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WWW.GADGETS360.COMAtomfall's Game Pass Launch a 'Huge Success', Rebellion CEO SaysAtomfall, the action-survival game from Rebellion Developments, launched on PC, PlayStation and Xbox platforms last month. It also released on Game Pass on day one and has since reached over two million players. Rebellion CEO Jason Kingsley has said that launching Atomfall on Microsoft's game subscription service has been a “huge success” for the independent studio.Atomfall's Game Pass Launch a 'Huge Success'In an interview with GamesIndustry.biz published Wednesday, Kingsley reflected on Atomfall's launch strategy and said that Xbox Game Pass helped the new IP reach a wider audience.“It's been a huge success," Kingsley told the publication. "Microsoft has been a fantastic partner to work with, they've really leaned in to helping us. They brought their skills and their scale to bear on our small project, and it's done really, really well for them, so they got a good deal, we got a good deal out of it as well.”Launching on Game Pass helped the discoverability of Atomfall, Kingsley said, adding that it was one of the biggest challenges for the studio. According to him, players were likely to try out a new IP on the service, with word-of-mouth praise attracting a wider audience.“With Game Pass, you can get people to try it, then as a result of those people trying it, they like it, and they then tell their mates on social media, 'I found this game on Game Pass, I really enjoyed it, you should have a go.' And then some of them are on Game Pass, and will [play] it. But some of them aren't on Game Pass, and will also want to be part of that conversation. So, they'll go and buy it,” he said.Rebellion confirmed last week that Atomfall had reached over two million players. The number isn't indicative of unit sales as it includes Game Pass subscribers who accessed the game free of cost. Kingsley, however, said that the game's sales had surpassed the studio's expectations. “We've done a lot better than our mid-range estimates, actually, so that's nice,” he said.Launching on Game Pass also guarantees a fixed monetary return that helped Rebellion reach profitability with Atomfall. Kingsley said that while a release on the subscription service could undercut sales on Xbox, but the gain from that cost was “disproportionate”.The Rebellion CEO also suggested the studio, known for its Sniper Elite games, might work on an Atomfall sequel. “Now it looks like we want to do more Atomfall – it's been successful, can we find the resources to do it? I don't know,” he said.Atomfall launched across PC, PS4, PS5, Xbox One and Xbox Series S/X on March 27. The survival title, that has drawn comparisons with Fallout, is set in a post-apocalyptic north England and is inspired by the real life Windscale nuclear incident in the 1950s. Days after the launch, Rebellion confirmed the game had reached over 1.5 million players in its opening weekend, making it the most successful launch in the company's 32-year history. KEY SPECSNEWSGenre SurvivalPlatform PlayStation 4 (PS4), PlayStation 5 (PS5), Xbox One, Xbox Series S/X, PC: WindowsModes Single-playerMore Rebellion Developments Games For the latest tech news and reviews, follow Gadgets 360 on X, Facebook, WhatsApp, Threads and Google News. For the latest videos on gadgets and tech, subscribe to our YouTube channel. If you want to know everything about top influencers, follow our in-house Who'sThat360 on Instagram and YouTube. Further reading: Atomfall, Rebellion Developments, Xbox, Game Pass, Xbox Game Pass, Microsoft Manas Mitul In his time as a journalist, Manas Mitul has written on a wide spectrum of beats including politics, culture and sports. He enjoys reading, walking around in museums and rewatching films. Talk to Manas about football and tennis, but maybe don’t bring up his video game backlog. More0 Commentarii 0 Distribuiri 69 Views
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MEDIUM.COMA Comparative Analysis of Leading Large Language Models (LLMs) in Early 2025A Comparative Analysis of Leading Large Language Models (LLMs) in Early 202524 min read·Just now--Navigating the rapidly evolving landscape of AI titans like GPT, Gemini, Claude, Llama, DeepSeek and beyond.1. Executive SummaryThe field of Large Language Models (LLMs) witnessed unprecedented acceleration leading into 2025, marked by rapid advancements in model capabilities, significant investment, and increasing real-world adoption. This report provides a comparative analysis of the top 10 LLMs prominent in early 2025, evaluated based on performance metrics derived from reputable leaderboards, maximum context length, API access costs, disclosed parameter counts, developer organizations, and licensing models. The landscape is characterized by intense competition and rapid iteration, making objective comparison essential yet challenging.Key findings indicate the continued dominance of models from major technology firms like OpenAI (GPT-4o, o-series models), Google (Gemini series), and Anthropic (Claude series), alongside formidable contributions from Meta (Llama series) driving the open-source frontier. Strong competition is also evident from specialized AI companies like DeepSeek and xAI, as well as global tech giants such as Alibaba (Qwen series).Significant trends observed include a divergence in strategic approaches: proprietary models often push the absolute performance boundaries but come with higher costs and less transparency, while open-source alternatives are rapidly closing performance gaps, offering greater flexibility and lower access costs, albeit sometimes with more complex