• ¡Hola, comunidad maravillosa! Hoy celebramos el tercer cumpleaños del Steam Deck, un dispositivo que ha cambiado la forma en que jugamos. A pesar de algunos desafíos recientes con juegos AAA como Avowed y Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, ¡no perdamos la esperanza! Cada obstáculo es una oportunidad para crecer y mejorar. ¿Acaso no es emocionante pensar en lo que podría traer un sucesor del Steam Deck? La innovación está en el aire y el futuro es brillante. ¡Sigamos apoyando el juego y disfrutemos de cada momento!

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    ¡Hola, comunidad maravillosa! 🎉 Hoy celebramos el tercer cumpleaños del Steam Deck, un dispositivo que ha cambiado la forma en que jugamos. A pesar de algunos desafíos recientes con juegos AAA como Avowed y Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, ¡no perdamos la esperanza! 🌟 Cada obstáculo es una oportunidad para crecer y mejorar. ¿Acaso no es emocionante pensar en lo que podría traer un sucesor del Steam Deck? 🚀 La innovación está en el aire y el futuro es brillante. ¡Sigamos apoyando el juego y disfrutemos de cada momento! 💖 #SteamDeck #Innovación #Videojuegos #FuturoBrillante #AmorPorLosJuegos
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    Here's What May Power The Steam Deck's Successor, But Do We Need One?
    This past February the Steam Deck celebrated its third birthday. And based on the rocky performance of some fairly recent AAA games on Valve’s popular handheld, Avowed and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth being two examples, it’s currently going through a b
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  • So, Obsidian's "Avowed" is now "Verified" for Steam Deck! Who knew that the definition of "verified" was as flexible as a gymnast on a sugar rush? Sure, it boots up and plays at a staggering 30 FPS—perfect for those who enjoy their RPGs at a leisurely stroll pace. It's like watching paint dry, but with more dragons and fewer bugs... at least, that’s what the patch notes say! Let’s just hope the real adventure is finding out what "playable" means. After all, if "verified" means you can turn it on, we’re all set for a gaming revolution!

    #Avowed #SteamDeck #GamingHumor #RPG #Verified
    So, Obsidian's "Avowed" is now "Verified" for Steam Deck! Who knew that the definition of "verified" was as flexible as a gymnast on a sugar rush? Sure, it boots up and plays at a staggering 30 FPS—perfect for those who enjoy their RPGs at a leisurely stroll pace. It's like watching paint dry, but with more dragons and fewer bugs... at least, that’s what the patch notes say! Let’s just hope the real adventure is finding out what "playable" means. After all, if "verified" means you can turn it on, we’re all set for a gaming revolution! #Avowed #SteamDeck #GamingHumor #RPG #Verified
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    Avowed Is The Latest Big Game To Stretch The Definition Of 'Verified' On Steam Deck
    Obsidian’s gorgeous fantasy RPG Avowed just got a new patch, promising the usual list of bug fixes and some new features. The game is also now “Verified” for Steam Deck. What’s it like in a portable form factor? Well, it certainly boots up. It’s cert
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  • RTX on Deck: The GeForce NOW Native App for Steam Deck Is Here

    GeForce NOW is supercharging Valve’s Steam Deck with a new native app — delivering the high-quality GeForce RTX-powered gameplay members are used to on a portable handheld device.
    It’s perfect to pair with the six new games available this week, including Tokyo Xtreme Racing from Japanese game developer Genki.
    Stream Deck
    At the CES trade show in January, GeForce NOW announced a native app for the Steam Deck, unlocking the full potential of Valve’s handheld device for cloud gaming.

    The app is now available, and gamers can stream titles on the Steam Deck at up to 4K 60 frames per second — connected to a TV — with HDR10, NVIDIA DLSS 4 and Reflex technologies on supported titles. Plus, members can run these games at settings and performance levels that aren’t possible natively on the Steam Deck. To top it off, Steam Deck users can enjoy up to 50% longer battery life when streaming from an RTX gaming rig in the cloud.
    Steam Deck gamers can dive into graphics-intense AAA titles with the new app. Play Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered, Monster Hunter Wilds and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 at max settings — without worrying about hardware limits or battery drain.
    Obliterate gaming limits on the go.
    Plus, Steam Deck users can now access over 2,200 supported games on GeForce NOW, including from their Steam, Epic Games Store, Ubisoft, Battle.net and Xbox libraries, with over 180 supported PC Game Pass titles.
    Get all the perks of an RTX 4080 GPU owner while using a handheld device, with battery savings and no overheating. Dock it to the TV for a big-screen experience, or game on the go. Unlock a massive game library, better visuals and access to games that wouldn’t run on the handheld before.
    Download the native app from the GeForce NOW page and find a step-by-step guide on the support page for GeForce NOW on Steam Deck.
    To celebrate the launch of the new native app, NVIDIA is giving away two prize bundles — each including a Steam Deck OLED and Steam Deck Dock — as well as some free GeForce NOW Ultimate memberships. Be on the lookout for a chance to win by following the GeForce NOW social media channels, using #GFNOnSteamDeck and following the sweepstakes instructions.
    Racing for New Games
    Accelerate with the cloud and leave opponents behind in the dust.
    Tokyo Xtreme Racer plunges players into the high-stakes world of Japanese highway street racing, featuring open-road duels on Tokyo’s expressways. Challenge rivals in intense one-on-one battles, aiming to drain their Spirit Points by outdriving them through traffic and tight corners. With deep car customization and a moody, neon-lit atmosphere, the game delivers a unique and immersive street racing experience.
    Look for the following games available to stream in the cloud this week:

    Nice Day for FishingCash Cleaner SimulatorTokyo Xtreme RacerThe Last SpellTainted Grail: The Fall of AvalonTorque Drift 2What are you planning to play this weekend? Let us know on X or in the comments below.

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    RTX on Deck: The GeForce NOW Native App for Steam Deck Is Here
    GeForce NOW is supercharging Valve’s Steam Deck with a new native app — delivering the high-quality GeForce RTX-powered gameplay members are used to on a portable handheld device. It’s perfect to pair with the six new games available this week, including Tokyo Xtreme Racing from Japanese game developer Genki. Stream Deck At the CES trade show in January, GeForce NOW announced a native app for the Steam Deck, unlocking the full potential of Valve’s handheld device for cloud gaming. The app is now available, and gamers can stream titles on the Steam Deck at up to 4K 60 frames per second — connected to a TV — with HDR10, NVIDIA DLSS 4 and Reflex technologies on supported titles. Plus, members can run these games at settings and performance levels that aren’t possible natively on the Steam Deck. To top it off, Steam Deck users can enjoy up to 50% longer battery life when streaming from an RTX gaming rig in the cloud. Steam Deck gamers can dive into graphics-intense AAA titles with the new app. Play Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered, Monster Hunter Wilds and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 at max settings — without worrying about hardware limits or battery drain. Obliterate gaming limits on the go. Plus, Steam Deck users can now access over 2,200 supported games on GeForce NOW, including from their Steam, Epic Games Store, Ubisoft, Battle.net and Xbox libraries, with over 180 supported PC Game Pass titles. Get all the perks of an RTX 4080 GPU owner while using a handheld device, with battery savings and no overheating. Dock it to the TV for a big-screen experience, or game on the go. Unlock a massive game library, better visuals and access to games that wouldn’t run on the handheld before. Download the native app from the GeForce NOW page and find a step-by-step guide on the support page for GeForce NOW on Steam Deck. To celebrate the launch of the new native app, NVIDIA is giving away two prize bundles — each including a Steam Deck OLED and Steam Deck Dock — as well as some free GeForce NOW Ultimate memberships. Be on the lookout for a chance to win by following the GeForce NOW social media channels, using #GFNOnSteamDeck and following the sweepstakes instructions. Racing for New Games Accelerate with the cloud and leave opponents behind in the dust. Tokyo Xtreme Racer plunges players into the high-stakes world of Japanese highway street racing, featuring open-road duels on Tokyo’s expressways. Challenge rivals in intense one-on-one battles, aiming to drain their Spirit Points by outdriving them through traffic and tight corners. With deep car customization and a moody, neon-lit atmosphere, the game delivers a unique and immersive street racing experience. Look for the following games available to stream in the cloud this week: Nice Day for FishingCash Cleaner SimulatorTokyo Xtreme RacerThe Last SpellTainted Grail: The Fall of AvalonTorque Drift 2What are you planning to play this weekend? Let us know on X or in the comments below. What’s the first game you ever played on GFN? — NVIDIA GeForce NOWMay 27, 2025 #rtx #deck #geforce #now #native
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    RTX on Deck: The GeForce NOW Native App for Steam Deck Is Here
    GeForce NOW is supercharging Valve’s Steam Deck with a new native app — delivering the high-quality GeForce RTX-powered gameplay members are used to on a portable handheld device. It’s perfect to pair with the six new games available this week, including Tokyo Xtreme Racing from Japanese game developer Genki. Stream Deck At the CES trade show in January, GeForce NOW announced a native app for the Steam Deck, unlocking the full potential of Valve’s handheld device for cloud gaming. The app is now available, and gamers can stream titles on the Steam Deck at up to 4K 60 frames per second — connected to a TV — with HDR10, NVIDIA DLSS 4 and Reflex technologies on supported titles. Plus, members can run these games at settings and performance levels that aren’t possible natively on the Steam Deck. To top it off, Steam Deck users can enjoy up to 50% longer battery life when streaming from an RTX gaming rig in the cloud. Steam Deck gamers can dive into graphics-intense AAA titles with the new app. Play Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered, Monster Hunter Wilds and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 at max settings — without worrying about hardware limits or battery drain. Obliterate gaming limits on the go. Plus, Steam Deck users can now access over 2,200 supported games on GeForce NOW, including from their Steam, Epic Games Store, Ubisoft, Battle.net and Xbox libraries, with over 180 supported PC Game Pass titles. Get all the perks of an RTX 4080 GPU owner while using a handheld device, with battery savings and no overheating. Dock it to the TV for a big-screen experience, or game on the go. Unlock a massive game library, better visuals and access to games that wouldn’t run on the handheld before. Download the native app from the GeForce NOW page and find a step-by-step guide on the support page for GeForce NOW on Steam Deck. To celebrate the launch of the new native app, NVIDIA is giving away two prize bundles — each including a Steam Deck OLED and Steam Deck Dock — as well as some free GeForce NOW Ultimate memberships. Be on the lookout for a chance to win by following the GeForce NOW social media channels (X, Facebook, Instagram, Threads), using #GFNOnSteamDeck and following the sweepstakes instructions. Racing for New Games Accelerate with the cloud and leave opponents behind in the dust. Tokyo Xtreme Racer plunges players into the high-stakes world of Japanese highway street racing, featuring open-road duels on Tokyo’s expressways. Challenge rivals in intense one-on-one battles, aiming to drain their Spirit Points by outdriving them through traffic and tight corners. With deep car customization and a moody, neon-lit atmosphere, the game delivers a unique and immersive street racing experience. Look for the following games available to stream in the cloud this week: Nice Day for Fishing (New release on Steam, May 29) Cash Cleaner Simulator (Steam) Tokyo Xtreme Racer (Steam) The Last Spell (Steam) Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon (Steam) Torque Drift 2 (Epic Games Store) What are you planning to play this weekend? Let us know on X or in the comments below. What’s the first game you ever played on GFN? — NVIDIA GeForce NOW (@NVIDIAGFN) May 27, 2025
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  • ROG Ally: Triple AAA Gaming Windows handheld

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    The Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC is real, not an April Fools’ joke

    No fooling — but no specs or price, either.

