DriftingSpirit Member Oct 25, 2017 18,465 View: https://youtu.be/dXVdHpGy5II?si=e4My6OK-BACC5aL0 "It's got all of the modern features: ray tracing support, mesh shaders, everything that a 30 series class Nvidia card...this can do, just with a much lower level of overall performance." Click to expand... Click to shrink... "So overall, I think the Switch 2 is doing a pretty great job of turning in PS4 level visuals. Again, possibly, with other upgrades and loading times...other upgrades when it comes to more modern titles that are pushing out more advanced rendering technologies...I think that's probably what you can expect is a PS4 level experience" Click to expand... Click to shrink... FF7 Remake: The presentation is PS4 levels or there abouts. So broadly speaking quite comparable to PS4 if not actually a bit more of a favorable experience compared to PS4 Click to expand... Click to shrink...   Infomercial Member Aug 22, 2020 99 That has always been the expectation.   Lant_War Classic Anus Game The Fallen Jul 14, 2018 25,034 I would like to see the PS4 running Star Wars Outlaws   Renna Hazel Member Oct 27, 2017 12,914 Lant_War said: I would like to see the PS4 running Star Wars Outlaws Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'd like to see Switch 2 running it as well.   Diogo Arez One Winged Slayer Member Oct 20, 2020 20,011 I mean yeah that was around the expected level   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,463 the switch2 is a 3050 yeah   Porygon One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 4,607 Mexicali Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty Final Fantasy VII Intergrade Star Wars Outlaws already mentioned Above PS4, Digital Foundry pls  Magic-Man Member Feb 5, 2019 11,528 Epic Universe Then how do we explain Cyberpunk? It runs far better than the PS4 versions of the game, and that's without even getting into Phantom Liberty.   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 33,381 Lant_War said: I would like to see the PS4 running Star Wars Outlaws Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well, there were some ppl that said the PS4 could run Rift Apart so.... I guess with enough compromises X game can run on [insert console here] I dont see the problem?  Lightsong Member Nov 11, 2022 8,855 Pretty conservative assessment.   Besiktas Member Sep 2, 2024 793 Nah Switch 2 is way better than both ps4 and ps4 pro. Actual game performances doesn't determined by some random metrics   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,706 PS4 visuals, but the CPU is leagues beyond the Jaguar CPU of the PS4/XBO   Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,413 Magic-Man said: Then how do we explain Cyberpunk? It runs far better than the PS4 versions of the game, and that's without even getting into Phantom Liberty. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Cyberpunk is not that demanding on PC at least. The launch was a disaster for bugs and lack of optimization   9-Volt Member Oct 27, 2017 13,717 Porygon said: Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty Final Fantasy VII Intergrade Star Wars Outlaws already mentioned Above PS4, Digital Foundry pls Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also Borderlands 4 and James Bond project. It's obvious that they're gearing up Switch 2 be a portable PS5 right from the start. IN TERMS OF THIRD PARTY SUPPORT!   Last edited: Today at 6:33 PM DarkJ Member Nov 11, 2017 1,782 Looking at what a base PS4 can do, that would be great in a handheld. FF7R, RDR2, Death Stranding, LoU2, so many beautiful games that hold up visually. If it gets beyond that, that would be icing on the cake.   GPU Member Oct 10, 2024 782 Magic-Man said: Then how do we explain Cyberpunk? It runs far better than the PS4 versions of the game, and that's without even getting into Phantom Liberty. Click to expand... Click to shrink... More to do with the high speed storage on Switch 2 then its processing power. A SSD was added to the min spec for Phantom liberty.  Audiblee Member Mar 14, 2025 629 I loved my PS4, but I don't recall a lot of AAA 120fps games made by Sony.   MacheteSquadSteve Member Jan 6, 2025 165 But what about (games DF has already looked at), huh?   Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 1,847 I think in most ways it's more like Series S than PS4. I mean load times are very important among other things.   Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,413 Audiblee said: I loved my PS4, but I don't recall a lot of AAA 120fps games made by Sony. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Bcause they have different goals, Nintendo also isn't making a game with TLOU II level of fidelity   Culex Member Oct 29, 2017 8,932 I think PS4 Pro is a good comparison. A true portable PS4 level machine is really something to behold right now.   