licensing terms. The push towards massive context windows, exceeding one million tokens in several cases (primarily from Google), is reshaping possibilities for complex data processing and long-form interaction. Furthermore, a distinct focus on enhancing “reasoning” capabilities is apparent across top models, moving beyond simple text generation towards complex, multi-step problem-solving. Evaluating these sophisticated models necessitates increasingly complex and specialized benchmarks, covering areas like advanced reasoning, coding proficiency, safety, and multimodality.2. Introduction: Navigating the 2025 LLM LandscapeThe period leading into 2025 has been defined by a remarkable surge in the development and deployment of Large Language Models. LLMs have transitioned from research curiosities to transformative technologies impacting diverse sectors, from enterprise software and customer service to content creation and scientific discovery. This rapid evolution has resulted in a proliferation of models, each with distinct strengths, weaknesses, and commercial terms, making informed selection a significant challenge for developers, researchers, and businesses.In this dynamic environment, standardized benchmarks and public leaderboards have become indispensable tools for evaluating and comparing LLM capabilities. Early benchmarks focused on general language understanding and generation, but as models advanced, the evaluation landscape has necessarily evolved. Current benchmarks increasingly probe more sophisticated abilities, including complex reasoning across multiple domains (like GPQA), mathematical problem-solving (MATH, AIME), coding proficiency (HumanEval, SWE-Bench), instruction following (IFEval), conversational quality (Chatbot Arena), safety and alignment (HELM Safety, MASK), and multimodal understanding (VISTA, MMMU). This specialization reflects the growing demand for AI systems capable of tackling nuanced, real-world tasks.This report aims to provide clarity within this complex ecosystem. Its objective is to identify and conduct a detailed comparative analysis of ten leading LLMs based on their performance across recognized benchmarks and leaderboards prevalent in late 2024 and early 2025. The comparison focuses on key technical and commercial metrics: maximum context length, API input and output costs, publicly available parameter counts, the primary developing organization, and the model’s license type. By synthesizing data from diverse, reputable sources, this report seeks to offer a valuable resource for understanding the capabilities and trade-offs associated with the state-of-the-art LLMs available during this period.3. Identifying the Top 10 LLMs (Circa Early 2025)3.1. Methodology for SelectionDetermining a definitive “Top 10” list of LLMs is inherently complex due to the field’s rapid pace of change and the variety of evaluation methodologies employed. Rankings on leaderboards can shift weekly, if not daily, as new models are released or existing ones are updated. Furthermore, different leaderboards prioritize different aspects of performance. For instance, the LMSYS Chatbot Arena relies heavily on crowdsourced human preferences in head-to-head comparisons, reflecting real-world usability and conversational quality. Others, like the Hugging Face Open LLM Leaderboard, focus specifically on open-source models evaluated against a suite of academic benchmarks. Platforms like Vellum AI, Artificial Analysis, Scale AI, and Stanford’s HELM aggregate results from various benchmarks, often focusing on specific capabilities like coding (SWE-Bench), reasoning (GPQA, MMLU-Pro), or safety.The very existence of multiple, often differing, leaderboards highlights the challenge and necessity of multifaceted evaluation. No single benchmark or ranking methodology captures the full spectrum of an LLM’s capabilities or its suitability for every task. Therefore, the selection process for this report involved aggregating data from several of these prominent and publicly cited sources, looking for models that consistently demonstrated state-of-the-art or highly competitive performance across a range of demanding benchmarks (such as MMLU, GPQA, HumanEval, SWE-Bench) during the late 2024 to early 2025 timeframe. This approach aims to identify models that represent the frontier of LLM development during this period, acknowledging that specific rankings might vary depending on the chosen benchmark or leaderboard.3.2. The Top 10 Models (Representative List, Circa Early 2025)Based on the aggregation of performance data from the aforementioned sources, the following ten models (or model families/series) consistently appeared among the top performers during the target period. Specific versions are noted where they represent significant iterations or performance tiers commonly cited in leaderboards.OpenAI GPT-4o / o-series (e.g., o3, o4-mini): OpenAI’s models, particularly GPT-4o and the reasoning-focused ‘o’ series (like o3), frequently topped or ranked near the top of various leaderboards, demonstrating strong general capabilities and excelling in challenging benchmarks like Humanity’s Last Exam and coding tasks.Google Gemini series (e.g., 2.5 Pro, 2.5 Flash, 2.0 Flash): Google’s Gemini family, especially the 2.5 Pro variant, emerged as a top contender, often leading in human preference rankings (Chatbot Arena) and showcasing state-of-the-art performance in benchmarks requiring complex reasoning and large context handling. The Flash versions offered highly competitive performance at lower costs.Anthropic Claude series (e.g., 3.7 Sonnet, 3.5 Sonnet/Opus): Anthropic’s Claude models, particularly the 3.x Sonnet versions (including the reasoning-enhanced 3.7), consistently ranked highly, noted for strong reasoning, coding abilities (especially agentic coding), and performance on safety-related benchmarks.Meta Llama series (e.g., Llama 3.1 405B, Llama 3.3 70B): Meta’s Llama family, particularly the large 405B parameter model and the newer 3.3 iteration, represented the cutting edge of open-weight models, achieving performance competitive with top proprietary models on several benchmarks while being available under a community license. (Note: Llama 4 variants like Maverick/Scout also appeared in some sources but Llama 3.1 405B seemed more consistently benchmarked across leaderboards).DeepSeek series (e.g., R1, V3): DeepSeek AI rapidly emerged as a major player, with its R1 and V3 models (often featuring MoE architecture) achieving top-tier performance, particularly on reasoning and knowledge benchmarks (MMLU-Pro, GPQA), often surpassing other open models and rivaling proprietary ones, reportedly at a lower training cost.xAI Grok series (e.g., Grok 3, Grok 2): Developed by xAI, Grok models (particularly Grok 3) demonstrated strong performance, especially in mathematics and coding benchmarks (AIME 2024, GPQA), leveraging real-time information access via integration with the X platform.Alibaba Qwen series (e.g., Qwen2.5 Max, Qwen2.5 72B): Alibaba’s Qwen models, especially the Qwen2.5 Max version, showed highly competitive performance, ranking well on leaderboards like Chatbot Arena and representing the forefront of development from Chinese tech firms. Several Qwen models were also released under open licenses.OpenAI GPT-4.5 Preview: This model appeared frequently in leaderboards during the period, often positioned between GPT-4o and the top ‘o’ series models, representing a high-performance tier from OpenAI, albeit with significantly higher API costs reported.Nvidia Nemotron series (e.g., Llama 3.3 Nemotron Super 49B): Nvidia, primarily known for hardware, entered the model space with competitive offerings like the Nemotron series, sometimes based on or collaborating with other architectures like Llama, indicating deeper integration between hardware and model development.Cohere Command series (e.g., Command A, Command R+): Cohere’s models, while perhaps not always at the absolute peak of general leaderboards, represent a significant player focused on enterprise applications, often featuring large context windows and strong performance in instruction following and potentially RAG-focused tasks.4. Comparative Analysis of Leading LLMsThis section delves into a detailed comparison of the selected top 10 LLMs across the key metrics identified: context window size, API pricing, model parameters and architecture, developer organization, and license type.4.1. Master Comparison TableThe following table provides a consolidated overview of the key characteristics for each of the top 10 representative LLMs identified for the early 2025 period. Data is synthesized from multiple sources including leaderboards, official documentation, and pricing pages. Costs are typically per million tokensTable Notes:Costs are indicative and subject to change; they may vary based on region, specific API provider (for open models), usage tiers, or features like cached input.Gemini 2.5 Pro pricing tiers based on prompt size (>200k tokens is higher). $3.44 blended cost also reported.Llama 3.1 Community License has specific use restrictions.Context length for Llama 3.1 405B reported as 128k or 131k by some providers.Llama 3.1 405B pricing varies significantly by provider and quantization (e.g., $0.8/$0.8, $1.79/$1.79, $3.5/$3.5).DeepSeek V3 code is MIT licensed, but the model weights have a custom license with use restrictions.DeepSeek V3 context length reported as 128k, 131k, or up to 164k by some providers.DeepSeek V3 pricing varies (e.g., $0.14/$0.28, $0.27/$1.10, $0.48 blended).Grok 3 context length reported as 128k or 131k.Grok 3 parameter count is not officially disclosed by xAI; 2.7 Trillion parameters claimed in some external reports/blogs, potentially speculative.This table serves as a foundational reference for the subsequent detailed analysis of each metric.4.2. Context Window CapabilitiesA defining trend in early 2025 is the dramatic expansion of context windows offered by leading LLMs. While a context length of 128,000 tokens (allowing for roughly 100,000 words) was considered large previously, several top models now boast capabilities far exceeding this. Google’s Gemini series stands out, with Gemini 2.5 Pro, 2.0 Flash, and even the lightweight 1.5 Flash offering a standard 1 million token context window, and the Gemini 1.5 Pro version capable of handling up to 2 million tokens. OpenAI also entered the million-token space with models like GPT-4.1. Other models like Anthropic’s Claude series (200k tokens), OpenAI’s o-series (200k tokens), and many open models like Llama 3.1 405B and DeepSeek V3 (typically 128k-164k) offer substantial, albeit smaller, context windows. Some reports even mention experimental models like Llama 4 Scout reaching 10 million tokens.The availability of million-token-plus context windows has profound implications. It enables models to process and reason over vastly larger amounts of information in a single prompt — entire books, extensive code repositories, lengthy transcripts, or complex datasets. This capability is particularly transformative for applications involving Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG), complex document summarization, code analysis and refactoring across large projects, and maintaining coherent, long-running conversations or agentic workflows where preserving past interactions is