[GamingTech] Nintendo Switch 2 - A Very Poor LCD Display / No Real HDR Support / 450 Nits Max / Raised Blacks / Tested On Display And In Docking Mode
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From one of the biggest and most dedicated HDR analysis channels out there.
Thought that's a big enough topic on its own, because of the analysis, for a separate thread.
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450 nits maximum peak brightnessGames like Zelda Breath of the Wild have raised blacks even in Docked HDR gameplay with a raised black level floor and the game looking washed out
HDR docked can be good if games are optimized for it like Cyberpunk, which he refers to being exactly like on PS5 and PC, HDR wise or Fast Fusion as one of the rare games that actually have a good black level floor in HDR
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blueredandgold
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Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?
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Sadly what I expected since the moment we learned it was edge-lit LCD. Would've at least expected nigher peak nits though.
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A shame, because Switch 2 is like the first time I'll see HDR, as my old TV isn't compatible :/
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I've got to assume this is the sort of thing that most of us hi-fi tech illiterate lot won't notice until they bring out a better screen model in a few years.
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Well that sucks but it's Nintendo...did anyone expect anything different?
I'm only going to use it docked so hopefully they can fix the HDR via update.
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Not surprised, but not a big issue for me personally.
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Ahhh the obligatory Nintendo Crap Displayit's positively tradition at this point
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I Don’t Care WhereEven with an edge lit LCD, I was expecting brighter highlights. A lot of the preview event coverage made it sound like the screen was insanely bright, and that's clearly not the case.
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As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)
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Paper Cheese said:
I've got to assume this is the sort of thing that most of us hi-fi tech illiterate lot won't notice until they bring out a better screen model in a few years.
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the raised blacks on dark content is pretty clear if you play in any kind of darker environment, if you have any kind of OLED screen to compare. Case in point, if you own a Switch 1 OLED, you'll notice the stark differences for certain kinds of content right away. OTOH, if you have been using a launch Switch 1 and never had any issues with how it looks, you'll be fine. Just make sure to stay away from OLED screen, lest you gain the ability to see the differences.
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HDR on edge-lit LCD is kind of a scam anyway.
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A shame, because Switch 2 is like the first time I'll see HDR, as my old TV isn't compatible :/
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If you have a phone made in last couple of years you've probably seen HDR.
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Well, kinda expected, so I'm not too bothered by it. Not like you can change it.
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Nintendo saving that sweet sweet OLED for a refresh.
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I have mine in my hands right now.... don't know about HDR stuff too much but Mario Kart looks gorgeous on it.
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Decarb said:
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^ this.
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Most of this stuff was clear from the Preview Events, at least DF talked about it.
Didn't seem to bother a majority of people playing though. Was pretty much set when it wasn't going to be OLED.
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Well, that's disappointing..
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NoSpin said:
As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)
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It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers.
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it's about as good as i was expecting. HDR on an LCD basically means "we're actually going to tune content for the screen's color gamut", and it does the job on that level. mario kart does look punchier and more vibrant than it would in SDR while obviously not offering the same contrast as an OLED.
dunno who this guy is but if he's really "very disappointed" i'm not sure he knows very much about screens. i'm sure it's just ragebait
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No way!! :D You could tell just from the thumbnail.
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"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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Seems to be on par what you would get with an LCD.
The OG Switch 1 has a bad LCD Screen, the OG Steam Deck has an even worse.....this video is making it seem like Switch 2 Screen is as bad as these screens or even worse. When it seems to be quite solid for an LCD, but in certain areas it can compete with an OLED.
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And yet most of the games media doing previews have been like "oh I can barely tell the difference compared to the OLED".
Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?
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SDR low brightness in a dark room then
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Ooof. Although, I will admit, I probably can't tell between good and bad sceens. I mean, I have the Ayaneo Pocket DMG and everyone says it's an amazing screen. It looks normal to me?
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Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?
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An OLED 120hz? The Odin 2 Portal has one, but I don't have a sense of the component cost.
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The screen is a pretty big downgrade from oled but a huge upgrade from the OG.
I really miss the perfect blacks. MKW is gorgeous but would have looked so much better on an oled screen
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The HDR and lifted black should not come as a surprise. But the video doesn't really analyze why it would be below average for an LCD screen? Colours? Pixel response time? For example the original Switch 1 LCD look reaaally bad to me these days, but my Steam Deck LCD screenlooks good to me outside of raised blacks in dark scenes.
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Yep. I fucking knew it.
Knew it was going to be trash. LCD is trash as a standardWill wait for oled version.
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Aleh said:
"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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Focus of the whole channel is HDR. Dude is likely just used to comparing HDR content on very expensive OLED Screens.
So HDR bad = everything trash for him.
