sionydus Member Jan 2, 2021 2,717 West Coast, USA I missed out on most of the NS1 catalog. Of the big first party titles, I only played BotW and Mario Odyssey. At the very least, these are the titles I'm looking to play: Tears of the Kingdom Echoes of wisdom Metroid dread Fire emblem three houses Luigi's mansion 3 Pokémon legends Arceus Link's Awakening Remake All the Xenoblade Chronicles Super Mario RPG Metroid Prime Remastered Bayonetta 3 Any chance they're going to either patch or re-release NS2 versions these if I wait a bit? Edit: fixed the list. I put Odyssey for some reason  Last edited: Yesterday at 7:27 PM Renna Hazel Member Oct 27, 2017 13,056 Echoes of Wisdom is getting an update, so you might as well wait for that one. I'm waiting out Xeno X to see if it will.   LegendofLex Member Nov 20, 2017 6,397 The Zeldas and Mario Odyssey are all getting patched. Of those, only BotW and TotK are paid upgrades. I could see Metroid Prime getting one later. But not Dread. I'm guessing the Xenoblades will run more or less at their target resolutions and framerates (I.e. fewer to no drops) without needing a patch.  Last edited: Yesterday at 6:19 PM Mandos Member Nov 27, 2017 38,711 I don't think we'll see many more like MP4(or even the Zelda's) I'd imagine we'll get a few more that are more expanded dlcs than anything but most would be postgame?   Ryengeku Member Oct 26, 2017 6,166 California, US Three Houses would be on Koei Tecmo since it was the Warriors engine that it was essentially developed on and they did most of the work for that game. They're working on the next Zelda Warriors game so not sure how likely that'll be at the moment. The first BOTW Zelda Warriors game also needs help with its frame rate as well. Legends Arceus would be another much needed candidate for upgrades.  GDGF Member Oct 26, 2017 8,934 I just remembered that I haven't gotten Odyssey yet so definitely saving it for the patch lol   Zeal543 Next Level Seer Member May 15, 2020 7,090 Honestly don't think we'll see anymore beyond these, at least not first party   Ashes of Dreams Fallen Guardian of Unshakable Resolve Member May 22, 2020 19,333 So correct me if I'm wrong but there are four types of potential upgrades here? Nintendo Switch 2 Versions With New Content Nintendo Switch 2 Versions With Just Resolution/Frame Rate/HDR Boosts Free Patches for Switch 1 games to run at higher frame rates and make use of Switch 2 hardware Potentially even without patches some Switch 1 games might run better anyway Is that right? This is honestly kind of confusing. If that's right, I say wait at least to see if they get the free patch. If they do, they likely won't have a Switch 2 version.  Dekuman Member Oct 27, 2017 20,817 Do we have comfirmation the 'free' patches specifically address pefromance and isn't for intergration of the 'C' button?   night814 One Winged Slayer Member Oct 29, 2017 16,234 Pennsylvania Zeal543 said: Honestly don't think we'll see anymore beyond these, at least not first party Click to expand... Click to shrink... Really I feel the exact opposite, they'll have a bunch available now and they'll space more out for the next few years to fill any release gaps   TaySan SayTan Member Dec 10, 2018 36,354 Tulsa, Oklahoma I honestly doubt we are going to get much more beyond launch window. Really hoping we will get a Pikmin 4 update   Edward ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 30, 2017 5,907 I'm not waiting because Nintendo is Nintendo and they're the kind of company that would update all their big first party games but do it randomly 4 years from now.   Rockets Member Sep 12, 2018 3,265 Dekuman said: Do we have comfirmation the 'free' patches specifically address pefromance and isn't for intergration of the 'C' button? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I don't think games need to be updated to use the C button. Mario and Luigi Brothership was shown utilizing C button screen sharing and it hasn't been announced to receive an update (yet)  SlyCoug88 Member Jan 10, 2018 1,309 night814 said: Really I feel the exact opposite, they'll have a bunch available now and they'll space more put for the next few years to fill any release gaps Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's my thinking as well. They don't have the benefit of a bunch of Wii U games to port like switch did, but they can continuously breath new life into a bunch of switch games with visual updates and potentially a bit more DLC-type content. This is what I want at least. And I think it would make sense to fill out the schedule.  