One of the most exciting times as a gamer for me is the anticipation, discussion, and theory crafting that occurs between a game's reveal and its release. There's usually something I'm looking forward to in that manner, but with the release of Expedition 33 and no new Yakuza games or FFXIV expansions on the immediate horizon, I'm left in a situation where nothing is really filling that gap. So instead, I've been thinking about what may be the next reveal to start keeping me up reading... Read more

DriftingSpirit Member Oct 25, 2017 18,563 They note how they usually start with PC and scale down, but they will be doing it the other way around this time to avoid issues with the console versions. 4:15 for console focus and 60fps 38:50 for the Series S comment  bsigg Member Oct 25, 2017 25,153 [DF] Inside The Witcher 4 Unreal Engine 5 Tech Demo: CD Projekt RED + Epic Deep Dive Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OplYN2MMI4Q www.resetera.com   Skot Member Oct 30, 2017 645 720p on Series S incoming   Bulby Prophet of Truth Member Oct 29, 2017 6,006 Berlin I think think any series s user will be happy with a beautiful 900p 30fps   Chronos Member Oct 27, 2017 1,249 This better not be a Cyberpunk situation all over again. If they can't get it to work on S, then they may just need to abandon that console. Work out a deal with MS or wait for their next generation.   HellofaMouse Member Oct 27, 2017 8,551 i wonder if this'll come out before the gen is over? good chance itll be a 2077 situation, cross-gen release with a broken ps6 version  logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,526 This makes sense since they want to have good performance on lower end machines and they mentioned that it was easier to scale up than to scale down. They also mentioned their legacy on PC and how they plan on scaling it up high like they usually do on PC.   KRT Member Aug 7, 2020 247 Series S was a mistake   chris 1515 Member Oct 27, 2017 7,116 Barcelona Spain The game have raytracing GI and reflection it will probably be 30 fps 600p-720p on Xbox Series S.   bitcloudrzr Member May 31, 2018 21,044 Bulby said: I think think any series s user will be happy with a beautiful 900p 30fps Click to expand... Click to shrink...   Yuuber Member Oct 28, 2017 4,540 KRT said: Series S was a mistake Click to expand... Click to shrink... Can we stop with these stupid takes? For all we know it sold as much as Series X, helped several games have better optimization on bigger consoles and it will definitely help optimizing newer games to the Nintendo Switch 2.  MANTRA Member Feb 21, 2024 1,198 No one who cares about 60fps should be buying a Series S, just make it 30fps.   Roytheone Member Oct 25, 2017 6,185 Chronos said: This better not be a Cyberpunk situation all over again. If they can't get it to work on S, then they may just need to abandon that console. Work out a deal with MS or wait for their next generation. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They can just go for 30 fps instead on the Series S. No need for a special deal for that, that's allowed.  Matterhorn Member Feb 6, 2019 254 United States Hoping for a very nice looking 30fps Switch 2 version.   Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 2,617 Maybe off topic, but is 30fps target not so important anymore for 2027 industry-leading graphics? GTA is mainly doing it for design/physics/etc. whch is why the game can't be scaled down to 720-900p/60fps?   chris 1515 Member Oct 27, 2017 7,116 Barcelona Spain Matterhorn said: Hoping for a very nice looking 30fps Switch 2 version. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It will be a full port a few years after like The Witcher 3., they don't use software lumen here. I doubt the Switch 2 Raytracing capaclity is high enough to use the same pipeline to produce the Switch 2 version. EDIT: And they probably need to redo all the assets. https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1l4a1o4/fortnite_on_the_switch_2_looks_great_these_low/ Fortnite doesn't use Nanite and Lumen on Switch 2.  Last edited: Yesterday at 4:18 PM bitcloudrzr Member May 31, 2018 21,044 Universal Acclaim said: Maybe off topic, but is 30fps target not so important anymore for 2027 industry-leading graphics? GTA is mainly doing it for design/physics/etc. whch is why the graphics can't be scaled down to 720p/60fps? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Graphics are the part of the game that can be scaled, it is CPU load that is the more difficult part, although devs have actually made cuts in the latter to increase performance mode fps viability. Even with this focus on 60fps performance modes, they are always going to have room to make a higher fidelity 30fps mode. Specifically with UE5 though, performance has been such a disaster all around and Epic seems to be taking it seriously now.   Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 13,530 Spain 60 fps target is fantastic, I wish it was the norm.   julia crawford Took the red AND the blue pills Member Oct 27, 2017 40,709 i am very ok with lower fps on the series s, it is far more palatable than severe resolution drops with upscaling artifacts.   Spoit Member Oct 28, 2017 5,599 Chronos said: This better not be a Cyberpunk situation all over again. If they can't get it to work on S, then they may just need to abandon that console. Work out a deal with MS or wait for their next generation. Click to expand... Click to shrink... And yet people keep talking about somehow getting PS6 games to work on the sony portable, which is probably going to be like half as powerful as a PS5, like that won't hold games back   PLASTICA-MAN Member Oct 26, 2017 29,563 chris 1515 said: The game have raytracing GI and reflection it will probably be 30 fps 600p-720p on Xbox Series S. Click to expand... Click to shrink... There is kinda a misconception of how Lumen and the hybrid RT is handled in UE5 titles. AO is also part of the ray traced pipeline through the HW Lumen too. Just shadows are handled separately from the RT system by using VSM which in final look behvae quite like RT shadows in shape, same how FF16 handled the shadows looking like RT ones while it isn't traced. UE5 can still trace shadows if they want to push things even further.  overthewaves Member Sep 30, 2020 1,203 What about the PS5 handheld?   nullpotential Member Jun 24, 2024 87 KRT said: Series S was a mistake Click to expand... Click to shrink... Consoles were a mistake.  GPU Member Oct 10, 2024 1,075 I really dont think Series S/X will be much of a factor by the time this game comes out.   Lashley <<Tag Here>> Member Oct 25, 2017 65,679 Just make series s 480p 30fps   pappacone Member Jan 10, 2020 4,076 Greywaren said: 60 fps target is fantastic, I wish it was the norm. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It pretty much is   Super Studied the Buster Sword Member Jan 29, 2022 13,601 I hope they can pull 60 FPS off in the full game.   Theorry Member Oct 27, 2017 69,045 "target" Uh huh. We know how that is gonna go.  Jakartalado Member Oct 27, 2017 2,818 São Paulo, Brazil Skot said: 720p on Series S incoming Click to expand... Click to shrink... If the PS5 is internally at 720p up to 900p, I seriously doubt that.  Revoltoftheunique Member Jan 23, 2022 2,312 It will be unstable 60fps with lots of stuttering.   defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,485 Austin KRT said: Series S was a mistake Click to expand... Click to shrink... With that same attitude in this case you could say consoles are the mistake. You on your Series X or PS5 Pro are holding my 5090 back. Not so fun of a take anymore. Thats why its stupid.   Horns Member Dec 7, 2018 3,423 I hope Microsoft drops the requirement for Series S by the time this comes out.   chris 1515 Member Oct 27, 2017 7,116 Barcelona Spain PLASTICA-MAN said: There is kinda a misconception of how Lumen and the hybrid RT is handled in UE5 titles. AO is also part of the ray traced pipeline through the HW Lumen too. Just shadows are handled separately from the RT system by using VSM which in final look behvae quite like RT shadows in shape, same how FF16 handled the shadows looking like RT ones while it isn't traced. UE5 can still trace shadows if they want to push things even further. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes indirect shadows are handled by hardware lumen. But at the end ot doesn¡t change my comment. i think the game will be 600´720p at 30 fps on Series S.  bitcloudrzr Member May 31, 2018 21,044 Spoit said: And yet people keep talking about somehow getting PS6 games to work on the sony portable, which is probably going to be like half as powerful as a PS5, like that won't hold games back Click to expand... Click to shrink... Has it been confirmed that Sony is going to have release requirements like the XS?   Commander Shepherd Member Jan 27, 2023 173 Anyone remember when no load screens was talked about for Witcher 3?   chris 1515 Member Oct 27, 2017 7,116 Barcelona Spain No this is probably different than most game are doing it here the main focus is the 60 fps mode and after they can create a balanced(40 fps) and 30 fps mode. This is not the other way around.  stanman Member Feb 13, 2025 235 defaltoption said: With that same attitude in this case you could say consoles are the mistake. You on your Series X or PS5 Pro are holding my 5090 back. Not so fun of a take anymore. Thats why its stupid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... And your mistake is comparing a PC graphics card to a console.  PLASTICA-MAN Member Oct 26, 2017 29,563 chris 1515 said: Yes indirect shadows are handled by hardware lumen. But at the end ot doesn¡t change my comment. i think the game will be 600´720p at 30 fps on Series S. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes. I am sure Series S will have HW solution but probably at 30 FPS. that would be a miracle if they achieve 60 FPS.  ArchedThunder Uncle Beerus Member Oct 25, 2017 21,278 chris 1515 said: It will be a full port a few years after like The Witcher 3., they don't use software lumen here. I doubt the Switch 2 Raytracing capaclity is high enough to use the same pipeline to produce the Switch 2 version. EDIT: And they probably need to redo all the assets. https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1l4a1o4/fortnite_on_the_switch_2_looks_great_these_low/ Fortnite doesn't use Nanite and Lumen on Switch 2. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fortnite not using Lumen or Nanite at launch doesn't mean they can't run well on Switch 2. It's a launch port and they prioritized clean IQ and 60fps. I wouldn't be surprised to see them added later. Also it's not like the ray tracing in a Witcher 3 port has to match PS5, there's a lot of scaling back that can be done with ray tracing without ripping out the kitchen sink. Software lumen is also likely to be an option on P.   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,465 Interesting times ahead.... bitcloudrzr said: Has it been confirmed that Sony is going to have release requirements like the XS? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Your know good n well everything about this rumor has been confirmed. /S  Derbel McDillet ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 23, 2022 25,250 Chronos said: This better not be a Cyberpunk situation all over again. If they can't get it to work on S, then they may just need to abandon that console. Work out a deal with MS or wait for their next generation. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How does this sound like a Cyberpunk issue? They didn't say they can't get it to work on the S.   defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,485 Austin stanman said: And your mistake is comparing a PC graphics card to a console. Click to expand... Click to shrink...   reksveks Member May 17, 2022 7,628 Horns said: I hope Microsoft drops the requirement for Series S by the time this comes out. Click to expand... Click to shrink... why? dev can make it 30 fps on series s and 60 fps on series x if needed. if they aren't or don't have to drop it for gta vi, they probably ain't dropping it for tw4.  chris 1515 Member Oct 27, 2017 7,116 Barcelona Spain defaltoption said: With that same attitude in this case you could say consoles are the mistake. You on your Series X or PS5 Pro are holding my 5090 back. Not so fun of a take anymore. Thats why its stupid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... No the consoles won't hold back your 5090 because the game is created with hardware lumen, RT reflection, virtual shadows maps and Nanite plus Nanite vegetation in minds. Maybe Nanite character too in final version? If the game was made with software lumen as the base it would have holding back your 5090... Your PC will have much better IQ, framerate and better raytracing with Megalight(direct raytraced shadows with tons of lighe source) and better raytracing settings in general.  bitcloudrzr Member May 31, 2018 21,044 jroc74 said: Interesting times ahead.... Your know good n well everything about this rumor has been confirmed. /S Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sony is like the opposite of a platform holder "forcing" adoption, for better or worse.   defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,485 Austin chris 1515 said: No the consoles won't hold back yout 5090 because the game is created with hardware lumen, RT reflection, virtual shadows maps and Nanite plus Nanite vegetation in minds. Maybe Nanite character too in final version? If the game was made with software lumen as the base it would have holding back your 5090... Your PC will have much better IQ, framerate and better raytracing with Megalight(direct raytraced shadows) and better raytracing settings in general. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Exactly, the series s is not a "mistake" or holding any version of the game on console or even PC back, that's what I'm saying to the person I replied to, its stupid to say that.   cursed beef Member Jan 3, 2021 998 Have to imagine MS will lift the Series S parity clause when the next consoles launch. Which will be before/around the time W4 hits, right?   Alvis Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 25, 2017 12,270 EU Chronos said: This better not be a Cyberpunk situation all over again. If they can't get it to work on S, then they may just need to abandon that console. Work out a deal with MS or wait for their next generation. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ? they said that 60 FPS on Series S is challenging, not the act of releasing the game there at all. The game can simply run at 30 FPS on Series S if they can't pull off 60 FPS. Or have a 40 FPS mode in lieu of 60 FPS. The CPU and storage speed differences between last gen and current gen were gigantic. This isn't even remotely close to a comparable situation.  defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,485 Austin misqoute post   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,465 defaltoption said: With that same attitude in this case you could say consoles are the mistake. You on your Series X or PS5 Pro are holding my 5090 back. Not so fun of a take anymore. Thats why its stupid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ah yes, clearly 5090 cards are the vast majority of the minimum requirements for PC games. How can anyone say this with a straight face anymore when there are now PC games running on a Steam Deck. At least ppl saying that about the Series S are comparing it to other consoles. That said, it is interesting they are focusing on consoles first, then PC. 