crucial.This push, particularly evident in Google’s offerings, appears to be a strategic move to establish a distinct advantage. While benchmarks measure quality on specific tasks, the ability to handle massive context unlocks entirely new application domains that were previously infeasible. However, effectively utilizing these vast context windows presents challenges. Latency can potentially increase, and the computational cost might be higher, even if not always directly reflected in per-token pricing. Furthermore, research continues into how effectively models utilize information spread across extremely long contexts (“needle in a haystack” tests). Therefore, while a large context window is a powerful feature, its practical benefit depends heavily on the specific application, the model’s ability to leverage the context effectively, and the associated cost and latency trade-offs.4.3. API Pricing DynamicsThe cost of accessing LLM capabilities via APIs varies dramatically across the top models, reflecting differences in performance, features, target markets, and competitive strategies. Official pricing data and aggregated comparisons reveal a wide spectrum.At the high end, models perceived as offering peak performance or specialized capabilities command premium prices. OpenAI’s GPT-4.5 Preview stands out with exceptionally high costs ($75/M input, $150/M output). OpenAI’s reasoning models like o1 ($15/$60) and o3 ($10/$40) are also significantly more expensive than their standard GPT-4o ($2.50/$10). Similarly, Anthropic’s most powerful Claude 3 Opus carried a high price ($15/$75), while the highly capable Claude 3.7 Sonnet is priced at $3/$15. xAI’s Grok 3 Beta API is also positioned at the higher end ($3/$15).In contrast, several highly capable models offer much lower pricing. Google’s Gemini 2.0 Flash is remarkably inexpensive ($0.10/$0.40), with Gemini 2.0 Flash-Lite even cheaper ($0.075/$0.30). OpenAI’s GPT-4o mini ($0.15/$0.60) provides a lower-cost alternative to the full GPT-4o. Open-weight models, when accessed via third-party providers, often present very competitive pricing. Llama 3.1 405B pricing varies but can be found around $0.80/$0.80 (fp8 quantization) or $3.50/$3.50, significantly cheaper than comparable proprietary models. DeepSeek V3 is also positioned as highly cost-effective, with reported prices like $0.14/$0.28 or a blended cost under $0.50. Alibaba’s Qwen models also offer very low price points, particularly Qwen-Turbo ($0.00005/$0.0002).Most providers employ asymmetric pricing, charging less for input tokens than output tokens. This reflects the generally higher computational cost associated with generating text compared to processing input. Ratios vary, but output costs being 3–5 times higher than input costs are common (e.g., GPT-4o, Claude Sonnet, Gemini 2.0 Flash). An interesting exception is Meta’s Llama 3.1 405B, often priced symmetrically by providers. Some aggregators calculate a “blended cost” assuming a typical input/output ratio (e.g., 3:1) to simplify comparison.The pricing landscape is further complicated by tiered structures and additional costs. Google, for instance, charges more for Gemini 2.5 Pro and Gemini 1.5 Flash/Pro when processing prompts larger than a certain threshold (e.g., 128k or 200k tokens). OpenAI offers discounted pricing for “cached input” tokens, rewarding repeated use of the same initial context. Specialized features often incur separate charges, such as OpenAI’s Code Interpreter sessions, File Search storage and calls, or Web Search calls. Fine-tuning models also involves both training costs and different (often higher) inference costs per token. Specific modes, like Anthropic’s extended thinking for Claude 3.7 Sonnet or Google’s thinking budget for Gemini 2.5, may impact token consumption and thus overall cost, even if the per-token rate remains the same (thinking tokens are billed).This increasing complexity signifies a move by vendors towards more granular value capture, aligning costs more closely with specific resource usage (compute, storage, specialized tools, context length). Consequently, users cannot rely solely on base token prices for cost estimation. Accurate budgeting requires modeling specific application usage patterns, considering input/output ratios, typical context sizes, the need for specialized features or modes, and potential use of caching or fine-tuning. This environment favors users and organizations capable of performing such detailed analysis to optimize their cost-performance ratio. The availability of powerful yet extremely cheap models, particularly Gemini Flash and open-weight models accessed through competitive hosting platforms, exerts significant downward pressure on the market, forcing proprietary vendors to continually justify their premium pricing through superior performance or unique features.Furthermore, the strategic use of free or experimental tiers (like Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental or free quotas for Alibaba models) serves multiple purposes for vendors. It lowers the barrier to entry, attracting developers and fostering ecosystem growth. It provides invaluable large-scale usage data for model refinement through techniques like Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback (RLHF). It also allows for broad testing and feedback collection before finalizing pricing and potentially imposing stricter rate limits or data usage policies on paid tiers. Users leveraging these free tiers should be aware of potential limitations and the possibility of future transitions to paid structures.4.4. Model Architecture & ParametersTransparency regarding model architecture and parameter