Ryengeku Member Oct 26, 2017 6,166 California, US Ashes of Dreams said: So correct me if I'm wrong but there are four types of potential upgrades here? Nintendo Switch 2 Versions With New Content Nintendo Switch 2 Versions With Just Resolution/Frame Rate/HDR Boosts Free Patches for Switch 1 games to run at higher frame rates and make use of Switch 2 hardware Potentially even without patches some Switch 1 games might run better anyway Is that right? This is honestly kind of confusing. If that's right, I say wait at least to see if they get the free patch. If they do, they likely won't have a Switch 2 version. Click to expand... Click to shrink... By virtue, if a game ran with variable frame rates on Switch 1, then running them on Switch 2 should just allow them to run at the max frame rate they were initially trying to target. Such as Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes kept fluctuating between 35 fps to 60 fps, so I'm hoping it'll just be a solid 60 on the Switch 2 when I put it in.   RPG_Fanatic Member Oct 25, 2017 4,760 I feel like any 1st Party game that was developed in house will get either a free update or a Switch 2 Edition at some point. 1st party games that were developed with outside help like Three Houses will be more complicated since they will either have to negociate a time period where the outside team can work on the patch or find another team that could work on the patch.   nekonekoneko Member Oct 1, 2024 239 Dekuman said: Do we have comfirmation the 'free' patches specifically address pefromance and isn't for intergration of the 'C' button? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Does the C button do anything at all in games? I thought everything related to gamechat would be at a system level, so no changes needed for games   night814 One Winged Slayer Member Oct 29, 2017 16,234 Pennsylvania SlyCoug88 said: That's my thinking as well. They don't have the benefit of a bunch of Wii U games to port like switch did, but they can continuously breath new life into a bunch of switch games with visual updates and potentially a bit more DLC-type content. This is what I want at least. And I think it would make sense to fill out the schedule. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Extra funny that some wiiu games can get a third life on switch 2, botw already coming.   Roliq ▲ Legend ▲ Member Sep 23, 2018 7,229 Zeal543 said: Honestly don't think we'll see anymore beyond these, at least not first party Click to expand... Click to shrink... TaySan said: I honestly doubt we are going to get much more beyond launch window. Really hoping we will get a Pikmin 4 update Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean, this is the same guys who are still updating their legacy game catalog and the Nintendo Music bit by bit It is believable to think they may have some updated games for later a new content  krat0zs Member Jan 18, 2020 377 UK I would say for some of them you might as well play now rather than just sitting and waiting. Not sure if you have other stuff in your backlog to play, but the Switch 2 isn't out for nearly a month and a half anyway, and some of those games might never get patches. Totk has been confirmed, but not sure if it will benefit that much from a res/fps bump, it performs fine on Switch 1. Mario Odyssey all they could really do is bump the resolution I'd think, it already runs at 60 and I don't see them getting it to 120 so you might as well play that now. Link's Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom have their slightly jarring double buffered V sync where they bounce between 30 and 60fps which is very distracting to some people. (I got through EoW just fine tbh, didn't play LA) but the Switch 2 could fix that. Metroid Dread already runs at 60 locked I think and looks great FE3H doesn't look or run the best but I don't think they are patching that? It might not be a priority for them. I, at least, can deal with the spotty performance with it being turn based. LM3 already looks really nice on Switch. A 60fps bump could be nice but I don't think they have announced it? Pokemon Legend Arceus probably won't get a patch being a few entries behind at this point Some people are not happy with the image quality of the Xenoblade games (I think they look fine) but I don't think they have announced a patch for them and seems a bit unlikely they'd do all of them? Mario RPG is mostly fine, the frame rate is a little iffy which the switch 2 could fix even without a patch (it targets 60fps with drops) but drops aren't the worst thing in a game like this And Metroid prime remastered looks and runs amazing already, it is 900p so a res bump could be nice but it seems a little unlikely  Qikz Member Oct 25, 2017 13,693 TaySan said: I honestly doubt we are going to get much more beyond launch window. Really hoping we will get a Pikmin 4 update Click to expand... Click to shrink... Pikmin needs mouse mode, it'll be so good. It's why the Wii version was so good as well.  Harmonie Member Oct 21, 2024 642 Northeast USA night814 said: Really I feel the exact opposite, they'll have a bunch available now and they'll space more out for the next few years to fill any release gaps Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh no... So is this going to become like Wii U ports to the Switch? Please don't let it be so.  