Red Kong XIX Member Oct 11, 2020 13,560 This is assuming that the handheld can play PS4 games natively without any issues, so they are not included in the poll. Hardware leaker Kepler said it should be able to run PS5 games, even without a patch, but with a performance impact potentially.  Hero_of_the_Day Avenger Oct 27, 2017 19,958 Isn't the rumor that games don't require patches to run on it? That would imply that support isn't mandatory, but automatic.   Homura ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 20, 2019 7,232 As the post above said, the rumor is the PS5 portable will be able to run natively any and all PS4/PS5 games. Of course, some games might not work properly or require specific patches, but the idea is automatic compatibility.  shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 42,292 Ideally you'd want stuff to pretty much work out of the box. The more you ask devs to do, the less I imagine will want to support it... Or suddenly games get parred down so that they can run on handhelds (which considering how people hated cross gen for that reason, they'd hate it here as well). I personally would just prefer a solution where its automatic. I dont really care about a Sony handheld, dont really want devs to be forced to support the thing (considering how shit Sony is at supporting its peripherals - like the Vita or PSVR2)  Modest_Modsoul Living the Dreams Member Oct 29, 2017 28,418 🤷‍♂️   setmymindforopensky Member Apr 20, 2025 67 a lot of games have performance modes. it should run a lot of the library even without any patching. if there's multiplat im sure itll default to the PS4 ver. im not sure what theyd do for something like GTA6 but itll have a series S version so its clearly scalable enough. im guessing PSTV situation. support it or not we dont care.  reksveks Member May 17, 2022 7,628 Think Kepler is personally assuming the goal of running without patches is a goal and one that won't happen just cause it's too late to force it. It's going to be an interesting solution to an interesting problem  Servbot24 The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 47,826 Obviously not. Pretty absurd question tbh.   RivalGT Member Dec 13, 2017 7,616 This one sounds like it requires a lot of work on Sony's end, I dont think developers will need to do much for games to work. Granted moving forward Sony is likely to make it easier for devs to have a more input on this portable mode. Things working out of the box is likely the goal, and thats what Sony needs if they want this to work, but devs having more input on this mode would be a plus I think.  Callibretto Member Oct 25, 2017 10,445 Indonesia shadowman16 said: Ideally you'd want stuff to pretty much work out of the box. The more you ask devs to do, the less I imagine will want to support it... Or suddenly games get parred down so that they can run on handhelds (which considering how people hated cross gen for that reason, they'd hate it here as well). I personally would just prefer a solution where its automatic. I dont really care about a Sony handheld, dont really want devs to be forced to support the thing (considering how shit Sony is at supporting its peripherals - like the Vita or PSVR2) Click to expand... Click to shrink... depend on the game imo, asking CD Project to somehow make Witcher 4 playable on handheld might be unreasonable. but any game that can run on Switch 2 should be playable on PSPortable without much issue   Pheonix1 Member Jun 22, 2024 716 Absolutely they will. Not sure why people think it would be hard, if they hand them.the right tools most ports won't take long anyhow.   skeezx Member Oct 27, 2017 23,994 guessing there will be a "portable approved" label with the respective games going forward, regardless whether it's a PS5 or PS6 game. and when the thing is released popular past titles will be retroactively approved by sony, and up to developers if they want to patch the bigger games to be portable friendly. i guess where things could get tricky/laborious for developers is whether every game going forward is required to screen for portable performance, as it's not a PC so the portable will likely disallow for running "non-approved" games at all  AmFreak Member Oct 26, 2017 3,245 They need to give people some form of guarantee that it will get games, otherwise they greatly diminish their potential success. The best way to do this is to make it another SKU of the contemporary console. And with (close to) everything already running at 60fps and progression slowing to a crawl it's far easier than it had been in the past.  Ruck Member Oct 25, 2017 3,105 I mean, what is the handheld? PS6? Or an actual second console? If the former, then yes, if the latter then no   TitanicFall Member Nov 12, 2017 9,340 Nah. It might be incentivized though. There's not much in it for devs if it's a cross buy situation.   Callibretto Member Oct 25, 2017 10,445 Indonesia imo, PS6 will remain their main console, focusing on high fidelity visuals that Switch 2 and portable PC won't be able to run without huge compromise. PSPortable will be secondary console, something like PSPortal, but this time able to play any games that Switch2 can reasonably run. and for the high end games that it can't run, it will use streaming, either from PS6 you own, or PS+ Premium subs  bleits Member Oct 14, 2023 373 They have to if they want to be taken seriously   Vic Damone Jr. Member Oct 27, 2017 20,534 Nope Sony doesn't mandate this stuff and it's why their second product always dies.   fiendcode Member Oct 26, 2017 26,514 I think it depends on what the device really is, if it's more of a "Portal 2" or a "Series SP" or something else entirely (PSP3?). Streaming might be enough for PS6 games along with incentivized PS5/4 patches but whatever SIE does they need to make sure their inhouse teams are ALL on board this time. That was a big part of PSP/Vita's downfall, that the biggest or most important PS Studios snubbed them and the teams that did show up with support are mostly closed and gone now.   Callibretto Member Oct 25, 2017 10,445 Indonesia bleits said: They have to if they want to be taken seriously Click to expand... Click to shrink... from the last interview with PS exec about Switch 2 spec, it seems clear that PS have no plan to abandon high end console spec to switch to mobile hardware like Switch 2 and Xbox Ally. PS consider their high fidelity visual as advantage and differentiator from Nintendo. so with PS6, their top studio will eventuall make games that just won't realistically run on handheld devices. so having a mandate where all PS6 games is playable on handheld is simply unrealistic imo  danm999 Member Oct 29, 2017 19,929 Sydney Incentives, not mandates.   NSESN ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 27,729 I think people are setting themselves for disappointment in regards for how powerful this thing will be   defaltoption Plug in a controller and enter the Konami code The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 12,485 Austin Depends on what they call it. If they call it anything related to ps6, expect very bad performance, and mandates If they call it ps5 portable, expect bad performance and no mandates as it will be handled on their end If they call it a ps portable expect it to have no support from Sony and get whatever it gets just be happy it functions till they abandon it.  Metnut Member Apr 7, 2025 30 Good question OP. I voted the middle one. I think anything that ships for PS5 will need to work for the handheld. Question is whether that works automatically or will need patches.  mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,807 I think that would require a level of commitment to a secondary piece of hardware that Sony hasn't shown in a long time.   Patison Member Oct 27, 2017 761 It's difficult to say without knowing what they're planning with this device exactly. If they're fully going Switch route (or PS Vita/PS TV route) or more like a Steam Deck, which will run launch games perfectly and then, as time goes on, some titles might start looking less than ideal or be unplayable at all. Or Series S/X, just the Series S being portable — that would be preferable but also limiting but also diminishing returns between generations so might be worth it etc. And if that device happens at all and its development won't be dropped soon is another question. Lots of unknowns, but I'm interested to see what Sony comes up with, as long as they'll have games to support it this time around.  Jammerz Member Apr 29, 2023 1,579 I think it will be optional support. However sony needs to support it with their first parties to set an example and making it as easy as possible for other devs to scale down. For sony first party games maybe use nixxes to scale down so their studios aren't bogged down.  Hamchan The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 6,000 I think 99.9% of games will be crossgen between PS5 and PS6 for the entire generation, just based on how this industry is going, so it might not be much of an issue for Sony to mandate.   Advance.Wars.Sgt. Member Jun 10, 2018 10,456 Honestly, I'd worry more about Sony's 1st party teams than 3rd party developers since they were notoriously adverse making software with a handheld power profile in mind.   overthewaves Member Sep 30, 2020 1,203 Wouldn't that hamstring the games for ps6? That's PlayStation players biggest fear they don't want a series S type situation right? They treat series S like a punching bag.   Neonvisions Member Oct 27, 2017 707 overthewaves said: Wouldn't that hamstring the games for ps6? That's PlayStation players biggest fear they don't want a series S type situation right? They treat series S like a punching bag. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How would that effect PS6? Are you suggesting that the Series S hamstrings games for the X?  Gwarm Member Nov 13, 2017 2,902 I'd be shocked if Sony released a device that let's you play games that haven't been patched or confirmed to run acceptably. Imagine if certain games just hard crashed the console? This is the company that wouldn't let you play certain Vita games on the PSTV even if they actually worked.   bloopland33 Member Mar 4, 2020 3,845 I wonder if they'll just do the Steam Deck thing and do a compatibility badge. You can boot whatever software you want, but it might run at 5 fps and drain your battery. This would be in addition to whatever efforts they're doing to make things work out of the box, of course. But it's hard to imagine them mandating developers ship a PS6 profile and a PS6P profile for those heavier games 5-7 years from now… ….but it's also hard to imagine them shipping this PS6-gen device that doesn't play everything (depending on how they position it). So maybe they Steam Deck it  vivftp Member Oct 29, 2017 23,016 My guess, every PS6 game will be mandated to support it. PS5 games will support it natively for the simpler games and will require a patch as has been rumored to run on lesser specs I think next gen we get PS3 and Vita emulation so the PS6 and portable will be able to play games from PSN from every past PlayStation  Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,636 Really need to take the Steam Deck approach and don't make it a requirement. Just make it a complementary device where it is possible to play majority of the games available on PSN.   overthewaves Member Sep 30, 2020 1,203 Neonvisions said: How would that effect PS6? Are you suggesting that the Series S hamstrings games for the X? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean did you see the reaction here to the series S announcement lol. Everyone was saying it's gonna "hold back the generation".   reksveks Member May 17, 2022 7,628 Neonvisions said: How would that effect PS6? Are you suggesting that the Series S hamstrings games for the X? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Or the perception is that it does but the truth is that there is a lot of factors   Fabs Member Aug 22, 2019 2,827 I can't see the forcing handheld and pro support next gen.   level Member May 25, 2023 1,427 Definitely not Games already take too long to make. Extra time isn't something they'll want to reinforce to their developers.  gofreak Member Oct 26, 2017 8,411 I don't think support will be mandatory. I think they're bringing it into a reality where a growing portion of games can, or could, run without much change or effort on the developer's part on a next gen handheld. They'll lean on that natural trend rather than a policy - anything that is outside of that will just be streamable as now with the Portal.   Caiusto Member Oct 25, 2017 7,086 If they don't want to end up with another Vita yes they will.   mute ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 29,807 Advance.Wars.Sgt. said: Honestly, I'd worry more about Sony's 1st party teams than 3rd party developers since they were notoriously adverse making software with a handheld power profile in mind. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It does seem kinda unthinkable that Intergalactic would be made with a handheld in mind, for example.   AmFreak Member Oct 26, 2017 3,245 mute said: It does seem kinda unthinkable that Intergalactic would be made with a handheld in mind, for example. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ratchet, Returnal, Cyberpunk, etc. also weren't made "with a handheld in mind".   Spoit Member Oct 28, 2017 5,599 Given how much of a pain the series S mandate has been, I don't see them binding even first party studios to it, especially ones that are trying to go for the cutting edge of tech. Since given AMDs timelines, is not going to be anywhere near a base PS5. I'm also skeptical of the claim that'll be able to play ps5 games without extensive patching.  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 45,166 Ibis Island No, I think the portable will handle portable stuff "automatically" for what it converts   knightmawk Member Dec 12, 2018 8,900 I expect they'll do everything they can to make sure no one has to think about it and it's as automatic as possible. It'll technically still be part of cert, but the goal will be for it to be rare that a game fails that part of cert and has to be sent back. That being said, I imagine there will be some games that still don't work and developers will be able to submit for that exception.  RivalGT Member Dec 13, 2017 7,616 I think the concept here is similar to how PS4 games play on PS5, the ones with patches I mean, the game will run with a different graphics preset then it would on PS4/ PS4 Pro, so in some cases this means higher resolution or higher frame rate cap. What Sony needs to work on their end is getting this to work without any patches from developers. Its the only way this can work.  Vexii Member Oct 31, 2017 3,103 UK if they don't mandate support, it'll just be a death knell for the format. I don't think they could get away with a dedicated handheld platform now when the Switch and Steam Deck exists   Mobius and Pet Octopus Member Oct 25, 2017 17,065 Just because a game can run on a handheld, doesn't mean that's all required for support. The UI alone likely requires changes for an optimal experience, sometimes necessary to be "playable". Small screen sizes usually needs changes.   SeanMN Member Oct 28, 2017 2,437 If PS6 games support is optional, that will create fragmentation of the platform and uncertain software support. If it's part of the PS6 family and support is mandatory, I can see there being concern that if would hold the generation back with a low capability sku. My thoughts are this should be a PS6 and support the same as the primary console. 

