sn00zer Member Feb 28, 2018 7,160 This is maybe one of my favorite bits of helpful advice out there. This is genuinely all I read to get started with Dark Souls 1 and have now gone through the entire Souls series. Very light spoilers to point you in the right direction both in terms of literally where to go and how to interpret the massive stat sheets. No surprises revealed, just enough to get you moving. Many games out there, especially those with sense mechanics (Monster Hunter), could use one of these to get over that initial hump.   Semfry Member Oct 25, 2017 2,246 This site is basically this: https://beforeiplay.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Although it obviously has some gaps.  signal Member Oct 28, 2017 42,940 20 points??? avoid the graveyard and new londo ruins??? cookie cutter playthrough influencer smh  LayZboy Member Dec 17, 2024 389 Avoid the graveyard so you don't get the zwei for R2 pancaking? Snooze playthrough.  PJTierney Social Media Manager • EA SPORTS WRC Verified Mar 28, 2021 4,754 Warwick, UK sn00zer said: This is maybe one of my favorite bits of helpful advice out there. This is genuinely all I read to get started with Dark Souls 1 and have now gone through the entire Souls series. Very light spoilers to point you in the right direction both in terms of literally where to go and how to interpret the massive stat sheets. No surprises revealed, just enough to get you moving. Many games out there, especially those with sense mechanics (Monster Hunter), could use one of these to get over that initial hump. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thoughts on if a game's official social media were to make something like this? I might pinch the idea for F1 25, though I get the feeling it might be better if community came up with one organically.  Astral Member Oct 27, 2017 33,142 Please don't avoid the graveyard. The Zweihander is worth dying for. It's like right there. I like tip 20 though.   Koklusz Member Oct 27, 2017 3,843 IIRC Claymore is in graveyard.   Ashes of Dreams Fallen Guardian of Unshakable Resolve Member May 22, 2020 19,250 I mean, sure. Some people like tips, some people follow guides, etc. But with Dark Souls (and many other games), experimentation and failure are an intended part of the experience. There's a reason the graveyard is right next to the hub. Telling people the optimal beginner's path is robbing them of the experience of discovering the game for themselves. I hope nobody throws this image at anyone who is starting the game and didn't ask for it. Or even just asked for some basic tips. Honestly I think the best piece of advice for most games, including Dark Souls, is "forget everything you've read about it, stop overthinking things, just play the game. If you make mistakes, that's okay." Most games don't need to be played optimally and the majority of these points are just explaining that. This is also what I say to people getting caught up in the weeds trying to start Final Fantasy VIII. Just ignore all the noise you heard about it's systems and play the game. I promise you that's what the developer intended. And yes, some people only enjoy games when done optimally and that's... weird to me but you do you. I'm talking about the people who hear about this stuff and start panicking, enjoying the game less, worrying about it at all, or even choose not to play it.  JohnTruckasaurus Member Oct 27, 2017 304 Koklusz said: IIRC Claymore is in graveyard. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nah, it's the Zwei. The claymore is on the dragon bridge if you're willing to take a sprint for it.   Noppie Member Oct 27, 2017 14,583 What happened to just playing and finding stuff out? I don't want any guide of tips or anything. Just play the game.  Exist 2 Inspire Powered by Friendship™ Member Apr 19, 2018 4,609 Germany This should just say "Use a guide" lol. Souls is infinitely more fun playing with guides/maps from the get go. The best advice i ever got.   Teeth Member Nov 4, 2017 4,396 signal said: 20 points??? avoid the graveyard and new londo ruins??? cookie cutter playthrough influencer smh Click to expand... Click to shrink... LayZboy said: Avoid the graveyard so you don't get the zwei for R2 pancaking? Snooze playthrough. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Astral said: Please don't avoid the graveyard. The Zweihander is worth dying for. It's like right there. I like tip 20 though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The problem with the graveyard, for beginners, is that they had all heard Dark Souls was "really hard". So they go to the graveyard first and face enemies that take 20 hits to chip away to death. They die in one or two hits. They bang their head against the skellies over and over thinking "wow, this game really hard." but also "this is really tedious. Is every enemy going to be a brick wall of health? It's kind of boring." and just think "that's the way this game is." Saying "you can get the zweihander there" is pretty meaningless unless you know why it's good, how to stat into it, and that you're probably not going to want to go this way anyway (early rite of kindling regardless). Noppie said: What happened to just playing and finding stuff out? I don't want any guide of tips or anything. Just play the game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Fortunately for you, you wouldn't have to read any of them!  signal Member Oct 28, 2017 42,940 Teeth said: The problem with the graveyard, for beginners, is that they had all heard Dark Souls was "really hard". So they go to the graveyard first and face enemies that take 20 hits to chip away to death. They die in one or two hits. They bang their head against the skellies over and over thinking "wow, this game really hard." but also "this is really tedious. Is every enemy going to be a brick wall of health? It's