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    The ROG Ally has a seven-inch 16:9 display with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 500 nits of brightness, and a 120HZ refresh rate, compared to the Steam Deck specs, which are listed as a seven-inch 16:10 display at 1280 x 800 resolution, 400 nits of brightness, and a 60Hz refresh rate.

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    I want more of these, but they need to think about adding alternative control interfaces built into the system. Maybenot a whole touch pad but maybe a nipple and some back buttons. Plus it is is ROG, you know it will cost 2 souls and a leg

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    Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.
     

    nsilvias
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    >1080p

    rip battery life 

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    Sullivan said:

    Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.

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    Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.

    However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense. 

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    nsilvias said:

    >1080p

    rip battery life
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    >1080p

    >120hz
    >500nits 

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    nsilvias said:

    >1080p

    rip battery life
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    80s kids know

     

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    Dangerman1337 said:

    Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.

    However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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    Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...
     

    jack.
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    I'd rather have 720p and that d-pad looks like ass but otherwise, this thing seems like it could be pretty good.
     

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    Dangerman1337 said:

    Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.

    However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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    In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced
     

    AuthenticM
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    I didn't know that ROG was an initialism. I've always pronounced it like an acronym.

    So I can install my GOG games on this? 

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    Sullivan said:

    Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...

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    Asus apparently told Dave it.

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    In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced

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    Heh :p.
     

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    1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
     

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    show me more
     

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    So that's nine As?
     

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    Koukalaka said:

    1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.

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    Sounds like the stats for a endurance battery tester
     

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    Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.

    I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld. 

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    Ya, nothing matters until we know about battery and price.
     

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    However, in our experience, they've relied on an AMD 6800U chipset instead of a custom design and generally lack the right combination of horsepower and efficiency that we want to see from handheld gaming machines.

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    I swear the Verge reporter doesn't understand how crippled is the Steam Deck CPU for having 4 cores only when CPU matters a ton more in low resolutions.

    AMD doesn't do custom unless you are going to buy millions, but then again, it's the iVerge. 

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    Koukalaka said:

    1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.

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    I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯

    And you are right, it's hard to get more than 60fps in recent titles even on 6800U with 45W TDP 

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    Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.

    I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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    Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller. 

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    Dinjoralo said:

    Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.

    I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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    You also squeeze out a bit more performance by turning down bigger games
     

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    Do I pronounce this like Broccoli
     

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    Keyser S said:

    Do I pronounce this like Broccoli

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    ROG is supposed to be spelled R.O.G.
     

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    I prefer asymmetrical sticks on my controllers, but on handhelds where the sides are vertical straight up and down, they should not be offset due to where your thumbs land. The switch cramps my hand having to contort my thumb and rotate my hand to hit the sticks. It is better with and ergonomic attachment but it is not the most convenient.
     

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    Looks interesting and I might bite depending on battery life and price. I'm a bit lukewarm on the steamdeck and still waiting to see what comes next.
     

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    Does this have a gyroscope like the Deck?
     

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    Haloid1177 said:

    Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller.

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    I had to disable iCUE as it kept waking up my PC from power saving. I never really used it anyway so no big loss. 

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    ROG XG Mobile eGPU? That's interesting, seeing as Oculink on the Win Max 2 allows you to have only a 10% performance penalty vs a full desktop for external using PCIe Gen4 x4.

    This will make it interesting. Unfortunately Destiny 2 sucks ass on anything less than 10" >.< 

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    120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage
     

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    Happy to eat crow on this, but I'd be very surprised if the starter model of this is < Most of these handheld Windows devices are k+.
     

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    If the 120Hz display is VRR , that's a gamechanger. Framerates lower than 60 will benefit immensely. The Deck needs this too.
     

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    Atolm said:

    120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage

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    Actually, hadn't considered that. Very valid point.
     

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    I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though.

    Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets. 

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    It's like all these companies that are big enough to somewhat compete saw the Deck success and then made hand held. Logitech launches a cloud one, Razer launches a ARM one a year after the Deck and now Asus seems to think they have to one up the Deck everywhereand will result in pricing themselves out of the market.
     

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    Performance and cost will be interesting. Lack of touchpads is a bummer as that has been a great feature for the deck for me.
     

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    Everyone's minds when they're playing AAAAAAAAA games on the handheld of the future

     

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    Qwark said:

    I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though.

    Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.
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    These feel like a bunch of specs thrown at a wall - a screen like that will chew up battery in no time, and the hardware won't be there to back it up.

    This is what I really appreciated about the Steam Deck - it seemed thought out and that all the hardware was designed for a certain performance level. 

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    It's good to see more products in this space, but I'm just never going to buy a PC handheld that doesn't have touchpads. It's frustrating that only Valve is making a handheld that can actually play the games I want to play.
     

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    Will come down to price of course. There's countless Windows handhelds around these days - many objectively better than the Deck, but none that can match it's price point.

    On that note, yes the 1080p screen is appealing for a handheld. I have a Deck, but I expressly use my Ayn Odin Lite for things like Game Pass, GFN, or even watching anime, because it can push double the pixels with ease. Then again, it's Android so it has battery for days. 

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    Oh windows based, that mean native gamepass gaming? Hmm that might be interesting.
     

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    I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.
     

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    Pocky4Th3Win said:

    I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.

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    You could install SteamOS on it if you wanted I imagine.
     

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    Koukalaka said:

    1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.

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    I always want 120hz on any device that is capable of streaming gameplay. Moonlight at 120hz is *chef's kiss*

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    I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯

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    General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.
     

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    bad ergonomics - shallow grip, menu buttons out of reach. Single USB port!
    rocker dpad - why copy the 360s terrible dpad
    dual fans plus higher refresh/resolution/brightness screen - huge battery drain
    Windows instead of SteamOS - no suspend + license fee
    DOA
     

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    DjDeathCool said:

    General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.

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    It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.
     

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    This sounds like one of those other handhelds that are on paper way more powerfull than the deck but then is twice the price and the user experience sucks
     

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    Looks interesting, and I'm always happy to see new entrants into this space, as it gives people more options. Specifically, if they are selling this in B&M retail stores, it'll open the market to people who aren't comfortable ordering a Steam Deck, or getting a Chinese/HK manufactured device of unknown quality.The resolution and refresh rates sound "ambitious", but if it's anything like the GPD I have, you'll be able to knock the refresh rate down to 40hz, and do the usual FSR resolution scaling to save on performance. I'd be surprised if a demanding game lasted more than 2 hours on a single charge though - that just seems to be the norm with the current tech, but its enough for a commute, or a long train journey if you are happy playing 2D stuff.

    As for it using windows, ehhh, It's the easiest way forward right now. Yes it takes a while to boot or come out of standby compared to SteamOS, and the UI kinda sucks on a small screen, but it has zero compatibility issues and allows every current launcher straight out of the box, so you get every advantage of a full PC with only a couple minor downsides.

    My only negative with what I've seen so far, is the size. It's only a shave smaller than the Steam Deck, which is already a chunky bugger. I'd have liked it to be more like the GPD Win 4. Oh well. 

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    It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.

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    Adaptive refresh rate solves that issue and you can cap it if you don't like the energy cost. At least on mobiles, and assumedly for this device as well since you can do the same on Deck.
     
