ROG Ally: Triple AAA Gaming Windows handheld
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The Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC is real, not an April Fools’ joke
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The ROG Ally has a seven-inch 16:9 display with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 500 nits of brightness, and a 120HZ refresh rate, compared to the Steam Deck specs, which are listed as a seven-inch 16:10 display at 1280 x 800 resolution, 400 nits of brightness, and a 60Hz refresh rate.
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I want more of these, but they need to think about adding alternative control interfaces built into the system. Maybenot a whole touch pad but maybe a nipple and some back buttons. Plus it is is ROG, you know it will cost 2 souls and a leg
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Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.
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>1080p
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Sullivan said:
Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.
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Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.
However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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Dangerman1337 said:
Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.
However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...
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I'd rather have 720p and that d-pad looks like ass but otherwise, this thing seems like it could be pretty good.
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Dangerman1337 said:
Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.
However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced
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I didn't know that ROG was an initialism. I've always pronounced it like an acronym.
So I can install my GOG games on this?
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Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...
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Asus apparently told Dave it.
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In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced
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Heh :p.
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1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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Koukalaka said:
1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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Sounds like the stats for a endurance battery tester
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Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.
I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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Ya, nothing matters until we know about battery and price.
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However, in our experience, they've relied on an AMD 6800U chipset instead of a custom design and generally lack the right combination of horsepower and efficiency that we want to see from handheld gaming machines.
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I swear the Verge reporter doesn't understand how crippled is the Steam Deck CPU for having 4 cores only when CPU matters a ton more in low resolutions.
AMD doesn't do custom unless you are going to buy millions, but then again, it's the iVerge.
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Koukalaka said:
1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯
And you are right, it's hard to get more than 60fps in recent titles even on 6800U with 45W TDP
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Dinjoralo said:
Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.
I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller.
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Dinjoralo said:
Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.
I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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You also squeeze out a bit more performance by turning down bigger games
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I prefer asymmetrical sticks on my controllers, but on handhelds where the sides are vertical straight up and down, they should not be offset due to where your thumbs land. The switch cramps my hand having to contort my thumb and rotate my hand to hit the sticks. It is better with and ergonomic attachment but it is not the most convenient.
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Looks interesting and I might bite depending on battery life and price. I'm a bit lukewarm on the steamdeck and still waiting to see what comes next.
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Does this have a gyroscope like the Deck?
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Haloid1177 said:
Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller.
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I had to disable iCUE as it kept waking up my PC from power saving. I never really used it anyway so no big loss.
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ROG XG Mobile eGPU? That's interesting, seeing as Oculink on the Win Max 2 allows you to have only a 10% performance penalty vs a full desktop for external using PCIe Gen4 x4.
This will make it interesting. Unfortunately Destiny 2 sucks ass on anything less than 10" >.<
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120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage
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Happy to eat crow on this, but I'd be very surprised if the starter model of this is < Most of these handheld Windows devices are k+.
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If the 120Hz display is VRR , that's a gamechanger. Framerates lower than 60 will benefit immensely. The Deck needs this too.
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Actually, hadn't considered that. Very valid point.
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I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though.
Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.
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It's like all these companies that are big enough to somewhat compete saw the Deck success and then made hand held. Logitech launches a cloud one, Razer launches a ARM one a year after the Deck and now Asus seems to think they have to one up the Deck everywhereand will result in pricing themselves out of the market.
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Performance and cost will be interesting. Lack of touchpads is a bummer as that has been a great feature for the deck for me.
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Qwark said:
I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though.
Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.
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These feel like a bunch of specs thrown at a wall - a screen like that will chew up battery in no time, and the hardware won't be there to back it up.
This is what I really appreciated about the Steam Deck - it seemed thought out and that all the hardware was designed for a certain performance level.
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It's good to see more products in this space, but I'm just never going to buy a PC handheld that doesn't have touchpads. It's frustrating that only Valve is making a handheld that can actually play the games I want to play.
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Will come down to price of course. There's countless Windows handhelds around these days - many objectively better than the Deck, but none that can match it's price point.
On that note, yes the 1080p screen is appealing for a handheld. I have a Deck, but I expressly use my Ayn Odin Lite for things like Game Pass, GFN, or even watching anime, because it can push double the pixels with ease. Then again, it's Android so it has battery for days.
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Oh windows based, that mean native gamepass gaming? Hmm that might be interesting.
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I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.
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I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.
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You could install SteamOS on it if you wanted I imagine.
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Koukalaka said:
1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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I always want 120hz on any device that is capable of streaming gameplay. Moonlight at 120hz is *chef's kiss*
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I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯
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General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.
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bad ergonomics - shallow grip, menu buttons out of reach. Single USB port!
rocker dpad - why copy the 360s terrible dpad
dual fans plus higher refresh/resolution/brightness screen - huge battery drain
Windows instead of SteamOS - no suspend + license fee
DOA
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General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.