TechnoDisaster Member Oct 29, 2017 3,289 USA The older the game, the less likely it is to get a full Switch 2 Edition. BOTW will probably be the biggest exception to this rule. I would love a lot of the 1st party titles to get upgrades, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm at least waiting to see if Xenoblade X gets anything near launch, even if it's just a free performance patch.  krae_man Master of Balan Wonderworld Member Oct 25, 2017 10,579 I played Galaxy 1 and 2 during the pandemic just before before the Mario 3D collection was announced. I didn't get annoyed. Just play what you want to play and have fun.   Dekuman Member Oct 27, 2017 20,817 Rockets said: I don't think games need to be updated to use the C button. Mario and Luigi Brothership was shown utilizing C button screen sharing and it hasn't been announced to receive an update (yet) Click to expand... Click to shrink... nekonekoneko said: Does the C button do anything at all in games? I thought everything related to gamechat would be at a system level, so no changes needed for games Click to expand... Click to shrink... i misspoke, my impression was some of the games were being updated for gameshare, like Clubhouse games. That said, Zelda EOW and LA are SP games so i assume they are pefromance patches, just not clear to me what these patches are for.  Rinku_ Member May 4, 2023 2,062 Really hoping the Xenoblade games get an upgrade so I have an excuse to revisit them. I have a feeling we'll get a direct a little bit after launch that might go over the next few months following launch.   Scott Summers Member Dec 8, 2024 179 sionydus said: I missed out on most of the NS1 catalog. Of the big first party titles, I only played BotW and Mario Odyssey. At the very least, these are the titles I'm looking to play: Tears of the Kingdom Super Mario odyssey Echoes of wisdom Metroid dread Fire emblem three houses Luigi's mansion 3 Pokémon legends Arceus Link's Awakening Remake All the Xenoblade Chronicles Super Mario RPG Metroid Prime Remastered Any chance they're going to either patch or re-release NS2 versions these if I wait a bit? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I assume every single Nintendo switch title is going to get a switch 2 update. It's just way too much money on the table for Nintendo to leave behind when they can charge for an FPS update  Psamtik Member Oct 27, 2017 7,797 I'll be very surprised if these updates don't get rolled out periodically over the life of the console. It's a relatively low-cost way to pad out a release schedule, versus dumping everything at once only to be confronted "now what?" a month later anyway.   Dekuman Member Oct 27, 2017 20,817 Rinku_ said: Really hoping the Xenoblade games get an upgrade so I have an excuse to revisit them. I have a feeling we'll get a direct a little bit after launch that might go over the next few months following launch. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nintendo's H2 is completely undated. We have new Warriors that Winter (which could easily be early 2026), Pokemon ZA and MP4, but those are cross-gen but i guess could slot in as a major release. I do suspect thier late spring/summer direct in place of E3 is going to be quite huge and drop at least one more game for this year.  Windrunner Sly Member Oct 25, 2017 7,641 Will riot if Astral Chain and Bayo 3 don't get updates.   OP OP sionydus Member Jan 2, 2021 2,717 West Coast, USA Windrunner said: Will riot if Astral Chain and Bayo 3 don't get updates. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh I forgot about Bayo 3. That's a big one  Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,843 North Carolina Links Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom should run substantially better with Switch 2 so definitely wait for those. We really don't know much about the performance boosts for Switch 1 titles yet though. Have to imagine something like Xenoblade Chronicles X will get something given the profile was in the game to do so, but who knows if that'll be a free Switch 1 patch or one of their payed tiers.   frosted-flakes Member Apr 6, 2022 578 I wonder if we'll see more $10 upgrades. It seems to me like they knew they could charge for an upgrade but established upgrades are feee. They didn't wanna create new content for the full $20 switch 2 edition, so they slapped some shit together and priced it lower.   Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,843 North Carolina frosted-flakes said: I wonder if we'll see more $10 upgrades. It seems to me like they knew they could charge for an upgrade but established upgrades are feee. They didn't wanna create new content for the full $20 switch 2 edition, so they slapped some shit together and priced it lower. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'm sure we'll see a few more but I actually don't think we will see all that many. The fact that only 5 games are getting payed upgrades at launch, and only 2 are getting new content for the $20 upgrade and those 2 titles are Mario Party and Kirby while also knowing a broad list of other titles getting free upgrades tells me they are likely being very particular about what to charge for. Any cross gen titles that could make use of the Switch 2 power might have a $10 upgrade but outside of that the list might get really slim for Switch 1 titles if the free upgrades are broad and substantial enough.   