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    Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 View: The Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC is real, not an April Fools’ joke No fooling — but no specs or price, either. www.theverge.com The ROG Ally has a seven-inch 16:9 display with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 500 nits of brightness, and a 120HZ refresh rate, compared to the Steam Deck specs, which are listed as a seven-inch 16:10 display at 1280 x 800 resolution, 400 nits of brightness, and a 60Hz refresh rate. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I want more of these, but they need to think about adding alternative control interfaces built into the system. Maybenot a whole touch pad but maybe a nipple and some back buttons. Plus it is is ROG, you know it will cost 2 souls and a leg Dave2d Handheld View:   Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 30,169 >1080p rip battery life  Dangerman1337 Member Jul 2, 2021 3,187 United Kingdom, The Wirral, Hoylake Sullivan said: Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point. However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.  Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 nsilvias said: >1080p rip battery life Click to expand... Click to shrink... >1080p >120hz >500nits  OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 nsilvias said: >1080p rip battery life Click to expand... Click to shrink... 80s kids know   Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 Dangerman1337 said: Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point. However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...   jack. Member Oct 27, 2017 1,357 I'd rather have 720p and that d-pad looks like ass but otherwise, this thing seems like it could be pretty good.   OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 Dangerman1337 said: Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point. However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense. Click to expand... Click to shrink... In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced   AuthenticM Son Altesse Sérénissime The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 35,186 I didn't know that ROG was an initialism. I've always pronounced it like an acronym. So I can install my GOG games on this?  Dangerman1337 Member Jul 2, 2021 3,187 United Kingdom, The Wirral, Hoylake Sullivan said: Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though... Click to expand... Click to shrink... Asus apparently told Dave it. Slayven said: In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heh :p.   Koukalaka Member Oct 28, 2017 10,405 Scotland 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.   Biosnake Member Oct 25, 2017 14,335 show me more   Radogol Member Nov 9, 2017 384 So that's nine As?   OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 Koukalaka said: 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sounds like the stats for a endurance battery tester   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,729 Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass. I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.  Busaiku Teyvat Traveler Member Oct 25, 2017 17,947 Ya, nothing matters until we know about battery and price.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 However, in our experience, they've relied on an AMD 6800U chipset instead of a custom design and generally lack the right combination of horsepower and efficiency that we want to see from handheld gaming machines. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I swear the Verge reporter doesn't understand how crippled is the Steam Deck CPU for having 4 cores only when CPU matters a ton more in low resolutions. AMD doesn't do custom unless you are going to buy millions, but then again, it's the iVerge.  neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Koukalaka said: 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯ And you are right, it's hard to get more than 60fps in recent titles even on 6800U with 45W TDP  Haloid1177 Member Oct 25, 2017 4,847 Dinjoralo said: Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass. I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller.  OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 Dinjoralo said: Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass. I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You also squeeze out a bit more performance by turning down bigger games   Biosnake Member Oct 25, 2017 14,335 Keyser S The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 8,480 Do I pronounce this like Broccoli   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Keyser S said: Do I pronounce this like Broccoli Click to expand... Click to shrink... ROG is supposed to be spelled R.O.G.   cgpartlow Member Oct 27, 2017 3,476 Seattle, WA I prefer asymmetrical sticks on my controllers, but on handhelds where the sides are vertical straight up and down, they should not be offset due to where your thumbs land. The switch cramps my hand having to contort my thumb and rotate my hand to hit the sticks. It is better with and ergonomic attachment but it is not the most convenient.   bbg_g Member Jun 21, 2020 835 Looks interesting and I might bite depending on battery life and price. I'm a bit lukewarm on the steamdeck and still waiting to see what comes next.   Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 93,547 Houston, TX Does this have a gyroscope like the Deck?   Mashing Member Oct 28, 2017 3,411 Haloid1177 said: Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I had to disable iCUE as it kept waking up my PC from power saving. I never really used it anyway so no big loss.  neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 ROG XG Mobile eGPU? That's interesting, seeing as Oculink on the Win Max 2 allows you to have only a 10% performance penalty vs a full desktop for external using PCIe Gen4 x4. This will make it interesting. Unfortunately Destiny 2 sucks ass on anything less than 10" >.<  Atolm Member Oct 25, 2017 6,154 120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage   BennyWhatever Member Oct 27, 2017 5,504 US Happy to eat crow on this, but I'd be very surprised if the starter model of this is < Most of these handheld Windows devices are k+.   Cats_Schrodinger Member Oct 29, 2017 4,050 If the 120Hz display is VRR , that's a gamechanger. Framerates lower than 60 will benefit immensely. The Deck needs this too.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Atolm said: 120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage Click to expand... Click to shrink... Actually, hadn't considered that. Very valid point.   Qwark Member Oct 27, 2017 10,263 I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though. Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.  AmFreak Member Oct 26, 2017 3,220 It's like all these companies that are big enough to somewhat compete saw the Deck success and then made hand held. Logitech launches a cloud one, Razer launches a ARM one a year after the Deck and now Asus seems to think they have to one up the Deck everywhereand will result in pricing themselves out of the market.   Charpunk Member Oct 25, 2017 12,555 Performance and cost will be interesting. Lack of touchpads is a bummer as that has been a great feature for the deck for me.   SaberVS7 Member Oct 25, 2017 6,750 Everyone's minds when they're playing AAAAAAAAA games on the handheld of the future   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Qwark said: I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though. Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They had to one up this View:   topplehat Member Oct 27, 2017 1,083 Austin, TX These feel like a bunch of specs thrown at a wall - a screen like that will chew up battery in no time, and the hardware won't be there to back it up. This is what I really appreciated about the Steam Deck - it seemed thought out and that all the hardware was designed for a certain performance level.  Jon of the Wired Member Oct 25, 2017 397 It's good to see more products in this space, but I'm just never going to buy a PC handheld that doesn't have touchpads. It's frustrating that only Valve is making a handheld that can actually play the games I want to play.   Kline AVALANCHE Member Sep 15, 2022 524 Will come down to price of course. There's countless Windows handhelds around these days - many objectively better than the Deck, but none that can match it's price point. On that note, yes the 1080p screen is appealing for a handheld. I have a Deck, but I expressly use my Ayn Odin Lite for things like Game Pass, GFN, or even watching anime, because it can push double the pixels with ease. Then again, it's Android so it has battery for days.  Remeran Member Nov 27, 2018 4,129 Oh windows based, that mean native gamepass gaming? Hmm that might be interesting.   Pocky4Th3Win Member Oct 31, 2017 5,425 Minnesota I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.   Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 Pocky4Th3Win said: I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You could install SteamOS on it if you wanted I imagine.   DjDeathCool Member Oct 28, 2017 2,869 Bismarck, ND Koukalaka said: 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I always want 120hz on any device that is capable of streaming gameplay. Moonlight at 120hz is *chef's kiss* neoak said: I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯ Click to expand... Click to shrink... General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.   Ada Member Nov 28, 2017 4,164 bad ergonomics - shallow grip, menu buttons out of reach. Single USB port! rocker dpad - why copy the 360s terrible dpad dual fans plus higher refresh/resolution/brightness screen - huge battery drain Windows instead of SteamOS - no suspend + license fee DOA   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 DjDeathCool said: General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.   Tsunami561 Member Mar 7, 2023 5,383 This sounds like one of those other handhelds that are on paper way more powerfull than the deck but then is twice the price and the user experience sucks   toy_brain Member Nov 1, 2017 2,598 Looks interesting, and I'm always happy to see new entrants into this space, as it gives people more options. Specifically, if they are selling this in B&M retail stores, it'll open the market to people who aren't comfortable ordering a Steam Deck, or getting a Chinese/HK manufactured device of unknown quality.The resolution and refresh rates sound "ambitious", but if it's anything like the GPD I have, you'll be able to knock the refresh rate down to 40hz, and do the usual FSR resolution scaling to save on performance. I'd be surprised if a demanding game lasted more than 2 hours on a single charge though - that just seems to be the norm with the current tech, but its enough for a commute, or a long train journey if you are happy playing 2D stuff. As for it using windows, ehhh, It's the easiest way forward right now. Yes it takes a while to boot or come out of standby compared to SteamOS, and the UI kinda sucks on a small screen, but it has zero compatibility issues and allows every current launcher straight out of the box, so you get every advantage of a full PC with only a couple minor downsides. My only negative with what I've seen so far, is the size. It's only a shave smaller than the Steam Deck, which is already a chunky bugger. I'd have liked it to be more like the GPD Win 4. Oh well.  DjDeathCool Member Oct 28, 2017 2,869 Bismarck, ND neoak said: It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Adaptive refresh rate solves that issue and you can cap it if you don't like the energy cost. At least on mobiles, and assumedly for this device as well since you can do the same on Deck.   #rog #ally #triple #aaa #gaming
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    Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5lq4Q7YAjE The Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC is real, not an April Fools’ joke No fooling — but no specs or price, either. www.theverge.com The ROG Ally has a seven-inch 16:9 display with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 500 nits of brightness, and a 120HZ refresh rate, compared to the Steam Deck specs, which are listed as a seven-inch 16:10 display at 1280 x 800 resolution, 400 nits of brightness, and a 60Hz refresh rate. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I want more of these, but they need to think about adding alternative control interfaces built into the system. Maybenot a whole touch pad but maybe a nipple and some back buttons. Plus it is is ROG, you know it will cost 2 souls and a leg Dave2d Handheld View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drLZxyv79Oo  Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.   nsilvias Member Oct 25, 2017 30,169 >1080p rip battery life  Dangerman1337 Member Jul 2, 2021 3,187 United Kingdom, The Wirral, Hoylake Sullivan said: Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point. However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.  Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 nsilvias said: >1080p rip battery life Click to expand... Click to shrink... >1080p >120hz >500nits  OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 nsilvias said: >1080p rip battery life Click to expand... Click to shrink... 80s kids know   Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 Dangerman1337 said: Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point. However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...   jack. Member Oct 27, 2017 1,357 I'd rather have 720p and that d-pad looks like ass but otherwise, this thing seems like it could be pretty good.   OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 Dangerman1337 said: Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point. However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense. Click to expand... Click to shrink... In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced   AuthenticM Son Altesse Sérénissime The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 35,186 I didn't know that ROG was an initialism. I've always pronounced it like an acronym. So I can install my GOG games on this?  Dangerman1337 Member Jul 2, 2021 3,187 United Kingdom, The Wirral, Hoylake Sullivan said: Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though... Click to expand... Click to shrink... Asus apparently told Dave it. Slayven said: In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heh :p.   Koukalaka Member Oct 28, 2017 10,405 Scotland 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.   Biosnake Member Oct 25, 2017 14,335 show me more   Radogol Member Nov 9, 2017 384 So that's nine As?   OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 Koukalaka said: 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sounds like the stats for a endurance battery tester   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,729 Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass. I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.  Busaiku Teyvat Traveler Member Oct 25, 2017 17,947 Ya, nothing matters until we know about battery and price.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 However, in our experience, they've relied on an AMD 6800U chipset instead of a custom design and generally lack the right combination of horsepower and efficiency that we want to see from handheld gaming machines. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I swear the Verge reporter doesn't understand how crippled is the Steam Deck CPU for having 4 cores only when CPU matters a ton more in low resolutions. AMD doesn't do custom unless you are going to buy millions, but then again, it's the iVerge.  neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Koukalaka said: 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And you are right, it's hard to get more than 60fps in recent titles even on 6800U with 45W TDP  Haloid1177 Member Oct 25, 2017 4,847 Dinjoralo said: Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass. I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller.  OP OP Slayven Never read a comic in his life Moderator Oct 25, 2017 102,422 Dinjoralo said: Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass. I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You also squeeze out a bit more performance by turning down bigger games   Biosnake Member Oct 25, 2017 14,335 Keyser S The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 8,480 Do I pronounce this like Broccoli   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Keyser S said: Do I pronounce this like Broccoli Click to expand... Click to shrink... ROG is supposed to be spelled R.O.G.   cgpartlow Member Oct 27, 2017 3,476 Seattle, WA I prefer asymmetrical sticks on my controllers, but on handhelds where the sides are vertical straight up and down, they should not be offset due to where your thumbs land. The switch cramps my hand having to contort my thumb and rotate my hand to hit the sticks. It is better with and ergonomic attachment but it is not the most convenient.   bbg_g Member Jun 21, 2020 835 Looks interesting and I might bite depending on battery life and price. I'm a bit lukewarm on the steamdeck and still waiting to see what comes next.   Neoxon Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst Member Oct 25, 2017 93,547 Houston, TX Does this have a gyroscope like the Deck?   Mashing Member Oct 28, 2017 3,411 Haloid1177 said: Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I had to disable iCUE as it kept waking up my PC from power saving. I never really used it anyway so no big loss.  neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 ROG XG Mobile eGPU? That's interesting, seeing as Oculink on the Win Max 2 allows you to have only a 10% performance penalty vs a full desktop for external using PCIe Gen4 x4. This will make it interesting. Unfortunately Destiny 2 sucks ass on anything less than 10" >.<  Atolm Member Oct 25, 2017 6,154 120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage   BennyWhatever Member Oct 27, 2017 5,504 US Happy to eat crow on this, but I'd be very surprised if the starter model of this is < $800. Most of these handheld Windows devices are $1k+.   Cats_Schrodinger Member Oct 29, 2017 4,050 If the 120Hz display is VRR , that's a gamechanger. Framerates lower than 60 will benefit immensely. The Deck needs this too.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Atolm said: 120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage Click to expand... Click to shrink... Actually, hadn't considered that. Very valid point.   Qwark Member Oct 27, 2017 10,263 I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though. Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.  AmFreak Member Oct 26, 2017 3,220 It's like all these companies that are big enough to somewhat compete saw the Deck success and then made hand held. Logitech launches a $350 cloud one, Razer launches a $400 ARM one a year after the Deck and now Asus seems to think they have to one up the Deck everywhere (power, resolution, screen, OS) and will result in pricing themselves out of the market.   Charpunk Member Oct 25, 2017 12,555 Performance and cost will be interesting. Lack of touchpads is a bummer as that has been a great feature for the deck for me.   SaberVS7 Member Oct 25, 2017 6,750 Everyone's minds when they're playing AAAAAAAAA games on the handheld of the future   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 Qwark said: I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though. Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They had to one up this View: https://twitter.com/softwincn/status/1636605890429337600   topplehat Member Oct 27, 2017 1,083 Austin, TX These feel like a bunch of specs thrown at a wall - a screen like that will chew up battery in no time, and the hardware won't be there to back it up. This is what I really appreciated about the Steam Deck - it seemed thought out and that all the hardware was designed for a certain performance level.  Jon of the Wired Member Oct 25, 2017 397 It's good to see more products in this space, but I'm just never going to buy a PC handheld that doesn't have touchpads. It's frustrating that only Valve is making a handheld that can actually play the games I want to play.   Kline AVALANCHE Member Sep 15, 2022 524 Will come down to price of course. There's countless Windows handhelds around these days - many objectively better than the Deck, but none that can match it's price point. On that note, yes the 1080p screen is appealing for a handheld. I have a Deck, but I expressly use my Ayn Odin Lite for things like Game Pass, GFN, or even watching anime, because it can push double the pixels with ease. Then again, it's Android so it has battery for days.  Remeran Member Nov 27, 2018 4,129 Oh windows based, that mean native gamepass gaming? Hmm that might be interesting.   Pocky4Th3Win Member Oct 31, 2017 5,425 Minnesota I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.   Deleted member 93062 Account closed at user request Banned Mar 4, 2021 24,767 Pocky4Th3Win said: I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You could install SteamOS on it if you wanted I imagine.   DjDeathCool Member Oct 28, 2017 2,869 Bismarck, ND Koukalaka said: 1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I always want 120hz on any device that is capable of streaming gameplay. Moonlight at 120hz is *chef's kiss* neoak said: I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Click to expand... Click to shrink... General usage (scrolling) on a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.   Ada Member Nov 28, 2017 4,164 bad ergonomics - shallow grip, menu buttons out of reach. Single USB port! rocker dpad - why copy the 360s terrible dpad dual fans plus higher refresh/resolution/brightness screen - huge battery drain Windows instead of SteamOS - no suspend + license fee DOA   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,877 DjDeathCool said: General usage (scrolling) on a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.   Tsunami561 Member Mar 7, 2023 5,383 This sounds like one of those other handhelds that are on paper way more powerfull than the deck but then is twice the price and the user experience sucks   toy_brain Member Nov 1, 2017 2,598 Looks interesting, and I'm always happy to see new entrants into this space, as it gives people more options. Specifically, if they are selling this in B&M retail stores, it'll open the market to people who aren't comfortable ordering a Steam Deck (for whatever reason), or getting a Chinese/HK manufactured device of unknown quality. (I have a GPD device and think its awesome) The resolution and refresh rates sound "ambitious", but if it's anything like the GPD I have, you'll be able to knock the refresh rate down to 40hz, and do the usual FSR resolution scaling to save on performance. I'd be surprised if a demanding game lasted more than 2 hours on a single charge though - that just seems to be the norm with the current tech, but its enough for a commute, or a long train journey if you are happy playing 2D stuff. As for it using windows, ehhh, It's the easiest way forward right now. Yes it takes a while to boot or come out of standby compared to SteamOS, and the UI kinda sucks on a small screen, but it has zero compatibility issues and allows every current launcher straight out of the box, so you get every advantage of a full PC with only a couple minor downsides. My only negative with what I've seen so far, is the size. It's only a shave smaller than the Steam Deck, which is already a chunky bugger. I'd have liked it to be more like the GPD Win 4. Oh well.  DjDeathCool Member Oct 28, 2017 2,869 Bismarck, ND neoak said: It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Adaptive refresh rate solves that issue and you can cap it if you don't like the energy cost. At least on mobiles, and assumedly for this device as well since you can do the same on Deck.  
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  • [Alinea Analytics] Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours

