YuSuzzune Member Nov 21, 2018 5,643 Italy We got Overwatch 2 and Diablo IV, all missing COD games and nothing else. Still no Diablo 2 Resurrected, Diablo 3 or other games already available on B.net.  Jawmuncher Crisis Dino Moderator Oct 25, 2017 44,329 Ibis Island I hate to tell you this fam, but Xbox/Acti seemingly have no interest in much of the back catalog. As they've been ignoring it for Steam and Xbox (Even titles that wouldn't need the BC efforts). As a whole, I think it's either just not being pushed by anyone internally (despite what Phil has said) or Xbox after buying Activision just went back to leaving them alone, with only "newer" titles being where they feel the need to offer it. It's whack honestly. As getting a new company under you and doing just about jack-all with the back catalog has to be one of the BIGGEST wastes.  Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,853 Gotta drop feed that shit out to make GamePass worth the monthly sub, or honestly they don't care and won't bring older games to it.   Tsunami561 Member Mar 7, 2023 5,239 It started before the sale so it's not microsoft's doing. I think they just don't care that much about older games. Wish we got D2R at least.   LewieP Member Oct 26, 2017 19,675 I was expecting more games to be made BC on Xbox, too.   ThereAreFourNaan Member Nov 8, 2017 14,928 ActiBliz was porting to steam before Microsoft took control, for internal commercial reasons. Framing it as strictly a Microsoft initiative doesn't seem correct although the way they handled it was similar. There is a strong business case to port actively supported games and new release games. It costs the same to port older games but they will not sell as much. Neither ABK on their own or Microsoft chose to comprehensive port their entire catalogue. Microsoft games from as recently as Crackdown 3 (2019!) fell into the black hole where they were modern enough to get pc ports, but not modern enough to get a day 1 steam release, and also deemed not lucrative enough to have a port funded later on either. Gears 4 from 2016 was the same way, even as Gears 5 launched into Steam! Go back one step further - Microsoft porting all games to PC day 1 starting in 2016 or whenever it was left some games high and dry from the changeover and also they certainly did not go back and port every single console game to PC... they just ported new ones from then on out. Now we will see the same play out on PS5 and Switch 2 - Microsoft will port some actively supported or specific high value back catalogue games as well as future games day 1, but they aren't going to double back and port every single old thing and even some from not that long before the changeover period will be black holed.  Last edited: Today at 7:42 AM Killer Member Oct 27, 2017 2,866 They seem to put all MS/Bethesda game on B.net now.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Tsunami561 said: It started before the sale so it's not microsoft's doing. I think they just don't care that much about older games. Wish we got D2R at least. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Blizzard didn't feel the need to bring their old games on Steam and they don't value their old catalog outside of remasters. To be fair their games historically have sold plenty on Bnet. So the incentive to launch on Steam hasn't been there.  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,621 Killer said: They seem to put all MS/Bethesda game on B.net now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 29,558 prey/wolfenstein yearns for rerelease ms.   AgentStrange Member Oct 25, 2017 4,920 Yeah, seems like it unfortunately. I'm still waiting for Wolfenstein 2009 to come back. Feels bad, man.   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Doesn't seem smart to make it in any way a priority.   Polk Avenger Oct 26, 2017 5,826 They want people to buy and play new games.   Arkanim94 Member Oct 27, 2017 16,547 Acti blizz doesn't have long term memory. They only remember the most recent games.   secretanchitman One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 9,778 Chicago, IL Looks like it, but I remain hopeful that someone inside the company will champion it again. I'd buy all of their games again on Steam, no questions asked!  Niimu Member Apr 5, 2022 513 Yeah, I gave up on waiting and ended up getting D2R on bnet.   chrominance Sky Van Gogh Member Oct 25, 2017 15,999 Microsoft still has holes in their own first-party lineup when it comes to bringing things to PC/Steam, so I don't know why everyone assumed Microsoft would suddenly get Activision to put all of their back catalog up again except hopium.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... Because millions of people use it. I think they said at one point that there are more D4 players on Bnet than Steam. You have to remember that most of the popular blizzard games were purchased on Bnet.  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't understand why they don't want to give Valve 30% for nothing?   Killer Member Oct 27, 2017 2,866 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... I wish they just torch Xbox app and move everything to B.net tbh.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Killer said: I wish they just torch Xbox app and move everything to B.net tbh. Click to expand... Click to shrink... .  Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 27,621 TechnicPuppet said: You don't understand why they don't want to give Valve 30% for nothing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces.  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,568 They aren't even adding games to GP lol, just not a priority TechnicPuppet said: You don't understand why they don't want to give Valve 30% for nothing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nothing except a massive userbase that don't use other launchers   xyla Member Oct 27, 2017 9,484 Germany TechnicPuppet said: Doesn't seem smart to make it in any way a priority. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Doesn't have to be a priority to have a small team constantly bring over the back catalog. It's the biggest publisher in the world with an insane amount of IP and games technically ready to go - they just need to be brought onto steam. Even if it's not setting the world on fire, sales wise - you never know when an old game suddenly catches the Zeitgeist because some streamer is playing it. You miss out on sales every day like this.  danm999 Member Oct 29, 2017 19,672 Sydney Battle net is the rare PC launcher that isn't Steam that people actually still use so uhh, not much incentive for them.   DNihilus Member Apr 21, 2025 1 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... Just combine battle.net with Xbox app and you will get a trillion new users from WoW, than few months later, market this as how your platform grow over the years  Pulsar Member Apr 20, 2025 3 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... They own Bnet and it's still a fairly decent product, so it makes sense to keep it around and not solely depend on Steam.  