Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,174 Ibis Island Platforms: Xbox, PS4, Switch, PC Price: $49.99 (Available Physically, Xbox Play Anywhere Support for Xbox Digital) Release Date: March 6th 2025 View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PGH51IQFWEY&pp=ygUTU3Vpa29kZW4gY29sbGVjdGlvbg%3D%3D ABOUT THIS GAMEA hero's destiny is written in the Stars The legendary KONAMI JRPGs Suikoden I and Suikoden II have now been remastered in HD! The Story of Suikoden I A once renowned hero turns into a violent tyrant, and an empire falls into decline. A Liberation Army is rising up in an act of rebellion against an oppressive rule. One by one the 108 stars of Destiny gather to shape the course of history. The Story of Suikoden II Our story's hero and his friend Jowy are members of the Unicorn Youth Brigade, which participated in a drawn-out border dispute between the Highland Kingdom and the City-States of Jowston . A few months earlier, a truce agreement was signed between the two forces, both of which were happy to see an end to the fighting. However, hidden under the momentary peace the fires of a new war continued to smolder… Features of Suikoden I & Suikoden II HD ・All background illustrations have been upgraded to HD ・Updated effects breathe new life into the pixel art animation ・New environmental sounds effects to immerse yourself in this fantasy world ・Battle SFX are also now HD and add a new level of realism ・Newly added auto-save ・Battle Fast Forward ・Conversation Log   Last edited: Mar 4, 2025 FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,212 Tokyo Thanks for the OT! Cannot wait to play these two games again!  Gure Avenger Oct 28, 2017 1,103 Hell yeah!!   Merton Member Oct 25, 2017 1,443 At first I said this isn't out until March, why so early with an OT and then realized it is March......excellent OT   lucablight Member Oct 27, 2017 2,895 Here's hoping this will be the definitive version of the games.   Jubilant Duck Member Oct 21, 2022 9,025 Merton said: At first I said this isn't out until March, why so early with an OT and then realized it is March......excellent OT Click to expand... Click to shrink... Time escapes us like grains of sand falling through the fingers. With every breath you draw closer to your death. Please enjoy replaying Suikoden I & II as you hurtle towards your mortal transition into the immortal nothingness.  Baphomet Member Dec 8, 2018 21,291 It's predownloading right now , can't wait for the 6th :)   hersheyfan Powered by Friendship™ Member Oct 25, 2017 1,888 Manila, Philippines Preordered on Steam, with an NSW physical copy out for delivery. Suikoden is back, lets fucking go!!  Kazer "This guy are sick" Member Oct 27, 2017 3,036 Thanks for making the OT, Jaw! Excited to replay these. Haven't played either in like ~25 years.   BassForever One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 31,491 CT This thread is a reminder I've not pre ordered the physical, fixed that.   MangoUltz "This guy are sick" Member Mar 24, 2019 3,875 Great OT. So excited to play these again. It's been years (decades). Have the physical coming from Amazon and it's saying no delivery until 10 March, which is a massive bummer  Modest_Modsoul Living the Dreams Member Oct 29, 2017 27,840 I am curious to see/read the new localization. It's time to put South Window to the rest.  Saphirax Member Oct 25, 2017 1,350 Ahhhh, I can't wait! 2 is my favorite game in the series.   N64Controller Member Nov 2, 2017 11,680 Reminder to everyone who is new to the Suikoden franchise, there's a lot of characters BUT there's a lot of incentives to use a lot of them, too. Leveling up in these games is super easy, just bring a low level character with you and they'll skyrocket to high levels after very few fights. So don't hesitate to test things out.  Vargas Member Oct 27, 2017 680 Don't leave Pahn on the sidelines.   Scar One Winged Slayer Member Oct 26, 2017 3,111 Title Town You can turn off the timer for the Clive sidequest. This will help me during my streams of the game, so I don't have to rush and I can still showcase everything these games have to offer.   Mivey Member Oct 25, 2017 20,299 Will be neat to finally have this series on PC. Never played a Suikoden game before. Hoping this runs well on Steam Deck (would be strange if not) and that it's playable that way in terms of screen size.   Hours Left Member Oct 26, 2017 19,854 I'm so excited. 🤩🤩🤩 Suikoden is the best series there is. I hope this is just the beginning of the resurgence of the IP. Thank you Jawmuncher for stepping up and making the OT!  Paertan Member Oct 28, 2017 1,556 Can´t wait for the weekend! Played them both 10+ times but it has been quite a while since my last playthrough.   strife85 Member Oct 30, 2017 1,774 Do I need to play 1 to enjoy 2? I heard 2 is the better game.   Liam Allen-Miller Member Nov 2, 2017 7,836 Shibuya Not a Suikoden guy but this thread title absolutely kicks ass   Vincent Grayson Member Oct 27, 2017 7,155 Mount Airy, MD I can't remember, is it the first or the second game that has a time-gated recruit you have to get by a certain number of hours or miss entirely?   