Brickhunt Member Feb 4, 2018 1,098 Brazil Don't get me wrong. I am very much excited for the game and intend to get it as soon as it releases. The game looks extremely good, without a doubt about it. But the thing is: I am a Metroid fan, this looks and feels like Metroid Prime, so I am already a target audience. However, I have a feeling that Metroid Prime 4's marketing debut this year has been sort of lackluster. I want this game to be successful, and I am concerned. I feel like a repeat of MP3's marketing cycle, which I also felt was mishandled. I barely see Era talking about it, and I feel the same for other websites such as Reddit. The game gets a major segment in the Switch direct, one that everyone already knows will be overshadowed by the Switch 2 direct next week, but the trailer they showed was sort of bland. Maybe it was the voice over spoon feeding everything. Yes, I see it's Metroid Prime, but does non-Metroid players care? For the Switch 2, we get confirmation that MP4 is getting a Switch 2 version! In a segment a few seconds long, barely showing anything new or a decent comparison to the Switch version. Btw, it's not releasing on the launch of Nintendo Switch 2, so we have no idea when it's coming. Even the treehouse showing does not match the trailers for this year, maybe it would had been better to save last years's trailer for this year. I feel like if they just skipped MP4 in the Switch direct, and debuted the trailer on the Switch 2 direct, maybe impact would had been better. As of now, it really feels like Nintendo needs to work on how to better present MP4. Drop the voice overs spoon feeding everyone and show a better balance of exploration and combat.  NotLiquid One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 37,592 I'll worry about the hype when they cut an actual trailer closer to release that shows more of the actual game, not just a short overview of the game's intro portion. Right now this just feels to me like what TOTK went through.   Schlomo Member Oct 25, 2017 1,248 Seems in line with shadow dropping the Prime 1 Remake and pricing it like they did. They just don't seem to have any confidence that it could reach a bigger audience than just existing Metroid fans.   ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 5,965 i'm not concerned- they'll ramp up info for the game when they have a launch date. People have played the game and have all been happy with it.  Noppie Member Oct 27, 2017 14,532 Don't agree entirely. The Prime 4 Switch trailer wasn't too exciting sure, but the Switch 2 updates and gameplay there had plenty of positive reception. Won't sell gangbusters either way, wouldn't worry about it.  Mason56 Member Feb 8, 2024 115 The trailers weren't great tbh. They don't get me excited for the game at all   Porygon One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 4,605 Mexicali 4K, 120fps, Mouse controls I don't know what else do you want from this game  Guerrilla Member Oct 28, 2017 2,467 I need a release date to really get hyped, I thought this was day one but then: 2025. So naturally my hype is deflated   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,594 Maybe on ERA ? But not with general fans of the series. People trust Retro. Porygon said: 4K, 120fps, Mouse controls I don't know what else do you want from this game Click to expand... Click to shrink... This too. If anything its higher than it would have been as Switch 1 title.  LinkStrikesBack One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 18,488 Schlomo said: Seems in line with shadow dropping the Prime 1 Remake and pricing it like they did. They just don't seem to have any confidence that it could reach a bigger audience than just existing Metroid fans. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It looks exactly like Metroid prime 1 but with a modern coat of paint. Why would anyone expect it to reach any more than that?  RPGamer92 Member Oct 25, 2017 5,104 Porygon said: 4K, 120fps, Mouse controls I don't know what else do you want from this game Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well 4k 60fps and 1080p 120fps but still, Switch 2 version will definitely look nice either way.   Mary Celeste Member Oct 25, 2017 14,079 it's going to be one of the best games of the year   Noppie Member Oct 27, 2017 14,532 Just, really don't expect too much of the game numbers wise OP. Part 4 in a series that didn't see an installment in 18 years and where sales cap out at around 3 million on the 2D side of the franchise....succesful, sure, but it won't do crazy numbers.  Paper Wario ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 27, 2017 3,089 The game doesn't even have a release date yet. Things will ramp up for the game when that time gets closer   Schlomo Member Oct 25, 2017 1,248 LinkStrikesBack said: It looks exactly like Metroid prime 1 but with a modern coat of paint. Why would anyone expect it to reach any more than that? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Other Nintendo franchises have expanded their audience without doing anything radically different just by being on a super successful console.  amara Member Nov 23, 2021 5,397 Unless they are only targeting existing Metroid Prime fans, they are not doing a good job selling this game.   Stat Member Oct 25, 2017 6,241 I think it just looked a little dated, both in controls + look & feel. I don't really care for mouse controls. I like playing with dual sticks. I am not some huge fan. I played the Remaster earlier this year, and I am sure while it would have blown me away 20 years ago, I was left unimpressed from a modern-day standard. I really hope I am proven wrong because I think it could be loads of fun.  