Something that won't be the case for 99% of users out there. Its the single voter issue again, disregarding everything else because of one focus point and expecting every one to feel the same way about it.
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Alex840 said:
Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?
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An OLED 1080p HDR VRR 120 Hz screen does not sound like it would be cost-effective.
It makes sense to establish baseline specs like 120 Hz support for developers to target and upgrade to OLED in the future instead of trying to add 120 Hz support later on.
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Aleh said:
"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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If you're an enthusiast display platform, you're going to be benchmarking against the absolute best. So comparatively it could not be as good. Obviously it doesn't take into account what the entire platform delivers as a whole and the price it was trying to hit. It's a rather zoomed in look at just one thing.
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Still sounds like an upgrade from the launch Switch LCD, though those nits are pretty low
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blueredandgold said:
Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?
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The screen is bad, and the native HDR implementation in the games he tested is shoddy.
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Milk said:
It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers.
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I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.
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It's a shame they couldn't release an OLED SKU at launch. I would have happily paid an extra for an OLED model and I'm sure many are the same.
I know I'll be keeping my box in pristine condition to get maximum value when I trade the console in for a Switch 2 OLED in hopefully a few years.
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This means that for handheld purposes, Switch 2 is actually a downgrade on Switch 1 OLED, for any games that aren't taking advantage of the additional power/resolution.
So basically, you might want to hold on to your Switch 1 OLED for all your pixel art indies, and any games not getting a patch/upgrade.
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Kinda what I expected. Being LCD with HDR especially on portable device at that is never a good combo. I'll just play on my OLED TV when I want to get the full experience, which again, is what I expected.
I hope it's a bit usable outside at least. I was hoping closer to 600 nits for that alone, as the Deck OLED is JUST usable on a sunny day. But you can't have everything I guess.
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The screen is also my biggest concern of the unit. The og switch has an absolutely atrocious screen and LCDs just dont cut it anymore for me. The low nits will make it again pretty difficult to properly play outside.
I am commuting a lot and sitting on a train with a bit of sun outside was already too much for the og switch.
Here is hoping that an OLED variant will come earlier this time.
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NoSpin said:
I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.
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You're implying being critical means you're not also enjoying the video games.
I'm critical of tons of my favorite games. I'm still having a fun time with the games
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Disappointing to hear, but as someone who thinks his OG switch's screen is fine, I'm sure it won't really bother me.
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blueredandgold said:
Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?
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I'm trying to add some bullet points to the OT.
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is it like PS Portal LCD screen? Because I think the Portal LCD screen is really good
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pswii60 said:
This means that for handheld purposes, Switch 2 is actually a downgrade on Switch 1 OLED, for any games that aren't taking advantage of the additional power/resolution.
So basically, you might want to hold on to your Switch 1 OLED for all your pixel art indies, and any games not getting a patch/upgrade.
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Oh I don't think there's any doubt from pure IQ perspective its a downgrade from Switch 1 OLED. Even without HDR support at max brightness that screen pops like nothing else.
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NoSpin said:
I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.
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This is a silly comparison since he's not reviewing a screen from 1996 when it first came out, screen technology has exploded since the first iPhone, seems like a needless jab.
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My understanding is that 400nits is the minimum for HDR. So it's technically HDR, but usually dismissed by purists as not "real HDR" such as this vid with his HDR10 testing. So it's a definite improvement over SDR content, but Nintendo then used an LCD instead of OLED so it most likely looks worse than the OLED switch.
Feels like Nintendo is using minimum HDR as a crutch to cheap out on the screen and people are saying it's not "TRUE HDR" even though it's completely within spec.
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Aleh said:
"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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When I first booted the Switch 2, I wanted to believe the screen will be ok from the news. Nope, the screen pretty much is pretty bad compared to OLED.
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A bit of a shame, meh
NoSpin said:
As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)
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Yes indeed, this dude is set on a mission to personally ruin your experience, and he's now crying in a corner knowing that he failed.
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But you can't have everything I guess.
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I think that's the thing, they went for resolution and VRR as a priority.
I'm sure I also read on here a while ago that it also centres around the availability of appropriate screens. OLED only became viable after a certain point.
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I thought I had appropriately-low expectations, but I was thinking it would be a 600 nit 1800:1 panel.
Not 450 nits and 900:1.
The only thing "HDR" about it is probably that content will be authored to make use of a wider color gamut.
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[GamingTech] Nintendo Switch 2 - A Very Poor LCD Display / No Real HDR Support / 450 Nits Max / Raised Blacks / Tested On Display And In Docking Mode
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From one of the biggest and most dedicated HDR analysis channels out there.
Thought that's a big enough topic on its own, because of the analysis, for a separate thread.
