amara Member Nov 23, 2021 5,483 Dynasty Warriors Origins’ gay undertones were kind of an accident, series producer admits - AUTOMATON WEST According to Dynasty Warriors Origins producer Tomohiko Sho, the game's homoerotic lines weren't entirely intentional. automaton-media.com If you found yourself thinking "Were musou games always so homoerotic?" or "Why does Lu Bu want to make me his?" while playing the franchise's latest AAA entry Dynasty Warriors Origins – you're probably not alone. In fact, even the game's producer himself, Omega Force's Sho Tomohiko, admits to being caught off guard by how fruity some of the lines in there ended up. He recently addressed the topic in an unusual three-way discussion with Denfaminicogamer and 4chan founder Hiroyuki Nishimura. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Denfaminicogamer interview said: Sho: That BL vibe was… not something I intended at all. Honestly, I'd say, "Sorry, I wasn't keeping a close enough eye on things." Hiroyuki: So you're saying that if you're not watching carefully, things just naturally veer off into BL? (laughs) Sho: I'm not saying the team did anything wrong, of course, but honestly speaking – yeah, that's kind of what happened. I came up with the core outline and worldbuilding for the game, and we were aligned on major points. However, I left the actual scenario to the writing team. (via Denfaminicogamer) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sho mentions having a "Wait, what? moment when playing Dynasty Warriors Origins voiced for the first time (after recording was completed), as the BL fanservice was "beyond his expectations." However, he clarifies that Omega Force's team didn't make these choices on a whim, but after considering what longtime musou fans would like – and they were on the mark it seems, as Sho mentions that there were plenty of fans who loved it. On the other hand, given that things went a bit overboard for his taste, Sho says that Origins' potential sequel will tone down the gay undertones. "If we do a sequel, I think I'll personally check all the text. Although the team will probably hate that (laughs)." Click to expand... Click to shrink...   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,520 I'm gonna be honest, it made the game better. I hope they don't swing hard in the other direction for the next game out of embarrassment.   Lord Vatek Avenger Jan 18, 2018 24,670 Cowards. If you tap into the BL fanbase, you own that shit.   LordGorchnik Member Oct 30, 2017 3,656 DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF THE BL FANBASE? I am not one of them but those folks throw hard $$$$ at anything with it haha.  Fodder Aplenty Member Sep 10, 2018 305 I thought Moot was the 4chan founder? And why would he do an interview with a person like that anyway?   Pai Pai Master Member Oct 25, 2017 37,121 Atlanta GA wait this game is kinda gay? now i really need to play it   pronk Member Oct 26, 2017 2,019 Yeah it made the game way better, if anything they should go harder on it   Linus815 Member Oct 29, 2017 23,977 Fodder Aplenty said: I thought Moot was the 4chan founder? And why would he do an interview with a person like that anyway? Click to expand... Click to shrink... 4chan is just a side gig for hiro really   SirKai Member Dec 28, 2017 10,122 Washington Them making a conscious effort to avoid queer subtext and tone in future entries is coward shit. So fucking lame.   Primus Member Oct 25, 2017 4,558 "However, he clarifies that Omega Force's team didn't make these choices on a whim, but after considering what longtime musou fans would like – and they were on the mark it seems, as Sho mentions that there were plenty of fans who loved it." Click to expand... Click to shrink... There we go, see, you get it. People were super thrilled by the more overt BL in Origins, well done! "On the other hand, given that things went a bit overboard for his taste, Sho says that Origins' potential sequel will tone down the gay undertones. "If we do a sequel, I think I'll personally check all the text. Although the team will probably hate that (laughs)." Click to expand... Click to shrink... And now you've just thrown it all away! Well done! justintimberlakesideeye.gif  Starphanluke ▲ Legend ▲ Member Nov 15, 2017 8,478 The way this kind of makes me want to play the game. Annoying that they're backing down, though.   Renteka-Bond Chicken Chaser Member Dec 28, 2017 6,012 Clearwater, Florida Pai Pai Master said: wait this game is kinda gay? now i really need to play it Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's super gay. Like "if you replaced every character with a girl, it'd be a harem anime" gay. It's the best part lol Edit: Sad to see he's a huge coward though. "Everyone liked it, but fuck that, because reasons!"  cursed knowledge Member Mar 15, 2019 3,588 Brazil what is BL exactly?   nded Member Nov 14, 2017 11,793 So the producer wasn't expecting it but it sounds like the writing team knew exactly what they were doing.   Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 13,008 Spain Most of my interest in this game comes from the fact that I've been told there are gay undertones, so I think this worked out for them.   HStallion Member Oct 25, 2017 69,538 Don't pursue Lu Bu. He's going to pursue you   Fodder Aplenty Member Sep 10, 2018 305 Linus815 said: 4chan is just a side gig for hiro really Click to expand... Click to shrink... But he owns it, and has owned it for 10 years. He's responsible for it. I don't think we can just hand wave his connection here.  Callibretto Member Oct 25, 2017 10,344 Indonesia cursed knowledge said: what is BL exactly? Click to expand... Click to shrink... boy love or yaoi   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,520 Pai Pai Master said: wait this game is kinda gay? now i really need to play it Click to expand... Click to shrink... Your entire social link with Lu Bu is basically him actively being like "YOU ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO BEAT ME BUT YOU ARE ALMOST STRONG ENOUGH AND THAT MEANS WE ARE MARRIED".  SirKai Member Dec 28, 2017 10,122 Washington cursed knowledge said: what is BL exactly? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Boy Love, a romantic sub-genre of manga.  AuthenticM Son Altesse Sérénissime The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 35,087 On the other hand, given that things went a bit overboard for his taste, Sho says that Origins' potential sequel will tone down the gay undertones Click to expand... Click to shrink... boooooo   Valcrist Tic-Tac-Toe Champion Member Oct 25, 2017 10,824 PlanetSmasher said: I'm gonna be honest, it made the game better. I hope they don't swing hard in the other direction for the next game out of embarrassment. Click to expand... Click to shrink... On the other hand, given that things went a bit overboard for his taste, Sho says that Origins' potential sequel will tone down the gay undertones. "If we do a sequel, I think I'll personally check all the text. Although the team will probably hate that (laughs)." Click to expand... Click to shrink... If that's the case they should just not make a sequel tbh.  Cantaim Member Oct 25, 2017 35,047 The Stussining cursed knowledge said: what is BL exactly? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's usually male on male relationships written for women.   CrazyHal Member Nov 1, 2017 1,811 Pai Pai Master said: wait this game is kinda gay? now i really need to play it Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's not "kinda" gay. It's SUPER gay.  zoodoo Member Oct 26, 2017 14,520 Montreal Cantaim said: It's usually male on male relationships written for women. Click to expand... Click to shrink... That's a thing?   PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 132,520 zoodoo said: That's a thing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Are you surprised? It's a massive, massive slice of the fanfic sphere.  Richietto One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 25,967 North Carolina No don't fuckin tone it down you fuckin coward what???   kubev Member Oct 25, 2017 8,130 California Lord Vatek said: Cowards. If you tap into the BL fanbase, you own that shit. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I have to say, seeing people bitch about playing as a woman in GTA6 had me thinking how funny it'd be if Rockstar gave people a choice to replace Lucia with a guy named Luke or something and with no other changes to the game but also no further explanation prior to launch, with the characters being in a relationship either way.   DyCy Member Oct 25, 2017 558 cursed knowledge said: what is BL exactly? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Bu Lu  Renteka-Bond Chicken Chaser Member Dec 28, 2017 6,012 Clearwater, Florida cursed knowledge said: what is BL exactly? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Boy kissing baby~ zoodoo said: That's a thing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... 95% of Gacha games is written with super blatant girlkisser bait and "Yuri undertones" for men. This is like that, except unintentional on their part. In the anime community, any popular anime that likely has majority men and useless women characters probably has a big BL community of artists under its belt, both because it's an underserved market but also because, most often, the relationships between men are written infinitely better than whatever female character the protag has as a love interest.  L Thammy Spacenoid Member Oct 25, 2017 54,753 It's probably accurate to the period, honestly.   L Thammy Spacenoid Member Oct 25, 2017 54,753 Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu used to all sleep in the same bed.   delete12345 One Winged Slayer Member Nov 17, 2017 21,892 Boston, MA DyCy said: For context: 呂布 is pronounced as Lü Bu, one of the strongest and mightiest warriors in the Romance of the Three Kingdom.   Silvergun-Blue Member Oct 26, 2017 10,887 Flame Flamey Member Feb 8, 2018 5,316 Just saying that Rise of the Ronin has actual implied gay sex scenes, since anyone can do every romance option.   thetrin Member Oct 26, 2017 10,578 Grand Junction, CO zoodoo said: That's a thing? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I mean, everything under the sun "is a thing". It's a massively successful subgenre.  texhnolyze Shinra Employee Member Oct 25, 2017 26,308 Indonesia What, so it was a mistake and will be fixed in the sequel? lol   Atom Member Jul 25, 2021 15,257 Don't course correct just give the player a character creator next time ffs. Dial up the self insert stuff and you'll probs get even more positive buzz.   Magister Xehanort Member Sep 5, 2021 4,094 Pai Pai Master said: wait this game is kinda gay? now i really need to play it Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yes, all the characters seem obsessed with the protagonist in Dynasty Warriors Origins.   Lord Vatek Avenger Jan 18, 2018 24,670 Magister Xehanort said: Yes, all the characters seem obsessed with the protagonist in Dynasty Warriors Origins. Click to expand... Click to shrink... "Accident" my ass.   GravaGravity Member Oct 27, 2017 4,687 Brother you stumbled into the bisexual motherload you can't bury the mine now   JJD Member Oct 25, 2017 5,226 Hahaha as someone who is not used to musou games I loved it! It was just fun  Dinoegg_96 Avenger Nov 26, 2017 2,802 Honestly, that tends to happen a lot in anime.   MidasTouch Member Dec 29, 2023 1,328 Pretty weak for them to consider toning it down or removing it in future entries. Part of DW's charm is just how absurdly campy and gay it is. They especially can't walk away from this very easily when they make most every male character a prettyboy in some fashion.  Tagyhag Member Oct 27, 2017 15,103 Magister Xehanort said: Yes, all the characters seem obsessed with the protagonist in Dynasty Warriors Origins. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Lmfao, they knew exactly what they were doing, I love it. Also, if anyone knows the national DW Community, this is not surprising and I'm sure they're loving it.  Mental Atrophy Member Oct 30, 2017 1,196 I'm so oblivious that I didn't even notice while playing the game. Guan Yu certainly is dreamy, though. He can be my god of war any time.