CloseTalker Sister in the Craft Member Oct 25, 2017 37,692 I kind of see what you mean. It went from almost 20 years of hype building it up to be this mythical thing, to seeing it and going "oh yeah, it's going to be a video game that looks like another Metroid Prime". I think now that the mystique is gone, and reality has set in, people can build a more natural and appropriate amount of hype as the game nears launch.   xpownz ▲ Legend ▲ Member Feb 13, 2020 2,847 CloseTalker said: I kind of see what you mean. It went from almost 20 years of hype building it up to be this mythical thing, to seeing it and going "oh yeah, it's going to be a video game that looks like another Metroid Prime". I think now that the mystique is gone, and reality has set in, people can build a more natural and appropriate amount of hype as the game nears launch. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Basically this. The fantasy of it. Hype is always bigger before reveal with basically any product. Expectations x reality is a thing. That said, I cant wait to play it  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,171 Ibis Island I will say, my friends were not impressed with the last trailer. Said the narrator sound bored while showing off the game. It's still a day one purchase for them though. I think as a whole, it's because marketing wise, nothing "crazy" has been shown yet. Like Samus with a new suit is cool, but we always expect that.  FakePlasticTree Member Jul 24, 2018 13,466 I'm hyped   Jibberhack Member Oct 30, 2017 1,286 I don't think you have to couch your statements with a reassurance of your own personal enthusiasm, OP. I am a fan of the original Prime game. I bought the second and never played through it in its entirety (though I own it and will do so at some point), and I never played the third game at all. It looks like a Prime game. From what we've seen, it treads quite closely to the formula. Prime games don't have the dame level of flair as other franchises. I mean, Dread even suffers from this as a Metroid game. In either case, you know what you're getting, and I don't think you're gonna necessarily attract a wider audience. I think Beyond will be a good game, but I don't expect it to be mind-blowing.  Clefargle One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,186 Limburg I'm hyped, gonna hold off on playing it until I upgrade to a 4K TV. It will be my first 4K gaming purchase I wanna see it that way for the first time   Jencks Member Oct 25, 2017 9,073 It was never going to live up to the fantasy people built up in their heads   Philippo Developer Verified Oct 28, 2017 8,728 I only heard great stuff since the Switch 2 Direct and hands on.   hydro94530 Chicken Chaser Member Oct 27, 2017 8,060 Bay Area Disagree, the recent treehouse video was fucking awesome!! Very excited for this game.   DarkLegion Avenger Oct 28, 2017 1,872 I think the trailers just need more energy and hype. The voice over trailers are sort of bland-- but that's probably the challenge that comes with conveying the prime gameplay.   Skies Member Oct 25, 2017 3,339 Definitely need to see an actual real trailer. We have not even gotten one. Just a bunch of narrated content. I think 4K 60 FPS with mouse control is going to move some units if they can get it close to launch. Hoping the trailer with release date is a banger. The treehouse footage of the above pretty much confirmed to me that game is going to be awesome. As in, MP3 levels. Retro still has it. Just not sure it can love up to the original Metroid Prime. But I imagine most people off this message board did not even see the above.  poptire Avatar Wrecking Crew The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 14,571 Reserving my judgment until we see more of the game post-intro.   Graven Member Oct 30, 2018 4,471 LinkStrikesBack said: It looks exactly like Metroid prime 1 but with a modern coat of paint. Why would anyone expect it to reach any more than that? Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is true. I said it before, Metroid Prime to me is one of the greatest games ever made, but i would expect some more ambition after 15 years and 3 successor consoles. I'm positive the game will be very good, but, it's not exactly doing anything out of the ordinary.   cyress8 "This guy are sick" Avenger Oct 25, 2017 5,935 being broke, to being semi-broke. Other than the mouse mode not looking too useful. The game looks pretty great to me.   QuigleyMcShine Member Jan 29, 2018 10,737 I'm sure it'll be great but not getting a date was hype deflating.   DarkChronic Member Oct 27, 2017 5,564 For me, it was just that the new trailers looked a bit dated, gameplay wise. "Use your psychic powers...to open doors" had me rollin'. Still very excited for the game, though.  Sax The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,531 The trailers were kind of... eh. But I love how the game looks and the Prime series are some of my favorite games ever. The only thing I'm disappointed by is where's the god damn release date?! I was thinking it would surely be a launch title =(   Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,202 Jencks said: It was never going to live up to the fantasy people built up in their heads Click to expand... Click to shrink... This lol. Game looks good, self inflicted wound by getting caught up in hype culture and making stuff in their head. Same thing is going to happen with Silksong  pswii60 Member Oct 27, 2017 28,613 The Milky Way It looks like more of the same through and through. Which, to me, is a guaranteed day one purchase. Because there's nothing else quite like MP, I just love how old school it looks and how it is clearly sticking to the MP roots. I'm literally buying a Switch 2 so I can play it at 120fps. But that's me, and probably most existing MP fans. It looks like it has been made specifically for us. For everyone else, given how the gaming world has moved on in 20 years, I'm not surprised if there wouldn't be much interest outside the bubble. But perhaps the bubble is more than big enough to guarantee success - didn't MP remastered do well?  