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Sangral Powered by Friendship™ Member Feb 17, 2022 8,649 From one of the biggest and most dedicated HDR analysis channels out there. Thought that's a big enough topic on its own, because of the analysis, for a separate thread. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N637VB4FYxg 450 nits maximum peak brightness (personal comparison, Switch OLED without any HDR has 340 nits, an LG C2 TV in HDR has 800 nits, Steam Deck OLED screen has 1000 nits, Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra 2600 nits.) Games like Zelda Breath of the Wild have raised blacks even in Docked HDR gameplay with a raised black level floor and the game looking washed out HDR docked can be good if games are optimized for it like Cyberpunk, which he refers to being exactly like on PS5 and PC, HDR wise or Fast Fusion as one of the rare games that actually have a good black level floor in HDR   Last edited: 39 minutes ago blueredandgold Member Oct 25, 2017 8,739 Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?   gabdeg Member Oct 26, 2017 7,420 🐝 Sadly what I expected since the moment we learned it was edge-lit LCD. Would've at least expected nigher peak nits though.   Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 25,072 A shame, because Switch 2 is like the first time I'll see HDR, as my old TV isn't compatible :/   Paper Cheese Member Oct 9, 2019 558 I've got to assume this is the sort of thing that most of us hi-fi tech illiterate lot won't notice until they bring out a better screen model in a few years.   Fortinbras Member Oct 27, 2017 2,073 Well that sucks but it's Nintendo...did anyone expect anything different? I'm only going to use it docked so hopefully they can fix the HDR via update.  Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 2,482 Not surprised, but not a big issue for me personally.   Antony Member Oct 25, 2017 4,054 Ahhh the obligatory Nintendo Crap Display (Before You Buy a Whole New Model to Get a Decent One) it's positively tradition at this point   Friendly Bear Member Jan 11, 2019 4,162 I Don’t Care Where (Just Far) Even with an edge lit LCD, I was expecting brighter highlights. A lot of the preview event coverage made it sound like the screen was insanely bright, and that's clearly not the case.   NoSpin Member Nov 1, 2017 83 As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)   Mivey Member Oct 25, 2017 20,753 Paper Cheese said: I've got to assume this is the sort of thing that most of us hi-fi tech illiterate lot won't notice until they bring out a better screen model in a few years. Click to expand... Click to shrink... the raised blacks on dark content is pretty clear if you play in any kind of darker environment, if you have any kind of OLED screen to compare. Case in point, if you own a Switch 1 OLED, you'll notice the stark differences for certain kinds of content right away. OTOH, if you have been using a launch Switch 1 and never had any issues with how it looks, you'll be fine. Just make sure to stay away from OLED screen, lest you gain the ability to see the differences.   Decarb Member Oct 27, 2017 9,280 HDR on edge-lit LCD is kind of a scam anyway. Kouriozan said: A shame, because Switch 2 is like the first time I'll see HDR, as my old TV isn't compatible :/ Click to expand... Click to shrink... If you have a phone made in last couple of years you've probably seen HDR.   horkrux Member Oct 27, 2017 6,531 Well, kinda expected, so I'm not too bothered by it. Not like you can change it.   Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,041 Nintendo saving that sweet sweet OLED for a refresh.   Buddy Member Oct 25, 2017 1,773 Germany I have mine in my hands right now.... don't know about HDR stuff too much but Mario Kart looks gorgeous on it.   DieH@rd Member Oct 26, 2017 12,083 Decarb said: HDR on edge-lit LCD is kind of a scam anyway. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ^ this.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 30,321 Most of this stuff was clear from the Preview Events, at least DF talked about it. Didn't seem to bother a majority of people playing though. Was pretty much set when it wasn't going to be OLED.  John Frost Member Oct 27, 2017 9,658 Canada Well, that's disappointing..   Milk Prophet of Truth Avenger Oct 25, 2017 4,301 NoSpin said: As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :) Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers.   345 Member Oct 30, 2017 10,410 it's about as good as i was expecting. HDR on an LCD basically means "we're actually going to tune content for the screen's color gamut", and it does the job on that level. mario kart does look punchier and more vibrant than it would in SDR while obviously not offering the same contrast as an OLED. dunno who this guy is but if he's really "very disappointed" i'm not sure he knows very much about screens. i'm sure it's just ragebait  JimNastics Member Jan 11, 2018 1,607 345 said: 'm sure it's just ragebait Click to expand... Click to shrink... No way!! :D You could tell just from the thumbnail.  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 20,238 "crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 30,321 Milk said: It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Seems to be on par what you would get with an LCD. The OG Switch 1 has a bad LCD Screen, the OG Steam Deck has an even worse.....this video is making it seem like Switch 2 Screen is as bad as these screens or even worse. When it seems to be quite solid for an LCD, but in certain areas it can compete with an OLED.  Alex840 Member Oct 31, 2017 5,373 And yet most of the games media doing previews have been like "oh I can barely tell the difference compared to the OLED". Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?  Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 2,482 SDR low brightness in a dark room then   Dranakin Member Oct 27, 2017 2,999 Ooof. Although, I will admit, I probably can't tell between good and bad sceens. I mean, I have the Ayaneo Pocket DMG and everyone says it's an amazing screen. It looks normal to me? Alex840 said: Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them? Click to expand... Click to shrink... An OLED 120hz? The Odin 2 Portal has one (smaller size and without VRR), but I don't have a sense of the component cost.  Kabuki Waq Member Oct 26, 2017 6,034 The screen is a pretty big downgrade from oled but a huge upgrade from the OG. I really miss the perfect blacks. MKW is gorgeous but would have looked so much better on an oled screen  Harmen Member Aug 30, 2023 1,462 The HDR and lifted black should not come as a surprise. But the video doesn't really analyze why it would be below average for an LCD screen? Colours? Pixel response time? For example the original Switch 1 LCD look reaaally bad to me these days, but my Steam Deck LCD screen (similar resolution) looks good to me outside of raised blacks in dark scenes (which I do get used to).   nogoodnamesleft Member Oct 25, 2017 8,605 Yep. I fucking knew it. Knew it was going to be trash. LCD is trash as a standard (yes miniled included with its trash ass pixel response time) Will wait for oled version.  cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 30,321 Aleh said: "crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Focus of the whole channel is HDR. Dude is likely just used to comparing HDR content on very expensive OLED Screens. So HDR bad = everything trash for him. Something that won't be the case for 99% of users out there. Its the single voter issue again, disregarding everything else because of one focus point and expecting every one to feel the same way about it.  Serif Member Oct 31, 2024 410 Alex840 said: Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them? Click to expand... Click to shrink... An OLED 1080p HDR VRR 120 Hz screen does not sound like it would be cost-effective. It makes sense to establish baseline specs like 120 Hz support for developers to target and upgrade to OLED in the future instead of trying to add 120 Hz support later on.  fourfourfun Member Oct 27, 2017 9,149 England Aleh said: "crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If you're an enthusiast display platform, you're going to be benchmarking against the absolute best. So comparatively it could not be as good. Obviously it doesn't take into account what the entire platform delivers as a whole and the price it was trying to hit. It's a rather zoomed in look at just one thing.  RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,449 Still sounds like an upgrade from the launch Switch LCD, though those nits are pretty low   Koklusz Member Oct 27, 2017 3,971 blueredandgold said: Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please? Click to expand... Click to shrink... The screen is bad, and the native HDR implementation in the games he tested is shoddy.   NoSpin Member Nov 1, 2017 83 Milk said: It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.  Wasp Member Oct 29, 2017 351 It's a shame they couldn't release an OLED SKU at launch. I would have happily paid an extra $100 for an OLED model and I'm sure many are the same. I know I'll be keeping my box in pristine condition to get maximum value when I trade the console in for a Switch 2 OLED in hopefully a few years.  Last edited: 51 minutes ago pswii60 Member Oct 27, 2017 28,932 The Milky Way This means that for handheld purposes, Switch 2 is actually a downgrade on Switch 1 OLED, for any games that aren't taking advantage of the additional power/resolution. So basically, you might want to hold on to your Switch 1 OLED for all your pixel art indies, and any games not getting a patch/upgrade.  Shadow One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 4,837 Kinda what I expected. Being LCD with HDR especially on portable device at that is never a good combo. I'll just play on my OLED TV when I want to get the full experience, which again, is what I expected. I hope it's a bit usable outside at least. I was hoping closer to 600 nits for that alone, as the Deck OLED is JUST usable on a sunny day. But you can't have everything I guess.  UnderJollyRoger Member Jun 16, 2023 648 Germany The screen is also my biggest concern of the unit. The og switch has an absolutely atrocious screen and LCDs just dont cut it anymore for me. The low nits will make it again pretty difficult to properly play outside. I am commuting a lot and sitting on a train with a bit of sun outside was already too much for the og switch. Here is hoping that an OLED variant will come earlier this time.  Milk Prophet of Truth Avenger Oct 25, 2017 4,301 NoSpin said: I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You're implying being critical means you're not also enjoying the video games. I'm critical of tons of my favorite games. I'm still having a fun time with the games 🤷  HandsomeCharles Member Oct 26, 2017 4,717 Disappointing to hear, but as someone who thinks his OG switch's screen is fine, I'm sure it won't really bother me.   OP OP Sangral Powered by Friendship™ Member Feb 17, 2022 8,649 blueredandgold said: Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm trying to add some bullet points to the OT.  Ghost Slayer Member Oct 30, 2017 1,433 is it like PS Portal LCD screen? Because I think the Portal LCD screen is really good   Decarb Member Oct 27, 2017 9,280 pswii60 said: This means that for handheld purposes, Switch 2 is actually a downgrade on Switch 1 OLED, for any games that aren't taking advantage of the additional power/resolution. So basically, you might want to hold on to your Switch 1 OLED for all your pixel art indies, and any games not getting a patch/upgrade. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh I don't think there's any doubt from pure IQ perspective its a downgrade from Switch 1 OLED. Even without HDR support at max brightness that screen pops like nothing else.   Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,041 NoSpin said: I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is a silly comparison since he's not reviewing a screen from 1996 when it first came out, screen technology has exploded since the first iPhone, seems like a needless jab.  Melhadf Member Dec 25, 2017 2,528 My understanding is that 400nits is the minimum for HDR. So it's technically HDR, but usually dismissed by purists as not "real HDR" such as this vid with his HDR10 testing (1000nits standard). So it's a definite improvement over SDR content, but Nintendo then used an LCD instead of OLED so it most likely looks worse than the OLED switch. Feels like Nintendo is using minimum HDR as a crutch to cheap out on the screen and people are saying it's not "TRUE HDR" even though it's completely within spec.  vegtro Member Oct 25, 2017 808 Aleh said: "crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is. Click to expand... Click to shrink... When I first booted the Switch 2, I wanted to believe the screen will be ok from the news. Nope, the screen pretty much is pretty bad compared to OLED.   Alvis Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Oct 25, 2017 12,148 EU A bit of a shame, meh NoSpin said: As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes indeed, this dude is set on a mission to personally ruin your experience, and he's now crying in a corner knowing that he failed.   fourfourfun Member Oct 27, 2017 9,149 England Shadow said: But you can't have everything I guess. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think that's the thing, they went for resolution and VRR as a priority. I'm sure I also read on here a while ago that it also centres around the availability of appropriate screens. OLED only became viable after a certain point.  Pargon Member Oct 27, 2017 14,110 I thought I had appropriately-low expectations, but I was thinking it would be a 600 nit 1800:1 panel. Not 450 nits and 900:1. The only thing "HDR" about it is probably that content will be authored to make use of a wider color gamut. 