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It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.
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This sounds like one of those other handhelds that are on paper way more powerfull than the deck but then is twice the price and the user experience sucks
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Looks interesting, and I'm always happy to see new entrants into this space, as it gives people more options. Specifically, if they are selling this in B&M retail stores, it'll open the market to people who aren't comfortable ordering a Steam Deck, or getting a Chinese/HK manufactured device of unknown quality.The resolution and refresh rates sound "ambitious", but if it's anything like the GPD I have, you'll be able to knock the refresh rate down to 40hz, and do the usual FSR resolution scaling to save on performance. I'd be surprised if a demanding game lasted more than 2 hours on a single charge though - that just seems to be the norm with the current tech, but its enough for a commute, or a long train journey if you are happy playing 2D stuff.
As for it using windows, ehhh, It's the easiest way forward right now. Yes it takes a while to boot or come out of standby compared to SteamOS, and the UI kinda sucks on a small screen, but it has zero compatibility issues and allows every current launcher straight out of the box, so you get every advantage of a full PC with only a couple minor downsides.
My only negative with what I've seen so far, is the size. It's only a shave smaller than the Steam Deck, which is already a chunky bugger. I'd have liked it to be more like the GPD Win 4. Oh well.
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It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.
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Adaptive refresh rate solves that issue and you can cap it if you don't like the energy cost. At least on mobiles, and assumedly for this device as well since you can do the same on Deck.
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ROG Ally: Triple AAA Gaming Windows handheld
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The Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC is real, not an April Fools’ joke
No fooling — but no specs or price, either.
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The ROG Ally has a seven-inch 16:9 display with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 500 nits of brightness, and a 120HZ refresh rate, compared to the Steam Deck specs, which are listed as a seven-inch 16:10 display at 1280 x 800 resolution, 400 nits of brightness, and a 60Hz refresh rate.
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I want more of these, but they need to think about adding alternative control interfaces built into the system. Maybenot a whole touch pad but maybe a nipple and some back buttons. Plus it is is ROG, you know it will cost 2 souls and a leg
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Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.
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Seems like it'll be pricey as hell but I do like that it has a 16:9 display, Windows with good looking dashboard for all your launchers, and how quiet it is. I just want that eGPU connector, or something similar to it, on the next Steam Deck.
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Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.
However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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Dangerman1337 said:
Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.
However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...
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I'd rather have 720p and that d-pad looks like ass but otherwise, this thing seems like it could be pretty good.
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Dangerman1337 said:
Dave2D says it's apparently very appealing price point.
However my biggest question is the release date because we keep seeing these handhelds with no release dates and being kept shown at performance expos all the time. Sick and tired of that nonsense.
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In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced
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I didn't know that ROG was an initialism. I've always pronounced it like an acronym.
So I can install my GOG games on this?
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Dave doesn't know the price point. He's just assuming because they said it would be available at Best Buy and that they don't do low volume products so ASUS expects it to sell well, which means it likely has an appealing price point. I don't know though...
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Asus apparently told Dave it.
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In the time you you typed this post 3 more models of the Aya neo has been announced
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Heh :p.
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1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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Koukalaka said:
1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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Sounds like the stats for a endurance battery tester
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Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.
I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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Ya, nothing matters until we know about battery and price.
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However, in our experience, they've relied on an AMD 6800U chipset instead of a custom design and generally lack the right combination of horsepower and efficiency that we want to see from handheld gaming machines.
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I swear the Verge reporter doesn't understand how crippled is the Steam Deck CPU for having 4 cores only when CPU matters a ton more in low resolutions.
AMD doesn't do custom unless you are going to buy millions, but then again, it's the iVerge.
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Koukalaka said:
1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯
And you are right, it's hard to get more than 60fps in recent titles even on 6800U with 45W TDP
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Dinjoralo said:
Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.
I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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Armoury Crate is a mess of a software but I will give it credit that it causes me way less issues than iCUE or the Lian Li fan/RGB controller.
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Windows, ick. I've used Armoury Crate enough on my PC to know that the software side of things, at least what's pre-installed on the device, is going to be ass.
I don't get why everyone seems to hate the Deck having an 800p screen. That's turned out to be a lifesaver for me in some games with weird resolutions that can't scale to 720p or 1080p well, like Rainworld.
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You also squeeze out a bit more performance by turning down bigger games
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ROG is supposed to be spelled R.O.G.
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I prefer asymmetrical sticks on my controllers, but on handhelds where the sides are vertical straight up and down, they should not be offset due to where your thumbs land. The switch cramps my hand having to contort my thumb and rotate my hand to hit the sticks. It is better with and ergonomic attachment but it is not the most convenient.
