mazi picross or it didn't happen Member Oct 5, 2024 621 ‘We never give up’: Remaster kings Nightdive on saving gaming’s past | VGC The Atari studio discusses the challenges ahead, and past regrets… www.videogameschronicle.com Before we kick off, as a fan, I have to ask: What happened with your proposed GoldenEye 007 remaster? Stephen Kick: Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a real heartbreak, just because we had put in a lot of effort into pitching that. We had a dream team all set up, and we got by the MGM/Eon side of things. That took a year. And then it was: "Ok, we're ready to go." "Well, did you guys get the rights from Nintendo?" "Wait a minute, we thought you had that." And then Nintendo was like, "yeah, no third party's ever going to touch any Nintendo stuff, ever". Click to expand... Click to shrink... Have you guys tried to work with Nintendo in the past? Larry Kuperman: Well, oddly enough, we were the very first company to have an N64 game on the Nintendo Switch with Turok, so that got their attention right away. But it didn't really lead to a partnership or anything. I think that they have – and I'm going to be a little bit more fair than Steve is – a very successful business philosophy that's worked well for them. That said, it's very hard for them to deviate from that. It's very hard for them to make an exception. And I don't know whether they knew that it was going to – how should I put this politically correctly – that it was going to leave something to be desired in there. What they put out was kind of minimal. And I'm trying to be fair about it, but I don't think that they could say, "well, we're going to make an exception". Click to expand... Click to shrink...   LordHuffnPuff Doctor Videogames at Allfather Productions Verified Oct 25, 2017 3,086 webernet yeah, no third party's ever going to touch any Nintendo stuff, ever Click to expand... Click to shrink...   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,018 LordHuffnPuff said: I think they mean third parties are never going to be allowed to remake/remaster Nintendo's own games without Nintendo's own involvement. They're fine with projects where THEY hire a company to work on one of their IP.  Renna Hazel Member Oct 27, 2017 12,924 Goldeneye should be the exception to this silly rule.   OP OP mazi picross or it didn't happen Member Oct 5, 2024 621 LordHuffnPuff said: nintendo still published that outside japan, no? and either way it was a switch only game. i assume the proposed remaster was going to come to PC at least and most likely other consoles too.   cw_sasuke Member Oct 27, 2017 29,646 They probably should have tried to convince Nintendo first and then go to the other parties, since that is the more difficult nut to crack. If you can convince Nintendo everything else is probably easy mode lol.  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,202 Ibis Island Renna Hazel said: Goldeneye should be the exception to this silly rule. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Really should be since Nintendo can never do anything with the game without the other 2 parts anyway  AuthenticM Son Altesse Sérénissime The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 34,778 That's a bummer, even if expected.   L Thammy Spacenoid Member Oct 25, 2017 54,402 Having never watched James Bond and having barely played Goldeneye, I'm mostly leaving this amused by the idea that they didn't realize that they had to contact the publisher of the game they wanted to remake.   Atom Member Jul 25, 2021 15,039 Thank you Nintendo, saving us from nice things as always. It is interesting that they're okay with things like FF4 or Baten Kaitos or even finding agreements for things like TW101 but this was an issue though. Maybe this was just much longer ago.  GPU Member Oct 10, 2024 789 Make me wonder what deal had to happen to get it on Xbox.   Jaded Alyx Editor-in-chief at SpecialCancel.com Verified Oct 25, 2017 39,637 That quote is a bit odd. I guess I don't understand how these nightdive remasters work. Are they licensing the game? What's the difference between Nintendo hiring Tantalus to remaster twilight princess (and skyward sword and Luigi's mansion 2) and allowing nightdive to remaster golden eye? Would they not be supervising nightdive? Would nightdive not be compensated in a similar fashion? Or is it that Nintendo just didn't want to do it?  Merc_ ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 28, 2017 7,446 Atom said: Thank you Nintendo, saving us from nice things as always. It is interesting that they're okay with things like FF4 or Baten Kaitos or even finding agreements for things like TW101 but this was an issue though. Maybe this was just much longer ago. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think it's more that the games you mention there involve companies that have a long and strong relationship with Nintendo.   Dyle One Winged Slayer The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 32,669 That seems like a weird takeaway when Nintendo has contracted numerous third party companies with which they had no previous relation to remake or rerelease old games this generation. Famicom Detective Club, Advance Wars, and Another Code R all fit that exact description. I'm sure they could have made something work if they were not already working on getting Goldeneye for NSO, which would have naturally taken priority for them.  Santar Member Oct 27, 2017 6,999 Norway Don't have any strong feelings about this. The game was "remastered" on xbox and switch and this would've probably just been similar to that. The actual remake from the 360 would've been a lot more interesting to get released instead of just another remaster.  Huey Member Oct 27, 2017 15,532 There's actually a lot of nice stuff in that interview in general. Hopefully people read the whole thing and don't just walk away from this with the Goldeneye thing. Finding out PO'ed was profitable in the first week is just such excellent news - makes me very hopefully about the security and future of the studio, that this is super sustainable, and we'll be getting NightDive remasters many years into the future, hopefully still with lots of deep cuts thrown in the mix.  Sumio Mondo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,640 United Kingdom My formal request to them is a remaster for The Darkness, since they mentioned the 360/PS3 at the end of the interview. That game is a fantastic cult classic videogame of that era. Would love to play it again. Such an atmospheric game. Atom said: Thank you Nintendo, saving us from nice things as always. It is interesting that they're okay with things like FF4 or Baten Kaitos or even finding agreements for things like TW101 but this was an issue though. Maybe this was just much longer ago. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fatal Frame 4 is certainly an intriguing one since that one was made between 3 parties originally, Grasshopper Manufacture, Tecmo (the original devs) and Nintendo themselves even had a hand in it (Makoto Shibata the series director once said it was 3 directors arguing about the game at one point with him, a Nintendo director and Suda51 lol), yet it was ported everywhere when it got remastered (same for Fatal Frame 5), which makes me think they (Koei Tecmo) could do the same for Fatal Frame 2 Wiimake too..  henlo_birb Member Dec 15, 2017 1,911 issuing correction on a previous post of mine regarding the terror group Nintendo. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"   CO_Andy Member Oct 25, 2017 2,871 Nintendo canning the nearly finished Goldeneye XBLA remaster still stings to this day.   Typhon Member Oct 25, 2017 6,596 GPU said: Make me wonder what deal had to happen to get it on Xbox. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Probably just getting Rare games on NSO.  Amnixia ▲ Legend ▲ The Fallen Jan 25, 2018 11,662 The real headline here is them not actually checking who they need to contact. I laughed at the "did you guys get the rights from Nintendo" bit so hard my neighbors definitely heard me.  PucePikmin Member Apr 26, 2018 5,159 Well, yeah, no duh guys -- finding out if Nintendo was at all interested should have been priority 1 before doing a year of work on your pitch.   Seik Member Jan 5, 2023 3,558 Québec City If anyone could've gracefully handled it, it was Nightdive. What a fucking shame.