tgrfawcett Member Oct 25, 2017 795 Utah Welcome to the controversial gaming opinions thread! Just a couple notes before people jump into the discussion, please be respectful of other thoughts, disagreeing with the mainstream consensus is kind of the point here. Next, don't be afraid to argue your case, see if you can win a few hearts and minds to your side. Don't be afraid to be verbose and engage with the main lines of thought going on throughout the thread. With that all said go ahead and get into your hot takes, your cold takes, and the controversial gaming opinions you have and the reasons behind them?​ I will kick things off with a controversial take that is growing less so as the years go on: Bioshock 2 is the best of the series thus far. It builds on everything the first did better without trying to copy its dramatic twist. Instead, it dives further into the philosophy of the world of Rapture and explores a new cast of characters with a lot to say. Also, the gameplay is a fantastic improvement on the original. Bioshock 2 is a certified best game.  Last edited: Nov 8, 2023 Dr. Benton Quest Resettlement Advisor Member Oct 25, 2017 3,758 Bloodborne isn't in the same genre as other souls games. Because of this, 'soulsborne' is a misnomer.  digitalrelic Weight Loss Champion 2018: Biggest Change Banned Oct 25, 2017 13,124 I think Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece. I also think Dragon's Dogma is highly overrated.  MattB Pokémon Master Uncle Works at Nintendo Avenger Oct 25, 2017 3,703 I don't think melee is the best smash game. Not even second.   Jawbreaker Member Oct 25, 2017 8,960 New York City Mario Kart 8's soundtrack is merely OK.   Deleted member 5148 User requested account closure Member Oct 25, 2017 2,108 The lasut of us is not better than resident evil 6.   Avatar Korra Member Oct 25, 2017 274 Persona 5 is not very good. While Persona 5's gameplay, and technical aspects are all superior - the game still falls short of its predecessors. The story goes on too long. Characters have weak arcs that are underwritten. The outdated Activity/skill system collapses in on itself by the back half of the game. The dating system is still poor. The group doesn't feel as connected (the game lacks group moments that bring them together). By the 5th dungeon, I was actually feeling bored. And persona 4 is my fav game of all time.  Last edited: Oct 25, 2017 KZXcellent One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 4,146 The best Dark Souls game is 2 with 3 following closely behind it.   RowdyReverb Member Oct 25, 2017 6,203 Austin, TX digitalrelic said: I think Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece. I also think Dragon's Dogma is highly overrated. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I really loved Bioshock Infinite. I need to pick up Bioshock Collection and replay it, but I've heard there are performance issues. Maybe when I get a Xbox One X   Tsuyu Member Oct 25, 2017 6,499 I do not like "role-playing" elements in rpg if the NPC can't read my actual facial expressions real time. I have a way with micro-expressions mixing up with the conventional standard and hence it's fun for me. That's why I prefer a strict, well-defined system than an open one.  THE RABID MOOSE Member Oct 25, 2017 1,561 Wolfenstein the New Order was a mediocre game with tonal inconsistencies from serious post WWII shooter to funny satire. The New Colussus looks great though  cvbas Member Oct 25, 2017 4,994 Brazil Loot boxes are not that bad. If they are cosmetic only and help to fund free gameplay content (see Overwatch, PUBG) I'm A-OK with them. The only problem is if they make the game somehow unbalanced, but so far I've seen very few games doing this. Just like DLC and season passes before, there is a massive overreaction because it's the new way to make money. Between loot boxes and U$80 games, I'd much rather have loot boxes.  GKSilKamina Member Oct 25, 2017 1,529 Festering Swamp, USA I thought Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year door was a bit boring. I really wanted to love it, too. :[  Man God Member Oct 25, 2017 40,082 SMT 3 has never really impressed me, I find it a bit dull and dreary.   Juke Joint Jezebel Banned Oct 25, 2017 1,338 United Kingdom -Ocarina Of Time is one of the weakest 3D Zelda games. -Super Mario World is vastly inferior to Mario Bros 3. -Final Fantasy 7 is the worst PS1 era mainline game in the series.  