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    Elden Ring's player engagement is through the roof: Over 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours

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    Steam accounts for 15.7 million players – 43% of the game's audience – meaning Steam is Elden Ring's biggest platform. PlayStation comes in second with 13.2 million, while Xbox accounts for the remaining 7.4 million:

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    Elden Ring – and especially its DLC – is hard. While it abandons the linear structure of FromSoftware's previous games, giving players more choice when they're stuck, Elden Ring's bosses are some of the most challenging out there.

    I'm looking at you, Malenia and Promised Consort Radahn.
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    Despite the game's mercilessness, 10.9% of Elden Ring players on PlayStation and 10.2% on Steam have unlocked every trophy/achievement in the game. However, just 3.7% of Xbox players managed this feat.

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    The trophy/achievement data clearly shows that Elden Ring players are dedicated – especially on Steam and Xbox. But looking deeper at Alinea's playtime distribution data reveals just how dedicated they really are:

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    The results are striking:

    64% of Elden Ring players on Steam have played for over 50 hoursPlayStation players have triple the share of under-5-hours players, signalling that Elden Ring didn't click for everyone on the platform – perhaps due to the difficulty
    Seven million Steam players – 44.7% of Elden Ring's Steam audience – have played for over 100 hours. That share is 36.7%But perhaps most remarkably of all, almost 700K players across PlayStationand Steamhave played Elden Ring for over 500 hours. Talk about dedication!

    Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours

    Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: Over 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Elden Ring is one of the most successful premium games of all time.

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    Despite the game's mercilessness, 10.9% of Elden Ring players on PlayStation and 10.2% on Steam have unlocked every trophy/achievement in the game. However, just 3.7% of Xbox players managed this feat.

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    I think this is the craziest stat for me.
    A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. 

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    2.5 million is still a big gap, but for some reason I thought the gap between PC and PS4/5 sales of the game was like... monstrously bigger, like 6 - 8 million range.
     

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    That's impressive, but also, is this company genuinely calling Silksong a soulslike or am I reading that wrong? What, just because you have to reclaim your money if you die?
     

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    Angie said:

    I think this is the craziest stat for me.

    A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. And that includes the DLC
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    I mean most game is way under that percentage, that it's close to 10% makes it fairly common. My rarest trophy is the Diablo 2 Platinum at 1.27% rarity. Both Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are under 2.50% as well 

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    I mean most game is way under that percentage, that it's close to 10% makes it fairly common. My rarest trophy is the Diablo 2 Platinum at 1.27% rarity. Both Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are under 2.50% as wellClick to expand...
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    That is why is crazy to me

    Minecraft Platinum

    The game not even hard 

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    Angie said:

    I think this is the craziest stat for me.

    A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. And that includes the DLC
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    There are no DLC trophies
     

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    Does steam make this available or is this estimations from sites that look at user activity?
     

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    There are no DLC trophies

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    The expansion didn't had any Trophy?
     

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    The expansion didn't had any Trophy?

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    Nope, same with Dark Souls. Bloodborne is the only one that added trophies with DLC
     

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    Nope, same with Dark Souls. Bloodborne is the only one that added trophies with DLC

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    I was not aware of that. I will edit it out.

    Always assumed that expansions had Trophies. But I never played them. 

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    Heh I have it on both Steam and PlayStation. About 95 hours on Steam and 4 on PlayStation.
     

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    There are only three games I've topped 100 hours on a single playthrough: Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.
     

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    10% got all the trophies/achievements?!I did it for both PC and PS5.  

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    PS sales much closer to PC than I expected.
     

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    Angie said:

    I think this is the craziest stat for me.

    A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies.
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    If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess.
     

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    If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess.

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    That is why is crazy to me

    Minecraft Platinum

    The game not even hard
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    Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox.

    I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty. 

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    I've got 280 hours on Steam, about 200 hours on PS5 and I'm likely to start a new full playthrough once the Tarnished Edition contents are available on Steam.

    Yeah, I kinda like this game. 

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    The high 100% achievement stat is crazy. People really went in on ER.

    I have 100+ hours on PS5 and once I get a new pc it's pretty likely that I replay this at some point. 

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    Because hard games don't just instantly hand you solutions. Games with friction and the need to actually put time in a learn for a majority of people will have high engagement especially if its a good game.
     

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    I put 110h into it and it would have been a lot better if it was half that time. Too much bloat and repetition.
     

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    Holy fuck over 10% of players on both PC and PS5 got 100%? That is a fucking high percentage.

    God damn.
    Let me check my stats:
    Yep 100%, 215 hours as well.
    Love the game but I didn't expect it to resonate with so many people that that many would get the 100% achievement. 

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    Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox.

    I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty.
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    Makes sense tbh. I suppose to a degree that's the pull for some. For example I bought Furi for that OST and what looked like fun combat. By the end I was playing on the hardest difficulty for the thrill of pulling it off to that OST despite no plans to push that deep into the game.

    I do think the souls series has a certain pull with that kind of audience though, and I suspect half the reason it takes so well is because all the fights are, well in all honesty far from the worst out there. They're mostly fair with the occasional 'cheap' move and beyond learning to work around the few attacks a boss will throw your way that you don't instantly gel with, they're pretty chill. I'd happily argue in favor of something like NG2 being multiple times harder etc. And I think that's why souls games work. They feel hard, but they're pretty lax to overcome too 

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    I have 520h+ on PS4/5.

    Also played around 25h on my brother 's Series X.
    Will definitely replay it on Switch 2 this year.
    Game is generational. 

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    Yeah i have over 500 hours as well and i'll definitely play it again at one point.
     

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    I have over 1000 hours in ER. I tried runs where I played "traditionally" by not using summons and AoW etc and played it like a Dark Souls game basically. And have to say, for those of us that like to play Fromsoft games that way, ER is by far the hardest game I have ever played. Much harder than Sekiro.

    Yet, the game is easy enough that 10% can grab the Platinum. A real triumph in game design and my favorite game of all time. I still think of the lore from time to time. 

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    To think there was a time where Steam wasn't included at launch for Souls games and now it's outperforming not just PS5, but two generations of Playstations. So much have changed in the last decade or so and Steam is such a juggernaut now.

    Seems to have done well everywhere though. 

    jaymzi
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    First I thought how is this possible as 45% is more than the amount of people that finished the game.

    Then I realised Elden Ring can easily take over 100 hours to finish. 

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    Yeah, it's already one of the best games of all time, easily.

    I need to start Shadow of the Erdtree. But holding off because the Switch 2 is launching soon. 

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    Pretty insane. Considering how much it sold especially.
     

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    Dyno said:

    If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess.

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    You don't have to play in that mode though so it doesn't matter how hard it is. With Elden Ring everyone has to play under the same conditions so when you brag to someone else they know what it is that you are talking about.
     

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    I remember when I finally beat the game for the first time after about a month of solid playing since launch I was impressed by the overall percentage stats of people who had already got the late game achievements. It was higher than many games I've seen that are vastly easier and are over in less than 20 hours.

    I'm nowhere close to getting 100% though. 

    Oliver James
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    Is it really that good? I finished De - Da123 Bb, should I play it as a lapsed Souls player?
     

