 Elysium I mean, we just got that with FFXVI and clearly it didn't work so no? I would much prefer if they go back to a more colourful artstyle.   Majunior Member Jun 20, 2019 2,118 Aaronrules380 said: If anything making it more anime would probably help more. The mainstream taste nowadays tend to lean towards more stylized games. Like stuff like Fortnite or Minecraft don't have realistic art styles Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is true. I'm noticing a lot of big GAAS like Genshin, Valorant, and Overwatch take this approach.   MoonCrow Member May 27, 2024 146 They've changed art styles like thirty times now so this reads as more like "should they make it look less Japanese"   Xwing This guy are sick of the unshakeable slayer Member Nov 11, 2017 11,594 WE'RE SO BACK   OP OP DamageEX2 Member May 20, 2024 1,226 Sander VF said: FFXVI was already going for that aesthetic, no? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not realistic enough, still stylized. Something like God of War its an easier sell for the casual audiences because of the aesthetic and visual that FFXVI with the game look.   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,624 Clair Obscur's art style is already pretty close to FFXVI's and it didn't help. I don't think going more anime would help either, though. The series is just old.  DoradoWinston Member Apr 9, 2019 8,362 i genuinely love the look of 7R would love it if they kept it that way for the main series but for any side games they should go crazy with different styles   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,732 Majunior said: This is true. I'm noticing a lot of big GAAS like Genshin, Valorant, and Overwatch take this approach. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think that's because they need to run on weaker hardware like phones   Aaronrules380 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 24,353 Majunior said: This is true. I'm noticing a lot of big GAAS like Genshin, Valorant, and Overwatch take this approach. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I feel like there's a lot of people stuck in the past in this regard. Trends have changed. When we were young hyper realistic styles were the vogue because they were great at showcasing growing tech, but as tech has hit the point of diminishing returns, realistic games already look really good, and the indie scene has grown we've reached a point where art style has become king because it's much easier (and frankly cheaper) to stand out with that then by trying to pump up the graphics for marginal improvements   brinstar Member Oct 25, 2017 12,088 If anything I wish it was more anime/cartoony. FF7R has this realistic look to it but the characters animate like cartoon dolls and it makes the whole thing look so uncanny outside the higher budget cutscenes. The Moogles look disgusting lmao.   Squarealex Member Nov 11, 2017 1,809 I like FF16 art-style. Much more than the anime style Division 1 doing since FF13.   Koklusz Member Oct 27, 2017 3,915 I really don't think art style is an issue here.   Graven Member Oct 30, 2018 4,545 I'm under the impression that this is what they were attempting since FFXV.   NinjaScooter Member Oct 25, 2017 60,644 FF doesn't really have an "art style" they constantly change that shit and the most recent one was very western fantasy aesthetic. This thread feels like someone who stopped playing FF games after the original 7.   Necron ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 9,810 Switzerland Nope   Sander VF Banned Oct 28, 2017 26,876 Tbilisi, Georgia DamageEX2 said: Not realistic enough, still stylized. Something like God of War its an easier sell for the casual audiences because of the aesthetic and visual that FFXVI with the game look. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You cite games like Elden Ring which are similarly stylized.   Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 2,251 I think the male characters in 16 looks pretty good and modern, but the facial animation and whatnot can always be improved   Dark Knight One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 21,295 Lobster Roll said: In my opinion, they need to go with something far more distinct and varied for their artstyle and cast. The less realistic and more stylized their games, the better. They need to go even further in on making things feel like a fantasy. Give me bright colors, unique outfits, very obvious job/classes, and have characters stand out in a way that you want to know more: Click to expand... Click to shrink... THIS THIS THIS I've been saying this for the past couple years. This shit right here is peak Final Fantasy, and is exponentially more appealing than the same derivative style they've been employing for the past two decades to some degree, in the mainline series anyways. You want to hook in younger players? Speak to them through color and form! Experiment with art style with the same cavalier attitude you experiment with gameplay mechanics.  GalaxyDive Member Oct 25, 2017 5,233 Yeah dunno why this is being framed as a "should?" when the franchise literally just did this with XVI to no particular success. Chasing the western medieval dragon is not something FF should continue doing.  NinjaScooter Member Oct 25, 2017 60,644 DamageEX2 said: Not realistic enough, still stylized. Something like God of War its an easier sell for the casual audiences because of the aesthetic and visual that FFXVI with the game look. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Clair Obscur is also A) not realistic and B) very stylized.  YohraUtopia Member Apr 1, 2021 1,396 isn't FFXVI kinda this already? I guess I don't fully understand what's in question. Art style does not seem to me the principal problem with FF Brodo Baggins said: I think the biggest thing for FF as a franchise is they need to COMMIT Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think this is right. Like FFXVI should have just gone straight full action game and stuck to its political intrigue stuff instead of defaulting back to bog standard cosmic battle. FFXV was totally ok but also didn't fully commit to either its open world or the 'darker'' DNA of its XII vs roots. On the flip side, the VII remakes so far are doing great at committing and playing with an interestingly blended art style but honestly people may call it bloated but Rebirth totally leans into just how both wacky and serious a FF can be at the same time as the OG did too. It, well, commits. 

vicegold Member Oct 27, 2017 464 PlayStation Executive Jade Raymond Leaves Studio She Founded on Bloomberg.com PlayStation leadership didn't give Haven staff a reason for her departure, but it came several weeks after an external test of Haven's first game, the online shooter Fairgames, according to people with knowledge of the matter. Some developers at Haven were concerned about how the game was received and its progress, said the people, who asked not to be identified because they aren't authorized to speak publicly. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Marie-Eve Danis and Pierre-François Sapinski are now co-heading the studio  Last edited: Yesterday at 5:27 PM Max|Payne Member Oct 27, 2017 9,836 Portugal Oh christ, I almost read something else. My heart jumped a bit. Edit: OP changed the title. The original could almost be misread for something far more tragic.  CloseTalker Sister in the Craft Member Oct 25, 2017 38,101 Does not inspire confidence in the one game they have announced   NinjaScooter Member Oct 25, 2017 60,644 article is paywalled.   Mesoian ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 28, 2017 31,672 OH FUCK, I didn't realize she was doing FairGame$. Welp...  SirKai Member Dec 28, 2017 10,146 Washington Now, will Fair Game Dollar Sign actually release?   Yeeboh Member Jul 3, 2024 1,756 Not again   Ant_17 Member Oct 28, 2017 2,903 Greece Fair games, unfair jobs   Uncle at Nintendo 2nd Generation Uncle at Nintendo Member Jan 3, 2018 9,819 Her company, Haven Studios, is developing an online shooter title called Fairgames Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ruh ruh Raggy  Zaheer Member Oct 27, 2017 2,392 raspberrymousse Member Mar 19, 2021 5,299 Sony really miscalculated hard with its live-service push   wagon Member Jan 6, 2025 413 Now I'm extra curious what the game is gonna look like lol   Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,385 Holy fuck   Shard Shinjuku Member Oct 25, 2017 31,560 Tampa Jade just can not catch a break.   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,614 Considering we've seen literally nothing of the game since it was originally revealed, I can't really bring myself to have much of a reaction to this. Gotta wonder if Jade's just gonna pop up with another new startup studio, join an existing studio or just peace out of the industry entirely at this rate. The chances seem roughly equal for all three options.  Pai Pai Master Member Oct 25, 2017 37,139 Atlanta GA Well then.   GDGF Member Oct 26, 2017 9,130 It's happening again.   krazen Member Oct 27, 2017 15,550 Gentrified Brooklyn The GaaS goldrush is feeling more like a mudslide.   Strike Member Oct 25, 2017 30,510 Uh-oh.   Genesius Member Nov 2, 2018 20,500 They're about to announce it's canned and she's getting out now.   th1nk Member Nov 6, 2017 9,445 I am shocked… well not that shocked   Dust C H A O S Member Oct 25, 2017 40,938 FairGame$ is gonna get shitcanned, I can feel it.   OhhEldenRing Member Aug 14, 2024 2,774 Suspect there's something wrong with the direction of Fairgame$ and although I have nothing to base this on why else would she leave   Nameless Hero Member Oct 25, 2017 23,332 Jason, you keep misspelling Fairgame$ as Fairgames for some reason   CupOfDoom Member Dec 17, 2017 5,150 it came several weeks after an external test of Haven's first game Click to expand... Click to shrink... that seems auspicious.   Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 27,949 Midwest Concord V3   Lashley <<Tag Here>> Member Oct 25, 2017 65,317 Jesus wept   poklane Member Oct 25, 2017 32,002 the Netherlands Yeah, nobody should be surprised if Fairgames gets canceled and Haven gets shut down. Reveal trailer was only good for putting people to sleep, and the 2 years of silence since then is telling.   DrScruffleton Member Oct 26, 2017 14,833 I'll be shocked if fairgame comes out some day   Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 28,123 The year is 2014. Jade Raymond has left her studio. The year is 2018. Jade Raymond has left her studio. The year is 2021. Jade Raymond has left her studio. The year is 2025. Jade Raymond has left her studio. (yes I know these circumstances were all different, no I am not trying to suggest anything with this post)  dex3108 Member Oct 26, 2017 24,707 She really can't release game anymore. She didn't released game basically since she left Ubisoft.   Mivey Member Oct 25, 2017 20,602 Someone clearly put a gaming vodoo curse on that poor woman. Any project she touches just withers and dies.   SirKai Member Dec 28, 2017 10,146 Washington Isn't this the like, third or so new studio / project she was involved with in the past decade that didn't launch? Though this might still end up releasing I guess.   maze001 Member Sep 18, 2024 596 Oh man It's been like a slow motion car crash ever since Concord  Fisty Member Oct 25, 2017 22,537 Well there goes any hope i had for Fair Game$   Lepi Member Mar 24, 2020 886 Another disastrously managed project from the looks of it.   Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,394 but it came several weeks after an external test of Haven's first game, the online shooter Fairgames, according to people with knowledge of the matter. Some developers at Haven were concerned about how the game was received and its progress Click to expand... Click to shrink... Uh oh   dom ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 25, 2017 12,366 The falloff of Jade Raymond is crazy   egg The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 7,642 maze001 said: Oh man It's been like a slow motion car crash ever since Concord Click to expand... Click to shrink... How so? Lol.  Threadmarks No more $ for Fairgames New Index jschreier Press Sneak Fuck Verified Oct 25, 2017 1,272 Nameless Hero said: Jason, you keep misspelling Fairgame$ as Fairgames for some reason Click to expand... Click to shrink... I guess I buried the real scoop here, but they dropped the $. Also, here is a gift link so people can actually read this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...9.qOIF32mVNJUCz17mJYYZM-YWpEEYhCcjFt6lm8BeeFo  New Index GTAce Member Oct 27, 2017 4,579 Bonn, Germany Fairgame$ and Marathon will complete the Concord trilogy.   Tsunami561 Member Mar 7, 2023 5,327 Okay who's next in line to give her 300m dollars   Stibbs Member Feb 8, 2023 4,229 The 518 holy shit the L's for Sony's GAAS games keep coming, I genuinely think Fairgames might get Hyenas'd   pswii60 Member Oct 27, 2017 28,776 The Milky Way I hope the rest of the team can survive this. They already had to go through the Google Stadia shit. Lukar said: The year is 2014. Jade Raymond has left her studio. The year is 2018. Jade Raymond has left her studio. The year is 2021. Jade Raymond has left her studio. The year is 2025. Jade Raymond has left her studio. (yes I know these circumstances were all different, no I am not trying to suggest anything with this post) Click to expand... Click to shrink... You are though aren't you   EVA UNIT 01 Member Oct 27, 2017 7,198 CA Its not releasing   wagon Member Jan 6, 2025 413 jschreier said: I guess I buried the real scoop here, but they dropped the $. Also, here is a gift link so people can actually read this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...9.qOIF32mVNJUCz17mJYYZM-YWpEEYhCcjFt6lm8BeeFo Click to expand... Click to shrink... NOOOOOOOOO THE ONLY THING ABOUT THE GAME THAT ACTUALLY STOOD OUT TO ME ON FIRST IMPRESSIONS   DrScruffleton Member Oct 26, 2017 14,833 jschreier said: I guess I buried the real scoop here, but they dropped the $. Also, here is a gift link so people can actually read this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...9.qOIF32mVNJUCz17mJYYZM-YWpEEYhCcjFt6lm8BeeFo Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not playing it without the dollar sign   Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,760 Ibis Island Jade showing up and leaving is just too iconic at this point.   Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 28,123 pswii60 said: I hope the rest of the team can survive this. They already had to go through the Google shit. You are though aren't you Click to expand... Click to shrink... No, not really. I love the games she's been involved with in the past and wish she could catch a break.   KZXcellent One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 4,172 The game already wasn't inspiring confidence between it being a Sony Service Game and also being the GenAI game.  

RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,581 Old design: Seems like they mostly just added teeth. Oh and his toes look different EDIT: I added the hat detail to my title, as some people mentioned it looks like the Nintendo logo is gone EDIT 2: A nice comparison image from JazzyFuture on famiboards:   Last edited: Today at 1:48 PM Zebesian-X Member Dec 3, 2018 25,235 fuck this   RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,267 I like it. Hoping he shows up in Bananza as well   Gwarm Member Nov 13, 2017 2,828 NO!   Red Kong XIX Member Oct 11, 2020 13,206 Looks fine, it's a minimal change anyway.   Zyrokai Member Nov 1, 2017 5,202 Columbus, Ohio I like it. His hat seems different too. No more Nintendo logo?   Max|Payne Member Oct 27, 2017 9,836 Portugal Eh, it's not that huge of a difference. Fine by me.   steviestar3 One Winged Slayer Member Jul 3, 2018 5,437 New feet confirmed   Fady Member Oct 28, 2017 1,081 UAE Something looks very off about Donkey Kong's design these days.   blamite Member Oct 27, 2017 2,300 Looks like they changed his hat, too. What does it say now?! I need to know...   Clay Member Oct 29, 2017 9,528 Feels weird that he's nowhere near as changed as DK.   yap Avenger Oct 25, 2017 10,795 he doesn't have a brand on his hat i will not stand for this   Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 123,865 Pretty subtle change. Could be worse, could be like when I found out geese have teeth Edit: Goddamn it Xyer  inkblot Member Mar 27, 2024 1,087 lol   Xyer Avenger Aug 26, 2018 10,086   Stencil Mailing His Own Damn Business Member Oct 30, 2017 13,480 USA Did they remove the Nintendo logo from his hat?! If so, someone at Nintendo mustve seen the tweet   Lightsong Member Nov 11, 2022 9,356 He's a chimp, he should have teeth.   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,581 Zyrokai said: I like it. His hat seems different too. No more Nintendo logo? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yea it looks like ur right, they switched to a pin on his hat   logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,318 Doesn't look that different. Wish they changed more. I much prefer DKs new design.   Max|Payne Member Oct 27, 2017 9,836 Portugal Xyer said: No   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,614 Sure, why not. Looks like Diddy to me.   Bugface Member May 14, 2019 333 Diddy Kong waking up at the dentist: Where's… where's Trixie…? Funky Kong (a dental surgeon in this game): Diddy… who did you think you got the donated teeth from…?  thecowboypoet Avenger Oct 25, 2017 2,527 Disgusting   Rowsdower Shinra Employee of The Wise Ones Avenger Oct 27, 2017 19,981 Canada Got himself a pair of chompers I see.   ghostcrew The Shrouded Ghost Administrator Oct 27, 2017 31,776 Had teeth in the movie, so another step towards that.   xendless Teyvat Traveler Member Jan 23, 2019 13,650   Tbm24 Member Oct 25, 2017 22,883 All this time it hadn't occurred to me that he didn't have teeth tbh.   jitteryzeitgeist Member May 26, 2023 9,026 A quiet place Xyer said: Welp  Dust C H A O S Member Oct 25, 2017 40,938 But why?   Uncle at Nintendo 2nd Generation Uncle at Nintendo Member Jan 3, 2018 9,819 Fuck the Mario movie   Jahranimo Community Resettler Member Oct 25, 2017 10,243 Good!   Strat "This guy are sick" Member Apr 8, 2018 14,022 Looks great. Another win and another step away from the awful generic CG designs Nintendo used for Mario and gang for way too fucking long.   TaySan SayTan Member Dec 10, 2018 36,586 Tulsa, Oklahoma He has teeth now :D   Derbel McDillet ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 23, 2022 24,112 Donkey Kong might as well be this to me.   Supreme Leader Galahad ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 27, 2017 2,859 Brazil We sure this is final? I expected more changes like DK.   Gaardus Member Oct 27, 2017 2,837 ghostcrew said: Had teeth in the movie, so another step towards that. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Looks like it's the same hat, too.   RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,267 ghostcrew said: Had teeth in the movie, so another step towards that. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also has the same pin that the movie hat had as well   RochHoch One Winged Slayer Member May 22, 2018 21,267 He lives So why the heck is he not in Mario Kart New design looks great  KillstealWolf One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 27, 2017 18,414 ghostcrew said: Had teeth in the movie, so another step towards that. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I curse Illumination forever for ruining the kong designs with their trashy popular movie.  Wrighteous86 Member Oct 27, 2017 2,837 It's a little weird that they are redesigning these characters like a year after opening theme parks with the old designs.   Machine Law Member Oct 26, 2017 3,637 Diddy looks about the same. I thought his belly was bigger but then I saw the old picture and it's the same. KillstealWolf said: I curse Illumination forever for ruining the kong designs with their trashy popular movie. Click to expand... Click to shrink... But he looks nothing like in that movie.  blamite Member Oct 27, 2017 2,300 Hard to make everything out at that size but there's actually a bunch of subtle changes; teeth, something different on his hat, right star on his shirt isn't filled in, different feet, his ears looks slightly different and a bit more separated from his mouth area, I think his eyes are very slightly more separated?   sir_crocodile Member Oct 25, 2017 24,587   Banjo_ Member Mar 16, 2025 66 the teeth are kinda creepy switch 2 pre order cancelled  Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 13,030 Spain He still looks pretty much the same, he just got dentures and a new hat.   Kaitos Tens across the board! Moderator Oct 25, 2017 18,400 every day we stray further from God's light   Red Kong XIX Member Oct 11, 2020 13,206 PlanetSmasher said: Sure, why not. Looks like Diddy to me. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Can't say Diddy without the Kong nowadays.   MrSaturn99 One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 13,030 I live in a giant bucket. Soo what's up with the pin?   Shadow2222 The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 2,050 He looks way better in the movie than here, honestly   xendless Teyvat Traveler Member Jan 23, 2019 13,650 Is he fatter or has his crop top shrunk  

Blackbird Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 7,250 Brazil do you like to see damage numbers displayed on screen at each attack? i've started to dabble with JRPGs for the first time recently (FFXVI, P3 Reload), and i'm also interested on Clair Obscur, for sure. but this tiny little aspect bothers me, even in other genres, it just feels like that messes the visibility way too much and it becomes very busy. at the same time, i can see it being kind of a welcoming sign that makes you feel at home, as a JRPG fan. so, how do you feel about it?  Last edited: Today at 11:34 AM Twig Member Oct 25, 2017 8,392 i enjoyed seeing a bunch of 9999s in clair obscur turn into much bigger numbers once i got the limit break love damage numbers  texhnolyze Shinra Employee Member Oct 25, 2017 26,335 Indonesia I always turn them off when possible, JRPG or any other genre.   AviAvi ▲ Legend ▲ Member Jun 23, 2021 9,822 I just like knowing how much damage I'm doing to a boss, that can be through damage numbers or a health bar going down, as long as I can see that I'm actually making an impact. I don't get a hit of dopamine when I see big damage numbers though. That may also be why Balatro didn't grab me as much lol  ghostcrew The Shrouded Ghost Administrator Oct 27, 2017 31,776 Yup. From tabletop RPGing to video game ass JRPGs - i wanna see the literal number of damage I am doing (or taking). If I rolled my dice while playing D&D and the DM just said 'you dealt some damage to the goblin' I would be vwery unsatisfied.  RochHoch One Winged Slayer Member May 22, 2018 21,264 Absolutely Big numbers are satisfying, and they give you feedback on what you're doing  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,609 I think they're satisfying. Especially when they're done well.   steviestar3 One Winged Slayer Member Jul 3, 2018 5,436 Yeah, it's fun. I turn them on in other genres too when the option is available (Monster Hunter, Team Fortress 2) though that's more because the information is actually useful there while in JRPGs it's mostly just for the flavor.   Wrexis Member Nov 4, 2017 29,283 You know I was thinking about making this thread earlier after playing a bit of FFXVI and Clair Obscur. I do because it lets me see if damage is resisted or enhanced etc with elemental weaknesses, but I don't make it a game to hit ALL THE NUMBERS. Story wise in FFXVI it was very cool to see your character progress in the story itself as the numbers went up though. When you hit a 4 million damage on Titan you know things are getting serious. It definitely required knowledge of previous Final Fantasies though I think. They became useless in some games like Disgaea because you could hit trillions if memory serves. 99999999999999999 means nothing.  Geg Member Oct 25, 2017 6,588 It's good information to have most of the time, unless they just completely clutter the screen lol   Faiyaz Member Nov 30, 2017 6,613 Bangladesh Literally couldn't care less either way, but some of the best jRPG's in recent memory have them (Dragon Quest XI, Persona 5, Xenoblade 3, FF VII Remake, SMT V:Vengeance, Octopath Traveler 2, Metaphor, Trails games, etc.), so why not.   AaronMT Member Oct 27, 2017 8,365 Toronto I like them. They serve a purpose in demonstrating feedback from a game's mechanics and systems.   