RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,321 Seems like VRR won't be supported on TVs after all, pretty disappointing. That would mean you only get VRR while playing in portable They removed it from the Canada and US site, you can check below if you want but I've also provided screenshots Nintendo Switch 2: System Features and Play Modes - Nintendo US The next evolution of the Nintendo Switch system is here! Discover how features like GameChat, Joy-Con 2, 4K support, HDR, VRR, and more can bring your games to life. www.nintendo.com Nintendo Switch 2: System Features and Play Modes - Nintendo CA The next evolution of the Nintendo Switch system is here! Discover how features like GameChat, Joy-Con 2, 4K support, HDR, VRR, and more can bring your games to life. www.nintendo.com Before: After:   Joule Member Nov 19, 2017 4,883 WTF   darkwing Corrupted by Vengeance Member Oct 25, 2017 17,873 maybe they will add it in later?   Mass Effect One Winged Slayer Member Oct 31, 2017 18,984 Please don't be true. I hope this is a mistake, cause if any console needs VRR, it's Switch 2.  Dal Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 18, 2024 2,081 You'd think they'd have tested that thoroughly before putting it on their website? Their communication this time around has been dreadful.  Lightsong Member Nov 11, 2022 8,918 Isn't Cyberpunk literally coming with a 40FPS mode? I doubt that would happen if this only applied to handheld play. Also: How are people even finding all this stuff?  LetalisAmare Member Oct 27, 2017 4,306 They're really doing their best to kill my hype for this.   AaronMT Member Oct 27, 2017 8,128 Toronto   RayCharlizard Member Nov 2, 2017 4,288 Give Nintendo a break people, they've never launched a console before.   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 40,981 Washington, D.C. Lightsong said: Isn't Cyberpunk literally coming with a 40FPS mode? I doubt that would happen if this only applied to handheld play. Also: How are people even finding all this stuff? Click to expand... Click to shrink... 40fps needs 120hz, not vrr, if I recall   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,321 Lightsong said: Isn't Cyberpunk literally coming with a 40FPS mode? I doubt that would happen if this only applied to handheld play. Also: How are people even finding all this stuff? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I saw this via Fami. Maybe people are just curiously browsing sites and notice changes like this idk lol The 40 FPS would still work via a 120Hz container btw, that doesn't need VRR to function  Kemal86 Member Oct 25, 2017 4,020 oh fuck this   Lightsong Member Nov 11, 2022 8,918 Transistor said: 40fps needs 120hz, not vrr, if I recall Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh right, my mistake! VRR was to smoothen unstable framerates, right?   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,321 Transistor said: 40fps needs 120hz, not vrr, if I recall Click to expand... Click to shrink... U beat me by one second lol   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 40,981 Washington, D.C. Lightsong said: Oh right, my mistake! VRR was to smoothen unstable framerates, right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yep yep RandomlyRandom67 said: U beat me by one second lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... gottagofast.gyf  NCartwright15 Member Dec 5, 2017 179 It still mentions VRR for handheld, so shouldn't it still be usable in TV mode?   Mezoly Jimbo Replacement Member Oct 25, 2017 5,206 I hope this is just wrong. VRR docked was one of the major tech surprises Nintendo announced. if it's gone that's a huge bummer.   Mattmo831 Featuring Mattmo831 from the Apple v Epic case Member Oct 26, 2020 6,370 No VRR docked wtfffff   Gestault Member Oct 26, 2017 14,554 Unless sometime basic was missed in planning, even if there were a problem, something like this can most likely be addressed with software/firmware updates. I'm guessing they just don't want to over-promise if they're aware of a snag.   KanjoBazooie ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 26, 2017 32,358 Chicago im officially confused   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,321 NCartwright15 said: It still mentions VRR for handheld, so shouldn't it still be usable in TV mode? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It wouldn't mean that, no. The screen is being driven by the native DP 1.4 connection with G-Sync, while the HDMI output for TV goes through a DP to HDMI converter chip. So that could potentially explain why docked might not have VRR   logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,094 That's a big hit. I wonder why this would be the case? Doesn't HDMI 2.0 support it? And so does ampere right?   SP. Member Oct 27, 2017 8,278 lmao   Radd Redd Member Oct 27, 2017 10,368 But why🤔   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 40,981 Washington, D.C. logash said: That's a big hit. I wonder why this would be the case? Doesn't HDMI 2.0 support it? And so does ampere right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... HDMI 2.0 supports freesync, not native HDMI VRR. That wasn't until 2.1. and if I recall, Nvidia cards that had 2.0 and not 2.1 only did vrr via g-sync over DisplayPort, they didn't do freesync over HDMI. It's been awhile since I've owned one of those cards so I might be misremembering.  Kenny_Blankenship Member Jun 1, 2023 2,285 I thought they were meant to have spent extra time getting this launch ready; they don't seem to have spent much time making sure marketing material was clear and concise.   