Jaredus Member Jan 19, 2025 218 https://www.dualshockers.com/stellar-blade-pc-can-run-better-with-denuvo-than-without-claims-devs/ With Stellar Blade's debut on PC slated for next month, gamers should be happy that another PS5-exclusive will be playable on another platform. However, some of that enthusiasm has dampened somewhat with the news that the game will be region-locked. Not only will the game be region-locked, but it will even feature Denuvo for anti-piracy measures, which is something most people won't be happy with given the tool's penchant for being a resource hog. Shift Up has also said that performance of Stellar Blade on PC with Denuvo on is better, which is honestly the first time I've ever seen this claim made. The table below from Shift Up lists Stellar Blade's performance with and without "protection." Click to expand... Click to shrink...   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 30,083 This is Margin for Error tier   Qikz Member Oct 25, 2017 13,753 There's been so many releases with denuvo up to this point and I think every single one has ran worse. I don't think for one second somehow this one game runs better with denuvo than without, and if it does. Why? Why would you want to lock your games performance to a third party system that could disappear at any time. Region locking a PC release as well is crazy.  gbrlrd Member Jul 5, 2018 3,231 Brazil   Bodhi Member Oct 5, 2022 2,410 Unprotected sex is no-no   wagon Member Jan 6, 2025 426 yuh huh   Randam Member Oct 27, 2017 8,803 Germany So?   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 24,084 its clearly run variance/margin of errror but gotta love those unreal eninge 1% & 0.1% lows lol   Ravelle Member Oct 31, 2017 20,323 Things nobody ever said, Alex.   Ouroboros Member Oct 27, 2017 16,097   Winnie Member Mar 12, 2020 3,064 Sure jan   Tsunami561 Member Mar 7, 2023 5,346 How does that minimum framerate reading make any sense, minimum is usually the lowest the number drops right? So how are 1% and 0.1% lower? If you ignore that, the others are within margin of error   The Spoony Hou Member Oct 27, 2017 3,459 Brazilian in the USA The port must be REALLY bad, then.   DespiteTheNora Member Jan 30, 2025 1,678 Playing the game via only looking at the skybox doesn't make it better, sorry Shift Up.   Atom Member Jul 25, 2021 15,304 Classic UE4 1% lows lmao.   Tsumami Member Feb 3, 2022 6,860 Ok.   MadJosh04 Member Nov 9, 2022 2,756   Apollo Corrupted by Vengeance Avenger Oct 25, 2017 10,044 haha   Buckle Member Oct 27, 2017 44,624   RGB Member Nov 13, 2017 803 They said in the tweet in bold the same average frame rate. Followed with a note that they saw a higher minimum in some cases. You can see it's margin for error stuff. But hey that wont stop a good headline.   super moustique Member Oct 31, 2017 9,769 What is the framerate when denuvo's servers are down?   Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,773 Shocking news, Denuvo IMPROVES performance, get it now ! *wink wink*   Gestault Member Oct 26, 2017 14,681 I question the wisdom of even making a claim like that re: Denuvo. The server interaction requirement is a big part of people's objection, which is another variable that can potentially go wrong for legitimate buyers. I do think it's good if the performance difference is negligible, and I've been pleased to see the subset of games that do remove Denuvo a few years after release. I'm curious if the region locking is something they want in-place to give themselves more options when it comes to future crossovers (e.g., partnerships may want to be able to limit markets for their own licensing purposes). On principle, I don't love that when it's being sold on what I think of as an international digital storefront.  nihilence nøthing but silence Moderator Oct 25, 2017 18,949 From 'quake area to big OH. Cherry picking numbers no doubt.   Shinrou Member Oct 28, 2017 2,191 Finland Oh yeah I'm sure it will. Makes sense. Denuvo is protecting against the frame drops.   Angst Member Oct 27, 2017 4,290 so did they code it poorly or something? lol   raketenrolf Member Oct 28, 2017 5,912 Germany Seems legit.   