Lucreto Member Oct 25, 2017 7,200 strife85 said: Do I need to play 1 to enjoy 2? I heard 2 is the better game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not really. It's more for continuity. You can play it separately but you get a better overall view of the world. There are characters and places in the first game that appear in the second.  Hours Left Member Oct 26, 2017 19,854 strife85 said: Do I need to play 1 to enjoy 2? I heard 2 is the better game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Do you have to? No. Should you? Absolutely. Suikoden's most defining feature is the continuing story, themes and characters between instalments. Vincent Grayson said: I can't remember, is it the first or the second game that has a time-gated recruit you have to get by a certain number of hours or miss entirely? Click to expand... Click to shrink... There is no time gated recruit in either game, but Suikoden II has a time gated side quest that is purely just extra story. Though they just revealed in the livestream that you can turn off the time barrier for the side quest now and do it at your leisure.  Brando "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 1,583 Vincent Grayson said: I can't remember, is it the first or the second game that has a time-gated recruit you have to get by a certain number of hours or miss entirely? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's the second game for Clive but it isn't for a recruitment. His whole side quest is now a trophy which you have to do in under 20 hours. The day 1 patch is adding an option to turn off this time limit. If you're going for the platinum you'll also have to be playing hard mode. I cant imagine many first timers going in blind being able to do this in 20 hours so there's no reason why you shouldn't turn this option on. View: https://i.imgur.com/HHmckl1.png   Like the hat? Member Oct 25, 2017 6,583 Suikoden II has been my favorite game since i first played it in 1999. I've played through it countless times since then. I'll be playing through it again now. It's been a while since ive played through the first game so that'll be a nice bonus   Blue_Toad507 Member May 25, 2021 3,671 Are there no reviews yet? I'm interested as someone who has never played the series but I want to see the consensus before committing to these versions.   tucah Member Oct 25, 2017 1,461 Huge fan of the series but the hype behind the remaster, the fact that Suikoden is back, didn't really hit me until the silly stream yesterday. I can't wait to dig back into this world and hope the remasters are good.   OmegaDL50 One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 10,491 Philadelphia, PA Suikoden II is my favorite game of all time and Suikoden I is an excellent game too. Really looking forward to do my yearly playthrough with this new version.   The Praiseworthy Member Oct 30, 2017 10,296 Thank you for the OT. Love this series, a lot of fond memories, still can't believe it is returning in some form. Can't wait to relive some of my favourite moments again especially in S2.  werezompire Zeboyd Games Verified Oct 26, 2017 14,638 Under new features, you can add difficulty levels. Easy, Normal, and Hard available on both games.   Sephiroth Member Oct 26, 2017 6,911 Its too bad none of the Saturn content could be added. A battle arena would have been cool.   OnanieBomb Member Oct 25, 2017 11,202 I want to preorder the heck out of this but Konami so I'm gonna wait to see what people say about performance on switch vs ps5. I'm hoping it won't be as blurry as the hd2d games on Switch because I'd rather have it there.  jungius Member Sep 5, 2021 3,420 werezompire said: Under new features, you can add difficulty levels. Easy, Normal, and Hard available on both games. Click to expand... Click to shrink... my recommendation for those who are new to the game is to play on hard for sure, the original game is toddler level difficulty, im not even lying  jungius Member Sep 5, 2021 3,420 strife85 said: Do I need to play 1 to enjoy 2? I heard 2 is the better game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... the story is self contained but 1/4 of characters of suikoden 2 is from suikoden 1 and the story is directly correlated, I'd say play 1 first because it is a short game, I finished the game in one sitting 5 years ago.  tokkun Member Oct 27, 2017 6,105 strife85 said: Do I need to play 1 to enjoy 2? I heard 2 is the better game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't need to, but Suikoden 1 is a pretty brisk game by JRPG standards. You could beat the PSX version in 15-20 hours without much difficulty.  Foot Member Mar 10, 2019 12,888 jungius said: my recommendation for those who are new to the game is to play on hard for sure, the original game is toddler level difficulty, im not even lying Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, easy mode must be pretty funny.   