--R Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,715   Last edited: Yesterday at 7:38 PM Lukar Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth Member Oct 27, 2017 28,593 Includes two modes: one that's similar to the original release, and a new one that features additional content, updated UI, and more. EDIT: Confirmed for PS4, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, Switch, Switch 2, and PC via Steam. SQUARE ENIX | The Official SQUARE ENIX Website Welcome to the official SQUARE ENIX website. Find all the latest news and updates about your favourite games and upcoming releases. www.square-enix-games.com   Last edited: Yesterday at 6:06 PM Transistor The Walnut King Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,807 Washington, D.C. SCREAMING!!!!   MidasTouch Member Dec 29, 2023 1,363 In CBU3 we trust.   Stef Member Oct 28, 2017 7,838 Rome, Italy, Planet Earth We waited all those years for this?   Milennia Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter Member Oct 25, 2017 19,814 Florida WE FUCKING DID IT   MrDaravon Member Oct 25, 2017 2,120 THE THUNDER GOD RETURNS ASHHH;KLASDHFK;LASJNFD;LAND  Lobster Roll signature-less, now and forever™ Member Sep 24, 2019 40,513 Everybody pile in. Final Fantasy Tactics is BACK.   mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 33,444 Gongaga FUCK YESSS Now to wait for FFIX remake  BPHusker Member Oct 26, 2017 2,313 Nebraska Is it going to have a physical version?   Taifun Devilry Member Sep 3, 2020 42 FINALLY   TheZynster Member Oct 26, 2017 14,836 thats a remaster not a remake lol but still cool  Techno Powered by Friendship™ The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 6,861 On my birthday!!   Wilsongt Member Oct 25, 2017 19,483 YOSHIP YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!   OrangeNova Member Oct 30, 2017 14,865 Canada I am losing my mind, I cannot wait   ap_2 Member Jan 23, 2021 1,898 I need more pls now pls more now pls   DrFunk Member Oct 25, 2017 14,933 Hey, that's my birthday   Figgy Member Nov 1, 2024 1,857 --R said: Perfection.  Kazer "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 3,123 Fucking FINALLY!   Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,964 Spain Final Fantasy Tactics is one of my favorite games... but I'm not particularly convinced by the remaster they've done. It looks very... flat.   Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 26,220 North Carolina GIVE IT TO ME   Delaney Member Oct 25, 2017 3,971 Are y'all happy now   Sasliquid Member Oct 25, 2017 4,700 Big fan of including the older version as well   DidactBRHU3 Member Oct 17, 2019 4,517 Fortaleza - Ceará I know this is big news but that's it?   Skoje Member Oct 26, 2017 1,887 OH SHIT   Geg Member Oct 25, 2017 6,638 The two versions thing is cool   Tagovailoa Member Feb 5, 2023 1,677 I am intrigued   thetrin Member Oct 26, 2017 10,918 Grand Junction, CO LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO   GillianSeed79 Member Oct 27, 2017 3,076 God is real. Yessssssssssssss!   ravn0s "This guy are sick" Member Oct 29, 2017 2,065 Is it a Playstation exclusive?   BlackJace The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 5,900 No bullshit this is the best announcement in ages   Megaten Member Oct 30, 2017 245 Fiiiiiiinally this got announced! Awesome to include the original version in as well.   BY2K Membero Americo The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 5,071 Québec, Canada Wait, is it more than just the first game or did I misunderstand?   Kain Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 9,125 Ok yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I'm so fucking in Both versions I want to see the additions Aaaaaaaaaa  ClearMetal Hey, it's that sheep! Member Oct 25, 2017 19,077 the Netherlands Hyped for this. Couldn't get into War of the Lions, but I was way younger back then. I will probably stick with Classic, though. Not a big fan of how smoothed over everything in the the enhanced version looks.  Yoshimitsu126 The Fallen Nov 11, 2017 17,620 United States Oh so that's what those sprite characters are from. Seen them a lot back in the 2000s I feel.   aerie be choatic good Administrator Oct 25, 2017 8,908 Fantastic, and super glad we've getting two versions like that.   Burt Fight Sephiroth or end video games Member Oct 28, 2017 9,720 really had me excited for the first 8 or so seconds  Wiserus ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 26, 2017 3,877 Canada Yes, yes, yes yes, yeessss. I just wished for a PC version as well, but fuck that. I'll double dip when it comes out.   BobLoblaw This Guy Helps Member Oct 27, 2017 8,882 Thought it would be a remake. :( Interested in the new mode with the VO turned to zero.   Stef Member Oct 28, 2017 7,838 Rome, Italy, Planet Earth Glio said: Final Fantasy Tactics is one of my favorite games... but I'm not particularly convinced by the remaster they've done. It looks very... flat. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. Played on PlayStation and again on PSP. Not interested in this at all.  kakteen Member Apr 9, 2024 1,036 FUCKING FINALLY! I even bought this on my phone, because I thought this will never happen   Jolliwasp Member Apr 13, 2024 92 Ported HD Mobile graphics with voice acting, as expected...   Bear Member Oct 25, 2017 12,344 Hellllllllll yessssssss   Quinton Verified Oct 25, 2017 23,173 Midgar, With Love Hell yeah   Plinkerton Member Nov 4, 2017 7,493 I've never played this game before. Excited to play it on Switch 2!   Makoto Yuki ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 5,284 FUCK YES!!!!   7thFloor Member Oct 27, 2017 7,377 U.S. Gonna be honest I'm pretty disappointed, at least it has a classic mode   OhhEldenRing Member Aug 14, 2024 2,980 Finally   Toth Member Oct 26, 2017 5,591 I'm psyched but it doesn't look that much better tbh  

NookNinja Member Jan 15, 2025 504 tokyo Switch 2 is hype. hype season is here. God knows that I am more hyped about this than anyone. But there is one section of the hardware I feel they really fucked up The damn Joycon trofts on sides of the tablet are colored. WHY Should have been like this man, i swear to god. what the hell were they thinking? I buy all the joycon colors. What are they going to do? make a green joycon with blue and red inside?! WHAT THE FUCK. my OCD is not ready for this.. I legit might not buy more joycon because of this.  Wrexis Member Nov 4, 2017 29,759 NookNinja said: Should have been like this man, i swear to god. what the hell were they thinking? Click to expand... Click to shrink... "The blue one goes in the blue slot, the red one goes in the red slot." I can see why they did it.  OhhEldenRing Member Aug 14, 2024 2,964 Maybe they'll have a plain grey Switch2 at some point like the OG and absent the joy con. I suspect those internal colours are specific to the joy cons they are packaged with. Still doesn't solve your problem lol  PapaJustify Member Nov 3, 2017 1,325 Germany What if they are not selling new colors seperately anymore but only in a Switch 2 bundle with the matching color on the device? Or they do sell seperately but you have to live with matching a green Joy-Con insert with a blue port on your Switch 2.  Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 20,211 It's silly but annoying yeah. At least it won't be a real issue since you can't see the mismatch when they're attached   Liam Allen-Miller Member Nov 2, 2017 8,037 Shibuya NookNinja said: [...] I buy all the joycon colors. What are they going to do? make a green joycon with blue and red inside?! WHAT THE FUCK. my OCD is not ready for this.. I legit might not buy more joycon because of this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well, I don't want to tell you what to do with your money, but maybe not having to buy every color Joy-Con isn't such a bad thing! :P Real talk I have to imagine future units will have different color schemes. When I was looking at the demo unit at my local Bic Camera I was thinking the same thing, that it was an odd choice.  Pentagon Member Mar 14, 2025 73 Much like themes, you're going to get two colours the whole generation and you're going to like it, dammit!   Dukie85 Chicken Chaser Member Oct 25, 2017 3,165 NookNinja said: Switch 2 is hype. hype season is here. God knows that I am more hyped about this than anyone. But there is one section of the hardware I feel they really fucked up The damn Joycon trofts on sides of the tablet are colored. WHY Should have been like this man, i swear to god. what the hell were they thinking? I buy all the joycon colors. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Peer, is that you?   SixelAlexiS Member Oct 27, 2017 9,267 Italy NookNinja said: Switch 2 is hype. hype season is here. God knows that I am more hyped about this than anyone. But there is one section of the hardware I feel they really fucked up The damn Joycon trofts on sides of the tablet are colored. WHY Should have been like this man, i swear to god. what the hell were they thinking? I buy all the joycon colors. What are they going to do? make a green joycon with blue and red inside?! WHAT THE FUCK. my OCD is not ready for this.. I legit might not buy more joycon because of this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm more annoyed by the first image not working :P   Shahadan Member Oct 27, 2017 5,620 Bluer and Redder edition Or they will color the black part and leave the blue and red for maximum ugliness. Or better yet they change the inner colors but release a switch 2 model with matching trofts, each time. You'll have to buy them all  KaladinSB Member Oct 27, 2017 844 They have the PLUS and MINUS indicator so the inner plastic doesn't have to color match. You'd only have to push through the agony for a few seconds when you see the green joycon going in or out of the blue slot or train yourself to do it blindfolded.   OP OP NookNinja Member Jan 15, 2025 504 tokyo i hate that there is color on the inside of the grooves. infuriating. It will bother me every time I put something that doesnt match it on there. WHY   OP OP NookNinja Member Jan 15, 2025 504 tokyo Liam Allen-Miller said: Well, I don't want to tell you what to do with your money, but maybe not having to buy every color Joy-Con isn't such a bad thing! :P Real talk I have to imagine future units will have different color schemes. When I was looking at the demo unit at my local Bic Camera I was thinking the same thing, that it was an odd choice. Click to expand... Click to shrink... but what if they make green ones? or red? I'll need purple ones and Yellow.. Real talk? What if they do a dpad one. PLEASE GOD.  Delaney Member Oct 25, 2017 3,947 Maybe the joycons this time around do something like the Chroma Dualsenses while keeping the blue-orange inside.   OP OP NookNinja Member Jan 15, 2025 504 tokyo Delaney said: Maybe the joycons this time around do something like the Chroma Dualsenses while keeping the blue-orange inside. Click to expand... Click to shrink... So every joycon 2 has to have some element of blue and red? so lame   Duffking Member Oct 27, 2017 6,799 They'll make pure blue/red ones and sell them to you for extra in 6 months.   Killyoh Member Oct 28, 2017 1,809 Paris, France   Windrunner Sly Member Oct 25, 2017 7,836 Calm down, it's not that serious.  

Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 38,006 With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process. Activision already has a bad reputation for the aggressive monetization of the premium Black Ops 6 and its free-to-play battle royale Warzone, but this latest move may have tipped some players over the edge. Following the launch of Season 4, adverts for weapon bundles can be seen in the build and weapon menus. These are unavoidable for players as they tinker with their loadouts. Elsewhere, Activision has added bundle and Battle Pass advertisements to the Events tab, another controversial change that has caused complaints. Here's a snippet of the response, sourced from across Call of Duty subreddits, Discords, and social media: I wouldn't even be mad if this was just in Warzone, a free game, but putting it in a pay-to-play premium title, with how expensive they're getting? F**k off. This game is still 80€ I get that they make most of their money from the store, but I feel like the bare minimum for a premium product would be to not have ads clogging the menus right? At this point it really feels like opening up a mobile game with how much more you see an option to buy anything in this game. Anyone who wanted this bundle would've checked the store and bought it. Putting it here isn't gonna make more people buy it, its justannoying. Just wait until they add pop up ads for bundles while you are playing the game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... More including some examples here: Activision Quietly Force Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts and Players Absolutely Hate It: 'At This Point It Really Feels Like Opening Up a Mobile Game' - IGN With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process. www.ign.com   Gaspode Member Jan 17, 2025 152 gross   MarcosBrXD Member Aug 28, 2024 1,779 Crazy one of the biggest IPs doing this   Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 28,182 Midwest What a shit franchise.   Shirkelton Member Aug 20, 2020 6,976 Fuck that.   MinerArcaniner Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Oct 29, 2017 7,473 The revenue line has to keep going up. There's no such thing as "enough" with corporations.   Kinthey Avenger Oct 27, 2017 25,551 Poor Cod really needs the money to keep the lights on   skullmuffins Member Oct 25, 2017 7,615 oh, ads for in-game microtransactions. guess i'm not surprised. that's where all the money is these days.   Remark Member Oct 27, 2017 4,184 Yeah the ads are so bad this season. When you boot up the game in CoD HQ, theres a big ass button for Blackcell and BO6 and WZ are all the way on the right side of the menu. It's so annoying. Huge disrespect to the people who actually bought the game. I wish CoD HQ would go away, it doesn't even actually help with anything and actually hampers the UX experience in a lot of ways especially on PC.  Last edited: Today at 10:14 AM LiquidDom Avenger Oct 27, 2017 2,730 Wait it's just ads for the in-game purchases? Not outside ads that have nothing to do with the game? I don't have that much of an issue with it, still shit though.  Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 26,147 North Carolina Lmao what a joke   Loxley Prophet of Truth Member Oct 25, 2017 10,702 We're inching closer and closer to this scene from Ready Player One. "We estimate we can sell up to 80% of an individual's visual field before inducing seizures" View: https://youtu.be/KpPE85Jogjw?si=Di0mlmiF27KidwWs  Fabs Member Aug 22, 2019 2,780 This doesn't seem that different than like Fortnite advertising the shop updates in the main menu. It's fairly harmless.   Noisepurge Corrupted by Vengeance Member Oct 25, 2017 9,775 Fabs said: This doesn't seem that different than like Fortnite advertising the shop updates in the main menu. It's fairly harmless. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fortnite doesn't cost 80$  OP OP Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 38,006 LiquidDom said: Wait it's just ads for the in-game purchases? Not outside ads that have nothing to do with the game? I don't have that much of an issue with it, still shit though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Considering half of the in-game purchases are basically ads for some brands or characters that have nothing to do with COD it's basically the same thing   Remark Member Oct 27, 2017 4,184 Noisepurge said: Fortnite doesn't cost 80$ Click to expand... Click to shrink... To be fair, Warzone is F2P but that shit should be in there. Whether you buy the game or not, you have to go through CoD HQ which is so annoying.   Doskoi Panda One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 17,314 CoD is so fucking trashy lmao. I will never understand how it remains so popular. It just gets worse year over yesr, even Warzone.   SunBroDave "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 15,148 How else is COD supposed to make money   Decarb Member Oct 27, 2017 9,264 Fabs said: This doesn't seem that different than like Fortnite advertising the shop updates in the main menu. It's fairly harmless. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not only is it in a full priced mode, but its also in the weapon customization menu where you least expect it.   Agni Kai Member Nov 2, 2017 10,037 Only Battlefield 6 can save us now. Hold the line, my friends. Hold the line.   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,177 Yeah I dont think it needs to be this aggressive. LiquidDom said: Wait it's just ads for the in-game purchases? Not outside ads that have nothing to do with the game? I don't have that much of an issue with it, still shit though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fabs said: This doesn't seem that different than like Fortnite advertising the shop updates in the main menu. It's fairly harmless. Click to expand... Click to shrink... While trying to play the game tho? "Following the launch of Season 4, adverts for weapon bundles can be seen in the build and weapon menus. These are unavoidable for players as they tinker with their loadouts." Imagine getting hit with Shark Card ads while browsing the in game stores in GTA Online....please Rockstar dont do this. Noisepurge said: Fortnite doesn't cost 80$ Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also this.  BradleyLove Member Oct 29, 2017 1,661 Doesn't surprise me. I bought Forza Horizon for PS5 a few days ago and was shocked to encounter unskippable ads for DLC. The American obsession with forcing ads everywhere they can is horrible. This reply was brought to you by NEW Mountain Dew—new look, same bold refreshing flavour.  TransEuropaExpress Member Dec 6, 2017 11,420 US They should go all in and start doing random 5-minute commercial breaks in the middle of rounds.   