Ehoavash One Winged Slayer Member Oct 28, 2017 7,579 I mean Metroid prime has a ceiling...unless they go 3rd person Im not interested   Hero One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 8,626 I think Nintendo is really holding back from showing too much of the 'secret sauce' on what is going to make MP4 really stick out. Like they showed us the premise that we have psychic powers, but no way it just involves opening doors and aiming projectiles. Not sure if its the best move for marketing, but I think the next showing they'll start hyping it up more as we get closer to launch.   FossilPhantom Member Oct 22, 2019 152 I think the question "What should Metroid Prime be in 2025?" just has a lot of different answers depending on who you ask. For some people looking like "Metroid Prime" but at 4K 60fps and 1080p 120fps is a dream come true. For others, they imagined a much more radical departure from what came before. With both the game's turbulent development and Retro's struggles as a studio, going with a game that looks like Metroid Prime just with every notch turned to 11 makes a tons of sense. I have no doubt it will be a 10/10 game, but Prime has never really been a series that shows well just because the brilliance tends to be in the little moments. I do hope people who have never played Prime before give it a try, but it's not going to blow the roof off in expanded appeal  Atom Member Jul 25, 2021 15,032 Because it looks like more metroid prime and not in a good way. Sort of feels like a checking of boxes rather than a real pushing of the envelope or evolution of the subseries. Not saying there can't be something they haven't shown yet, just that if you've played Prime 1 2 3 and were expecting the last 8 years to go into a substantial expansion of the series, the trailers haven't shown that. They're also just very boringly edited and bland. Awkwardly cut together with a bland narration that literally just tells you "samus can do basic franchise staple x y z". But like, idk. They could have shown more interesting combat (seamless melee + ranged), morph ball combos, or more interesting traversal (wall cling? speed booster? air dashes?), or more striking environments than "forest planet" "rocky planet", or more interesting gimmicks than "new lock/key system to solve basic puzzles". I'm sure the game will be good because Retro is competent, but if you told me a year ago I'd see multiple Prime 4 trailers and extended gameplay footage and be left thoroughly whelmed I'd have said surely you're joking mr. feynman. Hoping the time/dimension travel stuff they seem to be hinting at ends up being interesting. The only excitement I've seen is that the Switch 2 version looks and plays good.  udivision Member Oct 25, 2017 4,113 As a non-Metroid fan who was kinda sorta interested in MP4 due to everything surrounding it... yeah I imagine there's a number of people who went "Oh okay, right, Metroid Prime" and didn't have much to say after. That's not even a bad thing, but I don't think there's (yet) the hook that says "Pay attention to this game, you people who ignored the first 3 massively critical acclaimed games for some reason".   MuricaBob Member Jun 28, 2023 889 Don't these games have a lower ceiling than other Nintendo titles? As a first person shooter/gameplay fan, I never quite "got" the Metroid Prime series. I'm still looking forward to giving 4 a shake, but at face value it looks like a fairly dated shooter. I'd be more excited for a Metroidvania experience.  Reflecting Sky Member Mar 17, 2024 2,366 This is very likely a Tears of the Kingdom-like scenario; they've barely scratched the surface in showing us the game.   ClickyCal' Member Oct 25, 2017 64,866 Graven said: I'm positive the game will be very good, but, it's not exactly doing anything out of the ordinary. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We've seen clips from only the first hour of the game.   Noog ▲ Legend ▲ Member May 1, 2018 3,250 We know extremely little about the game. We don't know any major set pieces, any power ups, suit upgrades, or many locations. A lot of what makes Metroid fun is the surprise   giapel Member Oct 28, 2017 5,134 Feels like a cycle for everything, especially Nintendo stuff. No information leads to endless speculation and overhyping. Actual information comes out, doesn't match all expectations so hype deflates. I fear for what happens to Silksong when it can never live up to the hype cycle. Mind, I'm never a good judge of hype, always thought Prime 4 was low key.  ClickyCal' Member Oct 25, 2017 64,866 MuricaBob said: Don't these games have a lower ceiling than other Nintendo titles? As a first person shooter/gameplay fan, I never quite "got" the Metroid Prime series. I'm still looking forward to giving 4 a shake, but at face value it looks like a fairly dated shooter. I'd be more excited for a Metroidvania experience. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Metroid Prime is literally a 3d Metroidvania lol, so you're in for exactly what you want.   Truno Member Jan 16, 2020 5,672 The on-hand impressions are unanimously positive   Pargon Member Oct 27, 2017 13,900 It doesn't look like there's been any evolution of the Prime formula at all, just another one of those. Which is fine - the Prime games were great. But I think a lot of people had already been burned out on that formula by the third game. I know many that never even played that one. And the mouse interactions don't really look any better than the Wii interactions from the third game.  TheQueensOwn Member Oct 27, 2017 287 I've wanted Metroid Prime 4 forever. One of my favorite series. That said, after playing Returnal, I think I want a hybrid of that and Metroid more.