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    You don't have to play in that mode though so it doesn't matter how hard it is. With Elden Ring everyone has to play under the same conditions so when you brag to someone else they know what it is that you are talking about.

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    Oh for sure, I just think that as harder games go ER and the souls games are pretty chill. There's a fair push and pull to them and in most cases, reasonable room to recover. It may just be a personal thing but I find in the harder hack n slash game modes losing your rhythm is a death sentence, but the souls games have that bit more time to recover and rethink I suppose and just feel fairly mellow despite the challenge.

    You're right that the challenge is universal but tbh even that can kinda be defined by the build. My first run of demons was tragic to say the least, then I tried magic on run 2 and had a very different experience 

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    wow that's a big difference in completion percentage between platforms
     

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    The game is harder than average, the game is better than average, the game let's you play how you find it's better, while puts everyone in the same level of accomplisment in regards of difficulty.

    Of course people will be engaged to do 100% when they feel they're progressing, and not just beating everything first time, watching a cutscene, hence and repeat. 

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    Oh for sure, I just think that as harder games go ER and the souls games are pretty chill. There's a fair push and pull to them and in most cases, reasonable room to recover. It may just be a personal thing but I find in the harder hack n slash game modes losing your rhythm is a death sentence, but the souls games have that bit more time to recover and rethink I suppose and just feel fairly mellow despite the challenge.

    You're right that the challenge is universal but tbh even that can kinda be defined by the build. My first run of demons was tragic to say the least, then I tried magic on run 2 and had a very different experience
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    Shared experiences are a big difference makers with these games i think.

    In Elden Ring i never beat that Scarlet Rot Breath Dragon in Caelid despite trying many many times with different strategies and even with the help of online guides, could never beat that thing. If one of my friend told me they beat that guy that would be impressive to me simply because I could not do it but my friend could.

    Conversely if Elden Ring had diffulty settings and my friend told me he beat that Scarlet Rot Breath Dragon in easy mode than that would mean absolutely nothing to me.... because we're not even playing the same game. Hell if my friend beat that thing in Ultra Hard mode while I could not even beat it in Normal mode I like would have no context of that even means, the difference is unimaginable at that point.... I might be tempted to accuse my friend of trying to flex on me or something 

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    I just checked my play time and I was surprised to see it past 500 hours. I still want to do another playthrough of the DLC. 

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    I keep meaning to go for my last trophies too, I just got to do the other ending trophies.
     

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    Oliver James said:

    Is it really that good? I finished De - Da123 Bb, should I play it as a lapsed Souls player?

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    If you liked those games then you'll probably like this too so go for it 

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    I have it on both Steam and PlayStation. Around 400 hours on playstation and 150ish on Steam. It is my "comfort food" game. I bought it 9n Steam so I could play it on my steamdeck when I travel for work and need to unwind.
     

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    ArjanN said:

    Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox.

    I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty.
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    Yeah in games like Skyrim I don't even try for completion on trophies whatsoever. I have 1000s hours in Skyrim and do not have 100% in achievements/platinum trophy. Same for Minecraft. 

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    I have 1041h on PS, but I certainly haven't actually played for that much. I have a habit of leaving it on while doing chores and stuff. Also lots of time just waiting for summons/invasions while doing other things. I actually have it up on my second monitor on my desk right now
     

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    To be honest my biggest takeaway from these stats is wondering what ludicrous business decisions are keeping Sony from releasing Demons Souls on Steam.
     

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    202 hours on Xbox but that includes the DLC.
     

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    The overall completion statistics make a level of sense - it's a game where the main appeal is the gameplay, overcoming challenges, etc. If you are enjoying that, why wouldn't you want to experience every challenge the game has for you? The achievement list essentially just becomes a checklist for everything there is to get out of the game.

    It's a contrast to most modern games where such a big part of the audience is just there for a story, with no intention to fully engage with any mechanics and who'd get upset and give up upon encountering anything they weren't able to beat first try. They're not going to hang around after beating the main story to do any optional side content or challenges that are often tied to achievements. These people probably didn't pick up Elden Ring in the first place. 

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    I don't think it's really sunk in how much of an event this game actually was in the mainstream. So much bigger than their other games.
     