kind of boring." and just think "that's the way this game is." Click to expand... Click to shrink... Formative experience 😤   Teeth Member Nov 4, 2017 4,396 signal said: Formative experience 😤 Click to expand... Click to shrink... It can be. But as someone who had a couple of friends who were on the fence about the whole "dark souls" thing and eventually decided to give it a try...after a few hours of doing things that the above image would have prevented (one banged their head against getting down to the catacombs and the other dumped a ton of points into Resistance thinking it was upping their defence), they gave up and said "I just don't think this game is for me, I found it boring. Everything took forever to kill." Once they were nudged in the right direction, they had a better time.  signal Member Oct 28, 2017 42,940 Teeth said: It can be. But as someone who had a couple of friends who were on the fence about the whole "dark souls" thing and eventually decided to give it a try...after a few hours of doing things that the above image would have prevented (one banged their head against getting down to the catacombs and the other dumped a ton of points into Resistance thinking it was upping their defence), they gave up and said "I just don't think this game is for me, I found it boring. Everything took forever to kill." Once they were nudged in the right direction, they had a better time. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm just mostly kidding but if someone only went to the catacombs and found it (understandably) difficult and also never tried to go any other direction that Firelink can go to, but just gave up on the game instead, I could see the annoyance.   Nere Member Dec 8, 2017 2,594 Exist 2 Inspire said: This should just say "Use a guide" lol. Souls is infinitely more fun playing with guides/maps from the get go. The best advice i ever got. Click to expand... Click to shrink... For you.   construct Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Jun 5, 2020 10,861 𖦹 I think the game was more fun as a mystery. I'd love to play these games for the first time again.   Tsaki Member Feb 12, 2019 321 Semfry said: This site is basically this: https://beforeiplay.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Although it obviously has some gaps. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Hey, thanks for this!   Kromis Member Oct 29, 2017 8,002 SoCal Astral said: Please don't avoid the graveyard. The Zweihander is worth dying for. It's like right there. I like tip 20 though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's been QUITE some time since I last played DS1 but is tip 20 a reference to the Capra Demon boss fight?  thepenguin55 Member Oct 28, 2017 13,899 This discussion immediately breaks down into a discussion about the content of the list rather than the idea. lol   Indie guy Member Jul 11, 2022 728 Italy Kromis said: It's been QUITE some time since I last played DS1 but is tip 20 a reference to the Capra Demon boss fight? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It clearly is.   OP OP sn00zer Member Feb 28, 2018 7,160 thepenguin55 said: This discussion immediately breaks down into a discussion about the content of the list rather than the idea. lol Click to expand... Click to shrink...   OP OP sn00zer Member Feb 28, 2018 7,160 PJTierney said: Thoughts on if a game's official social media were to make something like this? I might pinch the idea for F1 25, though I get the feeling it might be better if community came up with one organically. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I would like one. My wife and I have gotten into F1 exclusively because of the Netflix show so I've been glancing at this and the manager game but have zero idea what they are like. Tbh not even sure basic F1 strategies since the drama is basically all that's show in the Netflix show   OP OP sn00zer Member Feb 28, 2018 7,160 Semfry said: This site is basically this: https://beforeiplay.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Although it obviously has some gaps. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is awesome   Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 1,937 I think some of those tips don't outright need to be there.   Firima Member Oct 27, 2017 4,786 I beat Capra Demon first try am I cracked chat? signal said: 20 points??? avoid the graveyard and new londo ruins??? cookie cutter playthrough influencer smh Click to expand... Click to shrink... early very large ember is nice but I'm suiciding catacombs for great scythe 100% and I'll be done with the game before I even get a single material for +10-+15   teruterubozu Member Oct 28, 2017 9,821 I've been playing it again on Switch for a bit of nostalgia. The #1 beginner tip is grind.   Genesius Member Nov 2, 2018 20,125 PJTierney said: Thoughts on if a game's official social media were to make something like this? I might pinch the idea for F1 25, though I get the feeling it might be better if community came up with one organically. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Probably not quite as detailed, but throwing out a couple of easy to miss QOL tips couldn't hurt anything.   Yoshimitsu126 The Fallen Nov 11, 2017 17,022 United States Just play magic cast and dodge unless the weapon skill tree is streamline and easy to upgrade like bloodborne where you can't go wrong sticking with your starter weapon until the end game. That said I only played Demon's Souls and Bloodborne lol  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,833 PJTierney said: Thoughts on if a game's official social media were to make something like this? I might pinch the idea for F1 25, though I get the feeling it might be better if community came up with one organically. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Do it, these things are all optional and helpful.