nicoreese Member Jan 18, 2018 1,466 Sony just announced its financial forecast for the next year, and it's expecting to be impacted by tariffs to the tune of 100 billion yen (about $680 million). To compensate, the company says it's considering options including moving manufacturing to the US and increasing prices for consumers. The PS5 did get a call out from CEO Hiroki Totoki when discussing the possibility of moving manufacturing to the US to avoid the brunt of Donald Trump's tariffs. He admitted that the console "can be produced locally," and that it would be "an efficient strategy" that "has to be considered going forward." Click to expand... Click to shrink... Sony considers PS5 price hikes to cover Trump’s tariffs That US PS5 price increase may still be on the way. www.theverge.com   Ramathevoice Member Oct 26, 2017 3,480 Paris, France I mean, didn't they already raise the price in other regions specifically to avoid having to raise it in the US, to protect their primary market?   Wrexis Member Nov 4, 2017 29,237 I'm open to a few million bucks if anyone wants to help out. This is political theater. The cost to build a new manufacturing plant and hire/train people to manufacture in another country is immense and takes years. Trump will be long gone by the time this would be ready - not that it will go ahead.  SnatcherHunter The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 14,964 Unfortunately, this is what Orange Turd wants.   Athrum Member Oct 18, 2019 1,794 "moving manufacturing to the US and increasing prices for consumers." exactly what Trump wants. Hope people like to pay $1199 for a console.  Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,329 1.5k PlayStation 6 made in the US   Jammerz Member Apr 29, 2023 1,515 Ramathevoice said: I mean, didn't they already raise the price in other regions specifically to avoid having to raise it in the US, to protect their primary market? Click to expand... Click to shrink... I can't imagine the digital ps5 price increase is enough to cover that.   Lkr Member Oct 28, 2017 12,020 even if they moved manufacturing here, won't they get hit by tariffs since they have to import every part?   NotLiquid One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 37,813 Ramathevoice said: I mean, didn't they already raise the price in other regions specifically to avoid having to raise it in the US, to protect their primary market? Click to expand... Click to shrink... There's only so much you can subsidize before that becomes unsustainable, and in the case they're in, that's not actually much.   CuriousTom92 Member Jul 1, 2022 770 I very much doubt they will move it to US no matter what they say   RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,230 Manufacturing PS5 in America would certainly jack the price up   Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,692 I swear if they are going to rise the price everywhere again. Making them in the US would certainly do that.  Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 33,943 Ramathevoice said: I mean, didn't they already raise the price in other regions specifically to avoid having to raise it in the US, to protect their primary market? Click to expand... Click to shrink... They stockpiled units in the US to try and hold off. Stockpiles don't last forever.  OP OP nicoreese Member Jan 18, 2018 1,466 Wrexis said: I'm open to a few million bucks if anyone wants to help out. This is political theater. The cost to build a new manufacturing plant and hire/train people to manufacture in another country is immense and takes years. Trump will be long gone by the time this would be ready - not that it will go ahead. Click to expand... Click to shrink... The problem is that no one knows what the political landscape will be after Trump. It might continue the way it is now. Also, the PS6 launch will likely fall into Trump's administration still.  Blue_Toad507 Member May 25, 2021 3,767 That Astro Bot PS5 bundle ain't gonna be the best console deal for long, that's for sure lol.   Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,329 CuriousTom92 said: I very much doubt they will move it to US no matter what they say Click to expand... Click to shrink... Of course they won't. It's not economic to be made in the US but we have to pretend it's a option so the US doesn't retaliate   Sho_Nuff82 Member Nov 14, 2017 20,098 Ramathevoice said: I mean, didn't they already raise the price in other regions specifically to avoid having to raise it in the US, to protect their primary market? Click to expand... Click to shrink... The projected losses are probably with those price increases factored in. Also, where in the US could they easily manufacture millions of consoles?  Aegus Member Oct 29, 2017 1,236 Anyone else remember the days when there were price drops every year for older consoles? Like PS1 at £99 kind of levels. What happened?  345 Member Oct 30, 2017 10,135 Lkr said: even if they moved manufacturing here, won't they get hit by tariffs since they have to import every part? Click to expand... Click to shrink... yes  Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 33,943 If the two options are a price rise or moving manufacturing to the US, then it's a price rise. If you're in the market for a Pro, buy it now and lock in the price. I already did a week or so ago.  Calabi Member Oct 26, 2017 3,869 Wrexis said: I'm open to a few million bucks if anyone wants to help out. This is political theater. The cost to build a new manufacturing plant and hire/train people to manufacture in another country is immense and takes years. Trump will be long gone by the time this would be ready - not that it will go ahead. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah won't all the parts still be tarrifed. Like motherboards are all manufactured from 100s of sourced parts there's no way this could be done.   RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,230 Sho_Nuff82 said: The projected losses are probably with those price increases factored in. Also, where in the US could they easily manufacture millions of consoles? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nowhere. They're just saying shit   cmdrshepard The Fallen Oct 30, 2017 1,604 Considering they have already very recently raised their console and their Plus prices WW outside of the US, i really hope they are only conidering raising the price in the US.   Clefargle One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,484 Limburg How fast could they realistically do this if they wanted to spin up production and charge more?   Patitoloco Member Oct 27, 2017 28,065 They're not going to move to the US.   gundamkyoukai Member Oct 25, 2017 24,548 Xando said: Of course they won't. It's not economic to be made in the US but we have to pretend it's a option so the US doesn't retaliate Click to expand... Click to shrink... Correct got to make it sound like you going to try . We see it with other companies in other ways lol.  Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 33,943 Patitoloco said: They're not going to move to the US. Click to expand... Click to shrink... They're going to move higher prices to the US!  pappacone Member Jan 10, 2020 3,971 they won''t rule it out, but it dount it will ever happen   Tobor Died as he lived: wrong about Doritos Member Oct 25, 2017 33,943 Clefargle said: How fast could they realistically do this if they wanted to spin up production and charge more? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Not in the PS5's lifetime.  AstralSphere Member Feb 10, 2021 13,039 If they end up moving manufacturing to the US (which would not be a small endeavor and could take a long time to happen), I just hope they don't end up having manufacturing only in the US. Those of us in the rest of the world already pay more to subsidise the US market, adding our reciprocal tariffs on top of that would be unfair.  RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,230 Clefargle said: How fast could they realistically do this if they wanted to spin up production and charge more? Click to expand... Click to shrink... It would still take many years. Enough for the gen to be over   boris_feinbrand Member Oct 26, 2017 7,181 Clefargle said: How fast could they realistically do this if they wanted to spin up production and charge more? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Manufacturing in the US at any scale that would supply the north american market? Around 10 years (optimistically if everything goes right)  Scarecrow The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 4,488 Got a used PS5 last month in anticipation for this. $280 is much more swallowable than a new one at $1000   Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,329 Clefargle said: How fast could they realistically do this if they wanted to spin up production and charge more? Click to expand... Click to shrink... They would have to build up a complete supply chain in the US, train workers and debug equipment so probably not before 2030 at the earliest. Probably more like a decade. It's not like they can just build a factory and put 500 american kids work the assembly line  The Boat Member Oct 28, 2017 5,237 This is just lip service, they won't move to the US.   Universal Acclaim Member Oct 5, 2024 2,234 Hope he considers it further and realises it's not so efficient   Charcoal Member Nov 2, 2017 9,644 andherewego.gif   LinguisticGoblin Member Jul 19, 2020 1,276 In theory, how fast could Sony move production of hardware to Ohio? 2-3 months?   Clefargle One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 15,484 Limburg Tobor said: Not in the PS5's lifetime. Click to expand... Click to shrink... RailWays said: It would still take many years. Enough for the gen to be over Click to expand... Click to shrink... boris_feinbrand said: Manufacturing in the US at any scale that would supply the north american market? Around 10 years (optimistically if everything goes right) Click to expand... Click to shrink... Xando said: They would have to build up a complete supply chain in the US, train workers and debug equipment so probably not before 2030 at the earliest. Probably more like a decade. It's not like they can just build a factory and put 500 american kids work the assembly line Click to expand... Click to shrink... Thanks!   Crossing Eden Member Oct 26, 2017 58,381 Clefargle said: How fast could they realistically do this if they wanted to spin up production and charge more? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Longer than Trump will remain president.   Mars People Comics Council 2020 Member Oct 25, 2017 18,844 Wait they haven't increased prices in the US?   construct Saw the truth behind the copied door Member Jun 5, 2020 11,080 𖦹 this isn't a real thing. it's essentially impossible   Lkr Member Oct 28, 2017 12,020 LinguisticGoblin said: In theory, how fast could Sony move production of hardware to Ohio? 2-3 months? Click to expand... Click to shrink... the children of ohio yearn for the factories   Mr.Deadshot Member Oct 27, 2017 23,071 Cool, maybe they can ask their non-american customer base to pay for the factories in America.   The elusive man Member May 19, 2024 780 Mars People said: Wait they haven't increased prices in the US? Click to expand... Click to shrink... You can get the astro bot bundle now for 449.   