jett Community Resettler Member Oct 25, 2017 46,031 This game has been mostly a frustrating struggle in making it through each of biomes, but I think I might have had enough with biome 5. Getting through biome 4 is not really fun, its enemy configurations are annoying to deal with even if I can get past them, but when I reach biome 5 I just get melted from every direction possible. Reaching the FUCK THIS point. I really like how the game plays and how the controls feel overall, but I gotta say I'm not sure how much fun the 20 hours I have put into it have been exactly. I wonder if they will make changes to Saros in regards to general mainstream accessibility.  Stef Member Oct 28, 2017 7,478 Rome, Italy, Planet Earth jett said: This game has been mostly a frustrating struggle in making it through each of biomes, but I think I might have had enough with biome 5. Getting through biome 4 is not really fun, its enemy configurations are annoying to deal with even if I can get past them, but when I reach biome 5 I just get melted from every direction possible. Reaching the FUCK THIS point. I really like how the game plays and how the controls feel overall, but I gotta say I'm not sure how much fun the 20 hours I have put into it have been exactly. I wonder if they will make changes to Saros in regards to general mainstream accessibility. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I had enough in biome #3. Runs are WAY too long and too similar to each other. Good gameplay, but the rest is terribly boring.  harinezumi Member Oct 27, 2017 20,066 Buenos Aires, Argentina I felt very similarly and ended up never beating it. I still intend to return to it at some point but... yeah.   sazz Member Aug 3, 2020 5,958 London, UK my personal experience was that after finally beating biome 3 the rest of the game was a cake walk   Socivol Member Oct 25, 2017 7,258 I will play it coop with you and help you get through it just PM me. Returnal is tough but the gameplay is just so addicting.   AzorAhai Member Oct 29, 2017 8,189 I beat it but I understand. Biome 5 is ruthless. You have seen most of the game anyway, so take a break and try again later or wait for Saros, which will probably more balanced/accessible. Edit : oh, Socivol offer is a great alternative!  Duxxy3 Member Oct 27, 2017 24,423 USA I haven't played the game in just under two years. My run is still active and it's the furthest I've ever been. So I haven't won, but I technically haven't lost yet either.   Lord Error Member Oct 27, 2017 5,128 If you got that far, I assure you, you can do it. I thought I didn't have what it takes to finish the game and have proven myself wrong spectacularly, to the point that I ended up being able to play it almost on autopilot. Just find some good gun upgrades for guns that you probably don't normally use, and it may transform the game for you. Now that you are where you are, you can retry biome 5 quickly anyway.  Last edited: Today at 10:59 AM YaBish Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 5,856 sazz said: my personal experience was that after finally beating biome 3 the rest of the game was a cake walk Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah same here. Beat it in 12 or so deaths at launch, when the suicide drones were juiced as hell. Probably 5-6 of those deaths were from them alone lol   HStallion Member Oct 25, 2017 68,962 sazz said: my personal experience was that after finally beating biome 3 the rest of the game was a cake walk Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. Some of the guns get stupidly OP after you unlock some of the basic mods. Some you barely need to aim. You also have a pretty good idea how to game the system by the point.  Nakenorm "This guy are sick" The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 26,663 sazz said: my personal experience was that after finally beating biome 3 the rest of the game was a cake walk Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah that was my experience as well.   sazz Member Aug 3, 2020 5,958 London, UK YaBish said: Yeah same here. Beat it in 12 or so deaths at launch, when the suicide drones were juiced as hell. Probably 5-6 of those deaths were from them alone lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah the drones were absolutely crazy lol, I didn't even realise they were nerfed   harinezumi Member Oct 27, 2017 20,066 Buenos Aires, Argentina YaBish said: Yeah same here. Beat it in 12 or so deaths at launch, when the suicide drones were juiced as hell. Probably 5-6 of those deaths were from them alone lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... If you beat it in 12 or so deaths your skill level is way above the average player.  Blindy Member Nov 16, 2017 4,071 Game goes downhill after Biome 4, especially when I played it on launch(on a technical standpoint alone but I know it got patched up). The gauntlet runs of Biome 5 are a bit much but Biome 6 was the worst thing from a technical perspective that I played in a while from Sony. Final boss glitch, and audio glitch due to a weapon. Shame because that Biome 4 boss is one of the best non-Soulsbourne boss fights this generation.  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,470 It defeated me as well, I get it.   WildArms Member Apr 30, 2022 2,676 I gave up after the first boss fight attempt and the first biome. I understand rogue likes now but.... F that, man. I do t have the patience for it. I also played it on launch and I heard they made it a lot easier since but still. The difficulty? The most type of difficult content I'll try is like... The hardest content available in a Monster Hunter game or beating a FromSoft game.  