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When you think "Nintendo's main villain" who comes to mind first between these two?
Jadow
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I don't mean who is most badass, or who is the most evil, just simply who pops into your mind first. For me I think Ganondorf slightly takes the edge over the Koopa King, mainly because he has something Bowser doesn't, and that is a recognizable theme music that just cements his presence regardless of whether he is in a scene or not.
NSESN
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Ganondorf. Bowser is a big character, but half of the time he isn't evil
Tsumami
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Bowser
TechnoSyndro
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Bowser is in more spin-off games than Ganondorf is in video games as a whole
carlsojo
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Ganondorf is the "serious" villain but Bowser is the real Nintendo bad guy.
Kinda like the Teen Titans movie where the cartoon Go! Trigon ate the "serious" Trigon. Bowser would just absorb Ganon's power.
Alternative answer is: Master Hand
ClearMetal
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Thought of Bowser before I even entered the thread (and was prepared to be disappointed to have it be between Ganon and Ridley, just to name two).
Burt
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NSESN said:
Ganondorf. Bowser is a big character, but half of the time he isn't evil
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Freezasaurus
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Jadow said:
mainly because he has something Bowser doesn't, and that is a recognizable theme music that just cements his presence regardless of whether he is in a scene or not.
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I honestly have no idea what Ganondorf's theme song is. I'd probably recognize it if I heard it, but it's a really odd metric to claim popularity by.
ozfunghi
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KamenRiderEra
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Bowser is in an educational video about good parenting lol. Ganon is Evil.
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eraFROMAN
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It's 100% Bowser
He's less evil and can appeal to all ages, he's bad guy #1 when it comes to Nintendo
Ganondorf is cool but he's also not as consistent, form or design (or attendance) wise
blueredandgold
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Their barber.
Zetta
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Bowser but its immediately followed with the thought of him being a good dad.
Lord Vatek
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Bruh, come on. Bowser doesn't have a recognizable theme song?
View: https://youtu.be/bq_jS6o3OoY
404LinkNotFound
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KamenRiderEra said:
Bowser is in an educational video about good parenting lol. Ganon is Evil.
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Tbf plenty of awful people can be nice to a few select persons
The Unsent
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Nintendo's darkest monstrosity was the Gameboy Advance screen.
jitteryzeitgeist
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Nuclear bomb va coughing baby.
Bowser all day.
DeadeyeNull
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Ganon genuinely hit my brain first but I think if you didn't include the word "main" it might've been Bowser. Mario doesn't have really have other memorable villains aside from browser, so the inclusion of the word main is superfluous
jitteryzeitgeist
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Zetta said:
Bowser but its immediately followed with the thought of him being a good dad.
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Just because bad guy does not mean bad guy
Ry.
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Bowser doesn't really feel like a villain anymore, more like he's just the jealous annoying guy who wants to be part of the action.
Gannondorf however is nasty through and through.
Kewlmyc
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Bowser easy
Even if he isn't even "evil" in half the Mario games. He's still the one who is the most well known to the public.
Khanimus
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Bowser's closer to mascot villain, but he's just a goof. Like he's Pete from Mickey Mouse. Yeah he's the bad guy but not like anyone takes him seriously.
Ganon has like... Done some shit.
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Jadow
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Lord Vatek said:
Bruh, come on. Bowser doesn't have a recognizable theme song?
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Which he used a total of one time, don't get me wrong, I love his themes in Galaxy 1/2, but Ganondorf's theme is just instantly recognizable to me
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeF5y9OjFUI
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Regiruler
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Insane poll engagement.
Ganondorf came first. Maybe because I encountered the thread reading era, which means to talk a little bit more about Zelda than Mario.
Freezasaurus
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Khanimus said:
Bowser's closer to mascot villain, but he's just a goof. Like he's Pete from Mickey Mouse. Yeah he's the bad guy but not like anyone takes him seriously.
Ganon has like... Done some shit.
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I don't even think this is a question of "evil" or malicious intent. It's just who's the more recognizable villain in the Nintendo family. And that's Bowser, no question.
madstarr12
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That old Ganon is no match for the King [Bowser].
Blackleg-sanji1
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Bowser but ima keep it a buck my second one cuz of my bias and taste, I'd think about is king dededee
HardRojo
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Bowser lol. Objectively that's the right answer. Mario is Nintendo, Bowser is Nintendo. TLoZ is a Nintendo IP.
Lord Vatek
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Jadow said:
Which he used a total of one time, don't get me wrong, I love his themes in Galaxy 1/2, but Ganondorf's theme is just instantly recognizable to me
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeF5y9OjFUI
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Oh my bad that was the wrong one.
View: https://youtu.be/3WnQBZ6idbU
This is what I meant.
Chie Satonaka
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NSESN said:
Ganondorf. Bowser is a big character, but half of the time he isn't evil
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This is what I thought too, but apparently people disagree.
NeonZ
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I like Ganondorf more, but if you just say "Nintendo main villain"... yeah, I'm going to think about Bowser.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLkh8IlaiPE
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Zeal543
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ganondorf (the ganon version people care about) isn't even in most major zelda games
Vidiot
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As much of as I love Zelda when you say Nintendo the first thought is Mario. So Nintendo's main villain is naturally going to bring Bowser to mind. Hell you could just say video game villain and I'm pretty sure most people's first thought will be Bowser.
Sacul64
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Ry. said:
Bowser doesn't really feel like a villain anymore, more like he's just the jealous annoying guy who wants to be part of the action.
Gannondorf however is nasty through and through.
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This, they even had Gannondorf in tears get an onscreen body count
FantasticToma
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Ganondorf, because Bowser is as much a villain now as Piccolo was in DBZ.
Lotus
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Blackleg-sanji1 said:
Bowser but ima keep it a buck my second one cuz of my bias and taste, I'd think about is king dededee
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He's a villain... in Smash
Marvie
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Bowser is the easy answer
Lotus
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There's no way to argue it's anyone other than Bowser, him being a goof or teaming up every now and then doesn't change that
Jbone115
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Bowser is probably the single most iconic villain in all of gaming. This is an unfair comparison lol
Lord Vatek
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People saying "Bowser isn't a villain anymore" are crazy.
They have not yet made a mainline Mario platformer without him as the main antagonist.
Get off the RPG spin-off gas.
strife85
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Bowser. He's a much more awesome character too.
Serene
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"who is more evil" is a very different question from "who is the main villain"
so I'm not sure why Ganon's actions vs. Bowser are relevant to the question
PAFenix
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Ganondorf is the one issuing the orders so.......
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SupersonicHypertonic
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Bowser is a villain but half the time he's goofy or even helping Mario.
Ganondorf is the villain of Nintendo. He's a generational hater who has killed scores, enslaved races, caused apocalypses, and even won a few times.
But if we're taking just being iconic then Bowser
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Blackleg-sanji1
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Lotus said:
He's a villain... in Smash
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He kinda basically turned into how bowser is nowadays working with them cuz of a bigger threat.
Either way #1 is undisputedly the turtle for me
Tsumami
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lot of people are saying bowser isn't really that evil but I think he's pretty evil. him being goofy or in spinoffs does not prevent him from being evil. I mean in the movie he literally wanted to kill people by caging them and lowering them into lava. He's a bad guy, just a funny bad guy.
RochHoch
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How many Mario games don't have Bowser? Is it just SMB2 (which technically isn't even a Mario game) and Super Mario Land? He's an absolute staple of Nintendo's flagship IP
Meanwhile, Zelda can manage without Ganon, like Majora's Mask, Skyward Sword, Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks
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