Xando Member Oct 28, 2017 37,329 AstralSphere said: If they end up moving manufacturing to the US (which would not be a small endeavor and could take a long time to happen), I just hope they don't end up having manufacturing only in the US. Those of us in the rest of the world already pay more to subsidise the US market, adding our reciprocal tariffs on top of that would be unfair. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Selling US made consoles worldwide would be the deathknell for PlayStation as long as you have competitors producing hardware outside the US. Who's going to buy a 1.5k US made PlayStation when you can get a 500€ vietnam made Switch?  mhjswe Member Dec 9, 2024 159 I love paying higher prices to subsidise USA. 1. Say you will move manufacturing to USA 2. Trump is happy. Says he made a good deal, the best deal in fact. Best deal ever. Tarrif is removed. 3. Do nothing 4. Trump goes to the next shiny object he can disrupt to get his name in the news  snowblack Member Oct 30, 2024 563 Curious to see how long Sony can go without raising prices. They know they are in the best position right now for consumers wrt to literally everybody.   Andromeda Member Oct 27, 2017 5,241 Ramathevoice said: I mean, didn't they already raise the price in other regions specifically to avoid having to raise it in the US, to protect their primary market? Click to expand... Click to shrink... This. So he is saying price will continue to increase everywhere except in US.   RailWays One Winged Slayer Avenger Oct 25, 2017 18,230 Mars People said: Wait they haven't increased prices in the US? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nope, they've been holding out with their current stockpiled inventory. They raised the prices recently for everyone else  

Sony to increase first party games output as PS5 sales continue to fall Adam Starkey Published May 14, 2025 10:54am Updated May 14, 2025 10:55am Is Ghost Of Yōtei the only big Sony game for Christmas? (Sony Interactive Entertainment) As Sony projects a decline in PlayStation 5 console sales over the next year, the company is hoping software will pick up the slack. Sony’s first-party line-up for the PlayStation 5 has been an increasing disappointment over the past five years, with standouts like Returnal and Astro Bot, but too few new releases and too many remasters and failed live service experiments. The lack of first-party games is reflected in the company’s financial report for the 2024 fiscal year (ending March 31, 2025). As outlined by Sony, first-party software sales dropped to 28.9 million in FY24, a 10.8 million decline from 2023’s 39.7 million. While overall game sales were up over last year, at 303.3 million, Sony is expecting an increase in both first and third-party software sales over the 2025 financial year – which seems to indicate it has some surprises up its sleeve. Sony is set to release Ghost of Yōtei and Death Stranding 2: On The Beach in 2025, and according to Sony’s definition of the term, the latter does count as first party even though it’s not made by one of their internal studios. There are also projects like Bungie’s Marathon and the Sony-published Lost Soul Aside, which are both slated for this year and also come under the definition of first party. While Sony will likely increase its first-party sales with these games alone, there’s a chance another unannounced project might be lined up for 2025. Earlier this year, rumours claimed a new God Of War game set in Greece is planned for 2025, but nothing has been officially announced yet. It’s also perfectly possible that other, current unguessed at, titles could be waiting in the wings. Despite these positive forecasts for software sales, Sony is less optimistic when it comes to hardware. The company is expecting PlayStation 5 sales to drop in the 2025 financial year, which isn’t exactly surprising as we’re over five years into the console’s life cycle (and the next 12 months no longer has GTA 6 as a potential boost). More Trending Over the 2024 fiscal year, PlayStation 5 hardware sales totalled 18.5 million, selling 2.8 million in the last quarter. This is a small drop from the previous year’s 20.8 million. This means total PlayStation 5 sales have hit 77.8 million, which is just 1.4 million units behind the PlayStation 4 at the same period in its life. However, whether that means it’ll end up with a similar lifetime total, of around 117 million (making it the fifth most successful console of all time), is hard to guess. We’ll likely have a better idea of Sony’s upcoming software slate over the next month, if not through a State Of Play presentation, then at Summer Game Fest on June 6, 2025. Death Stranding 2 launches next month (Sony Interactive Entertainment) Email gamecentral@metro.co.uk, leave a comment below, follow us on Twitter, and sign-up to our newsletter. To submit Inbox letters and Reader’s Features more easily, without the need to send an email, just use our Submit Stuff page here. For more stories like this, check our Gaming page. GameCentral Sign up for exclusive analysis, latest releases, and bonus community content. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Your information will be used in line with our Privacy Policy