Pyro God help us the mods are making weekend threads Member Jul 30, 2018 18,922 United States Really fucking gross.   Vourlis Member Aug 14, 2022 5,911 United States I...where are the ads? edit: Oh like advertising the bundles or whatever. Okay.  jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,177 BradleyLove said: Doesn't surprise me. I bought Forza Horizon for PS5 a few days ago and was shocked to encounter unskippable ads for DLC. The American obsession with forcing ads everywhere they can is horrible. This reply was brought to you by NEW Mountain Dew—new look, same bold refreshing flavour. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I either forgot how it was or just didnt know, because I played it on XSX when it launched. But I was and am shocked at the mtx in FH5.  shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 41,804 I feel like this has already become too normalised because I honestly assumed we were talking about unrelated product ads... Meanwhile the examples above... honestly I kinda expected. Granted the article also points it out perfectly that if it were just in Warzone (free) it'd be... less bad, but charging however much for COD THEN pushing those ads on you... you just know people will crack. Not the worst example of ads in games though, I still give that to SFVI's Turtles costumes, aside the cost, having that damn song playing constantly in the battle hub for month(s) on end drove me nuts at the time.  Papaya The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,735 California The financial model for CoD is awful and lacks any sort of creativity. They just copied fortnite even though it doesn't work for a military shooter. They rarely release any good content because it either doesn't match the game's tone, or it sucks. It just doesn't lend itself well to skins, and other visual customization options. Or maybe they just don't know how to make good. Either way, I've never seen a more boring battlepass in my life. CoD can be a super fun action game, but it's never felt more hollow and lifeless. The best counter-example to "games are art" I've ever seen.  BestBrand Member Mar 5, 2025 457 Call of duty is the worst man. I may not even buy another COD again.   MerluzaSamus Member Dec 3, 2018 1,471 Argentina Agni Kai said: Only Battlefield 6 can save us now. Hold the line, my friends. Hold the line. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The game published by EA to gather obscene money on the fps market? That one Battlefield? Jokes aside, 'fraid this is going to be the norm long term, Fortnite normalized it and publishers with less restraint are going wild, same with AI. At least on the AAA market.  Lumination Member Oct 26, 2017 16,064 Who could have expected them giving the game away would have affected the revenue stream and business model of the game itself.   Geeko Member Oct 27, 2017 1,413 San Jose, CA Lame as hell. The problem is that the masses won't care about it and will still spend crap tons of money on this game thus continuing this constant bombardment of ads.   shadowman16 Member Oct 25, 2017 41,804 Agni Kai said: Only Battlefield 6 can save us now. Hold the line, my friends. Hold the line. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Gameplay wise, Hopefully Dice will take the time and make something truly special. However... I wouldnt expect much better from EA of all publishers. They are every bit as summy...  OP OP Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 38,006 My guess is this is only going to get worse as MS tries to make up the lost revenue from people playing via GP instead of buying   SP. Member Oct 27, 2017 8,578 I guess I thought it would be worse than the reaction seems to suggest… They're in-game micro transaction ads and for the most are for weapon skins which naturally don't seem that out of place in a weapon selection menu. It's not like they're advertising a Burger King Whopper in here. Obviously it'd be better if they weren't there at all but honestly if I played the game and saw these I wouldn't think it's anything out of the ordinary.  Ravelle Member Oct 31, 2017 20,432 Noisepurge said: Fortnite doesn't cost 80$ Click to expand... Click to shrink... It doesn't spam you with multiple windows to buy something either  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 51,386 Wallace said: What a shit franchise. Click to expand... Click to shrink... .   Kyokanto Member Mar 4, 2025 493 For a second I thought this was going to be McDonald's ads or something lol. I wonder how far off that is… Still scummy as is.  Pop-O-Matic Avenger Oct 25, 2017 14,007 MarcosBrXD said: Crazy one of the biggest IPs doing this Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not really. CoD might move more money than most of the rest of the industry put together, but capitalism (especially at publicly traded mega corps like MS and ActiBlizz before them) demands that the line must always be going up, and there isn't really much CoD can do to grow the player base in any significant way in the short-to-medium term, so they're going to start trying out shit like this to get even more money out of the existing players so the line goes up and the shareholders can be happy.   Fabs Member Aug 22, 2019 2,780 Noisepurge said: Fortnite doesn't cost 80$ Click to expand... Click to shrink... Decarb said: Not only is it in a full priced mode, but its also in the weapon customization menu where you least expect it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... jroc74 said: Yeah I dont think it needs to be this aggressive. While trying to play the game tho? "Following the launch of Season 4, adverts for weapon bundles can be seen in the build and weapon menus. These are unavoidable for players as they tinker with their loadouts." Imagine getting hit with Shark Card ads while browsing the in game stores in GTA Online....please Rockstar dont do this. Also this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Full priced games advertise their dlc in menus all the time. Is it because it's in a new place? Is this that different than having the paid operators in the menu for selection like they have in past CoD? Or when I play Street Fighter and I can't pick Akuma because he costs money? I get it if it was for McDonalds but this seems like rage bait.  Plexas Member Jan 24, 2025 289 Several trillion dollar company needs some money to survive, please understand.   Twister Member Feb 11, 2019 6,692 This franchise peaked with BO3. Everything after has been a disaster   Vertigo1 Member Jun 30, 2023 1,093 CoD will never be as good as it was in the 360 era, ever again.   Sordid Plebeian Member Oct 26, 2017 19,955 Yeah I remember seeing that AI store slop when I booted up S4, and they wonder why they're driving players away   Tommy Showbiz Member Jul 20, 2022 3,727 This is pretty corny, but I was honestly expecting ads for like Dr. Squatch and not just prodding you to buy in-game bundles.   Apathy Member Oct 25, 2017 13,538 So the biggest game, created by the biggest publisher, paced by the riches company in the world needs to slide ads into their paid games. Lovely   DarkJ Member Nov 11, 2017 1,918 Ai slop? Ads in the menus? In a fully priced game? Really just making sure I don't even look at the next game.  T88heon Member Aug 26, 2024 1,042 This is a profitability issue coupled with horrendous stewardship of the ip. If the retail side was profitable would they need to stealthily run ads in "COD" of all ip? 😬  DSync Member Oct 27, 2017 884 Black Ops 6 in 2025 after the most recent update for Season 4 > £70 for the base game > £100 for the "Vault Editon" > £50/60 for a year of PS Plus to play the game online > £10 for the Battlepass > £15 for the Battlepass plus tier skips > £25 for the "Blackcell" Battlepass > Free and Premium (Costs money) Battlepasses for the Seth Rogan Operator Weed event > £16-25 Weapon and Operator bundles > AI art in the emblems, calling cards, posters in certain levels > Ads for bundles in creating a Loadout > Server instability issues > Whole game crashes to desktop/homescreen when editing your loadout during a match > UI Menu lagging > Cheaters, hackers run rampant > Store will 100% work no matter what (Prices for everything may not be exact)  Pai Pai Master Member Oct 25, 2017 37,298 Atlanta GA AI crap and ads, yet people will still buy this shit in record numbers every year  

Meg Cherry Member Oct 25, 2017 7,847 Seattle, WA So, Panic - a studio out of Portland that mostly does Mac software - is going to release a custom handheld with a 'premium' black-and-white screen - with 12 games that will be kept a secret until they unlock after release (one a week). Also, one of the inputs is a hand crank. One of those games is the game you saw above: Crankin's Time Travel Adventure from Katamari Damacy designer Keita Takahashi. The crank is used to manipulate time forwards and backwards. Despite the presence of buttons, the only way to interact with Crankin' is with said crank. Not all games will work that way, obviously, but it's reasonable to expect many will make use of it. There are other games coming from Bennett Foddy (Getting Over It), Zach Gage (SpellTower), and Shaun Inman (The Last Rocket), among others. What exactly they're making for Playdate, however, remains unannounced, with more details later this year. Click to expand... Click to shrink... $150, pre-orders out this year. This thing looks absurd, but maybe in a way worth supporting.  Last edited: May 22, 2019 KoolAid Member Oct 25, 2017 7,055 Keita Takahashi? Bennett Foddy? I'm interested.   atomsk Member Oct 28, 2017 1,762 Panic worked with Keita on those Katamari t-shirts forever ago, so that's not too surprising. Still, I wish Wattam would get a release date already.  BocoDragon Banned Oct 26, 2017 5,207 I love the hardware design.   Deleted member 42 user requested account closure Banned Oct 24, 2017 16,939 CRANKIN' IT   marrec Banned Oct 26, 2017 6,775 I'm sooo in for wild shit like this with limited but specific use cases.   kikuchiyo Member Nov 9, 2017 1,103 atomsk said: Panic worked with Keita on those Katamari t-shirts forever ago, so that's not too surprising. Still, I wish Wattam would get a release date already. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Didn't get those shirts when they came out and I've been kicking myself for it ever since :(  JamboGT Vehicle Handling Designer Verified Oct 25, 2017 1,537 The most hipster of hipster gaming stuff I have ever seen.   Tiktaalik Member Oct 25, 2017 3,749 Looks like a lot of fun. There's an opportunity for these small little devices now that 3DS is going away. Come on Nintendo, make Game Boy Classic happen.  Deleted member 54469 User requested account closure Member Mar 4, 2019 320 design is cool but what exactly is the point? for it's niche community i'm not going to ask. forever everyone else kinda feel like this is one of those things (like everything else now) cashing in on nostalgia and basically gentrifying by giving it a new instagram worthy paint coat and new name. $150 for a black and white game boy with some weird gimmick? i'm cool lol. that's nice they found some great (also niche) developers to make great (also niche) games for it. just not sure why this exists though? especially for that absurd price? i mean you can get a 2ds bundle with a game and another free nintendo select for like $80 now.  eyeball_kid Member Oct 25, 2017 12,138 Panic, Takahashi (please why are you distracting him from finishing Wattam!), and Teenage Engineering (makers of the awesome OP-1 synth). This is like a videogame hipster dream come true. Not sure how well that crank is going to feel for left-handed users though.  Colloco Self-Requested Ban Banned Oct 27, 2017 403 florida 150 kind of hurts for a black and white screen device in 2019, but DAT CRANK THO   Ghos Member Oct 25, 2017 3,986 cute design Keita tho? 👀  Weltall Zero Game Developer Banned Oct 26, 2017 19,343 Madrid Kind of weird there's only going to be 12 games for it; visually simple B/W games should be relatively easy to crank out.   Lego Killer Moth Avenger Oct 25, 2017 1,292 This is the coolest thing I've ever seen   Toumari Member Oct 27, 2017 8,811 England Cute and bizarre. Never expected Panic to ever dabble in hardware like this.   Deleted member 41931 User requested account closure Member Apr 10, 2018 3,744 I'm in for Keita Takahashi. No idea if this is going to be good, but it'll certainly be different.   marrec Banned Oct 26, 2017 6,775 JamboGT said: The most hipster of hipster gaming stuff I have ever seen. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's like they made it specifically for me  CloseTalker Sister in the Craft Member Oct 25, 2017 38,131 Yeah, I'll buy one of those   Colloco Self-Requested Ban Banned Oct 27, 2017 403 florida Is this secretly Soulja Bois new console?   corn_fest Member Oct 27, 2017 323 I can't help but compare this with the 32blit which recently sprung up on Kickstarter. Spec-wise, the console seems a little disappointing in comparison, but Panic, Teenage Engineering, and the developers they've partnered with all create great stuff so I feel like this will be cool regardless. Ugh I'm gonna end up getting both aren't I.  Lego Killer Moth Avenger Oct 25, 2017 1,292 Weltall Zero said: Kind of weird there's only going to be 12 games for it; visually simple B/W games should be relatively easy to crank out. Click to expand... Click to shrink... There's gonna be more if it's a success. It's 12 so far. One a month for the first year.   KoolAid Member Oct 25, 2017 7,055 Weltall Zero said: Kind of weird there's only going to be 12 games for it; visually simple B/W games should be relatively easy to crank out. Click to expand... Click to shrink... ...i see what you did there also they say there's potential for more games, unsure if they'll charge for them though  Deleted member 33571 User requested account closure Banned Nov 17, 2017 907 very very cool, the lil bit of the Keita Takahashi game they showed looked really neat I immediately got teenage engineering vibes between the price (eek) and the concept so it makes sense they worked on some of the hardware  Kirksplosion Member Aug 21, 2018 2,682 Eh, can't say I'm interested at all-- Keita Takahashi Click to expand... Click to shrink... So I make this check out to Panic in Portland, OR?  Ginger Hail One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 3,358 It's a cute little thing. Definitely gonna keep my eye on it.   jml Member Mar 9, 2018 4,849 Seems ridiculous and I do not understand the appeal at that price at all   Conan Member Oct 25, 2017 707 It's like having a bad analog stick. Cool?   Jonnykong Member Oct 27, 2017 8,992 It looks pretty nifty when you see the game in action by spinning that delightful crank.   marrec Banned Oct 26, 2017 6,775 jml said: Seems ridiculous and I do not understand the appeal at that price at all Click to expand... Click to shrink... The appeal is in the design and the games.  makonero Member Oct 27, 2017 11,177 If it was $50 I could see myself grabbing it for novelty purposes But I can't justify $150 for a black and white handheld with no backlight. I had an original GBA for five years, not going back now  Vivian-Pogo Member Jan 9, 2018 2,142 It's neat but about 3x the price of what I would want to pay for it.   wideface ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 25, 2017 7,184 Hidamari Apartments Keita Takahashi? Okay, I'll buy it.   NickatNite Member Oct 27, 2017 6,217 California An interesting concept, but may or may not be worth the price point. I definitely will keep my eye on it.   Deleted member 23046 Account closed at user request Banned Oct 28, 2017 6,876 Panic is also the first publisher of Campo Santo's Firewatch.   Dancrane212 Member Oct 25, 2017 14,110 Edge cover gets it a good amount of cred with me. Consider me curious.  JamesQuall Member Oct 27, 2017 752 I'm in. I already love Panic for publishing Firewatch and the Goose Game, and for putting a cool sign on their building that I can change the colors on during my lunch break!   RyougaSaotome Member Oct 25, 2017 5,365 It seems absurd so I'm in.   eyeball_kid Member Oct 25, 2017 12,138 Here's a peek at Keita Takahashi's game:   ryushe Member Oct 27, 2017 5,063 If this were black and white WITH backlight, then I'd be on board. But as it stands, I can't justify $150 for this no matter how hard I'd like to try.   Anno Member Oct 25, 2017 7,889 Columbus, Ohio That's weird enough that I'm at least interested.   the_wart Member Oct 25, 2017 2,346 That's so dumb. ...I want it.  KilgoreTrout696 Member Oct 25, 2017 667 ryushe said: If this were black and white WITH backlight, then I'd be on board. But as it stands, I can't justify $150 for this no matter how hard I'd like to try. Click to expand... Click to shrink... 100% with you on the backlight. I'm looking into getting older gameboys modded with backlights not getting something new without them. Just flashing back to trying to play pokemon at night while in the car driving home, would have to wait to pass a streetlight in order to see the screen for a second.   boontobias Avenger Apr 14, 2018 10,144 Dancrane212 said: Edge cover gets it a good amount of cred with me. Consider me curious. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Rebels huh? There goes my interest  8bit Member Oct 27, 2017 5,390 Oh fuck yes, I want one.   pronk Member Oct 26, 2017 2,034 Swery retweeted this, then retweeted a tweet about the Ouya store closing lol Also pretty sure EDGE had an Ouya cover.  Deleted member 2791 User requested account closure Banned Oct 25, 2017 19,054 I like the idea and the hardware execution, but 150 bucks for twelve short games just doesn't cut it.   Brian_FETO The Million Post Man Member Oct 25, 2017 19,825 I think I love this? idk $150 is an investment but like......it's also not that bad? hmm The curious thing is whether future seasons would be downloadable (it does have wifi) or if the intent is to have limited run systems with preset seasons  RoboitoAM Member Oct 25, 2017 3,271 This thing looks stupid.   El Pescado Member Oct 26, 2017 2,042 That thing looks right up my alley. I'm 100% in.  