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    [Alinea Analytics] Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours
    Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona Elden Ring's player engagement is through the roof: Over 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Click to expand... Click to shrink... Steam accounts for 15.7 million players – 43% of the game's audience – meaning Steam is Elden Ring's biggest platform. PlayStation comes in second with 13.2 million, while Xbox accounts for the remaining 7.4 million: Click to expand... Click to shrink... Elden Ring – and especially its DLC – is hard. While it abandons the linear structure of FromSoftware's previous games, giving players more choice when they're stuck, Elden Ring's bosses are some of the most challenging out there. I'm looking at you, Malenia and Promised Consort Radahn. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Despite the game's mercilessness, 10.9% of Elden Ring players on PlayStation and 10.2% on Steam have unlocked every trophy/achievement in the game. However, just 3.7% of Xbox players managed this feat. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The trophy/achievement data clearly shows that Elden Ring players are dedicated – especially on Steam and Xbox. But looking deeper at Alinea's playtime distribution data reveals just how dedicated they really are: Click to expand... Click to shrink... The results are striking: 64% of Elden Ring players on Steam have played for over 50 hoursPlayStation players have triple the share of under-5-hours players, signalling that Elden Ring didn't click for everyone on the platform – perhaps due to the difficulty Seven million Steam players – 44.7% of Elden Ring's Steam audience – have played for over 100 hours. That share is 36.7%But perhaps most remarkably of all, almost 700K players across PlayStationand Steamhave played Elden Ring for over 500 hours. Talk about dedication! Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: Over 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Elden Ring is one of the most successful premium games of all time. alineaanalytics.com   OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona Despite the game's mercilessness, 10.9% of Elden Ring players on PlayStation and 10.2% on Steam have unlocked every trophy/achievement in the game. However, just 3.7% of Xbox players managed this feat. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies.  Last edited: Today at 5:32 AM Kalentan Member Oct 25, 2017 50,699 2.5 million is still a big gap, but for some reason I thought the gap between PC and PS4/5 sales of the game was like... monstrously bigger, like 6 - 8 million range.   ResetGreyWolf Member Oct 27, 2017 6,768 That's impressive, but also, is this company genuinely calling Silksong a soulslike or am I reading that wrong? What, just because you have to reclaim your money if you die?   dusan Member Aug 2, 2020 6,763 Nightreign trainings begins.   Jolkien Member Oct 25, 2017 4,310 Anchorage/Alaska Angie said: I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. And that includes the DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean most game is way under that percentage, that it's close to 10% makes it fairly common. My rarest trophy is the Diablo 2 Platinum at 1.27% rarity. Both Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are under 2.50% as well  OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona Jolkien said: I mean most game is way under that percentage, that it's close to 10% makes it fairly common. My rarest trophy is the Diablo 2 Platinum at 1.27% rarity. Both Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are under 2.50% as wellClick to expand... Click to shrink... That is why is crazy to me Minecraft Platinum The game not even hard  PlayBee One Winged Slayer Member Nov 8, 2017 6,738 Angie said: I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. And that includes the DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... There are no DLC trophies   EvilBoris Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest Verified Oct 29, 2017 18,087 Does steam make this available or is this estimations from sites that look at user activity?   OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona PlayBee said: There are no DLC trophies Click to expand... Click to shrink... The expansion didn't had any Trophy?   PlayBee One Winged Slayer Member Nov 8, 2017 6,738 Angie said: The expansion didn't had any Trophy? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nope, same with Dark Souls. Bloodborne is the only one that added trophies with DLC   OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona PlayBee said: Nope, same with Dark Souls. Bloodborne is the only one that added trophies with DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... I was not aware of that. I will edit it out. Always assumed that expansions had Trophies. But I never played them.  southwest Member Sep 15, 2022 2,759 Heh I have it on both Steam and PlayStation. About 95 hours on Steam and 4 on PlayStation.   antitrop Member Oct 25, 2017 14,949 There are only three games I've topped 100 hours on a single playthrough: Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.   Necron ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 9,850 Switzerland 10% got all the trophies/achievements?!I did it for both PC and PS5. 👁️   Mung Member Nov 2, 2017 4,454 PS sales much closer to PC than I expected.   Last edited: Today at 6:00 AM Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,830 Angie said: I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess.   ArjanN Member Oct 25, 2017 11,493 Dyno said: If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Angie said: That is why is crazy to me Minecraft Platinum The game not even hard Click to expand... Click to shrink... Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox. I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty.  Last edited: Today at 5:59 AM Menome "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 7,133 I've got 280 hours on Steam, about 200 hours on PS5 and I'm likely to start a new full playthrough once the Tarnished Edition contents are available on Steam. Yeah, I kinda like this game.  Creamium Member Oct 25, 2017 10,466 Belgium The high 100% achievement stat is crazy. People really went in on ER. I have 100+ hours on PS5 and once I get a new pc it's pretty likely that I replay this at some point.  Shahadan Member Oct 27, 2017 5,591 I should have been an analyst   Nateo Member Oct 27, 2017 8,987 Because hard games don't just instantly hand you solutions. Games with friction and the need to actually put time in a learn for a majority of people will have high engagement especially if its a good game.   Mr.Deadshot Member Oct 27, 2017 23,203 I put 110h into it and it would have been a lot better if it was half that time. Too much bloat and repetition.   FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,615 Tokyo Holy fuck over 10% of players on both PC and PS5 got 100%? That is a fucking high percentage. God damn. Let me check my stats: Yep 100%, 215 hours as well. Love the game but I didn't expect it to resonate with so many people that that many would get the 100% achievement.  Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,830 ArjanN said: Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox. I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Makes sense tbh. I suppose to a degree that's the pull for some. For example I bought Furi for that OST and what looked like fun combat. By the end I was playing on the hardest difficulty for the thrill of pulling it off to that OST despite no plans to push that deep into the game. I do think the souls series has a certain pull with that kind of audience though, and I suspect half the reason it takes so well is because all the fights are, well in all honesty far from the worst out there. They're mostly fair with the occasional 'cheap' move and beyond learning to work around the few attacks a boss will throw your way that you don't instantly gel with, they're pretty chill. I'd happily argue in favor of something like NG2 being multiple times harder etc. And I think that's why souls games work. They feel hard, but they're pretty lax to overcome too  Redis Member Mar 1, 2025 222 I have 520h+ on PS4/5. Also played around 25h on my brother 's Series X. Will definitely replay it on Switch 2 this year. Game is generational.  Last edited: Today at 6:34 AM Z'ard "This guy are sick" Member Mar 5, 2019 1,550 Ukraine Yeah i have over 500 hours as well and i'll definitely play it again at one point.   thezboson Member Oct 27, 2017 1,380 I have over 1000 hours in ER. I tried runs where I played "traditionally" by not using summons and AoW etc and played it like a Dark Souls game basically. And have to say, for those of us that like to play Fromsoft games that way, ER is by far the hardest game I have ever played. Much harder than Sekiro. Yet, the game is easy enough that 10% can grab the Platinum. A real triumph in game design and my favorite game of all time. I still think of the lore from time to time.  Bede-x Member Oct 25, 2017 12,058 To think there was a time where Steam wasn't included at launch for Souls games and now it's outperforming not just PS5, but two generations of Playstations. So much have changed in the last decade or so and Steam is such a juggernaut now. Seems to have done well everywhere though.  jaymzi Member Jul 22, 2019 7,202 First I thought how is this possible as 45% is more than the amount of people that finished the game. Then I realised Elden Ring can easily take over 100 hours to finish.  onibirdo Member Dec 9, 2020 3,590 GOAT   raketenrolf Member Oct 28, 2017 5,919 Germany Yeah, it's already one of the best games of all time, easily. I need to start Shadow of the Erdtree. But holding off because the Switch 2 is launching soon.  Mephissto Member Mar 8, 2024 1,231 Pretty insane. Considering how much it sold especially.   Rud Member Mar 3, 2025 140 United States Dyno said: If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't have to play in that mode though so it doesn't matter how hard it is. With Elden Ring everyone has to play under the same conditions so when you brag to someone else they know what it is that you are talking about.   Gelf Member Oct 27, 2017 6,156 I remember when I finally beat the game for the first time after about a month of solid playing since launch I was impressed by the overall percentage stats of people who had already got the late game achievements. It was higher than many games I've seen that are vastly easier and are over in less than 20 hours. I'm nowhere close to getting 100% though.  Oliver James Avenger Oct 25, 2017 9,838 Is it really that good? I finished De - Da123 Bb, should I play it as a lapsed Souls player?   Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,830 Rud said: You don't have to play in that mode though so it doesn't matter how hard it is. With Elden Ring everyone has to play under the same conditions so when you brag to someone else they know what it is that you are talking about. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh for sure, I just think that as harder games go ER and the souls games are pretty chill. There's a fair push and pull to them and in most cases, reasonable room to recover. It may just be a personal thing but I find in the harder hack n slash game modes losing your rhythm is a death sentence, but the souls games have that bit more time to recover and rethink I suppose and just feel fairly mellow despite the challenge. You're right that the challenge is universal but tbh even that can kinda be defined by the build. My first run of demons was tragic to say the least, then I tried magic on run 2 and had a very different experience  hydrophilic attack went to hypogean jail Member Oct 25, 2017 23,622 Sweden wow that's a big difference in completion percentage between platforms   Western Yokai Member Feb 14, 2025 175 The game is harder than average, the game is better than average, the game let's you play how you find it's better, while puts everyone in the same level of accomplisment in regards of difficulty. Of course people will be engaged to do 100% when they feel they're progressing, and not just beating everything first time, watching a cutscene, hence and repeat.  Rud Member Mar 3, 2025 140 United States Dyno said: Oh for sure, I just think that as harder games go ER and the souls games are pretty chill. There's a fair push and pull to them and in most cases, reasonable room to recover. It may just be a personal thing but I find in the harder hack n slash game modes losing your rhythm is a death sentence, but the souls games have that bit more time to recover and rethink I suppose and just feel fairly mellow despite the challenge. You're right that the challenge is universal but tbh even that can kinda be defined by the build. My first run of demons was tragic to say the least, then I tried magic on run 2 and had a very different experience Click to expand... Click to shrink... Shared experiences are a big difference makers with these games i think. In Elden Ring i never beat that Scarlet Rot Breath Dragon in Caelid despite trying many many times with different strategies and even with the help of online guides, could never beat that thing. If one of my friend told me they beat that guy that would be impressive to me simply because I could not do it but my friend could. Conversely if Elden Ring had diffulty settings and my friend told me he beat that Scarlet Rot Breath Dragon in easy mode than that would mean absolutely nothing to me.... because we're not even playing the same game. Hell if my friend beat that thing in Ultra Hard mode while I could not even beat it in Normal mode I like would have no context of that even means, the difference is unimaginable at that point.... I might be tempted to accuse my friend of trying to flex on me or something  Last edited: Today at 7:17 AM Flying Caterpillar Member Aug 14, 2024 202 I just checked my play time and I was surprised to see it past 500 hours. I still want to do another playthrough of the DLC.  mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 33,239 Gongaga I keep meaning to go for my last trophies too, I just got to do the other ending trophies.   Last edited: Today at 7:19 AM Menchin Member Apr 1, 2019 6,012 Oliver James said: Is it really that good? I finished De - Da123 Bb, should I play it as a lapsed Souls player? Click to expand... Click to shrink... If you liked those games then you'll probably like this too so go for it  Rainer516 Member Oct 29, 2017 1,491 I have it on both Steam and PlayStation. Around 400 hours on playstation and 150ish on Steam. It is my "comfort food" game. I bought it 9n Steam so I could play it on my steamdeck when I travel for work and need to unwind.   RPGam3r Member Oct 27, 2017 16,450 ArjanN said: Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox. I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah in games like Skyrim I don't even try for completion on trophies whatsoever. I have 1000s hours in Skyrim and do not have 100% in achievements/platinum trophy. Same for Minecraft.  jotun? Member Oct 28, 2017 5,167 I have 1041h on PS, but I certainly haven't actually played for that much. I have a habit of leaving it on while doing chores and stuff. Also lots of time just waiting for summons/invasions while doing other things. I actually have it up on my second monitor on my desk right now   Altima VII Member Mar 2, 2025 177 To be honest my biggest takeaway from these stats is wondering what ludicrous business decisions are keeping Sony from releasing Demons Souls on Steam.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 29,077 202 hours on Xbox but that includes the DLC.   CladInShadows Member May 2, 2024 292 The overall completion statistics make a level of sense - it's a game where the main appeal is the gameplay, overcoming challenges, etc. If you are enjoying that, why wouldn't you want to experience every challenge the game has for you? The achievement list essentially just becomes a checklist for everything there is to get out of the game. It's a contrast to most modern games where such a big part of the audience is just there for a story, with no intention to fully engage with any mechanics and who'd get upset and give up upon encountering anything they weren't able to beat first try. They're not going to hang around after beating the main story to do any optional side content or challenges that are often tied to achievements. These people probably didn't pick up Elden Ring in the first place.  Sumio Mondo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,753 United Kingdom I don't think it's really sunk in how much of an event this game actually was in the mainstream. So much bigger than their other games.   #alinea #analytics #elden #rings #player
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    [Alinea Analytics] Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours
    Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona Elden Ring's player engagement is through the roof: Over 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Click to expand... Click to shrink... Steam accounts for 15.7 million players – 43% of the game's audience – meaning Steam is Elden Ring's biggest platform. PlayStation comes in second with 13.2 million, while Xbox accounts for the remaining 7.4 million: Click to expand... Click to shrink... Elden Ring – and especially its DLC – is hard. While it abandons the linear structure of FromSoftware's previous games, giving players more choice when they're stuck, Elden Ring's bosses are some of the most challenging out there. I'm looking at you, Malenia and Promised Consort Radahn. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Despite the game's mercilessness, 10.9% of Elden Ring players on PlayStation and 10.2% on Steam have unlocked every trophy/achievement in the game. However, just 3.7% of Xbox players managed this feat. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The trophy/achievement data clearly shows that Elden Ring players are dedicated – especially on Steam and Xbox. But looking deeper at Alinea's playtime distribution data reveals just how dedicated they really are: Click to expand... Click to shrink... The results are striking: 64% of Elden Ring players on Steam have played for over 50 hours (versus 49% for PlayStation players) PlayStation players have triple the share of under-5-hours players, signalling that Elden Ring didn't click for everyone on the platform – perhaps due to the difficulty Seven million Steam players – 44.7% of Elden Ring's Steam audience – have played for over 100 hours. That share is 36.7% (almost 5 million players for PlayStation) But perhaps most remarkably of all, almost 700K players across PlayStation (2.7%) and Steam (2.1%) have played Elden Ring for over 500 hours. Talk about dedication! Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Elden Ring’s player engagement is through the roof: Over 45% of its Steam players have played for 100+ hours Elden Ring is one of the most successful premium games of all time. alineaanalytics.com   OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona Despite the game's mercilessness, 10.9% of Elden Ring players on PlayStation and 10.2% on Steam have unlocked every trophy/achievement in the game. However, just 3.7% of Xbox players managed this feat. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies.  Last edited: Today at 5:32 AM Kalentan Member Oct 25, 2017 50,699 2.5 million is still a big gap, but for some reason I thought the gap between PC and PS4/5 sales of the game was like... monstrously bigger, like 6 - 8 million range.   ResetGreyWolf Member Oct 27, 2017 6,768 That's impressive, but also, is this company genuinely calling Silksong a soulslike or am I reading that wrong? What, just because you have to reclaim your money if you die?   dusan Member Aug 2, 2020 6,763 Nightreign trainings begins.   Jolkien Member Oct 25, 2017 4,310 Anchorage/Alaska Angie said: I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. And that includes the DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean most game is way under that percentage, that it's close to 10% makes it fairly common. My rarest trophy is the Diablo 2 Platinum at 1.27% rarity. Both Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are under 2.50% as well (on PlayStation)  OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona Jolkien said: I mean most game is way under that percentage, that it's close to 10% makes it fairly common. My rarest trophy is the Diablo 2 Platinum at 1.27% rarity. Both Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are under 2.50% as well (on PlayStation) Click to expand... Click to shrink... That is why is crazy to me Minecraft Platinum The game not even hard  PlayBee One Winged Slayer Member Nov 8, 2017 6,738 Angie said: I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. And that includes the DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... There are no DLC trophies   EvilBoris Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest Verified Oct 29, 2017 18,087 Does steam make this available or is this estimations from sites that look at user activity?   OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona PlayBee said: There are no DLC trophies Click to expand... Click to shrink... The expansion didn't had any Trophy?   PlayBee One Winged Slayer Member Nov 8, 2017 6,738 Angie said: The expansion didn't had any Trophy? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nope, same with Dark Souls. Bloodborne is the only one that added trophies with DLC   OP OP Angie Best Avatar Thread Ever! Member Nov 20, 2017 49,860 Kingdom of Corona PlayBee said: Nope, same with Dark Souls. Bloodborne is the only one that added trophies with DLC Click to expand... Click to shrink... I was not aware of that. I will edit it out. Always assumed that expansions had Trophies. But I never played them.  southwest Member Sep 15, 2022 2,759 Heh I have it on both Steam and PlayStation. About 95 hours on Steam and 4 on PlayStation.   antitrop Member Oct 25, 2017 14,949 There are only three games I've topped 100 hours on a single playthrough: Elden Ring (110), Baldur's Gate 3 (130), and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (120).   Necron ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 25, 2017 9,850 Switzerland 10% got all the trophies/achievements?! [Insanity] I did it for both PC and PS5. 👁️   Mung Member Nov 2, 2017 4,454 PS sales much closer to PC than I expected.   Last edited: Today at 6:00 AM Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,830 Angie said: I think this is the craziest stat for me. A game so hard having 10% of the players to unlock all trophies. Click to expand... Click to shrink... If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess.   ArjanN Member Oct 25, 2017 11,493 Dyno said: If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Angie said: That is why is crazy to me Minecraft Platinum The game not even hard Click to expand... Click to shrink... Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox. I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty.  Last edited: Today at 5:59 AM Menome "This guy are sick" Member Oct 25, 2017 7,133 I've got 280 hours on Steam, about 200 hours on PS5 and I'm likely to start a new full playthrough once the Tarnished Edition contents are available on Steam. Yeah, I kinda like this game.  Creamium Member Oct 25, 2017 10,466 Belgium The high 100% achievement stat is crazy. People really went in on ER. I have 100+ hours on PS5 and once I get a new pc it's pretty likely that I replay this at some point.  Shahadan Member Oct 27, 2017 5,591 I should have been an analyst   Nateo Member Oct 27, 2017 8,987 Because hard games don't just instantly hand you solutions. Games with friction and the need to actually put time in a learn for a majority of people will have high engagement especially if its a good game.   Mr.Deadshot Member Oct 27, 2017 23,203 I put 110h into it and it would have been a lot better if it was half that time. Too much bloat and repetition.   FF Seraphim Member Oct 26, 2017 16,615 Tokyo Holy fuck over 10% of players on both PC and PS5 got 100%? That is a fucking high percentage. God damn. Let me check my stats: Yep 100%, 215 hours as well. Love the game but I didn't expect it to resonate with so many people that that many would get the 100% achievement.  Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,830 ArjanN said: Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox. I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Makes sense tbh. I suppose to a degree that's the pull for some. For example I bought Furi for that OST and what looked like fun combat. By the end I was playing on the hardest difficulty for the thrill of pulling it off to that OST despite no plans to push that deep into the game. I do think the souls series has a certain pull with that kind of audience though, and I suspect half the reason it takes so well is because all the fights are, well in all honesty far from the worst out there. They're mostly fair with the occasional 'cheap' move and beyond learning to work around the few attacks a boss will throw your way that you don't instantly gel with, they're pretty chill. I'd happily argue in favor of something like NG2 being multiple times harder etc. And I think that's why souls games work. They feel hard, but they're pretty lax to overcome too  Redis Member Mar 1, 2025 222 I have 520h+ on PS4/5 (two Platinum trophies, around 8 full playthroughs and two SotE playthroughs+ one rune level 1 run). Also played around 25h on my brother 's Series X. Will definitely replay it on Switch 2 this year. Game is generational.  Last edited: Today at 6:34 AM Z'ard "This guy are sick" Member Mar 5, 2019 1,550 Ukraine Yeah i have over 500 hours as well and i'll definitely play it again at one point.   thezboson Member Oct 27, 2017 1,380 I have over 1000 hours in ER. I tried runs where I played "traditionally" by not using summons and AoW etc and played it like a Dark Souls game basically. And have to say, for those of us that like to play Fromsoft games that way, ER is by far the hardest game I have ever played. Much harder than Sekiro. Yet, the game is easy enough that 10% can grab the Platinum. A real triumph in game design and my favorite game of all time. I still think of the lore from time to time.  Bede-x Member Oct 25, 2017 12,058 To think there was a time where Steam wasn't included at launch for Souls games and now it's outperforming not just PS5, but two generations of Playstations. So much have changed in the last decade or so and Steam is such a juggernaut now. Seems to have done well everywhere though.  jaymzi Member Jul 22, 2019 7,202 First I thought how is this possible as 45% is more than the amount of people that finished the game. Then I realised Elden Ring can easily take over 100 hours to finish.  onibirdo Member Dec 9, 2020 3,590 GOAT   raketenrolf Member Oct 28, 2017 5,919 Germany Yeah, it's already one of the best games of all time, easily. I need to start Shadow of the Erdtree. But holding off because the Switch 2 is launching soon.  Mephissto Member Mar 8, 2024 1,231 Pretty insane. Considering how much it sold especially.   Rud Member Mar 3, 2025 140 United States Dyno said: If anything it says a lot more about how overstated the difficulty is to me. People do it for the bragging rights because it's perceived as hard, but DMC DMD mode etc are far far harder, just they dont have the same hype cycle and rep so people don't try for it as much I guess. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't have to play in that mode though so it doesn't matter how hard it is. With Elden Ring everyone has to play under the same conditions so when you brag to someone else they know what it is that you are talking about.   Gelf Member Oct 27, 2017 6,156 I remember when I finally beat the game for the first time after about a month of solid playing since launch I was impressed by the overall percentage stats of people who had already got the late game achievements. It was higher than many games I've seen that are vastly easier and are over in less than 20 hours. I'm nowhere close to getting 100% though.  Oliver James Avenger Oct 25, 2017 9,838 Is it really that good? I finished De - Da123 Bb, should I play it as a lapsed Souls player?   Dyno AVALANCHE The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 16,830 Rud said: You don't have to play in that mode though so it doesn't matter how hard it is. With Elden Ring everyone has to play under the same conditions so when you brag to someone else they know what it is that you are talking about. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Oh for sure, I just think that as harder games go ER and the souls games are pretty chill. There's a fair push and pull to them and in most cases, reasonable room to recover. It may just be a personal thing but I find in the harder hack n slash game modes losing your rhythm is a death sentence, but the souls games have that bit more time to recover and rethink I suppose and just feel fairly mellow despite the challenge. You're right that the challenge is universal but tbh even that can kinda be defined by the build. My first run of demons was tragic to say the least, then I tried magic on run 2 and had a very different experience  hydrophilic attack went to hypogean jail Member Oct 25, 2017 23,622 Sweden wow that's a big difference in completion percentage between platforms   Western Yokai Member Feb 14, 2025 175 The game is harder than average, the game is better than average, the game let's you play how you find it's better, while puts everyone in the same level of accomplisment in regards of difficulty. Of course people will be engaged to do 100% when they feel they're progressing, and not just beating everything first time, watching a cutscene, hence and repeat.  Rud Member Mar 3, 2025 140 United States Dyno said: Oh for sure, I just think that as harder games go ER and the souls games are pretty chill. There's a fair push and pull to them and in most cases, reasonable room to recover. It may just be a personal thing but I find in the harder hack n slash game modes losing your rhythm is a death sentence, but the souls games have that bit more time to recover and rethink I suppose and just feel fairly mellow despite the challenge. You're right that the challenge is universal but tbh even that can kinda be defined by the build. My first run of demons was tragic to say the least, then I tried magic on run 2 and had a very different experience Click to expand... Click to shrink... Shared experiences are a big difference makers with these games i think. In Elden Ring i never beat that Scarlet Rot Breath Dragon in Caelid despite trying many many times with different strategies and even with the help of online guides, could never beat that thing. If one of my friend told me they beat that guy that would be impressive to me simply because I could not do it but my friend could. Conversely if Elden Ring had diffulty settings and my friend told me he beat that Scarlet Rot Breath Dragon in easy mode than that would mean absolutely nothing to me.... because we're not even playing the same game. Hell if my friend beat that thing in Ultra Hard mode while I could not even beat it in Normal mode I like would have no context of that even means, the difference is unimaginable at that point.... I might be tempted to accuse my friend of trying to flex on me or something ("nobody told you to play on Ultra hard don't try to flex on my like that makes you better" or something like that)  Last edited: Today at 7:17 AM Flying Caterpillar Member Aug 14, 2024 202 I just checked my play time and I was surprised to see it past 500 hours. I still want to do another playthrough of the DLC.  mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 33,239 Gongaga I keep meaning to go for my last trophies too, I just got to do the other ending trophies.   Last edited: Today at 7:19 AM Menchin Member Apr 1, 2019 6,012 Oliver James said: Is it really that good? I finished De - Da123 Bb, should I play it as a lapsed Souls player? Click to expand... Click to shrink... If you liked those games then you'll probably like this too so go for it  Rainer516 Member Oct 29, 2017 1,491 I have it on both Steam and PlayStation. Around 400 hours on playstation and 150ish on Steam. It is my "comfort food" game. I bought it 9n Steam so I could play it on my steamdeck when I travel for work and need to unwind.   RPGam3r Member Oct 27, 2017 16,450 ArjanN said: Minecraft has the GTA/Skyrim thing, where most of the audience is playing it as a sandbox. I've noticed harder games tend to have a decent amount of self-selection, where a really challenging roguelike or bullethell shmup has higher completion percentages on the harder achievements than a more mainstream game with much lower difficulty. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah in games like Skyrim I don't even try for completion on trophies whatsoever. I have 1000s hours in Skyrim and do not have 100% in achievements/platinum trophy. Same for Minecraft.  jotun? Member Oct 28, 2017 5,167 I have 1041h on PS, but I certainly haven't actually played for that much. I have a habit of leaving it on while doing chores and stuff. Also lots of time just waiting for summons/invasions while doing other things. I actually have it up on my second monitor on my desk right now   Altima VII Member Mar 2, 2025 177 To be honest my biggest takeaway from these stats is wondering what ludicrous business decisions are keeping Sony from releasing Demons Souls on Steam.   Kill3r7 Member Oct 25, 2017 29,077 202 hours on Xbox but that includes the DLC.   CladInShadows Member May 2, 2024 292 The overall completion statistics make a level of sense - it's a game where the main appeal is the gameplay, overcoming challenges, etc. If you are enjoying that, why wouldn't you want to experience every challenge the game has for you? The achievement list essentially just becomes a checklist for everything there is to get out of the game. It's a contrast to most modern games where such a big part of the audience is just there for a story, with no intention to fully engage with any mechanics and who'd get upset and give up upon encountering anything they weren't able to beat first try. They're not going to hang around after beating the main story to do any optional side content or challenges that are often tied to achievements. These people probably didn't pick up Elden Ring in the first place.  Sumio Mondo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,753 United Kingdom I don't think it's really sunk in how much of an event this game actually was in the mainstream. So much bigger than their other games.  
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    As per the SteamOS 3.7 changelog that just hit, Valve updated the recovery image for the Steam Deck and now has steps on how to install SteamOS on the Legion Go, ROG Ally, any AMD handheld, apparently. Valve mentions that people can "test" SteamOS on these devices so I'm unsure if these images are ready for prime time.