Liam Allen-Miller Member Nov 2, 2017 7,903 Shibuya Dekuman said: Do we have comfirmation the 'free' patches specifically address pefromance and isn't for intergration of the 'C' button? Click to expand... Click to shrink... The C button opens the GameChat stuff for all software. There's no need to patch anything for that!   Dremorak Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Oct 25, 2017 9,768 New Zealand Harmonie said: Oh no... So is this going to become like Wii U ports to the Switch? Please don't let it be so. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Completely different situation because those games weren't playable on Switch at all and might have been lost to time on WiiU. These games ARE playable on Switch 2, the re-releases just give them better performance, visuals and sometimes new content. Also like has been already said, a lot of switch 1 games had variable frame rates and resolutions, and those games should just run and look better right out of the box  JigglesBunny Prophet of Truth Avenger Oct 27, 2017 35,821 Chicago Not directly related to your list OP, but it's nuts Wonder doesn't have an upgrade ready for launch. 4K, 60 FPS and 1440p, 120 FPS with HDR is such a no brainer that it's genuinely confounding it isn't happening already.   Solobbos ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 27, 2017 2,072 Right now I'm interested in Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and Mario & Rabbids: Sparks of Hope. If they get a 60 FPS update, I'll buy 'em. Otherwise, no thanks.   Prison_mike Member Oct 26, 2017 1,636 Link's Awakening is in desperate need of a FPS boost so hopefully they'll do it...   Vito One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy Member Oct 25, 2017 18,387 I will always want a better cart build so I hope they do all of them.   WhoaIsThatMars Member Oct 25, 2017 2,702 湘南 JigglesBunny said: Not directly related to your list OP, but it's nuts Wonder doesn't have an upgrade ready for launch. 4K, 60 FPS and 1440p, 120 FPS with HDR is such a no brainer that it's genuinely confounding it isn't happening already. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's weird that it isn't in the list given the fact that it was literally the example they showed when talking about the screen's 120hz display. I think that maybe they didn't want to talk too much about backwards compatibility during the Direct. Maybe we get more news leading up to release about all the games getting updated. (They could also be making dlc for Mario Wonder and make us pay for the upgrade 😩😩😩😩😩)  Transistor This isn't going to go the way you think Administrator Oct 25, 2017 41,315 Washington, D.C. I mean, it's not like the game is going to be drastically more enjoyable. Just play the games now   werezompire Zeboyd Games Verified Oct 26, 2017 15,006 I'm going to be really annoyed if the Xenoblade games don't get Switch 2 enhancements. It's frustrating, but I understand if stuff like Astral Chain and TMS#FE don't get upgrades since those weren't big sellers, but Xenoblade is an entire series that's been growing in popularity over time.   Flame Lord Member Oct 26, 2017 3,623 It's a good question. I have numerous games I've waited years to play, and now I might be waiting longer for an improved SW2 version. I'm thinking big sellers, games with generally large appeal will probably get them, like Zelda, Mario, Smash etc., but smaller ones might get simple updates, and ones that have successors coming soon (like MK8) probably won't get anything. JigglesBunny said: Not directly related to your list OP, but it's nuts Wonder doesn't have an upgrade ready for launch. 4K, 60 FPS and 1440p, 120 FPS with HDR is such a no brainer that it's genuinely confounding it isn't happening already. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's really weird obvious ones like that don't have something day one, yeah. Totally forgot about Wonder.  lovecatt Member Nov 12, 2017 2,444 I think bayo 3 and maybe the xenoblade games are the only on that list that will get switch 2 versions   Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,269 You could also wait for the Switch 3 and the games could get patched. You never know!   Anth0ny Member Oct 25, 2017 51,883 That's my plan. Got a big ol Switch 1 backlog I'm excited to dig through on Switch 2. Also time for a Mario Odyssey replay.  WhiteRabbitEXE Member Oct 25, 2017 14,766 Arizona Man, just enjoy the games. The way some of y'all approach this pastime is exhausting. Let the framerate fomo go  Astral Lovelace Member Oct 25, 2017 3,761 Windrunner said: Will riot if Astral Chain and Bayo 3 don't get updates. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yup, I'm hoping ALL the Platinum Games releases get a patch.   th1nk Member Nov 6, 2017 9,334 now I want Metroid Dread Switch 2 Edition with alternate soundtrack DLC and 120 fps 😮‍💨