COTS is back on the menu If Congress actually cancels the SLS rocket, what happens next? Here's what NASA's exploration plans would actually look like if the White House got its way. Eric Berger – May 13, 2025 3:49 pm | 9 A technician works on the Orion spacecraft, atop the SLS rocket, in January 2022. Credit: NASA A technician works on the Orion spacecraft, atop the SLS rocket, in January 2022. Credit: NASA Story text Size Small Standard Large Width * Standard Wide Links Standard Orange * Subscribers only   Learn more The White House Office of Management and Budget dropped its "skinny" budget proposal for the federal government earlier this month, and the headline news for the US space program was the cancellation of three major programs: the Space Launch System rocket, Orion spacecraft, and Lunar Gateway. Opinions across the space community vary widely about the utility of these programs—one friend in the industry predicted a future without them to be so dire that Artemis III would be the last US human spaceflight of our lifetimes. But there can be no question that if such changes are made they would mark the most radical remaking of NASA in two decades. This report, based on interviews with multiple sources inside and out of the Trump administration, seeks to explain what the White House is trying to do with Moon and Mars exploration, what this means for NASA and US spaceflight, and whether it could succeed. Will it actually happen? The first question is whether these changes proposed by the White House will be accepted by the US Congress. Republican and Democratic lawmakers have backed Orion for two decades, the SLS rocket for 15 years, and the Gateway for 10 years. Will they finally give up programs that have been such a reliable source of good-paying jobs for so long? In general, the answer appears to be yes. We saw the outlines of a deal during the confirmation hearing for private astronaut Jared Isaacman to become the next NASA administrator in April. He was asked repeatedly whether he intended to use the SLS rocket and Orion for Artemis II (a lunar fly around) and Artemis III (lunar landing). Isaacman said he did. However nothing was said about using this (very costly) space hardware for Artemis IV and beyond. Congress did not ask, presumably because it knows the answer. And that answer, as we saw in the president's skinny budget, is that the rocket and spacecraft will be killed after Artemis III. This is a pragmatic time to do it, as canceling the programs after Artemis III saves NASA billions of dollars in upgrading the rocket for a singular purpose: assembling a Lunar Gateway of questionable use. But this will not be a normal budget process. The full budget request from the White House is unlikely to come out before June, and it will probably be bogged down in Congress. One of the few levers that Democrats in Congress presently have is the requirement of 60 Senators to pass appropriations bills. So compromise is necessary, and a final budget may very well not pass by the October 1 start of the next fiscal year. Then, should Congress not acquiesce to the budget request, there is the added threat of the White House Office of Management and Budget to use "impoundment" to withhold funding and implement its budget priorities. This process would very quickly get bogged down in the courts, and no one really knows how the Supreme Court would rule. Leadership alignment To date, the budget process for NASA has not been led by space policy officials. Rather, the White House Office of Management and Budget, and its leader, Russell Vought, have set priorities and funding. This has led to "budget driven" policy that has resulted in steep cuts to science that often don't make much sense (i.e. ending funding for the completed Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope). However there soon will be some important voices to implement a more sound space policy and speak for NASA's priorities, rather than those of budget cutters. One of these is President Trump's nominee to lead NASA, Jared Isaacman. He is awaiting floor time in the US Senate for a final vote. That could happen during the next week or two, allowing Isaacman to become the space agency's administrator and begin to play an important role in decision-making. But Isaacman will need allies in the White House itself to carry out sweeping space policy changes. To that end, the report in Politico last week—which Ars has confirmed—that there will be a National Space Council established in the coming months is important. Led by Vice President JD Vance, the space council will provide a counterweight to Vought's budget-driven process. Thus, by this summer, there should be key leadership in place to set space policy that advances the country's exploration goals. But what are those goals? What happens to Artemis After the Artemis III mission the natural question is, what would come next if the SLS rocket and Orion spacecraft are canceled? The most likely answer is that NASA turns to an old but successful playbook: COTS. This stands for Commercial Orbital Transportation System and was created by NASA two decades ago to develop cargo transport systems (eventually this became SpaceX's Dragon and Northrop's Cygnus spacecraft) for the International Space Station. Since then NASA has adopted this same model for crew services as well as other commercial programs. Under the COTS model, NASA provides funding and guidance to private companies to develop their own spacecraft, rockets, and services, and then buys those at a "market" rate. The idea of a Lunar COTS program is not new. NASA employees explored the concept in a research paper a decade ago, finding that "a future (Lunar) COTS program has the great potential of enabling development of cost-effective, commercial capabilities and establishing a thriving cislunar economy which will lead the way to an economical and sustainable approach for future human missions to Mars." Sources indicate NASA would go to industry and seek an "end-to-end" solution for lunar missions. That is, an integrated plan to launch astronauts from Earth, land them on the Moon, and return them to Earth. One of the