CheapJi Member Apr 24, 2018 4,151 Sure lol, everyone knows that adding unnecessary friction to something makes it go faster!   Dogui Member Oct 28, 2017 10,976 Brazil This is not possible unless there's a really weird pc exclusive code line that artificially clutters the game when not identifying denuvo or something bizarre like this lol   MacheteSquadSteve Member Jan 6, 2025 275 When life hands you lemons (poor frame times) make lemonade (a spurious claim)   ProdigyZA Member Jun 9, 2024 1,491 This seems like dualshockers is making it more than what they were saying, but it makes a good headline though to get the general public up in arms.   Dictator Digital Foundry Verified Oct 26, 2017 5,520 Berlin, 'SCHLAND M68K Member May 7, 2025 56 Dictator said: Lmao they are running it unprotected First with shader comp stutters and then protecter after Click to expand... Click to shrink... Have you considered maybe Denuvo comes with an ini mod.   Duxxy3 Member Oct 27, 2017 24,756 USA So you see, an unprotected game is like a plain round ball. It can go only so far and so fast. Denuvo is like a golf ball. You would think it wouldn't go as far because of the hundreds of dents, but it decreases the friction of the blast processor to make the games cyber engine run faster.   Falchion Member Oct 25, 2017 44,386 This isn't the take.....   Bodhi Member Oct 5, 2022 2,410 PC players thinkng they can escape the PS tax, smh   Sirank Member Oct 27, 2017 1,608 They didn't really say that? Makes for a spicy headline though.   ProdigyZA Member Jun 9, 2024 1,491 Dictator said: Lmao they are running it unprotected First with shader comp stutters and then protecter after Click to expand... Click to shrink... Aren't those framerates too close for what you are saying to be true.   Friendly Bear Member Jan 11, 2019 3,892 I Don’t Care Where (Just Far) I literally laughed out loud when I read that headline.   mclem Member Oct 25, 2017 14,381 I'd love to hear their technical explanation for why this is.   duckgrease Member Nov 24, 2024 158 AHAHAHAHA Is Stellar Blade's writing as funny as this? Because then I gotta check this game out.  03-AALIYAH Member Jul 21, 2023 1,372 Preach, brother ! I keep telling to my boss at work that adding bloat to our software will make it run better, but so far I haven't convinced him.  P40L0 Member Jun 12, 2018 9,552 Italy   Ant_17 Member Oct 28, 2017 2,938 Greece Fuck you, Sony   JigglesBunny Prophet of Truth Avenger Oct 27, 2017 36,091 Chicago This is just… supremely stupid.   Conkerkid11 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 14,868 Sirank said: They didn't really say that? Makes for a spicy headline though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, this. Bad article. Thread should just be about the Tweet the article references, because that's the only actual news here.   Dictator Digital Foundry Verified Oct 26, 2017 5,520 Berlin, 'SCHLAND ProdigyZA said: Aren't those framerates too close for what you are saying to be true. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Framerate is not frametimes - .1% Low and 1% Low represent stutters. Average FPS Van be similar but a great disparity in the 1% lows Like their Chart has indicates that one recording stuttered in frametimes while the other did not   ProdigyZA Member Jun 9, 2024 1,491 Sirank said: They didn't really say that? Makes for a spicy headline though. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yup. Headline of the OP quotes the headline of the article, which isn't even quoting the developers - super misleading but it catches the naive fish, hook line and sinker.  Duxxy3 Member Oct 27, 2017 24,756 USA ProdigyZA said: Aren't those framerates too close for what you are saying to be true. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nah that looks about right. Minimum framerates would be hit the hardest when shader comp runs for the first time. Dictator is most likely correct.  MrBob Member Oct 25, 2017 6,835 Dictator said: Lmao they are running it unprotected First with shader comp stutters and then protecter after Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is hilarious 🤣