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,321 logash said: That's a big hit. I wonder why this would be the case? Doesn't HDMI 2.0 support it? And so does ampere right? Click to expand... Click to shrink... They are converting a DisplayPort signal to an HDMI signal, so that could explain the issue. The actual screen on the console is driven by the DisplayPort signal (I think this is an HDMI 2.1 console)  Aminga Member Oct 27, 2017 967 Not loving it   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 40,981 Washington, D.C. RandomlyRandom67 said: I think this is an HDMI 2.1 console Click to expand... Click to shrink... If the dock does have HDMI 2.1, there is zero reason it can't support vrr   OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,321 Transistor said: If the dock does have HDMI 2.1, there is zero reason it can't support vrr Click to expand... Click to shrink... Well I know the converter chip they're using supports it, but the converter chip they're using also doesn't have a stellar track record in other products The Intel Arc Alchemist GPUs also used a nearly identical Realtek chip and they had all sorts of issues with their "HDMI 2.1" ports My guess is Nintendo needs to go through further certification and improve the drivers  GSR Member Oct 25, 2017 1,869 Hmmm. Hopefully it's just a bug that they'll fix post launch, but if it has no VRR support docked that's a really big bummer. I expect that like the Switch 1 we're going to see lots of unlocked frame rates later in the console's lifecycle.   Quinton Staff Writer at TheGamer Verified Oct 25, 2017 22,834 Midgar, With Love I can't say I care in the slightest here but the switch-up (heh) on info is pretty bizarre to be sure   Maple Member Oct 27, 2017 12,625 This would be a massive deal breaker. And it doesn't even make sense.   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 40,981 Washington, D.C. RandomlyRandom67 said: Well I know the converter chip they're using supports it, but the converter chip they're using also doesn't have a stellar track record in other products The Intel Arc Alchemist GPUs also used a nearly identical Realtek chip and they had all sorts of issues with their "HDMI 2.1" ports My guess is Nintendo needs to go through further certification and improve the drivers Click to expand... Click to shrink... It really makes you wonder why they just didn't use standard USB-C DisplayPort and stuff like that. I mean, we all know why, so you couldn't buy third-party docks, but still...   logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,094 Transistor said: HDMI 2.0 supports freesync, not native HDMI VRR. That wasn't until 2.1. and if I recall, Nvidia cards that had 2.0 and not 2.1 only did vrr via g-sync over DisplayPort, they didn't do freesync over HDMI. It's been awhile since I've owned one of those cards so I might be misremembering. Click to expand... Click to shrink... RandomlyRandom67 said: They are converting a DisplayPort signal to an HDMI signal, so that could explain the issue. The actual screen on the console is driven by the DisplayPort signal (I think this is an HDMI 2.1 console) Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's a shame. VRR has been such a great feature on my PC and PS5. Also, pretty sure HDMI 2.1 supports 4k 120fps. I figured it was 2.0 since it only supports 4k 60fps.  That Naive Cube!! Member Oct 25, 2017 3,937 PS5 didn't launch with this either and it got resolved later. Hopefully this gets sorted though I plan to play predominantly in handheld mode.   Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 40,981 Washington, D.C. logash said: That's a shame. VRR has been such a great feature on my PC and PS5. Also, pretty sure HDMI 2.1 supports 4k 120fps. I figured it was 2.0 since it only supports 4k 60fps. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Someone mentioned to me in another thread that you can do 4K 120 with 4:2:0 on HDMI 2.0 (and now I feel bad because I meant to respond to them and never did lol). Although I might be misremembering that too, it's been a long fucking week lol. Honestly, will probably just have to wait till it's in the hand of tech reviewers before we really know  Derkon Member Oct 25, 2017 3,450 What is going on with this console   Instro Member Oct 25, 2017 16,806 What is/was on the JP site?   Jaypeg Member Feb 10, 2023 96 This console launch is deflating fast   RPGsandFGCs Member Jun 30, 2024 702 California It's gonna be like bluetooth audio in the Switch 1 and get randomly added in a system update 4.5 years after launch   Rowsdower Shinra Employee of The Wise Ones Avenger Oct 27, 2017 19,550 Canada Hopefully it's like with the PS5 where it didn't support it at first but they patched it in later. Sucks though, VRR is a godsend playing on TV.  Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,357 Would be a weird mistake to make, maybe it's not quite ready yet ?   cubicle47b Member Aug 9, 2019 913 I still see it on Nintendo's site here: https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Hard...ch-2-More-details-about-features-2790188.html I wouldn't freak out because a marketing page changed. Someone at one of the major game sites should reach out to Nintendo for clarification.  Baby Bird Member Nov 5, 2017 1,730 WTF Nintendo. Honestly, it would have been much better they did not market it for portable play if they cannot guarantee it to also work on TV.   MadraptorMan Member Oct 27, 2017 1,071 Niigata, Japan Hopefully it's still actually supported, but if not, goodbye smooth 40 fps "balanced" modes...   Jencks Member Oct 25, 2017 9,090 We lost   Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 92,771 Houston, TX Now I'm officially confused, why support it for only handheld but not docked? cubicle47b said: I still see it on Nintendo's site here: https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Hard...ch-2-More-details-about-features-2790188.html I wouldn't freak out because a marketing page changed. Someone at one of the major game sites should reach out to Nintendo for clarification. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's only a matter of time before it's removed there as well.   Xtortion One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 7,447 United States MadraptorMan said: Hopefully it's still actually supported, but if not, goodbye smooth 40 fps "balanced" modes... Click to expand... Click to shrink... 40fps is only dependent on 120hz output, not VRR  ezidro3 Member May 31, 2021 670 cubicle47b said: I still see it on Nintendo's site here: https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Hard...ch-2-More-details-about-features-2790188.html I wouldn't freak out because a marketing page changed. Someone at one of the major game sites should reach out to Nintendo for clarification. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Wonder if this is in the middle of being changed? See how the little disclaimer after the VRR mention only has HDR and 120fps, like the new disclaimer does on the US/CAN websites