bidders would certainly be SpaceX, with its Starship vehicle already having been validated during the Artemis III mission. Crews could launch from Earth either in Dragon or Starship. Blue Origin is the other obvious bidder. The company might partner with Lockheed Martin to commercialize the Orion spacecraft or use the crew vehicle it is developing internally. Other companies could also participate. The point is that NASA would seek to buy astronaut transportation to the Moon, just as it already is doing with cargo and science experiments through the Commercial Lunar Payload Services program. The extent of an Artemis lunar surface presence would be determined by several factors, including the cost and safety of this transportation program and whether there are meaningful things for astronauts to do on the Moon. What about Mars? The skinny budget contained some intriguing language about Mars exploration: "By allocating over $7 billion for lunar exploration and introducing $1 billion in new investments for Mars-focused programs, the Budget ensures that America’s human space exploration efforts remain unparalleled, innovative, and efficient." This was, in fact, the only budget increase proposed by the Trump White House. So what does it mean? No one is saying for sure, but this funding would probably offer a starting point for a robust Mars COTS program. This would begin with cargo missions to Mars. But eventually it would expand to include crewed missions, thus fulfilling Trump's promise to land humans on the red planet. Is this a gift to Elon Musk? Critics will certainly cast it as such, and that is understandable. But the plan would be open to any interested companies, and there are several. Rocket Lab, for example, has already expressed its interest in sending cargo missions to Mars. Impulse Space, too, has said it is building a spacecraft to ferry cargo to Mars and land there. The Trump budget proposal also kills a key element of NASA's Mars exploration plans, the robotic Mars Sample Return mission to bring rocks and soil from the red planet to Earth in the 2030s. However, this program was already frozen by the Biden administration because of delays and cost overruns. Sources said the goal of this budget cut, rather than having a single $8 billion Mars Sample Return mission, is to create an ecosystem in which such missions are frequent. The benefit of opening a pathway to Mars with commercial companies is that it would allow for not just a single Mars Sample Return mission, but multiple efforts at a lower cost. "The fact is we want to land large things, including crew cabins, on the Moon and Mars and bring them back to Earth," one Republican space policy consultant said. "Instead of building a series of expensive bespoke robotic landers to do science, let's develop cost-effective reusable landers that can, with minimal changes, support both cargo and crew missions to the Moon and Mars." Eric Berger Senior Space Editor Eric Berger Senior Space Editor Eric Berger is the senior space editor at Ars Technica, covering everything from astronomy to private space to NASA policy, and author of two books: Liftoff, about the rise of SpaceX; and Reentry, on the development of the Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon. A certified meteorologist, Eric lives in Houston. 9 Comments

Sony’s $699.99 PS5 Pro could get especially expensive if prices go up. Sony just announced its financial forecast for the next year, and it’s expecting to be impacted by tariffs to the tune of 100 billion yen (about $680 million). To compensate, the company says it’s considering options including moving manufacturing to the US and increasing prices for consumers. Speaking to investors during the company’s earnings call, Sony CFO Lin Tao confirmed that the company is considering “passing on” the price of tariffs to consumers in order to mitigate the impact on its bottom line. Tao didn’t mention the PS5 by name though, and it’s possible that Sony could try to protect pricing on its console through increases elsewhere in its electronics business. Sony has already increased the price of the PS5 this year, but only in the UK, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. The PS5 did get a call out from CEO Hiroki Totoki when discussing the possibility of moving manufacturing to the US to avoid the brunt of Donald Trump’s tariffs. He admitted that the console “can be produced locally,” and that it would be “an efficient strategy” that “has to be considered going forward.” As expected Sony is considering passing along the tarrif impact by increasing the price of their products. So it's assumed the PS5 price could be impacted. pic.twitter.com/a7nR1BZ9Rv— Destin (@DestinLegarie) May 14, 2025 Over the 12 months ending in March, Sony shipped 18.5 million PS5 consoles — down slightly from 20.8 million the year before — bringing its lifetime shipments to 77.7 million. Sony still manufactures the majority of its PS5 hardware in China, and so its gaming business is especially at risk right now. Even after the 90-day pause and reduction in rates announced this week, the 30 percent tariff on imports into the US from China is substantially higher than the 10 percent rate levied on other countries, and games consoles were not included in the exemptions for select other electronics. Microsoft has already raised the price of its Xbox consoles by up to $100, though Nintendo has so far elected to keep Switch 2 pricing the same ahead of its launch next month. We may learn more about Sony’s pricing plans going forward when it announces the flagship WH-1000XM6 headphones tomorrow, which succeed the $399 XM5s.

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