falcondoc Member Oct 29, 2017 7,978 Of course I want to see them   Ashes of Dreams Fallen Guardian of Unshakable Resolve Member May 22, 2020 19,580 It's pretty important to know if what you're doing is more or less effective than any other given thing. RPGs are about numbers, after all. You wouldn't close your eyes and ignore the damage you deal in D&D. Show them numbers.   Lumination Member Oct 26, 2017 15,973 I want to pick both yes options.   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,731 Yeah, I need the numbers   Zekes Member Oct 25, 2017 7,926 Why wouldn't I want to see the numbers Show me the numbers  Dezzy Member Oct 25, 2017 3,784 USA Yes, but not in games where you see tons of numbers flying everywhere, or huge numbers like 9275739. it's just visual spam at that point because I can't actually do the math.   ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,775 Midgar The numbers are part of the genre. I hate the mentality that the numbers were only ever a stand in for actual action. Action games are action games. RPGs are RPGs. Lumination said: I want to pick both yes options. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Same lol  Cren Member Oct 3, 2024 103 Growing up playing Ragnarok Online and WoW made me love seeing my damage. The way damage is shown in COE33 feels so good to see.   Mobius and Pet Octopus Member Oct 25, 2017 16,722 It's important to see the damage. It doesn't necessarily have to get as obfuscating as it can be in certain games, even Clair Obscur. At least Clair Obscur has a damage total, although hard to see sometimes, that lets you know how much your move has done in totality. But even there I wish it was a bit clearer, or a total that is the entire turn. Seems like a good mod could really address that.   southwest Member Sep 15, 2022 2,724 for any genre if it's turn based, I want them on.   Kent Member Jun 4, 2018 1,198 Minneapolis, MN Yes - I need to see the functional impact of what I'm doing. I'm just waiting for a game to have it be thematically-appropriate enough to render damage numbers in hexadecimal or scientific notation.  Suede Gotham's Finest Member Oct 28, 2017 14,944 Scotland Yes, I like to see how much damage I'm doing. Also seeing 9999 damage always brings a burst of dopamine for me.  sderttreds Member Jan 6, 2023 1,238 yes, especially the game where you can respec your build unlimited times   OP OP Blackbird Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 7,250 Brazil Lumination said: I want to pick both yes options. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ConflictResolver said: The numbers are part of the genre. I hate the mentality that the numbers were only ever a stand in for actual action. Action games are action games. RPGs are RPGs. Same lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... i was thinking about that and it makes sense, added the ability to give 2 votes!  hydruxo ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 22,674 Yes. Number go up, brain happy.   foshy Member Nov 2, 2017 206 really depends on the game, i generally like them but at the same time i don't miss them in pokemon. i like how power & hp amount is implied with the difference in scroll speed of the health bar there.   Yam's Member Oct 27, 2017 4,547 It's a core part of seeing your team becoming stronger for me.   Bucca Member Oct 25, 2017 5,454 bigger number better person bigger number better person  Landmaster Member Jan 21, 2018 167 Love it. But I like it when developers show restraint with their damage numbers. Too large and they start to lose all meaning.   closer Member Oct 25, 2017 5,542 i like number   Titantodd Member May 3, 2023 2,766 hydruxo said: Yes. Number go up, brain happy. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, exactly this. Nubby's Number Factory is probably going to be on my top 10 games this year for exactly this reason.  WildArms Member Apr 30, 2022 2,819 Yeah, it's nice. Just don't get too ridiculous with fonts or extremely high numbers and we're good. (Probably the old school MMO player in me wanting that.)   twister926 Member Apr 28, 2022 771 No and I am really surprised by the results. I never felt any excitement from seeing big numbers. I definitely feel satisfaction when I pull some wild ability combo that eats health of boss' health bar.  RecipeforDisaster Member Jul 15, 2022 167 I don't really care if it's turn based, but if it's real-time then please for the love of god let me turn the numbers off.   RPGsandFGCs Member Jun 30, 2024 1,006 California Normally, yes, but there were so many popping up CONSTANTLY in Rebirth that I downloaded the mod to turn them off. I think it still had numbers pop when crits happened which was a great compromise.  psynergyadept Shinra Employee Member Oct 26, 2017 19,007 Yes it just feels right!   Dogui Member Oct 28, 2017 10,919 Brazil Would activate damage numbers in every game if I could. Want a health bar along with it as well, because info is never too much. This kind of stuff never affected my immersion with the game. Edit: Also, a Jrpg without option to show numbers would be almost a game breaker for me. Unless it's really really good, of course.  Last edited: Today at 12:22 PM Jonathan Lanza "I've made a Gigantic mistake" Member Feb 8, 2019 8,763 If they need to be there then I have no issue with em If they don't then I do.  Vincent Grayson Member Oct 27, 2017 7,321 Mount Airy, MD I don't need the damage numbers popping up all over as long as there's some kind of clear indication of how much damage I'm doing versus how much damage the enemies can take. Having just finished E33, so much of the damage information becomes overwhelming at a point...but I don't know that there's an easy solution that doesn't involve either burying more information or making much simpler combat/progression systems, and neither of those are good options.   OP OP Blackbird Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 7,250 Brazil twister926 said: No and I am really surprised by the results. I never felt any excitement from seeing big numbers. I definitely feel satisfaction when I pull some wild ability combo that eats health of boss' health bar. Click to expand... Click to shrink... that's kinda how i feel about it. a health bar is enough and preferable, although my most liked approach is minimal, more immersive UI. i usually get more satisfaction from the animation work itself, hit reactions and damage on models (blood splatter/cloud, sparks, ragdoll physics and/or gore if it is there).  Jibberhack Member Oct 30, 2017 1,385 It gives you instant feedback about how well a particular attack is doing against an enemy. Give me the health count of the enemy as well without needing to spend a turn to reveal them.   mattynunchucks Member Oct 27, 2017 644 Number get big.   Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 13,030 Spain Damage numbers are cool, I always want damage numbers.   Lumination Member Oct 26, 2017 15,973 Blackbird said: a health bar is enough and preferable, although my most liked approach is minimal, more immersive UI. i usually get more satisfaction from the animation work itself, hit reactions and damage on models (blood splatter/cloud, sparks, ragdoll physics and/or gore if it is there). Click to expand... Click to shrink... A well-constructed jrpg is essentially math in a trench coat. Seeing the solution to the formula you have concocted is part of the appeal. On the other end, I think of something like Bayonetta. No hp, no numbers, just model damage. And in that game, there is little to no math in my loadout. Two different inputs, two different outputs.  Fawz Member Oct 28, 2017 3,971 Montreal I always turn off Damage Numbers. Games just can't help themselves and fall for power creep all the time. Numbers start big only to get ridiculously bigger and more numerous. Total visual impairment Ragnarok Online (classic) is the only one where I enjoy the numbers, both because of the style/VFX/SFX and that they're generally quite low so actually insightful. Though even then when playing in large groups or doing large-scale AoE it turns to clutter I wish I could disable  OP OP Blackbird Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 7,250 Brazil Lumination said: A well-constructed jrpg is essentially math in a trench coat. Seeing the solution to the formula you have concocted is part of the appeal. On the other end, I think of something like Bayonetta. No hp, no numbers, just model damage. And in that game, there is little to no math in my loadout. Two different inputs, two different outputs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... i can see the appeal. not my cup of tea, but i understand it.  mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,306 I need to have some indication of how I am performing and watching health bars dwindle down (esp. with today's spongey enemies) isn't granular enough.   Infinite Barrels Member Mar 28, 2024 300 more numbers  