counts differs significantly between proprietary and open-weight models. Major developers like OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, and xAI generally do not disclose the exact number of parameters in their flagship models. This lack of transparency makes direct comparison based on size impossible for these closed systems.In contrast, developers of open-weight models typically disclose parameter counts. Meta’s Llama 3.1 405B is explicitly named for its size, as are its smaller siblings (70B, 8B). DeepSeek V3 is reported to have around 671–685 billion parameters. Alibaba’s Qwen family includes models with specified sizes like 72B and 32B.Architecturally, while most models are based on the transformer architecture, a notable trend is the adoption of the Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) design. DeepSeek V3 is a prominent example of an MoE model. MoE architectures utilize multiple specialized “expert” sub-networks, routing input tokens only to the most relevant experts. This sparse activation pattern can potentially allow models to achieve the performance associated with very large parameter counts while requiring significantly less computational power during inference compared to a similarly sized dense model. Alibaba’s Qwen 2 also employs MoE.The existence of model families with varying sizes is standard practice. OpenAI offers GPT-4o and the smaller, faster, cheaper GPT-4o mini. Google provides Gemini Pro alongside the faster Flash and even faster Flash-Lite variants. xAI has Grok 3 and Grok 3 Mini. Meta’s Llama series spans from 8B to 405B parameters. This tiered approach allows users to select a model that best fits their specific trade-off between capability, latency, and cost.Furthermore, models are often released in specialized versions optimized for specific tasks. “Instruct” or “Chat” versions are fine-tuned for following instructions and engaging in dialogue. Some models are specifically tuned for coding tasks, like Qwen2.5 Coder.An important development is the diminishing correlation between raw parameter count and overall performance. While historically larger models tended to perform better, recent evidence suggests this is no longer a strict rule. Architectural innovations like MoE, combined with massive high-quality training datasets and advanced training/alignment techniques (like RLHF), allow models with fewer active parameters or simply better optimization to compete effectively with, or even outperform, larger dense models on various benchmarks. For example, DeepSeek V3 reportedly outperformed the larger Llama 3.1 405B on some benchmarks, and highly optimized smaller models like Microsoft’s Phi-3 achieved performance levels previously requiring models over 100 times larger. This shift emphasizes the growing importance of data quality, training methodology, and architectural efficiency over sheer scale. Users should therefore prioritize empirical performance on relevant benchmarks and task-specific evaluations rather than relying solely on parameter count (even when disclosed) as a proxy for capability.4.5. The Developer EcosystemThe LLM landscape in early 2025 is shaped by a dynamic ecosystem of developers. A few key organizations consistently produce the models topping the leaderboards: OpenAI, Google (Alphabet), Anthropic, and Meta.OpenAI: Often viewed as the incumbent leader, OpenAI continues to push the performance frontier with its GPT and ‘o’ series models, maintaining a strong brand association with cutting-edge AI. However, it faces increasing competition and scrutiny.Google: Leveraging its vast infrastructure, data resources (including search), and deep research history, Google has become a formidable competitor with its Gemini series, particularly excelling in large context handling and achieving top ranks in human preference evaluations.Anthropic: Founded by former OpenAI researchers, Anthropic differentiates itself with a strong emphasis on AI safety and ethics, developing powerful models like Claude that are favored by many for complex reasoning and enterprise applications.Meta: Meta has adopted a strategy centered around releasing powerful open-weight models (Llama series), significantly influencing the market by democratizing access to high-performance AI and putting pressure on proprietary model pricing.Beyond these established players, several other organizations have emerged as significant forces:DeepSeek AI: This company quickly gained prominence with its highly performant and reportedly cost-efficient DeepSeek V3 and R1 models, challenging both open and proprietary competitors, particularly in reasoning and knowledge benchmarks.xAI: Led by Elon Musk, xAI aims to create “truth-seeking” AI with its Grok models, leveraging unique real-time data access through integration with the X platform.Alibaba: Representing the forefront of Chinese AI development in the LLM space, Alibaba’s Qwen models are highly competitive, particularly in Chinese language tasks but also ranking well globally.Nvidia: Traditionally a hardware provider, Nvidia has entered the model arena directly with offerings like the Nemotron series, signaling a potential trend of hardware companies developing models optimized for their platforms.Cohere: Cohere focuses primarily on enterprise use cases, developing models like Command designed for business applications, often emphasizing reliability, safety, and integration capabilities.This competitive landscape indicates a shift from early OpenAI dominance towards a multi-polar environment. While US-based companies still produce the majority of frontier models, organizations from China (DeepSeek, Alibaba) are rapidly closing