Rickyrozay2o9 Member Dec 11, 2017 6,354 If I can get ps4 visuals in handheld mode, that's good enough for me, although I imagine CPU should give better performance stability than the ps4.   Fossora Member Jun 14, 2023 2,190 9-Volt said: Also Borderlands 4 and James Bond project. It's obvious that they're gearing up Switch 2 be a portable PS5 right from the start. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It is absolutely not a portable PS5. it has some similar feature capabilitys like frame generation/ray-tracing, but it is leagues behind the PS5 in terms of performance. We'll have to see how long the third party AAA sentiment lasts as well.  papertowel Member Nov 6, 2017 2,241 They say PS4 level visuals with more modern hardware which makes it more capable in some aspects. Don't confuse that and think they're saying its just a PS4.   Culex Member Oct 29, 2017 8,932 Rosebud said: Bcause they have different goals, Nintendo also isn't making a game with TLOU II level of fidelity Click to expand... Click to shrink... Monolith Soft - "Challenge, accepted".  falcondoc Member Oct 29, 2017 7,897 It's better, but that's what you would expect DF to say   logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,048 Audiblee said: I loved my PS4, but I don't recall a lot of AAA 120fps games made by Sony. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Just because you didn't see them doesn't mean they weren't possible. Also, you will not be seeing a lot of AAA 120fps Switch 2 games either. Definitely not from third parties. Culex said: Monolith Soft - "Challenge, accepted". Click to expand... Click to shrink... I would love to see this but my bet is that Monolith will focus on fidelity.   Firmus_Anguis AVALANCHE Member Oct 30, 2017 8,259 It's a goddamn handheld, for crying out loud! PS4 level is still pretty impressive. People expecting it to compete with even the Seres S were deluding themselves (heck, some were expecting PS5 visuals!) I can see Switch 2 games being much more optimized for the hardware than the Series S, though (due to the popularity of the hardware). But man, I still don't get it. You don't buy a Switch/Nintendo console for cutting edge stuff anymore. You buy it for the great library of games that will be available on the system! It's still a gigantic leap compared to Switch 1!  Mandos Member Nov 27, 2017 38,291 jroc74 said: Well, there were some ppl that said the PS4 could run Rift Apart so.... I guess with enough compromises X game can run on [insert console here] I dont see the problem? Click to expand... Click to shrink... …forgive me if I'm misremembering but wasn't that game a showcase of transfer speeds over processing speeds(something that the switch 2 has at similar levels in fact )   ProdigyZA Member Jun 9, 2024 1,276 papertowel said: They say PS4 level visuals with more modern hardware which makes it more capable in some aspects. Don't confuse that and think they're saying its just a PS4. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, the headline feels misleading, seems like they are saying ps4 as a baseline but due to all the new advancements it goes beyond that in many aspects, thanks to dlss, raytracing etc...   Uzupedro Member May 16, 2020 13,574 Rio de Janeiro Culex said: Monolith Soft - "Challenge, accepted". Click to expand... Click to shrink...   ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,002 PS4 is impressive for a handheld with some extra bells and whistles   Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,413 Firmus_Anguis said: PS4 level is still pretty impressive. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's very impressive, I think people are forgetting the kind of games we had on PS4 View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRhzFqA1f7o View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btmN-bWwv0A   Lifejumper #1 Celtics fan / #7 Serbia fan Member Oct 25, 2017 29,314 Firmus_Anguis said: It's a goddamn handheld, for crying out loud! PS4 level is still pretty impressive. People expecting it to compete with even the Seres S were deluding themselves (heck, some were expecting PS5 visuals!) I can see Switch 2 games being much more optimized for the hardware than the Series S, though (due to the popularity of the hardware). But man, I still don't get it. You don't buy a Switch/Nintendo console for cutting edge stuff anymore. You buy it for the great library of games that will be available on the system! It's still a gigantic leap compared to Switch 1! Click to expand... Click to shrink... It probably peeps who have not been in the Nintendo eco system for a while that are complaining about horsepower of the Switch 2.   