Strikerrr Member Oct 25, 2017 2,842 N² (@4nt1r34l) the Marathon alpha released recently and its environments are covered with assets lifted from poster designs i made in 2017. @Bungie @josephacross xcancel.com Here are bigger versions of the examples that she lists: This isn't the first time Bungie has been using art without crediting the artist. A similar situation happened in Destiny 2 a couple of years ago. In that situation, Bungie at least reached out to apologize to the artist and worked out a deal to compensate them Destiny 2 makers apologize for ‘mistaken’ use of fan art in cutscene Bungie says it will compensate the graphic designer www.polygon.com I hope ANTIREAL can get some similar recognition and compensation at the bare minimum. I'm curious how common this kind of art theft is within the games industry.  Zebesian-X Member Dec 3, 2018 25,231 Yeah that seems… pretty blatant. Bungie's gotta make this right   StarsAreStuff Member Feb 16, 2021 1,757 seeing as this art was all posted around 2017 really aligns with the Marathon production timeline start. gross stuff Bungie, disappointing as hell. BSKY link View: https://bsky.app/profile/antire.al/post/3lpa4gamtzs2l N² (@antire.al) the Marathon alpha released recently and its environments are covered with assets lifted from poster designs i made in 2017. @bungie.net @marathonthegame.bungie.net bsky.app   ResinPeasant93 Member Apr 24, 2024 2,420 It seems to be more common than one would think. Don't ask for permission, and don't ask for forgiveness either, unless by a court order.   AgentStrange Member Oct 25, 2017 5,001 Yeah, this is like the third instance of Bungie doing this this now I think. Pretty sus to say the least.   Ant_17 Member Oct 28, 2017 2,902 Greece As if we need more reasons to hate this game.   Sanders21 Member Sep 3, 2023 339 AgentStrange said: Yeah, this is like the third instance of this now I think. Pretty sus to say the least. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fourth, based on this Verge article.   vixolus Prophet of Truth Member Sep 22, 2020 70,590 Yeah I just saw this come up on my bsky feed. It's literally ripped 1:1 in many areas as shown, not even just "inspired by"   Kinthey Avenger Oct 27, 2017 25,412 Straight up copying "Aleph Dark Space haulage logistics" is wild. Should be pretty open and shut. Like usually you could make some excuses about "Well, a double arrow symbol is going to look similar etc." but that's just a whole ass sentence copied, no ifs or buts.  NameUser Member Oct 25, 2017 17,190 They better make it right. Cut a check, put the artist in the credits.   Uhyve Member Oct 25, 2017 1,279 So the only part of Marathon that interests me was blatantly plagiarised. Modern Bungie makes me sad.  Smash-It Stan Member Oct 25, 2017 5,652 I saw the thread title and thought "AGAIN??" this has happened MULTIPLE times...   Audiblee Member Mar 14, 2025 1,386 Bungie's roll of negativity and self-owns continues. Compensate this artist.   The elusive man Member May 19, 2024 787 Damn they didn't even change it a little.   Crespo Member Oct 27, 2017 6,088 Sucks to see that.   LinguisticGoblin Member Jul 19, 2020 1,280 That is incredibly blatant looking   Suntzupp Member Mar 26, 2022 3,490 Bungie, the fuck is wrong with you?   Praedyth Member Feb 25, 2020 8,566 Brazil Yikes. This is blatant.   fiendcode Member Oct 26, 2017 26,291 Garbage company.   7thFloor Member Oct 27, 2017 7,268 U.S. Probably a single person responsible, that sucks   Remark Member Oct 27, 2017 4,135 The fact that Bungie has done this multiple times shows they seriously don't care lmao. Hope they get paid.  SolidSnakeUS Member Oct 25, 2017 12,072 Bungie... just come the fuck on. How about we don't fucking do this and be better... That is just blatant.   PimentaGui Member Jul 29, 2021 982 Fuck Bungie, wtf   Tagyhag Member Oct 27, 2017 15,119 Someone should get fired   TheRed Member Oct 31, 2017 3,176 The Aleph thing is just crazy to me lol just a straight copy   Temperance "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 6,977 [NO 2FA] Remark said: The fact that Bungie has done this multiple times shows they seriously don't care lmao. Hope they get paid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You say Bungie but who'd be responsibility for the actual actions of theft. Is it more Bungie artist department looking more and more sus? absolutely   banananahammock Member Aug 15, 2022 1,195 Uhyve said: So the only part of Marathon that interests me was blatantly plagiarised. Modern Bungie makes me sad. Click to expand... Click to shrink... this  Stencil Mailing His Own Damn Business Member Oct 30, 2017 13,474 USA Gross. Has anything come of the other three instances in which they've done this?  Nida Member Aug 31, 2019 15,091 Everett, Washington 7thFloor said: Probably a single person responsible, that sucks Click to expand... Click to shrink... Do they keep track of who does what exact art?  Dever Member Dec 25, 2019 5,830 Yikes lol. "Aleph Dark Space Haulage Logistics" totally sounds like it would be some minor part of the game's lore. But it's just copied and pasted from somewhere??   Falchion Member Oct 25, 2017 44,340 Oof, definitely looks like a copy + paste job.   7thFloor Member Oct 27, 2017 7,268 U.S. Nida said: Do they keep track of who does what exact art? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Internally? Yeah probably, and I imagine they're going to be in trouble for this   flyinj Member Oct 25, 2017 11,883 7thFloor said: Probably a single person responsible, that sucks Click to expand... Click to shrink... The question is- is it the same person who did it four times before  nihilence nøthing but silence Moderator Oct 25, 2017 18,908 From 'quake area to big OH. You could make a case for coincidence, except for the ALEPH thing. Yikes   DoradoWinston Member Apr 9, 2019 8,355 How am I not surprised the only part that seemed remotely interesting did not come from Bungie. That shit is blatant copy and paste holy   super moustique Member Oct 31, 2017 9,761 Hopefully, she'll get both the recognition and money she deserves for her (indirect) work on Marathon.   cowbanana Member Feb 2, 2018 16,331 a Socialist Utopia This is extremely blatant with the 1:1 ripping of exact design elements. There's literally zero excuses in this case. But I wouldn't call the overall design language very unique/original, it's very "Designer's Republic" going back to the 90s. They could just have made their own take on this style of design and they'd be fine, if unoriginal. But straight ripping elements makes Bungie look insanely bad in this case.  Nameless Hero Member Oct 25, 2017 23,330 Dever said: Yikes lol. "Aleph Dark Space Haulage Logistics" totally sounds like it would be some minor part of the game's lore. But it's just copied and pasted from somewhere?? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm 99% sure Aleph is part of the Marathon lore. The (fan) port of the original game is called Marathon Aleph One  Muffin Member Oct 26, 2017 10,751 nihilence said: You could make a case for coincidence, except for the ALEPH thing. Yikes Click to expand... Click to shrink... That logo row is already bad enough imo   maze001 Member Sep 18, 2024 584 Wow, I was not expecting it to be such a blatant case of theft. They literally copy pasted and rotated her art and called it a day. Crazy shit!  pittman Member Aug 15, 2019 252 Theres nothing wrong with being inspired by something. But whole sale lifting this stuff is nuts. This stuff was definitely on some mood board for the game and filter it's way through everything   Hong Member Oct 30, 2017 855 Literally stolen. Absolutely shameless. Imagine all the art that hasn't been recognised as stolen.   Kiyamet Member Apr 21, 2024 3,563 I dont know about Bungie's art director situation but often when I worked on assets I would be given mood boards for inspiration and be expected to basically, well, do just this Its most likely multiple layers of contract work that allowed this to happen I wouldnt put it squarely on Bungie for happening, though it is indeed on Bungie to fix it  cyress8 "This guy are sick" Avenger Oct 25, 2017 6,015 being broke, to being semi-broke. Straight copies. Guess they need to hire her and fire the person leading the art dept. Massive screw up.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,602 Dever said: Yikes lol. "Aleph Dark Space Haulage Logistics" totally sounds like it would be some minor part of the game's lore. But it's just copied and pasted from somewhere?? Click to expand... Click to shrink... nihilence said: You could make a case for coincidence, except for the ALEPH thing. Yikes Click to expand... Click to shrink... Aleph One Aleph One is an enhanced open source version of Marathon 2: Durandal's game engine.[1] The game engine has been in development since the year 2000 when Bungie released Marathon 2's source code prior to its acquisition by Microsoft. The game engine has made many improvements to Marathon 2, such... bungie.fandom.com   Threadmarks Bungee Art Director follows Artist New Index Cian One Winged Slayer Member Feb 17, 2018 676 Joseph Cross, Marathon's Art Director, has followed her for years, but never reached out.   New Index Turnabout Sisters The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,704 Wow wasn't there just a story about someone suing Bungie for copying something in some Destiny 2 stuff?   Vic Tokai Member Aug 9, 2018 207 Wow. The art & graphic design style of the game was the only thing interesting to me about it (I'm simply too old for competitive multiplayer games, I would rather spend my time doing literally anything else that doesn't involve getting yelled at by 12 year olds online), so now I'm just gonna go to the source for that art. Just followed this artist on Bluesky and will definitely buy prints of their work, if they sell any. EDIT: Was just scrolling through images on their site, and damn. There's my next decade of phone wallpapers sorted...  Last edited: 59 minutes ago LiK Member Oct 25, 2017 34,452 Considering they had laid off so many artists, I can def see this happening. I had zero interest in Marathon and this just makes it easier to ignore.   Uhyve Member Oct 25, 2017 1,279 7thFloor said: Probably a single person responsible, that sucks Click to expand... Click to shrink... While it might have been one person responsible for the plagiarism, the art style for the entire game ended up riffing on this persons art seemingly without credit. It's just kinda bizarre that they presumably built their style guide ripping the artist off, and then also directly ripped the artist off. 