falcondoc Member Oct 29, 2017 7,894 Don't like the new background visuals, especially in cities… Still will probably get  Flipmenex Member Oct 27, 2017 2,273 I think someone said in the stream thread yesterday that the Event Timer thing might not be for time-gated quests, but for those few situations where you have an unseen timer to choose a reply / action, which makes a bit more sense. There's at least a big one that definitely made some people mad back in the day, and I don't recall if all duels had timers, so this is also a good option. Still hoping it also works for that certain quest though.  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 130,958 Flipmenex said: I think someone said in the stream thread yesterday that the Event Timer thing might not be for time-gated quests, but for those few situations where you have an unseen timer to choose a reply / action, which makes a bit more sense. There's at least a big one that definitely made some people mad back in the day, and I don't recall if all duels had timers, so this is also a good option. Still hoping it also works for that certain quest though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah. There are two MAJOR plot decisions in Suikoden II where you have barely a few seconds to respond before a decision is made for you. I THINK that's what this option is meant to resolve, not the time gating on Clive's quest. But I guess we'll have to see. "Event timer" is a very vague statement and the game doesn't really have any on-screen countdowns to hide from the player.  Light-Cloud Member Apr 3, 2021 202 Maybe I'm imagining it but I swear I remember the original announcement they showed how you could change the graphics to the original PS1 look but I haven't seen anything about that since. Is that still a thing? Was it ever a thing? I'd love to have both options   jungius Member Sep 5, 2021 3,420 Light-Cloud said: Maybe I'm imagining it but I swear I remember the original announcement they showed how you could change the graphics to the original PS1 look but I haven't seen anything about that since. Is that still a thing? Was it ever a thing? I'd love to have both options Click to expand... Click to shrink... never saw that being advertised tho  werezompire Zeboyd Games Verified Oct 26, 2017 14,638 On the question on whether you need to play the first game first, besides the first game being pretty good in its own right, there's a special sidequest in Suikoden 2 that is only unlocked if you use the Suikoden 1 data transfer.   Quinton Staff Writer at TheGamer Verified Oct 25, 2017 22,763 Midgar, With Love good title as others have said/will say, don't skip 1  PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 130,958 werezompire said: On the question on whether you need to play the first game first, besides the first game being pretty good in its own right, there's a special sidequest in Suikoden 2 that is only unlocked if you use the Suikoden 1 data transfer. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Right. While you don't NEED to play Suikoden I first, the original game is pretty goddamn short and the rewards in Suiko II for importing your save data are all pretty good. For example: weapon upgrades for characters who were in the first game carry over into the sequel.  Vincent Grayson Member Oct 27, 2017 7,155 Mount Airy, MD Hours Left said: Do you have to? No. Should you? Absolutely. Suikoden's most defining feature is the continuing story, themes and characters between instalments. There is no time gated recruit in either game, but Suikoden II has a time gated side quest that is purely just extra story. Though they just revealed in the livestream that you can turn off the time barrier for the side quest now and do it at your leisure. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thanks. It's been a long time since I played either of them, and I could swear I remembered it being a fast character or something and you had to get him in under so many hours, but I guess that's all it was.  ResinPeasant93 Member Apr 24, 2024 2,206 I'm not expecting too much of a new translation. I know they cleaned up the ellipses fest that the second game had and they may (and should) fix the actual errors and bugs in the original translation. But I'm also expecting South Window to remain South Window You also don't want to skip 1 so you can get Tir and Riou on the same team and break the game with their all enemy combo attack (certain restrictions apply - see rules for details)   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 130,958 Vincent Grayson said: Thanks. It's been a long time since I played either of them, and I could swear I remembered it being a fast character or something and you had to get him in under so many hours, but I guess that's all it was. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nah. To get Stallion (the series' recurring "fast guy" character) you just need to have run away from battles at least 50 times.  KujoJosuke Member Oct 25, 2017 8,546 I got my switch copy preordered on Amazon, and Greenmangaming has it 25% off for Steam so I ordered from them as well. So excited!   Yu Narukami Unshakable Resolve Member Oct 26, 2017 5,638 .   Last edited: Mar 4, 2025