Godzilla's Left Toe Member Oct 25, 2017 6,262 Sony has never had a Good Controller.   Deleted member 5535 User requested account closure Banned Oct 25, 2017 13,656 Sonic 3D is better than Sonic 2D in most of the cases   Parenegade Banned Oct 25, 2017 3,589 If your game doesn't use dialogue trees it's not a true role-playing game.   Shpeshal Nick Banned Oct 25, 2017 7,856 Melbourne, Australia Grand Theft Auto games are amongst the jankiest and worst playing games out there.   jack_package_200 Member Oct 25, 2017 17,537 The Last of Us was okay   LegalEagleMike The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 2,613 BeardedMan01 said: I will kick things off with two of my most debated. First I think that the destroy ending for Mass Effect 3 is the best ending. Control is going too far and synthesis in my view is taking away the uniqueness of each individual and takes away their agency in the choice. Destroy was the mission from the start that is how it should end. S Click to expand... Click to shrink... Hasnt destroy ending always been overwhelmingly the most popular choice?  NameUser Member Oct 25, 2017 16,901 Don't think it's a crazy opinion--GTA games are medicore. They're mostly popular because the worlds, but the gameplay is janky as hell.   Deleted member 1656 User requested account closure Banned Oct 25, 2017 4,474 So-Cal Dr. Benton Quest said: Bloodborne isn't in the same genre as other souls games. Because of this, 'soulsborne' is a misnomer. Click to expand... Click to shrink... What genres are those?   OP OP tgrfawcett Member Oct 25, 2017 795 Utah RowdyReverb said: I really loved Bioshock Infinite. I need to pick up Bioshock Collection and replay it, but I've heard there are performance issues. Maybe when I get a Xbox One X Click to expand... Click to shrink... I loved it at first but have fallen out of love with it as time has gone on. Many things about it bother me more than I can simply forget. That said it is still a good game, just with many missteps. (Also I just replayed through the collection on Xbox and it ran just fine).  wapplew Banned Oct 25, 2017 1,163 I don't like 3D platformer. All western Sony mascots or 3D Mario. Does't feel like platformer, hard to aim your jump, lack or urgency. Willing to give it another chance with Odyssey.  CannonFodder52 Member Oct 25, 2017 9,117 Canada I think The Last of Us, while being a fine game, is also given too high a status in gaming. Personally, I believe The Last Guardian is a more impressive video game.   Last edited: Jan 26, 2018 Super Corpse Soldier Banned Oct 25, 2017 2,645 Last of Us is just okay.   DeusOcha Banned Oct 25, 2017 1,591 Osaka, Japan Destiny 2 is a shit subpar game.   Tsuyu Member Oct 25, 2017 6,499 Chrono Trigger has empty towns and looks very dated which most sprites-looking games are. Like most whimsical stories, it hides behind that facade for its shortcoming.   BasilZero Member Oct 25, 2017 39,568 Omni I enjoyed Bioshock Infinite and FFXIII lol. Final Fantasy XV I enjoyed as well despite its many flaws. I also love Super Smash Bros Brawl more than Melee or the WiiU/3DS versions.  Nitsua Member Oct 25, 2017 24 Sacae Persona 5 isn't the greatest RPG ever. While enjoyable overall & hella stylish, it does feel samey after P3 & P4.  Xavillin Member Oct 25, 2017 2,131 Zelda BOTW is NOWHERE near as good as it's hyped up to be it. Lack of enemy diversity, weapon durability isn't fun, your typical padded open-world, etc etc. Pokémon Sun and Moon are the worst mainline Pokémon games so far. This one, maybe I was just feeling Pokémon fatigue and salty that I lost my complete Pokédex when changing from 3DS to new 3DSXL.  Quantum Leap Banned Oct 25, 2017 5,988 California Breath of the wild is overrated and didn't feel like a real Zelda game.   Ms.Galaxy Avenger Oct 25, 2017 1,653 I found Overwatch to be mediocre. I thought I might like it since I love Team Fortress 2, but I just can't get back to it. I think I'll stick with TF2. I actually found No Man's Sky pretty fun even at launch.  competentcuttlefish Member Oct 25, 2017 634 Godzilla's Left Toe said: Sony has never had a Good Controller. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I second this. The dualshocks were never comfortable. The handles are comically small and the analog sticks are too close together.  