Paroni Member Dec 17, 2020 4,769 Expectation: Reality: There has also been a documented case of a headless Shadowheart, without a doubt a victim of very vicious paintbrush. News on the subject: Baldur's Gate 3 companions got official $50 D&D minis, and I am casting Vicious Mockery because what in the Nine Hells is this Gale, you feeling all right? www.gamesradar.com The Baldur's Gate 3 cast got a new set of pre-painted minis and—oh, oh no, oh no no no Maybe the mind flayer tadpoles finally got to 'em. www.pcgamer.com Paint a lock if old.  MangoUltz "This guy are sick" Member Mar 24, 2019 4,087 Oof. Brutal paint job.   hydro94530 Chicken Chaser Member Oct 27, 2017 8,159 Bay Area Man those are butt ugly lol.   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,963 whose kid did they pay to paint these?   Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,753 Ibis Island Got two of these for a friend, sadly we did not get any of the main cast. The paint jobs on them weren't this bad though.   tapdancingFreak Member Dec 12, 2017 4,854 Charlotte, NC Lmfao!   Nostalgic Feeling Member Oct 19, 2024 511 LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣   y0shizawa Member May 3, 2021 635 Good lord that's awful   MadJosh04 Member Nov 9, 2022 2,734 Good lord that's bad lol   Foolhardy Member May 4, 2024 3,301 Pre-painted paired with D&D Minis have long been a recipe for hilarity and I am so happy the tradition has continued.   Derkon Member Oct 25, 2017 3,609 yikes   MadMod Member Dec 4, 2017 4,791 Like a 5 year old painted them from their mums nail polish draw.   onibirdo Member Dec 9, 2020 3,559   Pepsimaaan Member Oct 20, 2023 757 Shadowheart is missing her head in the packaged picture.....   LewieP Member Oct 26, 2017 19,790 The smart move here for Larian would be to immediately 3D scan these figures and then add them to the game as characters.   Sai Prophet of Truth The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 6,977 Chicago holy lol. incredible work.   shodgson8 Shinra Employee Member Aug 22, 2018 5,233 EDIT: Ninja'd  Spacejaws "This guy are sick" of the One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 8,828 Scotland Yi-fucking-ikes Top is the press release. Bottom is the pic from the store webpage. Something went wrong here lol.  Banjo_ Member Mar 16, 2025 64 what have they done to my girl shadowheart 😭   jph139 One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,666 Hoenstly, that's par for the course with pre-painted mass produced plastic minis - I feel like the quality standards have dropped considerably over the past 10-20 years. Back in the day you'd be spending $1-2 per mini and they'd look consistently good. Not hand-painted quality, but solid. Now to get anything near quality it's like $10 a mini? Maybe? (And with D&D minis you're spending that much and still getting garbage.) Like, I used to play Heroscape, and the Master Set with 30 miniatures and a shitton of terrain was only $40. The rebooted version that came out last year is 20 unpainted miniatures and like half the terrain for $125... or the version with painted minis for $225. It's crazy. I've just learned to settle for unpainted.  Takamura-San Member Oct 25, 2017 1,235 I haven't opened mine, and just looked up close and ooffff lol   Yerffej Prophet of Regret Member Oct 25, 2017 29,351 Poor Gale had his eyes scooped out. Shame.   Feral Gingy Member Oct 30, 2017 434 Finland Absolutely disgusting!   DanteMenethil Member Oct 25, 2017 8,972 FIFTY BUCKS HAHAHA   Nostalgic Feeling Member Oct 19, 2024 511 It's Tomb Raider all over again   Takamura-San Member Oct 25, 2017 1,235 Here's mine View: https://imgur.com/a/dzkTguT   Harmen Member Aug 30, 2023 1,372 Hahahaha, I love it   Brawly Likes to Brawl Member Oct 25, 2017 16,464 Ryohei Suzuki's bedroom Boulder's Gape 3   DiceHands Member Oct 27, 2017 4,783 someone tell them to thin their paints before applying   Apath Member Oct 25, 2017 3,493 That is worse than fast food promo pics vs the real thing. Hopefully they are giving refunds.   Jubilant Duck Member Oct 21, 2022 9,189 It's possibly confirmation bias but I don't think I've ever seen a mass-market pre-painted figure line that wasn't messy as fuck? There's just no way to ensure the quality across so many figures.   SpellSwordFoxx Member Feb 27, 2025 317 whoever they paid to do the pain jobs really didn't give a fuck XD   Ring Dings and Pepsi Member Jan 23, 2024 1,537 Spacejaws said: Yi-fucking-ikes Top is the press release. Bottom is the pic from the store webpage. Something went wrong here lol. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The colors don't even remotely match, wow  OP OP Paroni Member Dec 17, 2020 4,769 DiceHands said: someone tell them to thin their paints before applying Click to expand... Click to shrink... View: https://youtu.be/m3p_VuPIS2c   dreamfall Member Oct 25, 2017 7,330 Beyond hideous ! Paint job looks insane!   Praxis Sausage Tycoon Member Oct 25, 2017 8,141 UK Shadowheart shall be avenged   Anoregon Member Oct 25, 2017 16,115 texture and definition are crutches used by weak artists   Alvis Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 25, 2017 12,089 EU That's pathetic lmao   Mandos Member Nov 27, 2017 39,102 Welcome to prepainted minis! This is why you do it yourself. Even if you can't do details you can do a fun shaded look   Stabi Member Oct 25, 2017 2,033 France / san francisco Tsk'va! My most regretted purchase ever. I'm first time i bought dnd pre painted because the press release pictures looked amazing. Never again. 

doops. Member Jun 3, 2020 5,069 Stumbled upon this list on Backloggd, and was intrigued to hear if anyone has any other games that could be applicable or any takes on the ones already mentioned? 'Narratives that can only exist in video game media' a list of games by Paggi | Backloggd Its somewhat normalized that narrative excellence in games means mirroring books and cinema Not only thats far from the truth but some games have used the media they represent to achieve a whole new level of writing backloggd.com List is: OneShot Nier: Automata Shadow of the Colossus The Silver Case Undertale Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony EarthBound INSIDE Spec Ops: The Line Death Stranding Alan Wake II The Stanley Parable Return of the Obra Dinn Portal Immortality Legend of Mana   Busaiku Teyvat Traveler Member Oct 25, 2017 17,821 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors   Glasfrut Avenger Oct 27, 2017 4,824 Does the first Bioshock go here?   OP OP doops. Member Jun 3, 2020 5,069 Glasfrut said: Does the first Bioshock go here? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ooo, yeah, that's a good pick!  Gangster Gastino Member Mar 21, 2018 2,805 Eternal Darkness   Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 27,539 Disco Elysium KOTOR  southwest Member Sep 15, 2022 2,718 Glasfrut said: Does the first Bioshock go here? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Why?   JakeNoseIt Catch My Drift Verified Oct 27, 2017 4,744 I think you could argue for almost any game to be on this list. The second there is gameplay, there is narrative (and then obviously that narrative couldn't exist in film or TV)   barbarash22 Member Oct 19, 2019 820 Soma   hiberner toujours Member Dec 6, 2023 1,756 13 sentinels   PallasKitten Member Jul 11, 2022 1,776 Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons The House in Fata Morgana Doki Doki Literature Club  Holundrian Member Oct 25, 2017 11,122 Probably every Daniel Mullins game   OP OP doops. Member Jun 3, 2020 5,069 JakeNoseIt said: I think you could argue for almost any game to be on this list. The second there is gameplay, there is narrative (and then obviously that narrative couldn't exist in film or TV) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well, technically yes, but that's not as fun for discussion lol  Rustyspider13 Shinra Employee Member Nov 16, 2023 3,587 I'm not sure if the entire story counts but a moment in Brothers: A tale of Two Sons cannot be accomplished outside of video games.   blueredandgold Member Oct 25, 2017 8,626 Spoilers OK if marked? 999 on DS has you hooked until the last 10% or maybe even 5% of the game where the rug is literally pulled out from under you and you are forced to think about every action you as this external detached player character has made throughout the story seemingly while only acting out as the protaganist. Gone Home is by rights a "spooky house and you're all on your own" story at first but it transforms into a beautiful story about youth, family and discovering one's true self. Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story explores what makes the big man tick. Like, literally. Killer 7 on the outside and at the outset is a bonkers third person shoot-em-up and puzzle infused cel shaded action game but t's more a visual novel that's a really interesting character study of a person's personality. Or how it might become more than just singular. RTS games by and large that try and categorise you as someone in-game never sat well with me. I quite liked being more of the invisible hand guiding the events or having the entire campaign come crashing down on me like it's that movie Downfall and I need to yell at everybody, Semi-recently. I can't not mention 1000x Resist. I even was able to stomach voice acting in a video game for once. I'm as surprised as anybody. Play these games. Thank me later.  Boopers Member Nov 1, 2020 4,303 Vermont usa Dragon's Dogma, kinda sorta.   Ashes of Dreams Fallen Guardian of Unshakable Resolve Member May 22, 2020 19,573 Didn't people like the Nier Automata anime? I haven't watched it but I heard it did a decent enough job. What about that story can only exist in a video game? I guess the final bit to an extent but if anything, I'd say the first Nier is a much better pick for that, given it's use of the NG+ mechanic. Edit: Thinking about this list further, I think it's title is doing it a disservice. It should have just been "games that use game specific elements to enhance the narrative" or "narratives made better by being in a game" or something.  Kromis Member Oct 29, 2017 8,083 SoCal Why is Shadow of the Colossus on that list? Haven't played it in almost two decades :')   ynthrepic Member Oct 25, 2017 891 Ashes of Dreams said: Didn't people like the Nier Automata anime? I haven't watched it but I heard it did a decent enough job. What about that story can only exist in a video game? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Its less the main narrative and everything else supporting it. Game mechanics given context in ways that are lost outside the medium.  blueredandgold Member Oct 25, 2017 8,626 Ashes of Dreams said: Didn't people like the Nier Automata anime? I haven't watched it but I heard it did a decent enough job. What about that story can only exist in a video game? Click to expand... Click to shrink... The answer to that is a spoiler and it's also partly due to the fact you can literally come away from it having completely different interpretations of the story, and exactly how it was resolved, compared to another person. I don't fully understand the over-arching thrust of the game's final act/ending but I also don't entirely mind that fact, either. Whereas in a standard three-act story you know what happened at least happened to the other people who experienced the same story as you.  Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 27,539 southwest said: "Would you kindly" would not work anywhere near as well in a linear storytelling medium where the audience isn't controlling the protagonist.   SpicySpiritGun Member May 16, 2018 350 Outer Wilds   Homura ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 20, 2019 6,953 As much as I love V3, I don't see why an anime would be impossible. The 1st twist can work with unreliable camera angles, and the 2nd twist doesn't really rely on being a video game at all.   