the performance gap. The entry of hardware giants like Nvidia adds another dimension to the competition. This dynamic offers users more choices but also introduces potential market fragmentation and highlights the growing geopolitical dimension of AI development.4.6. The Licensing Divide: Open vs. ProprietaryA fundamental distinction among the top LLMs lies in their licensing models, broadly categorized as proprietary or open-source (though nuances exist within “open”).Proprietary Models: Models from OpenAI (GPT/o-series, GPT-4.5), Google (Gemini series), Anthropic (Claude series), xAI (Grok series), and Alibaba’s top-tier Qwen-Max fall under proprietary licenses.Implications: Access is typically granted via paid APIs. Users benefit from potentially cutting-edge performance and often integrated platforms or support services. However, these models offer limited transparency regarding architecture, training data, and parameter counts. Costs are generally higher, and users face the risk of vendor lock-in, relying on the provider for updates, availability, and pricing stability.Open-Source/Open-Weight Models: This category includes models like Meta’s Llama series, DeepSeek’s V3/R1, many of Alibaba’s Qwen models (e.g., Qwen2.5 72B/32B), and Google’s Gemma models.Implications: These models generally offer lower access costs, particularly when utilizing third-party hosting providers offering competitive rates. They provide greater transparency (weights are often available, parameters known) and allow for customization through fine-tuning. Users can potentially run these models locally or on their own infrastructure, avoiding vendor lock-in and ensuring data privacy. While historically lagging slightly behind the absolute frontier of proprietary models, the performance gap has significantly narrowed, with top open models demonstrating competitive results on many benchmarks. Deployment and management, however, may require more technical expertise compared to using a managed proprietary API.It is crucial to note that “open” licensing is not uniform. While some models use permissive licenses like MIT (used for DeepSeek’s code) or Apache 2.0 (used for some Qwen models), others employ custom community licenses. Meta’s Llama 3.1 Community License, for example, includes specific use restrictions prohibiting certain applications (e.g., related to illegal activities, harassment, unauthorized professional practice, generating misinformation). DeepSeek’s Model License also contains use-based restrictions outlined in an attachment. Google’s Gemma license is another custom variant.This strategic use of “controlled openness,” particularly by Meta and DeepSeek, represents a significant competitive tactic. By releasing powerful models with accessible weights, they foster large developer communities, accelerate innovation on top of their platforms, and exert considerable pressure on the pricing and value proposition of closed, proprietary models. However, the presence of use restrictions in some popular “open” licenses means that potential users, especially commercial entities, must carefully review the specific terms to ensure compliance and understand any limitations on modification or deployment. The distinction is not simply binary (open vs. closed) but exists on a spectrum of permissiveness and control.5. Key Trends and Strategic InsightsAnalyzing the characteristics and competitive positioning of the top LLMs reveals several overarching trends shaping the field in early 2025.Performance Convergence at the Top: While proprietary models from OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic frequently occupy the highest ranks on aggregate leaderboards, the performance difference between these elite models and the next tier — which includes leading open-weight models like Llama 3.1 405B and DeepSeek V3 — appears to be narrowing across many standard benchmarks. Open models demonstrate particularly strong performance in specific domains; for instance, Anthropic’s Claude 3.7 Sonnet leads in agentic coding benchmarks like SWE-Bench, while DeepSeek models excel in reasoning benchmarks like MMLU-Pro and GPQA. This trend suggests that access to massive datasets and advanced training techniques is enabling open models to rapidly approach parity with closed models for many tasks, increasing competitive pressure. The Elo score difference between the top-ranked and 10th-ranked models on Chatbot Arena reportedly shrank significantly over the year preceding the 2025 AI Index report.The Ascendancy of Reasoning Models: A prominent theme is the explicit focus on enhancing and marketing “reasoning” capabilities. Models like OpenAI’s ‘o’ series, Anthropic’s Claude 3.7 Sonnet with extended thinking, Google’s Gemini models with “thinking” capabilities, and xAI’s Grok with specialized modes are all positioned as being adept at complex, multi-step problem-solving. This often involves internal processes analogous to chain-of-thought or self-reflection, allowing the models to break down complex problems in areas like mathematics, science, coding, and planning. This focus signifies a strategic push beyond simple pattern recognition or text generation towards AI systems capable of more sophisticated cognitive tasks. Evaluating these capabilities requires specialized benchmarks (GPQA, MATH, MMLU-Pro, EnigmaEval), and utilizing these reasoning features can introduce new cost and latency considerations, such as controllable “thinking budgets” or explicit reasoning modes. The development of more powerful reasoning models paves the way for more autonomous and capable AI agents that can handle complex workflows.Multimodality Becoming Standard: The ability