amara Member Nov 23, 2021 5,532 “If we don’t make new IPs, we’ll die,” Nippon Ichi Software believes mid-size developers need to do what the big guns can’t - AUTOMATON WEST Nippon Ichi Software’s new CEO Kenzo Saruhashi and Yomawari series creator Yu Mizokami talk about the company’s policy when it comes to making new IPs. automaton-media.com Disgaea series developer Nippon Ichi Software (NIS) held a live program in March during which it announced six new titles slated for launch in 2025 and 2026. Except for Fuuraiki 5 – the latest entry in the Fuuraiki travel game series – all of the announced projects were brand-new IPs, which NIS fans were happy to see. In a recent interview with Famitsu, Nippon Ichi Software's new CEO Kenzo Saruhashi and Yomawari series creator Yu Mizokami talked about the company's policy when it comes to making new IPs amidst the rising costs of development and risk of failure. From a business perspective, Saruhashi notes, making a sequel is the easier option for game companies, as you can predict sales and profit margins more reliably. "But in our case, we're more driven by whether our fans want a sequel or. If there's demand for, we'll make it." On the other hand, making new IPs seems like a non-negotiable for NIS, as Saruhashi comments, "On the flip side, if we were to stop taking on new challenges, we would be like a fish out of water – I think we'd die." Although it may sound dramatic, there is a sound strategy behind this – Saruhashi explains that with NIS being a mid-size company, its survival depends on daring to do the things big companies can't risk trying. This approach has worked for them too, as projects like Yomawari (which director Mizokami describes as "a big risk") found their audiences and turned out successful. That said, NIS isn't managing to miraculously avoid the issue of rising development costs – in the face of financial constraints, the company is limiting budgets for its more experimental titles and relying on its devs to come up with creative workarounds. Interestingly, Mizokami comments that even if she were suddenly given a multi-million budget to work with, she'd "probably get bored halfway through," preferring the thrill of problem-solving that comes with working on a tight budget. In contrast to triple-A game development, Saruhashi and Mizokami refer to NIS's approach as "speedrun/real-time attck-style game development." Click to expand... Click to shrink...   RGB Member Nov 13, 2017 814 On the one hand, I applaud the sentiment. But on the other. I just want a good Disgaea from them if they can build upon the rocky start moving to 3D.   Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,779 Niikawa used to talk like that, so the company's in good hands at least. Just wonder what happened to their localizations. They completely stopped last year except PB2.  t26 Avenger Oct 27, 2017 5,380 Will the new CEO consider localizing their VNs?   robotnikus Member Oct 24, 2023 693 t26 said: Will the new CEO consider localizing their VNs? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Hope so.   Theswweet RPG Site Verified Oct 25, 2017 7,293 California Desma said: Niikawa used to talk like that, so the company's in good hands at least. Just wonder what happened to their localizations. They completely stopped last year except PB2. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Last I heard NISA's localization teams are now focused around their Falcom releases for the most part.  Desma "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 6,779 Theswweet said: Last I heard NISA's localization teams are now focused around their Falcom releases for the most part. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, no doubt they put everybody on Trails to catch up   Theswweet RPG Site Verified Oct 25, 2017 7,293 California Desma said: Yeah, no doubt they put everybody on Trails to catch up Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean, I know no less than 4 people who worked at Geofront that are currently salaried NISA employees, if I recall correctly.  Shard Shinjuku Member Oct 25, 2017 31,607 Tampa There is a certain irony here given NIS needs to rely on Disgaea to survive.   Last edited: Today at 12:58 AM Pyro God help us the mods are making weekend threads Member Jul 30, 2018 18,913 United States It is a shame that most new ideas have come from small indies to mid-tier games for... a long ass time now. Over a decade? Even with new IPs made in the PS4 generation, I struggle to think of many that are breaking new ground or just original to the point of feeling that way (e.g. Death Stranding).   Ckoerner Member Aug 7, 2019 979 RGB said: On the one hand, I applaud the sentiment. But on the other. I just want a good Disgaea from them if they can build upon the rocky start moving to 3D. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Seven was good. Worth playing IMHO.   CladInShadows Member May 2, 2024 301 I really hope they make another Labyrinth game   RGB Member Nov 13, 2017 814 Ckoerner said: Seven was good. Worth playing IMHO. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Definitely better than six, but it's not the most positive thing that I can't remember if I even finished the story. Ultimately even if I thought it was potentially cool on paper the automation stuff wasn't for me, especially in the post game. In six, at least, maybe it works better in seven? For reference my personal high bar for post game would be five or four depending on the day you asked.  Liam Allen-Miller Member Nov 2, 2017 8,023 Shibuya It's frustrating that NIS has legit taken so many stabs at new IPs but hardly anything has landed at all.   Chev Member Mar 1, 2021 848 Shard Shinjuku said: There is a certain irony here given NIS needs to rely on Disgaea to survive. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, but they do try new IPs all the time too.   Strings Member Oct 27, 2017 34,620 Liam Allen-Miller said: It's frustrating that NIS has legit taken so many stabs at new IPs but hardly anything has landed at all. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Iunno, it's hard to be positive about the games even if they're new IP. Bar Stella Abyss, Monster Menu, Poison Control, etc are all just kinda ass.   Liam Allen-Miller Member Nov 2, 2017 8,023 Shibuya Strings said: Iunno, it's hard to be positive about the games even if they're new IP. Bar Stella Abyss, Monster Menu, Poison Control, etc are all just kinda ass. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Certainly! My frustration is on both sides of the equation (consumers letting down the great stuff, the poorer stuff letting down themselves). Like they actually go to the effort to make lots of new stuff and for one reason or another very few make it. :(   Rum&coke Member May 19, 2025 97 Is Labyrinth of Refrain the last good new IP NIS made?   hyjonx Member Nov 27, 2022 328 they (NISA) didnt even localize stella abyss i thought it looked decent everything else yeah just kind of mediocre 

Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,943 In an interview with GamesMarkt, Omega Forcedirector and producer Tomohiko Sho – who produced this year's Dynasty Warriors: Origins – was asked how successful the series is in the West, given that most of the Steam user reviews for the game are written in Chinese. Sho replied that, in his view, Dynasty Warriors is not yet a successful series in the West, but that it's possible for this to change in the future. "I believe that the 'Dynasty Warriors' series is not yet in a position to be called a success in the West," Sho said. "On the contrary, I believe that there is a great potential for the series to gain many fans in the future. "With our latest title, Dynasty Warriors: Origins, we were able to attract new fans in addition to those we have had since the PlayStation 2 era. The Western market is very important, and I believe that if there is a next title, we will gain even more new fans." Click to expand... Click to shrink... Dynasty Warriors producer says the series still can’t be called a success in the West | VGC The latest game, Dynasty Warriors: Origins, has sold more than 1 million copies worldwide… www.videogameschronicle.com Origins was the first game in the series i played and i absolutely loved it so i hope it can continue to grow in the west.  --R Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,658 Origins is a must play for everyone that likes action games. A masterpiece from beginning to end.   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 133,345 I think he's being modest more than anything else. This is less "the series is a failure" and more "I think we can do even better".   Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,882 Spain I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here.  Dekuman Member Oct 27, 2017 21,144 Glio said: I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... it's why spin offs of the formula like Hyrule Warriors do considerably better.   Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 26,133 North Carolina Glio said: I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Unfortunately this. Obviously it did really well on Steam and what not but there's a reason Hyrule Warrios can do so damn well on a single platform. It's the setting.   fiendcode Member Oct 26, 2017 26,412 We saw this from the CCUs tbh, overwhelmingly tilted towards Asia.   LAA One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 3,264 Origins I haven't tried, more tempted seeing impressions here, but I read Steph Sterling's review on it and they weren't happy with realism essentially removing personality from it. I think the other thing that puts me off is they just seem very heavy handed with DLC too, and seemingly for pretty basic things, I want as complete of a game as possible. Really I'm kinda surprised they haven't done more collabs with more IPs. I think Hyrule Warriors was really the first I truly played and loved. Other collabs since I've enjoyed too like P5 Strikers. Berserker was fine. AOT I enjoyed too and that's actually very different from the others. I'd love a KH Musou eventually.. so many characters and abilities they could use, and enemies are pretty simplistically designed, and there's already been moments where you had to kill 1000+ Heartless, seems a perfect fit, ha.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 133,345 Dekuman said: it's why spin offs of the formula like Hyrule Warriors do considerably better. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Do they really do that much better?  OP OP Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,943 Glio said: I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You're probably right but for me the three kingdoms setting made it even more interesting. Don't think a medieval europe or a more western fantasy approach would catch me in the same way.  Disco Stu Member Oct 27, 2017 2,557 Glio said: I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Totally agree and this is coming from someone seeks out other Three Kingdoms content because of KOEI. Someone the other day mentioned using the engine for an Avengers or Superman style game. I could see that catching on if done right.  Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,882 Spain PlanetSmasher said: Do they really do that much better? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not all of them, but some, yes. Age of Calamity is the best selling musou at 4M.  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 51,357 I want Origins but still too pricey unfortunately. I love Samurai Warriors, Pirate Warriors, Persona 5 Strikers...   TheAggroCraig This guy are sick of the One Winged Slayer Member Nov 6, 2017 7,354 I'll show up for the franchise again when they bring back Dynasty Warriors Gundam   Dekuman Member Oct 27, 2017 21,144 PlanetSmasher said: Do they really do that much better? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Here's what i can find from the Nintendo million seller list Hyrule Warriors - Age of Calamity 4+ million units as of March 2021  MetalKhaos Member Oct 31, 2017 2,228 PlanetSmasher said: I think he's being modest more than anything else. This is less "the series is a failure" and more "I think we can do even better". Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's my take. Origins was first DW game I enjoyed in a really long time. Solid entry, and I feel a game like this is made all the better with this current gen due to how incredibly fast the loading times are.  SlasherMcGirk Member Oct 27, 2017 4,429 Cincinnati Glio said: I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's not even that I think its the fact that they have done the same setting and characters 20 times over. It's an interesting period and story with great characters but you can only add and stretch the same story so many times without diminishing returns.   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 133,345 SlasherMcGirk said: It's not even that I think its the fact that they have done the same setting and characters 20 times over. It's an interesting period and story with great characters but you can only add and stretch the same story so many times without diminishing returns. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think the other problem is there aren't that many periods of time across history that can support this kind of game structure with such a heavy emphasis on specific heroes. Like, they tried Troy once and it didn't really catch on, nor did Bladestorm. For better and for worse, the Three Kingdoms and Sengoku eras are kind of the time periods that have A) a level of ubiquity in Asia that makes East Asian players interested in them and B) an emphasis on character substantial enough to support the Musou gameplay format. By comparison, I don't think a Musou game based on (for example) the American Revolution would sell particularly well outside of the US, and that war was A) not that long and B) took place in an era where firearms had largely supplanted melee combat so the movesets would wind up feeling very samey.  Ltn_Esteves Member Feb 4, 2021 213 Dekuman said: Here's what i can find from the Nintendo million seller list Hyrule Warriors - Age of Calamity 4+ million units as of March 2021 Click to expand... Click to shrink... And I think that is without japan sales, since Nintendo is only the publisher in the west   Astral Member Oct 27, 2017 33,463 TheAggroCraig said: I'll show up for the franchise again when they bring back Dynasty Warriors Gundam Click to expand... Click to shrink... Man I would love this. Did they stop for licensing reasons or something? Origins was amazing and I can't wait for what's next.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 133,345 Astral said: Man I would love this. Did they stop for licensing reasons or something? Origins was amazing and I can't wait for what's next. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They stopped because the third game sold almost no copies. People got sick of the concept after the second game.  Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,882 Spain PlanetSmasher said: I think the other problem is there aren't that many periods of time across history that can support this kind of game structure with such a heavy emphasis on specific heroes. Like, they tried Troy once and it didn't really catch on, nor did Bladestorm. For better and for worse, the Three Kingdoms and Sengoku eras are kind of the time periods that have A) a level of ubiquity in Asia that makes East Asian players interested in them and B) an emphasis on character substantial enough to support the Musou gameplay format. By comparison, I don't think a Musou game based on (for example) the American Revolution would sell particularly well outside of the US, and that war was A) not that long and B) took place in an era where firearms had largely supplanted melee combat so the movesets would wind up feeling very samey. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It doesn't really need to be historical. There are One Piece, Zelda, Dragon Quest, Gundam... They could do something sci-fi or fantasy with their own setting and characters if they want. But, hey, if they like three kingdoms, they don't need to change it, but it's going to be very hard to grow in the West.   Dreamboum Member Oct 28, 2017 23,942 How are they gonna find an audience in the west when the game is 80 *euros* on all platforms? Their biggest discount is 64 euros. Come on man  MarvelousIntent Member Aug 13, 2019 3,936 LAA said: Origins I haven't tried, more tempted seeing impressions here, but I read Steph Sterling's review on it and they weren't happy with realism essentially removing personality from it. I think the other thing that puts me off is they just seem very heavy handed with DLC too, and seemingly for pretty basic things, I want as complete of a game as possible. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'd recommend watching some gameplay to see how you feel about it. I understand Steph's gripes with Origins, but it is legitimately the best game in the series and it isn't even close. Like, the combat is actually good. Enemy officers actually put up a fight. Lu Bu is an actual boss fight and hard as hell to beat. Origins three greatest faults are where it chooses to end, the silent protagonist you can't customize, and that there are only like 9 weapons. The weapons issue also isn't that bad because each weapon has functions different and has plenty of abilities to choose from. It feels fantastic to play and blows every other game out of the water. Also, as far as I'm aware, Origins doesn't really have DLC. It had some pre-order bonuses, but thats it. As it is, the game is complete.