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 xyla said: Doesn't have to be a priority to have a small team constantly bring over the back catalog. It's the biggest publisher in the world with an insane amount of IP and games technically ready to go - they just need to be brought onto steam. Even if it's not setting the world on fire, sales wise - you never know when an old game suddenly catches the Zeitgeist because some streamer is playing it. You miss out on sales every day like this. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Putting in work to give 30% to Valve, training your audience to wait doesn't seem that smart.   Bony Manifesto Member Oct 27, 2017 4,324 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform.  erpg Member Oct 25, 2017 621 Patitoloco said: That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh so it's like a racket.   Stef Member Oct 28, 2017 7,526 Rome, Italy, Planet Earth Killer said: They seem to put all MS/Bethesda game on B.net now. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. I guess they are changing their strategy. Let's see…  Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,568 Bony Manifesto said: I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, just like Fortnite players didn't suddenly started buying games on Epic launcher   xyla Member Oct 27, 2017 9,484 Germany TechnicPuppet said: Putting in work to give 30% to Valve, training your audience to wait doesn't seem that smart. Click to expand... Click to shrink... We're talking about years after the fact with their games and MS has had much success with launching simultaneously on Game Pass and Steam. They constantly have a lot of games in the top selling games every year. Doesn't happen if you don't release games there.  Reckheim Avenger Oct 25, 2017 10,250 I feel like MS in general is all over the place with their releases.   BeansBeansBeans Member Jan 14, 2025 500 I still just want Minecraft on Steam. :(   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 28,681 Patitoloco said: That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's because those other publishers didn't produce enough games with the stickiness of Blizzard games. All that said, their future games will be on every platform. So that's a positive.  Tbm24 Member Oct 25, 2017 22,374 Bony Manifesto said: I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The majority of players who play Blizzard games on PC use battle net, not just WoW players. So it's just a really popular store. It's not as popular as Steam, but much to people's disappointment I guess, they're fine with that overall.   Rosebud Two Pieces Member Apr 16, 2018 50,568 Tbm24 said: The majority of players who play Blizzard games on PC use battle net, not just WoW players. So it's just a really popular store. It's not as popular as Steam, but much to people's disappointment I guess, they're fine with that overall. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If they were fine they wouldn't be releasing Diablo, Overwatch and all new games including COD at Steam lol. They just aren't prioritizing their back catalogue overall   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Patitoloco said: That's one of the biggest fallacies you could say about it. Steam also gives you access to like 100x more customers than BNet and it's the standard for every publisher except Epic and Blizzard (whose fanbase is already engrained on BNet). Very surprising to see people defending this and ripping EA app, Ubi Connect, EGS, etc to pieces. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's funny to me that the openness of PC is always used as a pro but in reality a lot of people just want everything to be on Steam.   Lilly-Anne Member Feb 14, 2024 3,269 TechnicPuppet said: It's funny to me that the openness of PC is always used as a pro but in reality a lot of people just want everything to be on Steam. Click to expand... Click to shrink... that happens when every other client is hot garbage, yes   Bony Manifesto Member Oct 27, 2017 4,324 Tbm24 said: The majority of players who play Blizzard games on PC use battle net, not just WoW players. So it's just a really popular store. It's not as popular as Steam, but much to people's disappointment I guess, they're fine with that overall. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, I was using World of Warcraft as shorthand, but Blizzard games in general were exclusive to the platform until very recently.  Brot Member Oct 25, 2017 6,767 the edge Forget Steam, where's the PC version of Crash Team Racing?   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,609 Brot said: Forget Steam, where's the PC version of Crash Team Racing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... not even 60 fps patch for consoles tells me its never happening alas kind of insane. come on MS  TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Lilly-Anne said: that happens when every other client is hot garbage, yes Click to expand... Click to shrink... That just isn't true.   Kazooie Member Jul 17, 2019 6,062 Patitoloco said: Ill never understand why the hell they still try to push battle net Click to expand... Click to shrink... If people buy games on their own storefronts (Xbox / Windows / Battlenet) they make a lot more money than if they buy it on Steam, so why would they not, since they already have the infrastructure established.   Lilly-Anne Member Feb 14, 2024 3,269 TechnicPuppet said: That just isn't true. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The current iteration of Battlenet came out in 2009. Despite hosting the most successful MMO in the entire world, it took until 2021 for you to be able to add friends from different regions   TechnicPuppet Member Oct 28, 2017 11,856 Lilly-Anne said: The current iteration of Battlenet came out in 2009. Despite hosting the most successful MMO in the entire world, it took until 2021 for you to be able to add friends from different regions Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's 2025   danm999 Member Oct 29, 2017 19,672 Sydney Bony Manifesto said: I think it's just that there's a lot of World of Warcraft players out there who have it installed and have payment details associated with their account. For a PC launcher, that's half the battle right there. At least that's the theory. In reality, people use Battle.net not out of choice, but because it's the only place they can play World of Warcraft. I can't see many people choosing to buy non-exclusive games on the platform. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The amount of people that bought the Brutosaur mount, for 90 USD. Things a fucking gold mine.  Spark Member Dec 6, 2017 2,802 Still waiting for Heretic 2 on GOG   XR. Member Nov 22, 2018 7,548 TechnicPuppet said: It's funny to me that the openness of PC is always used as a pro but in reality a lot of people just want everything to be on Steam. Click to expand... Click to shrink... When people say they appreciate the openness of PC gaming, do you think they mean having 14 different clients installed?