Ashes of Dreams Fallen Guardian of Unshakable Resolve Member May 22, 2020 19,573 blueredandgold said: The answer to that is a spoiler and it's also partly due to the fact you can literally come away from it having completely different interpretations of the story, and exactly how it was resolved, compared to another person. I don't fully understand the over-arching thrust of the game's final act/ending but I also don't entirely mind that fact, either. Whereas in a standard three-act story you know what happened at least happened to the other people who experienced the same story as you. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm very familiar with Nier Automata, don't worry. It's just the anime I haven't seen. My point was the story seems to work outside the context of games, so the title of the list is a bit exaggerated.  southwest Member Sep 15, 2022 2,718 Mr Evil 37 said: "Would you kindly" would not work anywhere near as well in a linear storytelling medium where the audience isn't controlling the protagonist. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I really do not agree at all that that cannot exist outside of video games.   Badcoo Member May 9, 2018 1,846 Mass Effect.   Necromanti Member Oct 25, 2017 12,794 hyouko Member Oct 27, 2017 3,902 I've soured on Jonathan Blow, but the standard ending of Braid is pretty good for this.   kaputt Member Oct 27, 2017 1,291 Driver San Francisco It's a detective/cop story, but without the "Shift" element of the gameplay, it wouldn't be nearly as fun as it is. And I don't think it would be easily adaptable to other mediums, it works way better as a game  twister926 Member Apr 28, 2022 764 I Kromis said: Why is Shadow of the Colossus on that list? Haven't played it in almost two decades :') Click to expand... Click to shrink... At some point you may get a feeling that you are not the hero of the story, as the game suggested at the start, and start feeling really bad by progressing it.   Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 27,539 southwest said: I really do not agree at all that that cannot exist outside of video games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maybe not CANNOT exist, but I don't think it would work anywhere near as well. It's a twist that is almost entirely predicated on the audience having agency in the story.   giapel Member Oct 28, 2017 5,216 JakeNoseIt said: I think you could argue for almost any game to be on this list. The second there is gameplay, there is narrative (and then obviously that narrative couldn't exist in film or TV) Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's true but most games don't lean on the advantages of the medium and the story they tell is confined to be "cinematic". I would add Blue Prince to the list. It's storytelling is wonderfully interactive.  Lihwem Member Mar 17, 2020 857 I want to say Last of Us Part 2 but the TV show has been stellar so far so who knows   Homura ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 20, 2019 6,953 Blue Prince is a good example, as the roguelike element is a canon part of the narrative.   Bucca Member Oct 25, 2017 5,436 The Last Guardian   404LinkNotFound Member Oct 27, 2017 10,600 The entire Zero escape series The whole Ai the somnium files series  Odinsmana Member Mar 13, 2019 3,601 So does this jsut mean games where they tell the story during gameplay or the fact that you are playing the MC enchances the story? Otherwise I don`t really understand why something like SotC or Inside is on the list? Does something like What Remains of Edith Finch count in that case? Anyway. Here as some games with storytelling methods that only work in a game: Doki Doki Literature Club Games like The Golden Idol series and the Rootrees Are Dead. Road 96 Her Story  southwest Member Sep 15, 2022 2,718 Mr Evil 37 said: Maybe not CANNOT exist, but I don't think it would work anywhere near as well. It's a twist that is almost entirely predicated on the audience having agency in the story. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maybe. But the thread and list is specifically asking for narratives that cannot exist outside of video games.   Nyandeyanen Member Apr 16, 2024 820 Persona, to some extent? The freeform nature of the social links and social skills is pretty video game specific. I do wish the main story would better reflect your social links and romances though.   Bulgowski Member Apr 8, 2022 666 Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Dark Souls   Frankish Member Oct 25, 2017 1,468 USA Came here to say Death Stranding but that's already on list. I'll add Inscryption.  Vic20 Member Nov 10, 2019 4,408 Bulgowski said: Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Dark Souls Click to expand... Click to shrink... Those games have no narratives Anyway I pick GTA and RDR  Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 27,539 southwest said: Maybe. But the thread and list is specifically asking for narratives that cannot exist outside of video games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think there's nuance to any conversation like this, but I personally think a game like BioShock which engages directly with the idea that it is a game and the audience is actively controlling the character (or they think they are) qualifies for this discussion. At no point when you're watching a movie do you feel that you are controlling the protagonist. I'm sure there is a way to adapt the twist to a movie but it would need to be presented very differently to the point where the core message would probably be different.  

Grapezard Member Nov 16, 2017 8,356 Yup, the legendary dogs beasts cats of Johto. Which is your favorite? You got Entei, the Volcano Pokemon. Suicune, the Aurora Pokemon. and Raikou, the Thunder Pokemon.   mopinks Member Oct 27, 2017 32,684 I'm not crazy about any of em but I'll give it to suicune   AgentStrange Member Oct 25, 2017 4,998 None. I take Zoloft. Entei   DanteSparda504 Member Nov 2, 2017 4,829 Birmingham, AL Suicune is my favorite. I think the only forgettable one is Raikou.   Rustyspider13 Shinra Employee Member Nov 16, 2023 3,584 Suicune, there is a majestic nature about it. Never used any of them in battle though.   RochHoch One Winged Slayer Member May 22, 2018 21,257 Can I cheat and say Raging Bolt What a beautifully silly creature  nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,958 raikou is where its at. entei is a loser   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,958 RochHoch said: Can I cheat and say Raging Bolt What a beautifully silly creature Click to expand... Click to shrink... how do you go from sabre tooth dog to a giraffe   Hero Prinny Member Oct 25, 2017 3,826 DanteSparda504 said: Suicune is my favorite. I think the only forgettable one is Raikou. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thats cause TPC never did anything with it. Entei got a movie & suicine got a movie and a game. They told poor raikou to go kick rocks   Shuckle Member Mar 30, 2018 598 Suicune is the coolest and was really fun to play in Gen 3 I think. Substitute/Calm Mind/Surf/Rest or Ice Beam if I recall was a really powerful moveset.   RochHoch One Winged Slayer Member May 22, 2018 21,257 nsilvias said: how do you go from sabre tooth dog to a giraffe Click to expand... Click to shrink... Alternate timelines that don't make sense, apparently. Must be from an unga bunga Flinstones universe full of dinosaur Pokemon   TheAggroCraig This guy are sick of the One Winged Slayer Member Nov 6, 2017 7,286 Suicune is the best of the GSC legendaries, but Raging Bolt is by far the best of the paradoxes.   DoctorPlayer MD "This guy are sick" Member Feb 4, 2021 2,728 Brazil All 3 of them are great, but Suicune's my favorite.   Foolish Member Jun 23, 2022 1,507 Okay so Raikou has the most fun name to say. Raikou. Hell yeah. Love it. But I don't like its purple hair that runs down its back. Feels excessive to the design and is way too similar to what Suicune has going on. And the tail feels weirder the more you look at it. Entei has the best design of the lot. Simultaneously comes across as both a lion and also some pure fantasy beast. And those black bands on its legs give the impression that it was once shackled in chains, and has now broken free. So good. I think the purple mane on Suicune clashes way too much with its other colors, and I think its face looks weird. And it cursed my childhood for years because I could not, for the life of me, figure out how its name is supposed to be pronounced. Entei >> Raikou >>>>> Suicune  Faiyaz Member Nov 30, 2017 6,599 Bangladesh Entei is the fucking GOAT   mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 33,133 Gongaga Suicune my beloved   Beren One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 4,992 Enter, but that's definitely due to my exposure to the third movie. Suicune is definitely cool and I won't knock anyone for picking that one. Raikou was great competitively but it just couldn't compete. Had no idea what the vibes were.  NetOpWibby Member Nov 15, 2017 75 Carina Nebula SUICUUUUUNE Gimme Pokémon Crystal with Breath of the Wild mechanics and I'm good for a decade.  -Le Monde- Avenger Dec 8, 2017 14,228 My favorite legendary trio. Really hard to choose. Probably Raikou  ForteanMan Member Oct 25, 2017 571 Dongguan, China Think it's Suicune for me largely because of Pokémon Crystal.   StrappingYoungLance Member Oct 27, 2017 7,764 Melbourne, Australia Picking Suicune is for mids.   Bucca Member Oct 25, 2017 5,435 Suicune the GOAT   mnk Member Nov 11, 2017 7,937 Raikou's the only one I like.   Lightsong Member Nov 11, 2022 9,346 Suicune! I also like the dino version:   Dogui Member Oct 28, 2017 10,911 Brazil Suicine is the only not fugly one.   Rocky Road Member Jun 1, 2018 1,006 Suicune is gonna be the most popular due to Crystal, I'm interested in what a straight Entei vs Raikou would be if all the Suicune voters had to vote for one of those two   Buzzkiller_20 Corrupted by Vengeance Member Oct 27, 2017 2,522 I like Entei because of the movie, Suicune design wise, and Raikou because of the bond i had with him in Heartgold. Helped me beat the game and beat Pearl as well when I transferred him over. It's hard to choose which one i like the most, but i think i will give it to Suicune. His design is great and water types are my favorite, so I choose Suicune.   hydruxo ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 22,672 They're all about even for me but Suicune has an ethereal vibe to it that puts it over the edge for me   Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,657 Melbourne, Australia mopinks said: I'm not crazy about any of em but I'll give it to suicune Click to expand... Click to shrink... Exactly this   Stencil Mailing His Own Damn Business Member Oct 30, 2017 13,464 USA I suppose Raikou is a very distant second to Suicune. But Suicune is far and away the coolest and best. Poor Entei.  MimicBox82 Member Jan 9, 2018 5,406 Sweden Suicune is the cutest, so I'll go with that.   HardRojo One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 28,818 Peru Raikou, always. RochHoch said: Can I cheat and say Raging Bolt What a beautifully silly creature Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not whatever this monstrosity is. And yeah, someone's gonna claim "well, that's not Raikou".   Shoichi Member Jan 10, 2018 12,459 favorite typing is water pokemon, so Suicune has been one of my favorites since Crystal.   Tsaki Member Feb 12, 2019 419 youngster: Suicune teenager: Raikou adulthood: Entei  Silver9 Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 31, 2017 1,228 Suicune is a majestic pokemon.   Rouk' Member Jan 10, 2018 9,530 To this day, I still don't understand why Raikou is the least popular   Kneefoil Member Oct 25, 2017 4,945 Entei's the coolest, for sure. Suicune's the most iconic these days, though.   onibirdo Member Dec 9, 2020 3,555 I recently watched ProZD's Pokémon ranking videos. He calls Entei "your angry dad as a Pokémon" which is weirdly accurate.  