    Steam Support :: SteamOS Recovery and Installation

    help.steampowered.com

    SteamOS 3.7 changelog
    Updated SteamOS webpage with FAQ and other info
     

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    ASleepingMonkey
    The Fallen

    Oct 26, 2017

    4,579

    Iowa

    As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?
     

    PianoBlack
    Member

    May 24, 2018

    7,519

    United States

    Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.
     

    MrCuddles
    Member

    Oct 28, 2017

    691

    PianoBlack said:

    Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.

    Click to expand...
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    The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.
     

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    MrCuddles said:

    The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.

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    Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update. 

    jroc74
    Member

    Oct 27, 2017

    34,068

    Welp.
     

    neoak
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    16,867

    ASleepingMonkey said:

    As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?

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    Yes, it's pretty close to it
     

    SaintNicholas98
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    1,848

    super-famicom said:

    Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update.

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    Or your games not booting because the OS decided it doesn't like the mouse you always use 

    KanjoBazooie
    ▲ Legend ▲
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    32,726

    Chicago

    bye Microsoft
     

    Maximo
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    10,981

    Bazzite is honestly still the better option.
     

    Brot
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    6,798

    the edge

    Maximo said:

    Bazzite is honestly still the better option.

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    How so?
     

    ELEGYELEGYELEGY
    Member

    Apr 16, 2025

    59

    Nice I'll try it at some point on my LeGo, but using windows on it isn't nearly as bad as its made out to be, so I'll just use the trusty SteamDeck instead
     

    Tobor
    Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    34,076

    Very close to letting us install on an AMD box. Which is interesting.

    Framework desktop with an official Steam OS would be awesome. I know you can do Bazzite, but I prefer official if possible. 

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    Brot said:

    How so?

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    You can do PC stuff on Bazzite. Steam OS, at least on a Steam Deck, while it does have a desktop environment, is kinda limited in what you can really do.

    Also, Bazzite isn't the only Linux distro with a handheld mode. Nobara and CachyOS are also great choices. Bazzite and Nobara also have Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher installed by default, Cachy also has them available but you need to just install a gaming package. 

    maximumzero
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    24,842

    New Orleans, LA

    Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.
     

    Dinjoralo
    Member

    Oct 25, 2017

    11,725

    PianoBlack said:

    Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.

    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    You don't need to fiddle with multiple apps that don't all work with controller to update the OS and drivers.

    You don't need to log in with the touch screen when it reboots.
    Everything with Big Picture works more smoothly and reliably.
    Maybe better battery life with less background junk running.
    Because Fuck Microsoft. 

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    maximumzero said:

    Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.

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    See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers. 

    Jakartalado
    Member

    Oct 27, 2017

    2,781

    São Paulo, Brazil

    super-famicom said:

    See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers.

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    Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware.

    I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia.... 

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    Jakartalado said:

    Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware.

    I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia....
    Click to expand...
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    You can run any of the distros I mentioned with Nvidia cards, though. I have a 5080 and used Nobara before settling on Cachy.

    And MSI Claw is a portable system that is all Intel. People are using Bazzite and Cachy on that too. But yeah, there's no portable system that has Nvidia tech iirc. 

    Mocha Joe
    Member

    Jun 2, 2021

    13,430

    Excellent. More OS alternatives the better, fuck Microsoft
     

    Millstone
    Member

    Feb 17, 2025

    450

    EY YO

    INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT

    How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot? 

    ragolliangatan
    Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo
    Member

    Aug 31, 2019

    6,370

    can't seem to find the steam os image from their link- was gonna set it up on my rog ally
     

    super-famicom
    Avenger

    Oct 26, 2017

    30,672

    Millstone said:

    EY YO

    INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT

    How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot?
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Heroic Launcher and Lutris can take care of a lot of non-Steam games 
    #you #can #now #install #steamos
    You can now install SteamOS on the ROG Ally, Legion Go and other AMD handhelds (directly from Valve)
    Bill Gaitas Member Oct 25, 2017 4,119 As per the SteamOS 3.7 changelog that just hit, Valve updated the recovery image for the Steam Deck and now has steps on how to install SteamOS on the Legion Go, ROG Ally, any AMD handheld, apparently. Valve mentions that people can "test" SteamOS on these devices so I'm unsure if these images are ready for prime time. Steam Support :: SteamOS Recovery and Installation help.steampowered.com SteamOS 3.7 changelog Updated SteamOS webpage with FAQ and other info   Last edited: 10 minutes ago ASleepingMonkey The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 4,579 Iowa As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?   PianoBlack Member May 24, 2018 7,519 United States Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.   MrCuddles Member Oct 28, 2017 691 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 MrCuddles said: The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update.  jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,068 Welp.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,867 ASleepingMonkey said: As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, it's pretty close to it   SaintNicholas98 Member Oct 25, 2017 1,848 super-famicom said: Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Or your games not booting because the OS decided it doesn't like the mouse you always use  KanjoBazooie ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 26, 2017 32,726 Chicago bye Microsoft   Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,981 Bazzite is honestly still the better option.   Brot Member Oct 25, 2017 6,798 the edge Maximo said: Bazzite is honestly still the better option. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How so?   ELEGYELEGYELEGY Member Apr 16, 2025 59 Nice I'll try it at some point on my LeGo, but using windows on it isn't nearly as bad as its made out to be, so I'll just use the trusty SteamDeck instead   Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 34,076 Very close to letting us install on an AMD box. Which is interesting. Framework desktop with an official Steam OS would be awesome. I know you can do Bazzite, but I prefer official if possible.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Brot said: How so? Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can do PC stuff on Bazzite. Steam OS, at least on a Steam Deck, while it does have a desktop environment, is kinda limited in what you can really do. Also, Bazzite isn't the only Linux distro with a handheld mode. Nobara and CachyOS are also great choices. Bazzite and Nobara also have Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher installed by default, Cachy also has them available but you need to just install a gaming package.  maximumzero Member Oct 25, 2017 24,842 New Orleans, LA Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,725 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't need to fiddle with multiple apps that don't all work with controller to update the OS and drivers. You don't need to log in with the touch screen when it reboots. Everything with Big Picture works more smoothly and reliably. Maybe better battery life with less background junk running. Because Fuck Microsoft.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 maximumzero said: Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers.  Jakartalado Member Oct 27, 2017 2,781 São Paulo, Brazil super-famicom said: See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia....  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Jakartalado said: Pretty surehe wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia.... Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can run any of the distros I mentioned with Nvidia cards, though. I have a 5080 and used Nobara before settling on Cachy. And MSI Claw is a portable system that is all Intel. People are using Bazzite and Cachy on that too. But yeah, there's no portable system that has Nvidia tech iirc.  Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,430 Excellent. More OS alternatives the better, fuck Microsoft   Millstone Member Feb 17, 2025 450 EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot?  ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,370 can't seem to find the steam os image from their link- was gonna set it up on my rog ally   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Millstone said: EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heroic Launcher and Lutris can take care of a lot of non-Steam games  #you #can #now #install #steamos
    WWW.RESETERA.COM
    You can now install SteamOS on the ROG Ally, Legion Go and other AMD handhelds (directly from Valve)
    Bill Gaitas Member Oct 25, 2017 4,119 As per the SteamOS 3.7 changelog that just hit, Valve updated the recovery image for the Steam Deck and now has steps on how to install SteamOS on the Legion Go, ROG Ally, any AMD handheld, apparently. Valve mentions that people can "test" SteamOS on these devices so I'm unsure if these images are ready for prime time. Steam Support :: SteamOS Recovery and Installation help.steampowered.com SteamOS 3.7 changelog Updated SteamOS webpage with FAQ and other info   Last edited: 10 minutes ago ASleepingMonkey The Fallen Oct 26, 2017 4,579 Iowa As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up?   PianoBlack Member May 24, 2018 7,519 United States Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want.   MrCuddles Member Oct 28, 2017 691 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide.   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 MrCuddles said: The peace of mind of not using an OS developed by a company that's complicit in an ongoing genocide. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update.  jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 34,068 Welp.   neoak Member Oct 25, 2017 16,867 ASleepingMonkey said: As someone who doesn't have a ROG or Legion but has played many hours on Steam Deck, does this basically give you a comparable experience to the Deck in terms of getting games downloaded, navigating Steam, etc etc? Is this a big step up? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, it's pretty close to it   SaintNicholas98 Member Oct 25, 2017 1,848 super-famicom said: Also not having to worry about your gaming sessions getting interrupted by a system update. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Or your games not booting because the OS decided it doesn't like the mouse you always use  KanjoBazooie ▲ Legend ▲ Avenger Oct 26, 2017 32,726 Chicago bye Microsoft   Maximo Member Oct 25, 2017 10,981 Bazzite is honestly still the better option.   Brot Member Oct 25, 2017 6,798 the edge Maximo said: Bazzite is honestly still the better option. Click to expand... Click to shrink... How so?   ELEGYELEGYELEGY Member Apr 16, 2025 59 Nice I'll try it at some point on my LeGo, but using windows on it isn't nearly as bad as its made out to be, so I'll just use the trusty SteamDeck instead   Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 34,076 Very close to letting us install on an AMD box. Which is interesting. Framework desktop with an official Steam OS would be awesome. I know you can do Bazzite, but I prefer official if possible.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Brot said: How so? Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can do PC stuff on Bazzite (run Office style apps and any other app you'd use on a PC). Steam OS, at least on a Steam Deck, while it does have a desktop environment, is kinda limited in what you can really do. Also, Bazzite isn't the only Linux distro with a handheld mode. Nobara and CachyOS are also great choices. Bazzite and Nobara also have Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher installed by default, Cachy also has them available but you need to just install a gaming package (literally click on a couple things after the initial install).  maximumzero Member Oct 25, 2017 24,842 New Orleans, LA Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs.   Dinjoralo Member Oct 25, 2017 11,725 PianoBlack said: Interesting, I guess you'd do it for the power management / some system QoL stuff like login? I'm not sure what I get when I can already use Steam big picture mode on Windows and it has the full "console" UI, except I can also switch to Game Pass or whatever else whenever I want. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You don't need to fiddle with multiple apps that don't all work with controller to update the OS and drivers. You don't need to log in with the touch screen when it reboots. Everything with Big Picture works more smoothly and reliably. Maybe better battery life with less background junk running. Because Fuck Microsoft.  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 maximumzero said: Hopefully someone gets this up and running on PCs. Click to expand... Click to shrink... See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers (Steam OS is based on Arch Linux).  Jakartalado Member Oct 27, 2017 2,781 São Paulo, Brazil super-famicom said: See my post above yours. You don't have to wait; there are already Linux distros that have a focus on gaming, while also providing everything else a PC operating system usually offers (Steam OS is based on Arch Linux). Click to expand... Click to shrink... Pretty sure (based on statistics) he wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia....  super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Jakartalado said: Pretty sure (based on statistics) he wants that for non-AMD hardware. I would LOVE to have a portable system with Ryzen + Nvidia.... Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can run any of the distros I mentioned with Nvidia cards, though. I have a 5080 and used Nobara before settling on Cachy. And MSI Claw is a portable system that is all Intel. People are using Bazzite and Cachy on that too. But yeah, there's no portable system that has Nvidia tech iirc.  Mocha Joe Member Jun 2, 2021 13,430 Excellent. More OS alternatives the better, fuck Microsoft   Millstone Member Feb 17, 2025 450 EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot?  ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,370 can't seem to find the steam os image from their link- was gonna set it up on my rog ally   super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 30,672 Millstone said: EY YO INSTALLING THIS ON MY LEGION GO TONIGHT How easy is it to play non steam games now? Still need to dual boot? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heroic Launcher and Lutris can take care of a lot of non-Steam games 
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