Gestault Member Oct 26, 2017 14,540 I recommend sticking with it and just coming back later, but something I ALWAYS feel compelled to spell out is that the game has some bullshit RNG structure to when the game design decides you "should" lose. You can have an incredibly optimized build for any number of specific traits, and it'll set you up in a fight that might as well ignore your specs so that whole run ends up being a waste of time, you effectively have to lose. You can mitigate it as you unlock more relics, but that bullshit chance is always present, and I think it makes the game worse.   Mr.Deadshot Member Oct 27, 2017 22,711 It's bullshit, I have no time and motivation to replay the game dozens of times to reach the end. Hades showed how a roguelite should be done. But I'd wish even more that Returnal was a normal third person story shooter because the core mechanics and artstyle of the game are really good.   Elandyll Avenger Oct 25, 2017 9,443 The first 3 biomes were frustrating, with the biped aliens almost reaching my limit. Then, not sure how, I found some weapons and upgrades that worked, and ended up reframing my play time in journey rather than goal (the update allowing to resume play also helped a lot), and it clicked fully. Ended up platinuming the game and having the best time. I should go back and try the tower sometime.  Jalen Member Dec 18, 2017 260 Biome 5 defeated me too. Really was enjoying it up to that point, but just was getting melted, similar to you.   modsbox Member Oct 28, 2017 816 Take a look at the returnal subreddit for some tips. 5 is completely doable with the right strategy, but TL;DR-- - get an electropylon driver - remember that you're invincible when grappling - in the large open areas with the drones just run to the exit, don't try to kill everything. - there's no final boss so don't worry about saving large health for a boss fight  Baobab Member Feb 4, 2021 1,274 Indeed it is not a balanced game. I think that hurt the game´s potential of success a lot.  T88heon Member Aug 26, 2024 871 sazz said: my personal experience was that after finally beating biome 3 the rest of the game was a cake walk Click to expand... Click to shrink... Biome 3 is definitely the most challenging.  Bulby Prophet of Truth Member Oct 29, 2017 5,872 Berlin I dont remember what Biome 5 was now... The only thing that ever really pissed me off was those fucking suicide drones, but I learnt to deal with them.  HStallion Member Oct 25, 2017 68,962 WildArms said: I gave up after the first boss fight attempt and the first biome. I understand rogue likes now but.... F that, man. I do t have the patience for it. I also played it on launch and I heard they made it a lot easier since but still. The difficulty? The most type of difficult content I'll try is like... The hardest content available in a Monster Hunter game or beating a FromSoft game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I actually think Returnal ends up being easier than any Souls game. The guns can get stupid OP in short order. Some rocket launcher variants are basically super homing missile spam that can nuke even elite mobs in less than 10 seconds. You don't even have to really aim  Audiblee Member Mar 14, 2025 507 I thought the difficulty peaked in biome 3. Everything after felt much easier, notably the final boss, who is a cakewalk. The game is not easy though, and a lot of it comes down to weapon and upgrade choices.  hydrophilic attack Corrupted by Vengeance Member Oct 25, 2017 23,311 Sweden biome 5 is definitely the big difficulty spike. if you can push through it you will be able to beat the game if you beeline to the boss in the final biome, because while the final biome in and of itself is tough, its boss is very easy saros will likely be easier yes, or rather, it will have more obvious metaprogression, that's what "come back stronger" hinting at  ALXJ REFANTAZIO SWEEP Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Feb 16, 2021 1,045 belieeeeeve try new weapons, be picky and restart runs, search every blue room and spend! that! currency! as everyone here talked, if you beat biome 3 the game gets easier. i believe in you :3  Remember Me Member Apr 3, 2018 323 Spain I didn't event get to biome 2. I guess I was just really very bad at it. It was my first roguelike and I think maybe I just don't like roguelikes, since I've tried a couple more and haven't been able to play more than like two hours. I still have to try Hades.   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 33,324 modsbox said: - remember that you're invincible when grappling Click to expand... Click to shrink... This, so much this. Grapple like like a madman in Biome 5.  Stat Member Oct 25, 2017 6,231 I was sick of the game crashing, and not being able to save at the time. Game defeated me as well. I think its a little overrated tbh   Zerpette Member Jun 23, 2023 2,007 I haven't even bothered trying it. I don't want to risk getting frustrated and either stubbornly forcing my way through or having to quit before the end. That's the opposite of fun for me and not why I play video games. It's not like there aren't plenty of other games out there.   Temperance "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 6,828 [NO 2FA] Boy you are missing out on going beyond Biome 5. The next boss is awesome sauce. Actually looking at the list of biomes again you might be near the end more then not. Stop if it's not fun. GG.  MrTomato Member Jan 20, 2022 3,582 YaBish said: Yeah same here. Beat it in 12 or so deaths at launch, when the suicide drones were juiced as hell. Probably 5-6 of those deaths were from them alone lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... Same for me. Once you've beaten Biome 3, the rest is not going to be harder. Biome 5 can be a little tricky, but it just really depends on your upgrades, weapon chooices and parasites   Bjomesphat Member Nov 5, 2017 2,102 Biome 5 is frustrating, maybe moreso than 3, but by that point in the game you should know that you can beat it, you just need the right run. Not sure if it helps, but I thought biome 6 was pretty easy. Though everyone has their own experience.  