to process information beyond text is increasingly becoming a standard feature among top-tier LLMs. Models like GPT-4o, the Gemini family, the Claude family, Grok, and specialized Qwen variants (VL/Omni) can accept image inputs, and some are extending capabilities to audio and video processing or generation. This integration of multiple modalities significantly broadens the range of potential applications, enabling tasks like visual question answering, image captioning, data extraction from charts and documents, and potentially richer human-computer interaction. However, it also introduces greater complexity in API design, usage, and evaluation, requiring benchmarks that assess performance across different data types.Emphasis on Efficiency and Optimization: Alongside the push for peak performance, there is a concurrent trend towards greater efficiency. Highly optimized smaller models are demonstrating capabilities previously exclusive to much larger ones. Examples include Microsoft’s Phi series, OpenAI’s ‘mini’ variants, Google’s Flash/Flash-Lite models, and smaller Llama variants. Furthermore, the cost required to achieve a specific performance level (e.g., GPT-3.5 level on MMLU) has plummeted dramatically over the past couple of years. This drive for efficiency, achieved through architectural improvements, better training techniques, and quantization, makes powerful AI more accessible and economically viable for a wider range of applications.The Evaluation Arms Race: As LLMs rapidly improve, they quickly “saturate” existing benchmarks, achieving near-perfect scores and diminishing the benchmark’s ability to differentiate between top models. This necessitates the continuous development of new, more challenging benchmarks designed to test the limits of AI capabilities, such as GPQA, SWE-Bench, and MMLU-Pro. However, benchmark creation faces challenges, including the risk of data contamination (models being inadvertently trained on benchmark data, inflating scores) and the difficulty of capturing nuanced aspects like creativity, common sense, or true understanding. Consequently, a multi-faceted approach to evaluation is crucial, combining standardized benchmarks with human preference data (like Chatbot Arena), task-specific evaluations, and dedicated assessments for safety, fairness, and robustness.6. Conclusion and RecommendationsThe LLM landscape in early 2025 is exceptionally dynamic, characterized by intense competition, rapid innovation, and a diversifying range of models catering to different needs and priorities. Proprietary models from OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic often lead in peak performance, particularly in complex reasoning and novel capabilities, but typically come at a higher cost and with less transparency. Simultaneously, open-weight models spearheaded by Meta, DeepSeek, and others are rapidly closing the performance gap, offering compelling alternatives with greater flexibility and lower costs, though sometimes encumbered by specific license restrictions.Key differentiators among the top models include not only raw benchmark scores but also API cost structures (which are becoming increasingly complex), maximum context window sizes (with million-token capabilities emerging as a significant feature), the availability of specialized modes (like reasoning or thinking modes), multimodal capabilities, and the terms of their licenses (proprietary vs. various shades of open).Choosing the “best” LLM depends heavily on the specific requirements of the application and the user’s priorities. Based on the analysis of the top 10 models circa early 2025, the following recommendations can be made:For Highest Performance/Cutting-Edge Capabilities: Users prioritizing absolute performance, especially for complex reasoning, coding, or novel tasks, should evaluate the latest iterations of OpenAI’s GPT-4o and o-series (e.g., o3), Google’s Gemini 2.5 Pro, Anthropic’s Claude 3.7 Sonnet (especially with extended thinking) or Claude 3 Opus, and potentially xAI’s Grok 3. Selection should be guided by performance on benchmarks most relevant to the target task, balanced against the significant API costs associated with these models.For Best Value/Cost-Effectiveness: Applications requiring strong performance but operating under tighter budget constraints should consider models like Google’s Gemini 2.0 Flash or Flash-Lite, OpenAI’s GPT-4o mini, or leading open-weight models accessed via cost-effective third-party providers. Llama 3.1 (especially 70B or quantized 405B), DeepSeek V3, and lower-parameter Qwen models often provide excellent performance-per-dollar. Careful comparison of provider pricing and performance on specific tasks is essential.For Largest Context Needs: Applications requiring the processing of very large documents, codebases, or maintaining long conversational histories should prioritize models with million-token-plus context windows. Google’s Gemini series (1M-2M tokens) is the primary offering in this category, with OpenAI’s GPT-4.1 (1M) also being an option. Users should verify the practical usability and cost implications for their specific workload.For Open Source Preference/Customization/Local Deployment: Users who value transparency, need the ability to fine-tune, wish to avoid vendor lock-in, or require local deployment should focus on open-weight models. Meta’s Llama series (3.1, 3.3), DeepSeek (V3, R1), Alibaba’s open Qwen models, and Google’s Gemma are leading candidates. Evaluation should focus on performance benchmarks relevant to the use case and a thorough review of the specific license terms (e.g., Llama 3.1 Community License, DeepSeek Model License, MIT, Apache 