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450 nits maximum peak brightnessGames like Zelda Breath of the Wild have raised blacks even in Docked HDR gameplay with a raised black level floor and the game looking washed out
HDR docked can be good if games are optimized for it like Cyberpunk, which he refers to being exactly like on PS5 and PC, HDR wise or Fast Fusion as one of the rare games that actually have a good black level floor in HDR
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Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?
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Sadly what I expected since the moment we learned it was edge-lit LCD. Would've at least expected nigher peak nits though.
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A shame, because Switch 2 is like the first time I'll see HDR, as my old TV isn't compatible :/
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I've got to assume this is the sort of thing that most of us hi-fi tech illiterate lot won't notice until they bring out a better screen model in a few years.
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Well that sucks but it's Nintendo...did anyone expect anything different?
I'm only going to use it docked so hopefully they can fix the HDR via update.
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Not surprised, but not a big issue for me personally.
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Ahhh the obligatory Nintendo Crap Displayit's positively tradition at this point
Friendly Bear
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I Don’t Care WhereEven with an edge lit LCD, I was expecting brighter highlights. A lot of the preview event coverage made it sound like the screen was insanely bright, and that's clearly not the case.
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As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)
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Paper Cheese said:
I've got to assume this is the sort of thing that most of us hi-fi tech illiterate lot won't notice until they bring out a better screen model in a few years.
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the raised blacks on dark content is pretty clear if you play in any kind of darker environment, if you have any kind of OLED screen to compare. Case in point, if you own a Switch 1 OLED, you'll notice the stark differences for certain kinds of content right away. OTOH, if you have been using a launch Switch 1 and never had any issues with how it looks, you'll be fine. Just make sure to stay away from OLED screen, lest you gain the ability to see the differences.
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HDR on edge-lit LCD is kind of a scam anyway.
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A shame, because Switch 2 is like the first time I'll see HDR, as my old TV isn't compatible :/
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If you have a phone made in last couple of years you've probably seen HDR.
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Well, kinda expected, so I'm not too bothered by it. Not like you can change it.
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Nintendo saving that sweet sweet OLED for a refresh.
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I have mine in my hands right now.... don't know about HDR stuff too much but Mario Kart looks gorgeous on it.
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Decarb said:
HDR on edge-lit LCD is kind of a scam anyway.
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^ this.
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Most of this stuff was clear from the Preview Events, at least DF talked about it.
Didn't seem to bother a majority of people playing though. Was pretty much set when it wasn't going to be OLED.
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Well, that's disappointing..
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NoSpin said:
As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)
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It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers.
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it's about as good as i was expecting. HDR on an LCD basically means "we're actually going to tune content for the screen's color gamut", and it does the job on that level. mario kart does look punchier and more vibrant than it would in SDR while obviously not offering the same contrast as an OLED.
dunno who this guy is but if he's really "very disappointed" i'm not sure he knows very much about screens. i'm sure it's just ragebait
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'm sure it's just ragebait
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No way!! :D You could tell just from the thumbnail.
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"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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Milk said:
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Seems to be on par what you would get with an LCD.
The OG Switch 1 has a bad LCD Screen, the OG Steam Deck has an even worse.....this video is making it seem like Switch 2 Screen is as bad as these screens or even worse. When it seems to be quite solid for an LCD, but in certain areas it can compete with an OLED.
Alex840
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And yet most of the games media doing previews have been like "oh I can barely tell the difference compared to the OLED".
Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?
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SDR low brightness in a dark room then
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Ooof. Although, I will admit, I probably can't tell between good and bad sceens. I mean, I have the Ayaneo Pocket DMG and everyone says it's an amazing screen. It looks normal to me?
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Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?
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An OLED 120hz? The Odin 2 Portal has one, but I don't have a sense of the component cost.
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The screen is a pretty big downgrade from oled but a huge upgrade from the OG.
I really miss the perfect blacks. MKW is gorgeous but would have looked so much better on an oled screen
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The HDR and lifted black should not come as a surprise. But the video doesn't really analyze why it would be below average for an LCD screen? Colours? Pixel response time? For example the original Switch 1 LCD look reaaally bad to me these days, but my Steam Deck LCD screenlooks good to me outside of raised blacks in dark scenes.
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Yep. I fucking knew it.
Knew it was going to be trash. LCD is trash as a standardWill wait for oled version.
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Aleh said:
"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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Focus of the whole channel is HDR. Dude is likely just used to comparing HDR content on very expensive OLED Screens.
So HDR bad = everything trash for him.
Something that won't be the case for 99% of users out there. Its the single voter issue again, disregarding everything else because of one focus point and expecting every one to feel the same way about it.
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Alex840 said:
Am really sad they took a step back with this, how much more could an OLED screen have cost them?
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An OLED 1080p HDR VRR 120 Hz screen does not sound like it would be cost-effective.