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Looks interesting and I might bite depending on battery life and price. I'm a bit lukewarm on the steamdeck and still waiting to see what comes next.
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Does this have a gyroscope like the Deck?
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Haloid1177 said:
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I had to disable iCUE as it kept waking up my PC from power saving. I never really used it anyway so no big loss.
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ROG XG Mobile eGPU? That's interesting, seeing as Oculink on the Win Max 2 allows you to have only a 10% performance penalty vs a full desktop for external using PCIe Gen4 x4.
This will make it interesting. Unfortunately Destiny 2 sucks ass on anything less than 10" >.<
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120hz is actually great for games like Hollow Knight or Fight N Rage
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Happy to eat crow on this, but I'd be very surprised if the starter model of this is < Most of these handheld Windows devices are k+.
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If the 120Hz display is VRR , that's a gamechanger. Framerates lower than 60 will benefit immensely. The Deck needs this too.
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Atolm said:
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Actually, hadn't considered that. Very valid point.
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I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though.
Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.
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It's like all these companies that are big enough to somewhat compete saw the Deck success and then made hand held. Logitech launches a cloud one, Razer launches a ARM one a year after the Deck and now Asus seems to think they have to one up the Deck everywhereand will result in pricing themselves out of the market.
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Performance and cost will be interesting. Lack of touchpads is a bummer as that has been a great feature for the deck for me.
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Qwark said:
I'm always down for more high-performance handhelds, that d-pad looks squishy as hell though.
Lmao at the actor casually pulling the handheld out of his jacket pocket, those are some big pockets.
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These feel like a bunch of specs thrown at a wall - a screen like that will chew up battery in no time, and the hardware won't be there to back it up.
This is what I really appreciated about the Steam Deck - it seemed thought out and that all the hardware was designed for a certain performance level.
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It's good to see more products in this space, but I'm just never going to buy a PC handheld that doesn't have touchpads. It's frustrating that only Valve is making a handheld that can actually play the games I want to play.
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Will come down to price of course. There's countless Windows handhelds around these days - many objectively better than the Deck, but none that can match it's price point.
On that note, yes the 1080p screen is appealing for a handheld. I have a Deck, but I expressly use my Ayn Odin Lite for things like Game Pass, GFN, or even watching anime, because it can push double the pixels with ease. Then again, it's Android so it has battery for days.
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Oh windows based, that mean native gamepass gaming? Hmm that might be interesting.
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I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.
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Pocky4Th3Win said:
I hope they support Steam OS as an alternative to Windows 11.
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You could install SteamOS on it if you wanted I imagine.
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Koukalaka said:
1080p and 120Hz just don't make sense on a gaming-focused handheld.
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I always want 120hz on any device that is capable of streaming gameplay. Moonlight at 120hz is *chef's kiss*
neoak said:
I'd argue not in phones either but ¯\__/¯
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General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.
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bad ergonomics - shallow grip, menu buttons out of reach. Single USB port!
rocker dpad - why copy the 360s terrible dpad
dual fans plus higher refresh/resolution/brightness screen - huge battery drain
Windows instead of SteamOS - no suspend + license fee
DOA
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DjDeathCool said:
General usageon a 120hz display feels much much nicer. It's one of those things you get used to and don't realize how nice it is until it's gone. It's not about gameplay. Lol.
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It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.
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This sounds like one of those other handhelds that are on paper way more powerfull than the deck but then is twice the price and the user experience sucks
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Looks interesting, and I'm always happy to see new entrants into this space, as it gives people more options. Specifically, if they are selling this in B&M retail stores, it'll open the market to people who aren't comfortable ordering a Steam Deck, or getting a Chinese/HK manufactured device of unknown quality.The resolution and refresh rates sound "ambitious", but if it's anything like the GPD I have, you'll be able to knock the refresh rate down to 40hz, and do the usual FSR resolution scaling to save on performance. I'd be surprised if a demanding game lasted more than 2 hours on a single charge though - that just seems to be the norm with the current tech, but its enough for a commute, or a long train journey if you are happy playing 2D stuff.
As for it using windows, ehhh, It's the easiest way forward right now. Yes it takes a while to boot or come out of standby compared to SteamOS, and the UI kinda sucks on a small screen, but it has zero compatibility issues and allows every current launcher straight out of the box, so you get every advantage of a full PC with only a couple minor downsides.
My only negative with what I've seen so far, is the size. It's only a shave smaller than the Steam Deck, which is already a chunky bugger. I'd have liked it to be more like the GPD Win 4. Oh well.
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neoak said:
It's about battery life man. Never said it wasn't nice.
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Adaptive refresh rate solves that issue and you can cap it if you don't like the energy cost. At least on mobiles, and assumedly for this device as well since you can do the same on Deck.
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