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 133,345 Glio said: It doesn't really need to be historical. There are One Piece, Zelda, Dragon Quest, Gundam... They could do something sci-fi or fantasy with their own setting and characters if they want. But, hey, if they like three kingdoms, they don't need to change it, but it's going to be very hard to grow in the West. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't think a bunch of anime Musou spinoffs are going to grow the franchise in the West. They've been doing anime spinoffs for 20 years and they just sell to people who are already Musou fans who happen to like that particular anime. It's a concept that only works on fanbase overlap. And I don't think an original setting is going to interest people who aren't already fans either.  General Tso Member Jan 10, 2018 540 Dynasty Warriors Origins was an excellent refresh, and I hope they continue to build off it (like they did DW2 through DW5), because the fundamentals are all there.   DontHateTheBacon Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 27, 2017 14,618 It was my first Dynasty Warriors game and I had a complete blast with it. I'm in if this is what they'll be like going forward. I hope the dust settles well for it in the west.   Dale Copper Member Apr 12, 2018 24,363 Glio said: Not all of them, but some, yes. Age of Calamity is the best selling musou at 4M. Click to expand... Click to shrink... One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is also at 4 million sales. Spinoffs are more popular if they push them.  thewienke Member Oct 25, 2017 19,345 "If there is a next game" I hope they're being deliberately evasive there considering Origins ends half way through the story Although I do think the story is more interesting before the Three Kingdoms are established since there are more players and more going on  Pyro God help us the mods are making weekend threads Member Jul 30, 2018 18,900 United States Glio said: I honestly think what limits the franchise most in the West today is the setting of Three Kingdoms, not the gameplay. It's a fascinating historical period, but I don't think it'll be very popular here. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is definitely part of it. I'm more into Samurai Warriors because the setting is more interesting to me.  LiquidDom Avenger Oct 27, 2017 2,729 I bought Origins on day one but have so much else on my plate. I'd like to get to it soon, might be a good palette cleanser after Death Stranding 2   OP OP Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,943 Dreamboum said: How are they gonna find an audience in the west when the game is 80 *euros* on all platforms? Their biggest discount is 64 euros. Come on man Click to expand... Click to shrink... I bought a key for like 43€ a few months ago so you can definitely get it cheaper if you're looking for it.   Kyrios Member Oct 27, 2017 19,152 --R said: Origins is a must play for everyone that likes action games. A masterpiece from beginning to end. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yup, still a frontrunner for my personal GOTY.  OP OP Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,943 Only thing i wished they would improve on really would be that the MC has more of a personality   DyCy Member Oct 25, 2017 587 I loved Origins as my first real DW (I played the first Hyrule Warriors) but as interesting as it was for a first timer I do wonder how much I'd want to revisit the Three Kingdoms story over and over again in sequels so I do think the setting is limiting the potential of the franchise. Would love a spin off based on Star Wars, Marvel or Final Fantasy though.  Astral Member Oct 27, 2017 33,463 PlanetSmasher said: They stopped because the third game sold almost no copies. People got sick of the concept after the second game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Aw damn. I honestly didn't even know there was a third one. I think they have the potential of making a really good one with the current formula.   Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,882 Spain PlanetSmasher said: I don't think a bunch of anime Musou spinoffs are going to grow the franchise in the West. They've been doing anime spinoffs for 20 years and they just sell to people who are already Musou fans who happen to like that particular anime. It's a concept that only works on fanbase overlap. And I don't think an original setting is going to interest people who aren't already fans either. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm going to be cynical because it's an idea that doesn't appeal to me personally, but I'm pretty sure if they made a dark fantasy setting with fallen knights, ruined kingdoms and cursed battlefields; and marketed it as "the Dark Souls of musou," it would sell. And I feel almost dirty just proposing it.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 133,345 Glio said: I'm going to be cynical because it's an idea that doesn't appeal to me personally, but I'm pretty sure if they made a dark fantasy setting with fallen knights, ruined kingdoms and cursed battlefields; and marketed it as "the Dark Souls of musou," it would sell. And I feel almost dirty just proposing it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't...really think it would work? Like the entire fantasy of Musou is "being an unstoppable killing machine", trying to focus it around super-hardcore grimdark difficulty would kind of defeat the purpose of it being Musou at all. Dark fantasy doesn't just succeed by default, and I don't think audiences would be tricked by that either. The Berserk musou flopped catastrophically badly.  MaxAugust Member Jan 28, 2018 3,573 thewienke said: "If there is a next game" I hope they're being deliberately evasive there considering Origins ends half way through the story Although I do think the story is more interesting before the Three Kingdoms are established since there are more players and more going on Click to expand... Click to shrink... The secret is everyone throughout time has felt that the pre-Three Kingdoms phase of the Three Kingdoms is the interesting part. Pretty much every adaptation stalls out a bit after things solidify. Hard to make the decades long stalemate and then abrupt anticlimactic (although poetic in an "everyone fails" way) denouement satisfying as a conventional narrative.  

GodGraviel Member May 29, 2024 222 luca Member Oct 25, 2017 19,484 That's funny. I just purchased the entire series to have them on physical media. I've only beat the first 3 back when they first came out, but I'm gonna do the next three including Double Agent - the OG Xbox version - next. I'll be over the moon if they announce a new game. And I think I'll be interested in a Splinter Cell 1 remake (since it's the one that's a bit rough), but would prefer a sequel.  Last edited: Today at 8:54 AM charlieonhere Member Jul 11, 2018 99 That's a very Splinter Cell 1 looking Sam Fisher   Kadzork Has got mad skills!! Member Oct 27, 2017 24,279 Crossing all possible apendages.   Yerffej Prophet of Regret Member Oct 25, 2017 29,516 They better gimme it. I've been waiting. They know I've been waiting. Give me it. Also that is PS2 ass cutscene loookin Sam.  Sargerus ▲ Legend ▲ The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 22,507 Remake/Remaster incoming.   Heliex Member Nov 2, 2017 3,568 Is this one of those remake remasters I keep hearing about   SofNascimento cursed Member Oct 28, 2017 24,948 São Paulo - Brazil Give me my Blacklist remaster!   Uzzy Gabe’s little helper Member Oct 25, 2017 34,567 Hull, UK Sam Fisher is back, in Fortnite form!   vestan #REFANTAZIO SWEEP Member Dec 28, 2017 27,635 If it's a game and not just some social media post then it's the Blacklist remaster. Apparantly the remake of the original being developed by Ubisoft Toronto isn't in great shape right now so I expect this to keep people placated until that's ready to be shown.   Apathy Member Oct 25, 2017 13,534 Dude, its been a hot minute since I played some splinter cell. I'd be down   HellofaMouse Member Oct 27, 2017 8,461 if its a remaster collection, ill take it. if its just the remaster of 1, ill still take it but wont be happy, lol  2CL4Mars Member Nov 9, 2018 2,577 Damn man just give us a remaster of the OG games. I'm happy that Ubi announced a SC 1 remake but a new game in the series would be preferable, hell I take a reboot.  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 28,284 One of these days. I believe.   XR. Member Nov 22, 2018 7,706 Netflix Anime incoming   Oddhouse Member Oct 31, 2017 1,178 Not sure I'm a fan of that art style. Will reserve judgement until full reveal.  Vico Member Jan 3, 2018 8,223 vestan said: If it's a game and not just some social media post then it's the Blacklist remaster. Apparantly the remake of the original being developed by Ubisoft Toronto isn't in great shape right now so I expect this to keep people placated until that's ready to be shown. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What? I thought for sure we were close.  Kinthey Avenger Oct 27, 2017 25,536 2CL4Mars said: Damn man just give us a remaster of the OG games. I'm happy that Ubi announced a SC 1 remake but a new game in the series would be preferable, hell I take a reboot. Click to expand... Click to shrink... With them using an image from the original I hope it means a remaster is coming. I feel like with the originals being easily avaible it would also give them more space to go new directions with the remake  Bony Manifesto Member Oct 27, 2017 4,410 That guy certainly looks like he chews Airwaves gum.   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 28,284 Oddhouse said: Not sure I'm a fan of that art style. Will reserve judgement until full reveal. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What artstyle? That's a screenshot of the original 2002 Splinter Cell.   Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 28,115 I mean timing makes sense if it's out in 2026.   Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 28,115 2CL4Mars said: Damn man just give us a remaster of the OG games. I'm happy that Ubi announced a SC 1 remake but a new game in the series would be preferable, hell I take a reboot. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We all better buy this remake to show that we want all that lol   Turnabout Sisters The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,728 I really thought that was fortnite   Mobius and Pet Octopus Member Oct 25, 2017 16,916 For some reason, stealth gameplay for splinter cell clicked for me and I'm not that into stealth gameplay. But I never really got that into the series though a couple were fun.   Last_colossi The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 4,656 Australia It won't be anything meaningful, just a skin or something in one of their live service games or someone elses. Even if it was a remake or remaster of the original 3, I have absolutely zero confidence Ubisoft would do them justice. They would most likely have just outsourced them to the cheapest bidder.  Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 28,115 vestan said: If it's a game and not just some social media post then it's the Blacklist remaster. Apparantly the remake of the original being developed by Ubisoft Toronto isn't in great shape right now so I expect this to keep people placated until that's ready to be shown. Click to expand... Click to shrink... According to who? Last_colossi said: It won't be anything meaningful, just a skin or something in one of their live service games or someone elses. Even if it was a remake or remaster of the original 3, I have absolutely zero confidence Ubisoft will do them justice. They would most likely have just outsourced them to the cheapest bidder. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We already know officially they're making a remake of 1.   DinkyDev The Movie Critic Member Feb 5, 2021 9,379 Is that image AI-generated? Looks like it.   ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 5,067 Midgar I'm a huge MGS fan and have never played this lol Is it time?  Oddhouse Member Oct 31, 2017 1,178 Patitoloco said: What artstyle? That's a screenshot of the original 2002 Splinter Cell. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Did not know this! That's a relief !  Derbel McDillet ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 23, 2022 24,656 Cryptic?   Ld007 Member Jun 1, 2024 7,535 4 polygon models are back   Kalentan Member Oct 25, 2017 50,741 DinkyDev said: Is that image AI-generated? Looks like it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Is it not just from the first games cutscenes?  2CL4Mars Member Nov 9, 2018 2,577 Mr Evil 37 said: We all better buy this remake to show that we want all that lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... For sure, I never actually played the OG trilogy so I would love to have a collection of the first three so that I can experience them. For some reason the last few weeks I have been craving to play a new Splinter Cell, the gameplay is unlike any other stealth game and Sam Fisher and his tool set is to damn cool. What a franchise, to bad Ubisoft has abandoned it in the last decade and hopefully that will change next week.  Last_colossi The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 4,656 Australia Mr Evil 37 said: We already know officially they're making a remake of 1. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They've also been working on Beyond Good & Evil 2 for 17 years.  Wallace Member Oct 25, 2017 28,162 Midwest Shadow drop sam time.   SuperOctopus Member Apr 22, 2020 3,606 Is Ubi still doing a non-E3 conference with a Just Dance segment this year?   DinkyDev The Movie Critic Member Feb 5, 2021 9,379 Kalentan said: Is it not just from the first games cutscenes? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maybe, I don't know.  Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 28,115 Last_colossi said: They've also been working on Beyond Good & Evil 2 for 17 years. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm just saying it's not a rumoured or speculated project. It was officially announced three and a half years ago. If it's a 2026 game, 4-5 years is plenty for a remake.   Last_colossi The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 4,656 Australia Mr Evil 37 said: I'm just saying it's not a rumoured or speculated project. It was officially announced three and a half years ago. If it's a 2026 game, 4-5 years is plenty for a remake. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You would think so, but this is ubisoft we're talking about. If it really is far along in development at this point then hopefully they at least show a trailer or some footage during SGF. But again I still have zero hopes or expectations from anything that ubisoft puts out anymore.  Convasse Member Oct 26, 2017 4,270 Atlanta, GA, USA I've been waiting for 84 years, Ubisoft.   Dukie85 Chicken Chaser Member Oct 25, 2017 3,151 I don't care which/what game it is in the series, I just want one.   Siresly Prophet of Regret Member Oct 27, 2017 7,478 Damn it Fisher, I'm pulling you in!   SolidSnakex Member Oct 25, 2017 28,141 DinkyDev said: Is that image AI-generated? Looks like it. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's just a cutscene from Pandora Tomorrow View: https://youtu.be/TkwCjCJpFm4?t=145  Last edited: 51 minutes ago Mr Evil 37 Member Mar 7, 2022 28,115 Last_colossi said: You would think so, but this is ubisoft we're talking about. If it really is far along in development at this point then hopefully they at least show a trailer or some footage during SGF. But again I still have zero hopes or expectations from anything that ubisoft puts out anymore. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If EA can remake Dead Space in less than 3 years, Ubisoft can remake Splinter Cell in 5 years lol   Level 7 Boss Member Jun 19, 2018 1,025 And Splinter Cell fans, we haven't forgotten about you, we have some exciting news. Sam Fisher is back! As a new skin in Fortnite launching in Q4.   Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,856 Gonna be honest I kinda forgot the IP existed and I was quite a fan at one time   Healthy_Gamer Member Jan 18, 2023 406 It's finally happening (hopefully)   Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,844 Melbourne, Australia Sam Fisher DLC for Asscreed Shadows Calling it  MarcelloF "This guy are sick" Member Dec 9, 2020 9,579 Last_colossi said: You would think so, but this is ubisoft we're talking about. If it really is far along in development at this point then hopefully they at least show a trailer or some footage during SGF. But again I still have zero hopes or expectations from anything that ubisoft puts out anymore. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They just put out Assassin's Creed Shadows and it was great.   LAA One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 3,264 Feels like they've teased it a bunch of times, and it's really just been a collab or something. I'm not sure this is just a screenshot from an older game either, but could be indicative of an announcement sure, I did enjoy the first 3 games, so would be interested in even just remakes/remasters of them. 