It makes sense to establish baseline specs like 120 Hz support for developers to target and upgrade to OLED in the future instead of trying to add 120 Hz support later on.
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Aleh said:
"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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If you're an enthusiast display platform, you're going to be benchmarking against the absolute best. So comparatively it could not be as good. Obviously it doesn't take into account what the entire platform delivers as a whole and the price it was trying to hit. It's a rather zoomed in look at just one thing.
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Still sounds like an upgrade from the launch Switch LCD, though those nits are pretty low
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blueredandgold said:
Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?
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The screen is bad, and the native HDR implementation in the games he tested is shoddy.
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Milk said:
It's not a personal attack on you. Pointing out objective shortcomings about the technology is a good thing for consumers.
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I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.
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It's a shame they couldn't release an OLED SKU at launch. I would have happily paid an extra for an OLED model and I'm sure many are the same.
I know I'll be keeping my box in pristine condition to get maximum value when I trade the console in for a Switch 2 OLED in hopefully a few years.
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This means that for handheld purposes, Switch 2 is actually a downgrade on Switch 1 OLED, for any games that aren't taking advantage of the additional power/resolution.
So basically, you might want to hold on to your Switch 1 OLED for all your pixel art indies, and any games not getting a patch/upgrade.
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Kinda what I expected. Being LCD with HDR especially on portable device at that is never a good combo. I'll just play on my OLED TV when I want to get the full experience, which again, is what I expected.
I hope it's a bit usable outside at least. I was hoping closer to 600 nits for that alone, as the Deck OLED is JUST usable on a sunny day. But you can't have everything I guess.
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The screen is also my biggest concern of the unit. The og switch has an absolutely atrocious screen and LCDs just dont cut it anymore for me. The low nits will make it again pretty difficult to properly play outside.
I am commuting a lot and sitting on a train with a bit of sun outside was already too much for the og switch.
Here is hoping that an OLED variant will come earlier this time.
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NoSpin said:
I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.
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You're implying being critical means you're not also enjoying the video games.
I'm critical of tons of my favorite games. I'm still having a fun time with the games 🤷
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Disappointing to hear, but as someone who thinks his OG switch's screen is fine, I'm sure it won't really bother me.
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blueredandgold said:
Could you please translate for those of us who haven't been able to watch or digest after we saw this posted in the other thread please?
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I'm trying to add some bullet points to the OT.
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is it like PS Portal LCD screen? Because I think the Portal LCD screen is really good
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pswii60 said:
This means that for handheld purposes, Switch 2 is actually a downgrade on Switch 1 OLED, for any games that aren't taking advantage of the additional power/resolution.
So basically, you might want to hold on to your Switch 1 OLED for all your pixel art indies, and any games not getting a patch/upgrade.
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Oh I don't think there's any doubt from pure IQ perspective its a downgrade from Switch 1 OLED. Even without HDR support at max brightness that screen pops like nothing else.
Maximo
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NoSpin said:
I didn't see it as a personal attack, I just imagined him reviewing the Game Boy Pocket or the OG DS screes and how disappointed he would have been, whilst we were all busy enjoying video games.
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This is a silly comparison since he's not reviewing a screen from 1996 when it first came out, screen technology has exploded since the first iPhone, seems like a needless jab.
Melhadf
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My understanding is that 400nits is the minimum for HDR. So it's technically HDR, but usually dismissed by purists as not "real HDR" such as this vid with his HDR10 testing. So it's a definite improvement over SDR content, but Nintendo then used an LCD instead of OLED so it most likely looks worse than the OLED switch.
Feels like Nintendo is using minimum HDR as a crutch to cheap out on the screen and people are saying it's not "TRUE HDR" even though it's completely within spec.
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Aleh said:
"crap display" is a huge exaggeration. Everyone who has actually seen it in person says it looks really good, HDR isn't everything, however disappointing that is.
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When I first booted the Switch 2, I wanted to believe the screen will be ok from the news. Nope, the screen pretty much is pretty bad compared to OLED.
Alvis
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A bit of a shame, meh
NoSpin said:
As so often with gaming, I am relieved to have this person to tell me the thing I am enjoying looking at is bad actually. :)
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Yes indeed, this dude is set on a mission to personally ruin your experience, and he's now crying in a corner knowing that he failed.
fourfourfun
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Shadow said:
But you can't have everything I guess.
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I think that's the thing, they went for resolution and VRR as a priority.
I'm sure I also read on here a while ago that it also centres around the availability of appropriate screens. OLED only became viable after a certain point.
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I thought I had appropriately-low expectations, but I was thinking it would be a 600 nit 1800:1 panel.
Not 450 nits and 900:1.
The only thing "HDR" about it is probably that content will be authored to make use of a wider color gamut.
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