entremet You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge Member Oct 26, 2017 70,440 I've also loved this troupe. It's like a fun fakeout lol. My pick: Monster World IV, the last Genesis installment of the installment of the excellent, and confusing Monster World/Wonder Boy series. It also got a remake a few years ago as well, which I haven't played. End game just goes crazy while you basically coast for 75 percent of the game. It's not crazy, but a nice jump in difficulty.  Last edited: Yesterday at 10:21 PM PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,547 The last few missions of Super Robot Wars OG: Moon Dwellers are nuts. The game is like "we're going to give you one of the most powerful mechas in the entire multiverse! so now we need to make every fight 2-3x harder to compensate!" The Neo Granzon is an absolute monster, but even that thing can't solve an entire mission by itself if the rest of your units get killed.  shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 41,370 Ill be honest the remake of MWIV didnt really feel like it had a difficulty spike aside that darned quiz that popped up mid? way through the game. Its basically a knowledge check, in a game which Id been sleeping through the story. That'll teach me to pay more attention next time lol. Ones that hit me personally: Ninja Gaiden (NES) - That darned bird in stage... 7-2? Its actually not just the bird but rather a combo of the bird and other enemies that constantly respawn. The level actually wouldnt be as bad if the respawning was more lenient. Or you know, the checkpointing after that point was solid instead of kicking you back to 7-1 if you lose to the boss' multiple phases! Ninja Gaiden (Black/Sigma) - Bump the difficulty all the way up to Very Hard/Master Ninja, then play the penultimate stage and do the boss rush run toward the end of the penultimate chapter... when the Alma like bosses show up, it can become a real test of skill just to hit the bosses, let alone win! TMNT NES - No, not the over rated dam level, Im talking level 6 - the finale. And specifically, the long corridor section right before Shredder - the game basically over and over spawns these flying dudes with guns that decimate your health and take far too many hits to defeat... they dont stop coming and are just a hastle to deal with. Hope for scrolls or at least limp to Shredder's boss room with Don and Leo intact for the fight, as you'll need their reach to cheese Shredder (thankfully said boss is much easier than the journey to him)  DrForester Mod of the Year 2006 Member Oct 25, 2017 24,538 Breath of the Wild, but only because I was so engrossed during the game of exploring on foot that having to do mounted combat for the final battle was not something I was prepared for at all.   OP OP entremet You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge Member Oct 26, 2017 70,440 shadowman16 said: Ill be honest the remake of MWIV didnt really feel like it had a difficulty spike aside that darned quiz that popped up mid? way through the game. Its basically a knowledge check, in a game which Id been sleeping through the story. That'll teach me to pay more attention next time lol. Ones that hit me personally: Ninja Gaiden (NES) - That darned bird in stage... 7-2? Its actually not just the bird but rather a combo of the bird and other enemies that constantly respawn. The level actually wouldnt be as bad if the respawning was more lenient. Or you know, the checkpointing after that point was solid instead of kicking you back to 7-1 if you lose to the boss' multiple phases! Ninja Gaiden (Black/Sigma) - Bump the difficulty all the way up to Very Hard/Master Ninja, then play the penultimate stage and do the boss rush run toward the end of the penultimate chapter... when the Alma like bosses show up, it can become a real test of skill just to hit the bosses, let alone win! TMNT NES - No, not the over rated dam level, Im talking level 6 - the finale. And specifically, the long corridor section right before Shredder - the game basically over and over spawns these flying dudes with guns that decimate your health and take far too many hits to defeat... they dont stop coming and are just a hastle to deal with. Hope for scrolls or at least limp to Shredder's boss room with Don and Leo intact for the fight, as you'll need their reach to cheese Shredder (thankfully said boss is much easier than the journey to him) Click to expand... Click to shrink... I heard the remake is much easier than the Genesis original.   BennyWhatever Member Oct 27, 2017 5,485 US The Last Story for the Wii, I remember the very last fight being a huuuuge difficulty spike. I breezed through most of the game but the final boss took me hours.   JaseMath Member Oct 27, 2017 11,422 Denver, CO The endgame of FFIV (Lunar Subterranean) can be pretty brutal if you're not grinding it.   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 41,370 entremet said: I heard the remake is much easier than the Genesis original. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ive not played the original yet, but yeah I can believe it. Still I really liked the remake for what its worth.   Tenck Member Oct 27, 2017 684 Yakuza: Like a Dragon. I almost dropped the game because of it, but because I was so close to the end I was stubborn and pushed through the difficulty spike. That game all around had some bad moments when it came to difficulty, but the ending was on a whole different level.   BranCrackr Member Oct 4, 2019 1,260 Not a complaint for me, but Stellar Blade's last few bosses will beat your ass if you haven't gotten good at parrying and perfect dodging   MimicBox82 Member Jan 9, 2018 5,406 Sweden Elden Ring. Those last few bosses are brutal.   intradictus Member Sep 17, 2023 567 Senator Armstrong in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, you can make it to him without mastering the combat system, but he will beat your ass if you have any weaknesses   sukitakit4 Member Aug 2, 2022 25 intradictus said: Senator Armstrong in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, you can make it to him without mastering the combat system, but he will beat your ass if you have any weaknesses Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep...pretty much.  thetrin Member Oct 26, 2017 10,581 Grand Junction, CO Tenck said: Yakuza: Like a Dragon. I almost dropped the game because of it, but because I was so close to the end I was stubborn and pushed through the difficulty spike. That game all around had some bad moments when it came to difficulty, but the ending was on a whole different level. Click to expand... Click to shrink... IF I am thinking of the same part of the game, the difficulty spikes in a really stupid way too. Its not that the enemies are at your level but more difficult. If you dont grind before this point (something you never really need to do up to this point), everything out levels you i that section by several levels. It's bizarre balancing.  cubicle47b Member Aug 9, 2019 921 The real final boss of Octopath Traveler.   JohnTruckasaurus Member Oct 27, 2017 308 The last level of Streets of Rage 4 on a higher difficulty is pretty much designed to make your palms sweat.   3bada The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 512 Kena is a chill adventure game until the final act where it becomes dark souls   Listai 50¢ - "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,819 Final Fantasy III. I was overlevelled the whole game but that final dungeon was brutal.  Tavernade Tavernade Moderator Sep 18, 2018 11,609 The final boss of the first Mario and Luigi game is total nonsense compared to the rest of the game. Two phases, the second of which resets your HP to zero and then sends you through a gauntlet.   sillyGecko Member Mar 14, 2025 1,262 Does Astrobot count? Those challenge levels are brutal  

--R Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,503 Electronic Arts has announced to employees that it will be ending its remote working policies permanently, and implementing a full return to office. In an email sent to employees today viewed by IGN, CEO Andrew Wilson said that in-person work results in "a kinetic energy that fuels creativity, innovation, and connection, often resulting in unexpected breakthroughs that lead to incredible experiences for our players." He then went on to broadly outline that "hybrid work" would now be defined as a "minimum of three days a week in your local office," and that "offsite local roles" would be gradually phased out. Click to expand... Click to shrink... In a follow-up email from EA Entertainment president, Laura Miele, also viewed by IGN, she clarified further details, describing the company as moving from "a decentralized approach to a globally consistent, enterprise-wide work model": Click to expand... Click to shrink... These changes will not take effect immediately. Employees should continue working as directed by your Business Unit until further notice, regardless of where you live. Work model transitions will come with a minimum 12-week notice period before any changes are implemented. The timing will vary by location and will be communicated locally with plenty of notice. Hybrid work will mean working from your local office at least three days per week–this aligns with what's outlined in Andrew's EA Action. We are introducing a new 30-mile/48-km radius around EA locations. What this means: Employees who live within 30-miles/48-km of an EA location will transition to a Hybrid work model. Employees who live outside the 30-mile/48-km radius will be considered remote unless their role is designated as On Site or Hybrid. We will also sunset the Offsite Local work model. Depending on your location, this transition may take 3 to 24 months. Any work model exception and future Remote hires will require a CEO Direct's /my approval. Several sources within EA speaking to IGN anonymously said that employees were upset and confused, with some employees sharing hours-long commutes they were now being expected to make, or expressing concerns regarding childcare or personal medical conditions that had benefited from remote work. Others, classified as remote and outside the 30-mile range, expressed concern for what would happen to their roles if they were unwilling or unable to move closer to an office long-term. Two sources explained to IGN that per the breakdown sent by Miele, existing remote workers would have their "exemptions" to return to office "sunset" sometime in the next 3 to 24 months. Click to expand... Click to shrink... EA Pushes Full Return to Office, Effectively Ends Remote Hiring - IGN Electronic Arts has announced to employees that it will be ending its remote working policies permanently, and implementing a full return to office. www.ign.com   Lirael Member Oct 27, 2017 16,623 So, mass layoffs incoming then.   ASleepingMonkey The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 4,575 Iowa 3 - 24 months is such an absurd window for that one point lol   Star-Lord Member Oct 25, 2017 7,941 That fucking sucks, I don't understand how a job can be done for this many years remote / hybrid and they now decide nah   ket Member Jul 27, 2018 15,035 worthless fucking management   Capricorn "This guy are sick" Avenger Oct 25, 2017 902 Fuck EA and any other company that pulls this kind of shit.   Last edited: Today at 6:41 PM MANTRA Member Feb 21, 2024 1,093 More layoffs without doing the laying off.   TeenageFBI One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 11,313 "Sunset" is just the worst verb.   Skel1ingt0n Member Oct 28, 2017 11,466 Lirael said: So, mass layoffs incoming then. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep, this is what you should take from this. Our company went from (for some roles) - "you can work wherever and we're definitely keeping that way" to "if you live within 45 miles and 60 min of the office, you need to come in 3-4 days a week" all in a matter of two months. Of course some people say "eff that," which is what they want. It's a silent layoff.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,398 Boooo   Azzie Member Dec 1, 2024 673 Andrew Wilson said that in-person work results in "a kinetic energy that fuels creativity, innovation, and connection, often resulting in unexpected breakthroughs that lead to incredible experiences for our players." Click to expand... Click to shrink... Says the man who only has 1 answer to everything "live service microtransactions".  