Conan Member Oct 25, 2017 701 PS4 with some updated modern hardware features is great, nothing wrong with that. Going from gameboy to something that could potentially run something that looks like tlou2 in my lifetime is insane.  Last edited: Today at 7:04 PM Diogo Arez One Winged Slayer Member Oct 20, 2020 20,011 Audiblee said: I loved my PS4, but I don't recall a lot of AAA 120fps games made by Sony. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Uh because PS4 didn't have an HDMI port compatible with 120hz, for sure some indies might have ran at that if possible tbh   Krapaw_Enjoyer Member Aug 28, 2024 540 It's like a ps4 but with raytracing and dlss. So not like a ps4?  9-Volt Member Oct 27, 2017 13,717 Fossora said: It is absolutely not a portable PS5. it has some similar feature capabilitys like frame generation/ray-tracing, but it is leagues behind the PS5 in terms of performance. We'll have to see how long the third party AAA sentiment lasts as well. Click to expand... Click to shrink... In terms of games, not performance. It'll get more and more PS5-gen only ports, SW Outlaws and Borderlands 4 are just a start. Unlike Switch 1, there are not many games out there for Switch 2 to have late ports of. Day-and-date future.   nogoodnamesleft Member Oct 25, 2017 8,457 9-Volt said: Also Borderlands 4 and James Bond project. It's obvious that they're gearing up Switch 2 be a portable PS5 right from the start. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Portable ps5? Come on now era you're better than this  logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,048 Krapaw_Enjoyer said: It's like a ps4 but with raytracing and dlss. So not like a ps4? Click to expand... Click to shrink... They mention this in the video. It is like PS4 but with modern render techniques so it will punch above its weight.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,609 Didnt we already have the same thread based on the DF Preview ? Or is this a new take based on an actual hands on ?  Decarb Member Oct 27, 2017 9,183 PS4 raster boosted by modern features, architecture and RT/tensor cores is about what I expected.   Jarmel The Jackrabbit Always Wins Member Oct 25, 2017 22,328 New York Seems like it would be closer to a PS4 Pro then base PS4.   9-Volt Member Oct 27, 2017 13,717 nogoodnamesleft said: Portable ps5? Come on now era you're better than this Click to expand... Click to shrink... Check my above post. I should edit that post...   jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 33,381 papertowel said: They say PS4 level visuals with more modern hardware which makes it more capable in some aspects. Don't confuse that and think they're saying its just a PS4. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I dont think anyone honestly thinks its at "just a PS4" level. What seems to be the hot debate is how much more capable it is. Seeing someone say PS5 portable is wild, lol. I've seen games comparisons where its not even close to a Series S. I've seen comparisons where its similar to a Series S. Expectations continue to be all over the place. MacheteSquadSteve said: But what about (games DF has already looked at), huh? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Basically, lol.  SupersonicHypertonic Member Apr 20, 2022 3,339 Eh NS2 is running cyberpunk without crashing or dying or any 4k games so it's clearly a decent bit above PS4.   ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,116 Midgar Fossora said: It is absolutely not a portable PS5. it has some similar feature capabilitys like frame generation/ray-tracing, but it is leagues behind the PS5 in terms of performance. We'll have to see how long the third party AAA sentiment lasts as well. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Exactly. Otherwise FFVII Remake would be 60fps.   ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,002 Rosebud said: It's very impressive, I think people are forgetting the kind of games we had on PS4 View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRhzFqA1f7o View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Wnvvj33Wo Click to expand... Click to shrink... exactly, PS4 had some absolutely phenomenal looking games.  Elyian Member Feb 7, 2018 3,414 Not only is that fantastic to hear, but it's also good to remember that this'll have a better CPU and current gen bells and whistles to boot. Honestly, it seems like a very impressive piece of hardware, i'm very excited to see how Nintendo specifically utilizes all this extra horsepower.   Fossora Member Jun 14, 2023 2,190 9-Volt said: In terms of games, not performance. It'll get more and more PS5-gen only ports, SW Outlaws and Borderlands 4 are just a start. Unlike Switch 1, there are not many games out there for Switch 2 to have late ports of. Day-and-date future. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I hope you're right. That would be a great thing for Switch 2 owners.