Falchion Member Oct 25, 2017 44,081 The Xbox One's interface is far superior to the PS4's.   Bigg Member Oct 25, 2017 7,215 Ocarina of Time is unquestionably revolutionary and hugely influential in terms of design, but I just never found it all that fun to play. I found Link Between Worlds to be a lot more fun than OoT.   enigmatic_alex44 GAGA IS A FLOP Member Oct 25, 2017 932 You tried it. Final Fantasy 8 is the best game in the series.   Nairume SaGa Sage Member Oct 25, 2017 7,995 So, like. Obsidian is amazing at world building. Their writing is better than most of the industry. Their games are always interesting. That said, they are kinda awful at actually designing RPG mechanics. Their most universally beloved games all build on top of existing systems/mechanics made/adapted by other people. When you start getting into games where they had a bigger role in designing things, you start getting into a lot more flawed (albeit interesting) experiences. I'd be much happier to see them tackle genres like adventure games, where they aren't being held down by clunky RPG mechanics. Dr. Benton Quest said: Bloodborne isn't in the same genre as other souls games. Because of this, 'soulsborne' is a misnomer. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think it's also weird to try and tack Bloodborne into the genre title in general. At least Souls represents the games that popularized the genre. Bloodborne is just a popular console exclusive that came later. Man God said: SMT 3 has never really impressed me, I find it a bit dull and dreary. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, I can't say it's even close to being in my top 5 MegaTen games  Sun_Gaming_YT Member Oct 25, 2017 113 Kansas Super Mario Sunshine is a bad game with good moments.   SatoAilDarko Member Oct 25, 2017 2,902 You need to play a large amount of a game before being able to render an opinion on it.   Kyle Cross Member Oct 25, 2017 9,347 Resident Evil 7 is crap and Resident Evil 6 is good. Also I don't buy that Kojima was entirely innocent in his firing from Konami.  aerie wonky On Break Oct 25, 2017 8,790 I'm not big on The Last of Us either. It certainly has some great moments and strong storytelling, but overall i just don't think the overall game is that strong.   Yamaguti98 Member Oct 25, 2017 31 Final Fantasy XIII is not a terrible game...   RowdyReverb Member Oct 25, 2017 6,203 Austin, TX Sun_Gaming_YT said: Super Mario Sunshine is a bad game with good moments. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is controversial?   Noctis Member Oct 25, 2017 12,406 New York City Nintendo games are overrated for the most part.. solid and polished games that much I will say. The new Zelda looks shallow to me.   Arsene no Kiseki Member Oct 25, 2017 5,538 Canada digitalrelic said: I think Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece. I also think Dragon's Dogma is highly overrated. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Highly agree with Bioshock Infinite. Loved it and the DLC. It was beautiful and so much fun to play. Sucks that everyone else seems to really dislike it.  Hayama Akito Member Oct 25, 2017 1,326 Just in case: Sunshine IS a bad game, is not controversial at all.   OP OP tgrfawcett Member Oct 25, 2017 795 Utah LegalEagleMike said: Hasnt destroy ending always been overwhelmingly the most popular choice? Click to expand... Click to shrink... In my experience Synthesis is viewed as the good ending because it is the most peaceful with everyone but Shepard living through to the end and society being thrust into a very very very questionable utopia of equality.  Pasokon Deacon Member Oct 25, 2017 1,786 Devil Halton's Trap I dislike the trial-and-error style of platforming in games like Super Meat Boy, DustForce, and VVVVV. Platforming challenges in these games, each with disconnected "missions" rather than levels you learn and can accept as worlds in and of themselves, don't teach the player as organically as I'd like. Chunking platforming ideas so hard apart, rather than building upon each of them within long-form levels, allows for more difficulty but less challenge and general satisfaction. It's less that I can't enjoy the games and more that I pine for platformers that either don't worry about difficulty much (Sonic series for example) or which encourage 1-credit-clear play.