Pai Pai Master Member Oct 25, 2017 36,597 Atlanta GA 4 was really hard for me lol, but then I beat 5 without dying once. I like how everyone seems to have different places they struggle with in this game lol I know 3 was really tough but it gets easy once you learn the proper way to not get destroyed by those flying drones' missiles  JoJo'sDentCo Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 25, 2017 9,188 I honestly don't think the game is balanced enough to be fun for the masses. Kept it from being a big success.   SolidSnakex Member Oct 25, 2017 27,390 Upgrade the holy grail and you're good to go   Valcrist Tic-Tac-Toe Champion Member Oct 25, 2017 10,734 the missile drones killed the game for me. I stopped with them...   EvaUnit787 Member Aug 6, 2023 2,711 I wonder if you have gotten all the good weapon and other upgrades because by the time I got to Biome 5 it was not that hard and I could easily move ahead. I think my wall was biome 3 and the homing enemies, but the right combination of weapons can make it so damn easy  Alienous Member Oct 25, 2017 9,866 In terms of advice I would say just focus on the dash. It's not so much a dodge as it is temporary invulnerability. So dashing into projectiles so you can get them behind you, for instance. Dashing left / right, or forward / back to keep a solid position. The game is the dashing - you might just need to be more proactive with how you use it.  Jahranimo Community Resettler Member Oct 25, 2017 10,113 Biome 5 was the wall for me, but I'd say once you find your right weapon roll and you take your time with the bosses it's more manageable.   yencid Member Oct 27, 2017 561 Honestly the game becomes a cakewalk once you realize what weapons and perks are OP in the game. Was 2 trophies away from plat but i think my game got bugged and the RNG never gave me the items i needed.  Rodney McKay Member Oct 26, 2017 13,739 Most rogue-likes are like this for me, even super popular ones like Hades. Each level is just another leap you need to make in your pure technical skill to progress, on top of the usual randomness of your upgrades. So one run you might luck out and have a weapon you click with and all the upgrades make it a breeze up to a certain point. But then you die, and you don't get nearly as far because you just didn't have the same luck. I got to the final boss in Dead Cells once (before all the DLC) after having a great run but then I died and it just sapped all my motivation to keep playing the game. I know that's literally the genre, and I might just fundamentally not like that aspect of it. But I have a feeling that there might be a game someday that has all these elements and doesn't frustrate me. Maybe something in between the simplicity and passivity of a Vampire Survivor, and the extreme difficulty and high skill requirements of a Hades or Returnal.  MadMod Member Dec 4, 2017 4,565 Just wanna let you know that I can beat the whole game start to finish within 45 mins now, it gets much easier haha.   HStallion Member Oct 25, 2017 68,962 SolidSnakex said: Upgrade the holy grail and you're good to go Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah this thing with the homing missiles, the splitting into smaller missiles after hitting an enemy that also home and a third mod made this godly.  Qrusher14242 Member Oct 29, 2017 731 Got to Biome 2 or 3 a bunch of times but never got further. Runs were way too long, got tired of replaying the same levels over and over with little/no variety. Gunplay was fun but it wasnt what i was looking for or want in a roguelike. Lack of enemy variety or interesting weapon combinations or upgrades really soured me on it.   construct Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Jun 5, 2020 10,711 𖦹 whatever biome is the egypt desert one is where i quit. too boring and long   Vincent Grayson Member Oct 27, 2017 7,141 Mount Airy, MD harinezumi said: If you beat it in 12 or so deaths your skill level is way above the average player. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Games are so wild in this way. Like, I haven't even remotely the patience/skill needed to meaningfully engage with and enjoy the various From Software games at face value, but I had very little problem smashing through Returnal with about that many deaths, maybe less? Like, I know they're different games in many ways, but whenever people talk about skill and difficulty of games, I find myself so often feeling like "wow, they thought that was too easy on hard while I died many times on easy".  Alexandros Member Oct 26, 2017 19,426 jett said: This game has been mostly a frustrating struggle in making it through each of biomes, but I think I might have had enough with biome 5. Getting through biome 4 is not really fun, its enemy configurations are annoying to deal with even if I can get past them, but when I reach biome 5 I just get melted from every direction possible. Reaching the FUCK THIS point. I really like how the game plays and how the controls feel overall, but I gotta say I'm not sure how much fun the 20 hours I have put into it have been exactly. I wonder if they will make changes to Saros in regards to general mainstream accessibility. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I beat the game a few days ago and I loved it but biome 5 is pretty rough. Use the grapple points as often as you can in tough battles and it may give you hope to know that biome 5 doesn't have a boss. You just need to get the three keys.