Skel1ingt0n Member Oct 28, 2017 11,466 ASleepingMonkey said: 3 - 24 months is such an absurd window for that one point lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... Lines up nicely for when we'll get our next tidbit of Mass Effect information.  NinjaScooter Member Oct 25, 2017 60,606 Star-Lord said: That fucking sucks, I don't understand how a job can be done for this many years remote / hybrid and they now decide nah Click to expand... Click to shrink... middle and upper management have to look like they are doing something.  loco Member Jan 6, 2021 8,548 Wow I know people at EA that work from states that have no official offices. That really sucks   Khanimus Avenger Oct 25, 2017 46,384 Greater Vancouver 🖕   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,969 Skel1ingt0n said: Yep, this is what you should take from this. Our company went from (for some roles) - "you can work wherever and we're definitely keeping that way" to "if you live within 45 miles and 60 min of the office, you need to come in 3-4 days a week" all in a matter of two months. Of course some people say "eff that," which is what they want. It's a silent layoff. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The economy isn't exactly booming right now but your analysis is spot on.  WildArms Member Apr 30, 2022 2,810 This seems to be a nation wide thing. I'm Canadian and just my other week my current employer pushed an email out stating the same thing. Then, just the other day, my wife's company did the same thing. Man... Glad my new company I'll be working for is fully remote. I absolutely hate commuting... I already work 12 hour days on top of commuting 2 hours. At least it's only 3 days a week and my last day is the Friday after this Friday.  Cess007 Member Oct 27, 2017 15,444 B.C., Mexico CEO Andrew Wilson said that in-person work results in "a kinetic energy that fuels creativity, innovation, and connection, often resulting in unexpected breakthroughs that lead to incredible experiences for our players." Click to expand... Click to shrink... "I cannot wait to see all this incredible creative pitches and be the first one to ask them "how do you plan to include microtransactions in this?"   HardRojo One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 28,813 Peru NinjaScooter said: middle and upper management have to look like they are doing something. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, I only go to the office once a week (didn't actually go this week) and it's only upper management that seems to be going a few days a week. They got time to plan all the boring shit like presentations with dances, sketches and all that crap.   lone_stranger Member Aug 24, 2018 469 I don't view hybrid the same as a "full return to office", but it does suck that people who were exclusively remote won't have the option anymore. I wish I knew how common full-time remote work was for the big publishers. For some reason I thought hybrid was the typical approach already.   Tommy Showbiz Member Jul 20, 2022 3,647 I think it was Jason Schreier who said that Respawn being able to fully coalesce around remote work was a huge part of why that studio had been so successful in recent years. So uh, great job with that EA.   ket Member Jul 27, 2018 15,035 management loves the idea of keeping an eye on their employees even if that's pointless. they love having control.   Twister Member Feb 11, 2019 6,622 Return to office is bullshit. EA employees, resist and do not comply. Any job that can be done at home should be allowed to be done at home, full stop, period. This is a control tactic. Don't let these greedy pieces of shit take away your freedom and happiness. Stop clogging the roads and leave that space for emergency vehicles and people with jobs who cannot be remote. Stop contributing to carbon emissions with thousands of extra cars on the road. Stop building giant office parks that could be used for green spaces or more housing. Resist this bullshit. Make the CEOs sorry they ever even tried.  vixolus Prophet of Truth Member Sep 22, 2020 70,551 Companies doing their best to try and put the toothpaste back in the tube   Freezasaurus Member Oct 25, 2017 58,746 What is it with oldheads and these office mandates? It's not the 1950s anymore, bozos.   Juryvicious Member Oct 28, 2017 8,129 Lirael said: So, mass layoffs incoming then. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The cynic in me agrees, unfortunately, as this was my first thought as well. Most of the employee pro-progress in recent years has evaporated. And EA are not alone, far from it.  JRedCX Member Nov 10, 2020 1,242 Soft layoff...   FrostweaveBandage Unshakable Resolve Member Sep 27, 2019 9,813 Star-Lord said: That fucking sucks, I don't understand how a job can be done for this many years remote / hybrid and they now decide nah Click to expand... Click to shrink... The thing that never made sense to me is how these multinational companies ever operated if they believe everyone being in the same place was critical to business success.   Mauricio_Magus Member Oct 25, 2017 15,772 So they want people to quit, got it.   ghibli99 Member Oct 27, 2017 20,468 What is "offsite local"? Is that the "within 30 miles" group so they can force the hybrid model on them?   TrojanAg Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 25, 2017 4,498 Management loves to act like working on-site will create such an efficient workplace but it's definitely the opposite. Traveling to and from work alone is just a massive waste of time, and you would think that they would've learned their lesson by now. I guess they just have to justify their existence and micromanage/pester you in person.   medinaria Member Oct 30, 2017 2,912 why do people come up with useless bespoke terminology for shit like what is "offsite local", is this the same as remote, or does this mean like "person who works remote but within commute range of an office" if they're aiming to distinguish between "people who we think could work in-person and therefore will be" and "people who can't and therefore don't have to" that's at least not the dumbest thing I've ever seen? it's still pretty dumb but like, "all remote people worldwide must report to their nearest branch" is a bit absurd when you don't have any US offices east of texas lol  nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,956 its funny how these companies could save a ton of money by cutting out middle management and a building and all the bills that come with it but they wont do it.   Vourlis Member Aug 14, 2022 5,814 United States What's the fucking difference if you have 38 office locations worldwide... God forbid people like to work and be equally productive beyond a cubicle. Just give people the option...  Last edited: Today at 6:57 PM Tunesmith Fraud & Player Security Verified Oct 25, 2017 2,195 ASleepingMonkey said: 3 - 24 months is such an absurd window for that one point lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... some locations can accomodate influx of onsite staff sooner than others.   Twister Member Feb 11, 2019 6,622 nsilvias said: its funny how these companies could save a ton of money by cutting out middle management and a building and all the bills that come with it but they wont do it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Eventually they'll have to. This is the old heads clinging to their last grasp of power before offices become a thing of the past. Remote work will be the norm for office jobs within the next 10-15 years   DontHateTheBacon Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 27, 2017 14,411 Soft layoffs huh   skyappl Member Oct 25, 2017 337 As others have noted, this is a layoff without triggering related laws or having to pay unemployment insurance.   Aztechnology Community Resettler Avenger Oct 25, 2017 15,382 nsilvias said: its funny how these companies could save a ton of money by cutting out middle management and a building and all the bills that come with it but they wont do it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Actually they're doing this specifically as a tactic for wage suppression and stuff like that. When you make jobs scarce (layoffs are coming) they get to put downwards pressure on wages etc. All the shit right now including AI is just that. You can't have labor feeling like they have any power  Supreme Leader Galahad ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 27, 2017 2,847 Brazil Wraps for EA if Battlefield fails to deliver.   Duffking Member Oct 27, 2017 6,686 EA announce their intention to be a less enticing workplace than their competitors.   Qikz Member Oct 25, 2017 13,739 NinjaScooter said: middle and upper management have to look like they are doing something. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's also hilarious because until now upper management were working from home all the time and will continue to once they've forced everyone back in the office. They don't want us to have that benefit (us in the general sense) - its 100% fuck you got mine. If someone has proven they can work from home perfectly well then if you force them back into an office you're an asshole imo. If someones doing a bad job working remotely fine, force them back into the office and test them but punishing everyone is shitty.  klauskpm ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 26, 2017 3,836 Brazil This to me is 2 things. As others said, it is to have people do the layoff themselves. And second, it is because it is becoming more and more common, so people have less options to go to. It sucks. And it sucks even more because it is not even about performance or quality. It is about control. If it was about performance and quality, it would be optional. So people who knows they perform better, or prefer to, could go on-site. If only the people who ask others to be professionals would also treat others as adults and professionals.  Ambient Member Dec 23, 2017 9,258 Brace for layoffs   Ensorcell Member Oct 27, 2017 7,405 They almost always pull these back when they see the results and/or they are done with workforce reduction no matter the industry. They won't be honest because they don't want to pay severance. All it does it crater employee engagement and they know it. Slimeballs.   BertChintus Member Dec 18, 2024 261 klauskpm said: This to me is 2 things. As others said, it is to have people do the layoff themselves. And second, it is because it is becoming more and more common, so people have less options to go to. It sucks. And it sucks even more because it is not even about performance or quality. It is about control. If it was about performance and quality, it would be optional. So people who knows they perform better, or prefer to, could go on-site. If only the people who ask others to be professionals would also treat others as adults and professionals. Click to expand... Click to shrink... On some level, it is kinda about performance. Haven't their games been underperforming lately?  Mesoian ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 28, 2017 31,655 Lirael said: So, mass layoffs incoming then. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yup. The bigger joke is that in 12 months they'll open up remote work again because no one wants to move to Redwood City.  BassForever One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 31,607 CT Ensorcell said: They almost always pull these back when they see the results and/or they are done with workforce reduction no matter the industry. They won't be honest because they don't want to pay severance. All it does it crater employee engagement and they know it. Slimeballs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep, cause ultimately if a high performing employee is too far away and/or doesn't want to fully commit to working in office, management will look the other way. Mesoian said: Yup. The bigger joke is that in 12 months they'll open up remote work again because no one wants to move to Redwood City. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Or look to outsource work to other countries. Nothing says "in office creativity" like being on a teams call with another team half way around the world.   HockeyBird Member Oct 27, 2017 13,757 Knowing employees are being forced back into the office definitely gives me the urge to spend money in Apex Legends.   TheForsaken Member Jul 24, 2024 420 Very similar to what my tech company did just recently as well.