MegaSackman Member Oct 27, 2017 20,786 Argentina I've noticed many streams where all the lumina and overall builds went towards three members, or even just one and the rest were support. I've personally kept everything at the same lvl at all times, same lumina distribuition, same effort on builds (except for the last super boss that I "cheesed" with Maelle). When one or two characters got underleveled they were brought to the main team until they catched up. How did you play it?  Son of Sparda "This guy are sick" says The Wise Ones Member Oct 25, 2017 17,334 Tried to balance them as much as I could for the majority of the game. But in the end Maelle got most of the stuff since she is pretty OP. I think Verso got the least amount of stuff in the end tho. Just didn't really use them that much.  SimplePorter1 Member Dec 3, 2024 115 Currently in act 3 and pausing the main story to go around the map and side-quest as much as possible since for once in a game side questing does not feel like a chore. I have three members that are my main lineup but I keep everyone as balanced as possible, many times I won battles thanks to my reserve duo  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 28,279 Everything extremely balanced. Using the entire party worked wonders for many fights.   Agent Icebeezy Member Oct 27, 2017 2,898 MegaSackman said: I've noticed many streams where all the lumina and overall builds went towards three members, or even just one and the rest were support. I've personally kept everything at the same lvl at all times, same lumina distribuition, same effort on builds (except for the last super boss that I "cheesed" with Maelle). When one or two characters got underleveled they were brought to the main team until they catched up. How did you play it? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm currently still playing and my distribution is the same to yours. I've started to look at builds for beating some of the overpowered enemies in the game. My starting three is Verso, Sciel and Lune. Monoco and Maelle if they die. I have Maelle on the second team, even though she's currently the second strongest person I have, for balance.   Khanimus Avenger Oct 25, 2017 46,600 Greater Vancouver I just got my last party member. I already hadn't been using Sciel very much and now that I've got this new person, I'm wondering how I should mix it up.   Ravelle Member Oct 31, 2017 20,414 everyone leveled and specced because dugout gang came in clutch and saved my bacon multiple times.   Bran Member Oct 25, 2017 562 Leveling was an even split between Agility and Vitality until both got to 99. At that point, Recoat then dump into the stats for everyone's best weapons. Lumina points were distributed evenly among each character. It was super useful having everyone set up to fight because some characters work better for certain situations.  EduBRK Member Oct 30, 2017 999 Brazil Main party was Verso, Maelle and Monoco, but everyone was equal leveled. Stats: Agility up till 99, then luck 99, then might. All luminas distributed equally.  Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 124,379 Khanimus said: I just got my last party member. I already hadn't been using Sciel very much and now that I've got this new person, I'm wondering how I should mix it up. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Don't sleep on Sciel  Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 29,150 Everything balanced. Especially since they are all useful.   GameAddict411 Member Oct 26, 2017 10,155 I have 3 characters maxed out and two are at level 96 so not horrible.   hydruxo ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 22,775 Maelle >>> Verso > Lune >>> Sciel > Monoco But later on you get way more lumina so I balanced them out closer  Adryuu Master of the Wind Member Oct 27, 2017 6,525 Voted and finished the game equally balanced over all characters. But now I'm doing endgame things after seeing credits and I've successfully done a Lune killing machine build with over 400 lumina points that destroyed all endless tower almost by herself. Also the Flying Manor end boss was finally managed by her solo (with Roulette lol). Now I'm going for the Maelle build just for the well known "hardest boss" but honestly if it takes too much work I may just watch the remaining journal in youtube and call it a day. Lune was entirely my build and while the things I'm seeing for Maelle are similar, it's not the same and not mine, so it's ok to just quit here, especially as there's not much more game for me. I was just doing this while postponing starting a new game but that time has come now.  Khanimus Avenger Oct 25, 2017 46,600 Greater Vancouver Lotus said: Don't sleep on Sciel Click to expand... Click to shrink... I used her a bit up until the big ending of Act 1. Since then, it'd been mostly Lune and Maelle backing me up.   Ouroboros Member Oct 27, 2017 16,219 focused on 3 main. towards endgame I worked on the backup 2 when Expedition 33 took their last stand (fucking love this game's details like that)   YozoraXV Member Oct 30, 2017 3,807 EduBRK said: Main party was Verso, Maelle and Monoco, but everyone was equal leveled. Stats: Agility up till 99, then luck 99, then might. All luminas distributed equally. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is pretty much me as well. Lune and Sciel are my fallback party who can pretty much sustain themselves with healing and damage output.  Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 124,379 Khanimus said: I used her a bit up until the big ending of Act 1. Since then, it'd been mostly Lune and Maelle backing me up. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I was ready to not engage with her because it felt too annoying, but that one weapon she gets that sets her up with 10 foretell on any sun-based move made me see the vision lol EduBRK said: Stats: Agility up till 99, then luck 99 Click to expand... Click to shrink... Agility is one thing, but I love how this is an RPG where everyone is a crit warrior and you're just better off tailoring towards that lol  BennyWhatever Member Oct 27, 2017 5,524 US Maelle, Verso, Lune only. I gave nothing to Sciel and Monoco lol. Distributed all Lumina points equally among the 3 mains. I basically had my end-game weapons about 10 hours in and would max those out and build around them. I did replace one or two with post-game weapons. Stat distribution for every levelup was 2 Vitality (until 99) then 1 in whatever the weapon stats were.  NightShift Member Oct 25, 2017 10,353 Australia I liked playing as everybody so I tried to keep it even but... yeah, Maelle and Verso were definitely above the rest most of the time.   Khanimus Avenger Oct 25, 2017 46,600 Greater Vancouver Lotus said: I was ready to not engage with her because it felt too annoying, but that one weapon she gets that sets her up with 10 foretell on any sun-based move made me see the vision lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh I got that weapon and absolutely used it a ton with her, she just fell out of conversation with the story turn. Maelle had to be in the party from then on lol   Akiba756 Member Oct 1, 2020 1,634 Sao Paolo, Brazil Kill3r7 said: Everything balanced. Especially since they are all useful. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Everyone but (act 1 spoilers) Gustave, I kept forcing myself to use him when I noticed his damage output was falling behind everyone else, my thought was "I hope the rest of his skill tree opens up soon, and he gets weapons with perks"   closer Member Oct 25, 2017 5,647 i just played 3 chars the entire game, stat leveling seemed superfluous but I was only playing on normal   chanman Member Nov 9, 2017 1,727 I experimented with different teams but fell on Lune, Maelle and Monoco as my favorite team. Sometimes I swap Verso or Sciel with Lune.   Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 124,379 Khanimus said: Oh I got that weapon and absolutely used it a ton with her, she just fell out of conversation with the story turn. Maelle had to be in the party from then on lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... I was using her before said turn because she was the first to reach the Act 1 damage cap 🤣 Only got a little into Act 2 though, so still plenty of story to go through  Agni Kai Member Nov 2, 2017 10,029 I went with Maelle, Lune, and Sciel for my main party. I used Monoco occasionally because he's groovy as fuck. Verso got the scraps.  Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 29,150 Akiba756 said: Everyone but (act 1 spoilers) Gustave, I kept forcing myself to use him when I noticed his damage output was falling behind everyone else, my thought was "I hope the rest of his skill tree opens up soon, and he gets weapons with perks" Click to expand... Click to shrink... Interesting because Gustave's overcharge is rather good at dps but he is a support character priming enemies for the rest of the team to shine. Maelle is ridiculously OP pretty early on, as long as you get good at counterattacking. Sciel is the best support from Act 2 onward.  TripleBee Prophet of Truth Member Oct 30, 2017 7,536 Canada Kept it pretty balanced.   Yurei Member Feb 28, 2023 1,321 For most of the game I used Sciel, Lune, Verso then towards the end I went with a Break build using Sciel, Verso and Monoco. I never switched out characters so it took a sec to get Monoco up to Sciel and Vero's level lol.  Renteka-Bond Chicken Chaser Member Dec 28, 2017 6,071 Clearwater, Florida Balanced for most of the game, but my Primary party was Lune / Sciel / Monoco, with Lune being my "Main" and getting the lion's share of Lumina in the endgame. Went with a fun Heal-Buff / DOT Nuke Team by basically using Typhoon as an AP / Buff Battery for the Squad, then Stacking Storm Caller and Terraquake for Passive Damage, then Elemental Genesis and Hellfire for big Damage nukes. Was a lot of fun having access to so much damage per turn for big waves and required a bit of Stain management to keep me awake.  watching alice Member Oct 5, 2024 48 Everyone leveled the same way until act 3 20 vit 45 agility 35 luck no points in other stats. When I got into act 3 and I had good weapons I respect-ed basing stats on weapons' scalings  Adryuu Master of the Wind Member Oct 27, 2017 6,525 Agni Kai said: I used Monoco occasionally because he's groovy as fuck. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Owowow!  NabiscoFelt One Winged Slayer Member Aug 15, 2019 8,691 I always try to level party members equally in RPGs Though yeah Maelle did end up getting a couple extra Lumina points towards the end of the game (like 10 ahead of the rest)  NotVeryFriendly Member Oct 27, 2017 4,228 I was mainly balanced, with the exception that I gave Maelle got 20/30 more Lumina points than the rest of the cast. My primary characters were Luna, Maelle, Monoco (I had wanted to use Verso instead of Monoco, but the risk of losing any missable skills forced me to use Monoco), with Verso and Sciel as my backup. My backup team were at a slightly lower level then my primary characters. For most of the game, I primarily levelled Vitality, Agility, and Luck, and ignored the other stats.  Nameless Member Oct 25, 2017 17,283 Maelle, Lune, and Sciel split everything more or less evenly(some slight, occasional build/situational favoritism aside). The others are basically ignored. I don't even bring in the bench players when the A-Team falls.   Sephiroth Member Oct 26, 2017 7,164 All you need is Maelle   dralla Member Oct 27, 2017 3,336 I used all the characters and leveled them up equally. Stat distribution was based on weapon scaling. You get plenty of re-spec items so changing weapons and stats was never an issue.   Sirank Member Oct 27, 2017 1,620 By the end I had Maelle and Lune 500+ lumina. Monoco was around 280. Really sorry Sciel and GustaveVerso, they only had 120ish.   Diogo Arez One Winged Slayer Member Oct 20, 2020 20,339 All in on Maelle, Verso and Lune, the rest got the leftover scraps   Prinny Member Oct 25, 2017 277 Moon, Clive, Maelle only.  

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