2.0) to ensure compatibility with intended usage.For Specific Tasks (Coding/Reasoning): When targeting applications demanding strong coding or reasoning abilities, selection should be heavily influenced by performance on relevant specialized benchmarks (e.g., SWE-Bench, HumanEval, MATH, GPQA, MMLU-Pro). Models frequently excelling in these areas include Anthropic’s Claude 3.7 Sonnet, OpenAI’s GPT-4.1 and o-series, Google’s Gemini 2.5 Pro, DeepSeek’s R1/V3, and xAI’s Grok 3.Looking ahead, the pace of innovation is unlikely to slow. We can expect continued improvements in model performance, efficiency, and multimodality. The focus on reasoning and agentic capabilities will likely intensify, leading to AI systems capable of more autonomous and complex task execution. The interplay between powerful proprietary models and increasingly capable open-source alternatives will continue to shape the market dynamics, driving innovation and influencing pricing strategies. Simultaneously, research and development around AI safety, alignment, and responsible deployment will remain critical as these powerful technologies become further integrated into society. Continuous monitoring of benchmarks, leaderboards, and model releases will be essential for anyone navigating this rapidly evolving field.Works CitedThe 2025 AI Index Report | Stanford HAIStanford HAI’s 2025 AI Index Reveals Record Growth in AI Capabilities, Investment, and Regulation — Business WireArtificial Intelligence Index Report 2025 — AWS (Note: Link pointed to a PDF on AWS S3)LLM Leaderboard 2025 — Vellum AIThe Best AI Chatbots & LLMs of Q1 2025: Rankings & Data — UpMarketLLM Leaderboard — Compare GPT-4o, Llama 3, Mistral, Gemini … — Artificial AnalysisLLM Leaderboard — LLMWorldSEAL LLM Leaderboards: Expert-Driven Private Evaluations — Scale AIChatbot Arena (formerly LMSYS): Free AI Chat to Compare & Test … — lmarena.aiChatbot Arena Leaderboard — a Hugging Face Space by lmarena-aiChatbot Arena — OpenLM.aiHELM Lite — Holistic Evaluation of Language Models (HELM) — Stanford CRFMChatbot Arena Rankings 2025 — Which is the Best AI Chatbot? — SybridAI Index 2025: State of AI in 10 Charts | Stanford HAIAI by AI Weekly Top 5: 02.17–23, 2025 — Champaign MagazineDeepSeek upgrades V3 model with more parameters, open-source shift — TechNodemeta-llama/Llama-3.1–405B — Hugging FacePricing — OpenAI API DocsGemini Developer API Pricing | Gemini API | Google AI for DevelopersClaude vs. ChatGPT: What’s the difference? [2025] — ZapierAPI | xAIGemini 2.5 Pro | Generative AI on Vertex AI — Google CloudGemini models | Gemini API | Google AI for DevelopersGemini 2.0 Flash | Generative AI on Vertex AI — Google CloudLearn about supported models | Vertex AI in Firebase — GoogleFree OpenAI & every-LLM API Pricing Calculator | Updated Apr 2025 — DocsBot AI14 Popular LLM Benchmarks to Know in 2025 — Analytics VidhyaLLM Rankings: programming — OpenRouterHELM Capabilities — Stanford CRFM blogGemini thinking | Gemini API | Google AI for Developerso3 model | Clarifai — The World’s AIClaude 3.7 Sonnet and Claude Code — Anthropic NewsHolistic Evaluation of Language Models (HELM) — Stanford CRFMLLM Leaderboard 2025: Top AI Models Ranked — BytePlus TopicLMSYS Chatbot Arena Leaderboard — BytePlus TopicEnd of the Open LLM Leaderboard : r/LocalLLaMA — RedditArchived Open LLM Leaderboard (2024–2025) — a OpenEvals Collection — Hugging FaceLeaderboard Details Datasets — Beginners — Hugging Face ForumsArchived versions of Open LLM Leaderboard — Beginners — Hugging Face ForumsLMSYS Chatbot Arena Leaderboard — Stephen’s Lighthouse blogFrom GPT-4 to Llama 3: LMSYS Chatbot Arena Ranks Top LLMs — Analytics Vidhya blogOpen LLM Leaderboard Archived — Hugging Face SpacesFind a leaderboard — a Hugging Face Space by OpenEvalsOpen LLM Leaderboard — Hugging Faceblog/open-llm-leaderboard-mmlu.md at main — Hugging Face GitHubLLM Performance Leaderboard — a Hugging Face Space by ArtificialAnalysisGemini 2.0 models added to AIME 2025 Leaderboard : r/singularity — RedditFull article: A preliminary exploration of ChatGPT’s potential in medical reasoning and patient care — Taylor & Francis OnlineGPT-4 — WikipediaWhat will be the top AI model this month? | Trade on KalshiGemini 2 | Generative AI | Google Cloud DocsLLM Rankings — OpenRouterUse Anthropic’s Claude models | Generative AI on Vertex AI — Google Cloud DocsClaude 3.7 Sonnet — AnthropicLlama 3.1 405B Instruct FP8 — Single GPU | DigitalOcean Marketplace 1-Click AppMeta: Llama 3.1 405B Instruct — OpenRouter ParametersLlama 4: Benchmarks, API Pricing, Open Source — Apidog BlogDeepSeek-V3/LICENSE-MODEL at main — DeepSeek AI GitHubDeepSeek-V3/LICENSE-CODE at main — DeepSeek AI GitHubInside Grok: The Complete Story Behind Elon Musk’s Revolutionary AI Chatbot — Latenode BlogGrok-3 — Most Advanced AI Model from xAI — OpenCV BlogGrok 3: xAI Chatbot — Features & Performance | Ultralytics BlogQwen — WikipediaAlibaba Cloud Releases Qwen2.5-Omni-7B An End-to-end Multimodal AI Model — Alibaba Cloud BlogAlibaba Cloud Model Studio DocsGPT-4.5 (Preview) vs Phi-4 Multimodal Instruct: Model Comparison — Artificial AnalysisChat GPT 4.5 preview — One API 200+ AI Models — AIMLAPiBeware of gpt-4.5-preview cost! 50x the cost of fast premium requests : r/cursor — RedditWhat Does AI ACTUALLY Cost in 2025? Your Guide on How to Find the Best Value… | The NeuronMeta AI Models API Pricing Guide — BytePlus TopicQwen Turbo: API Provider Performance Benchmarking & Price Analysis — Artificial AnalysisStart building with Gemini 2.5 Flash — Google Developers BlogOpenAI API (GPT-4o, GPT-3.5) — TypingMind DocsGrok AI Pricing: How Much Does Grok Cost in 2025? — Tech.coBest LLMs!? (Focus: Best & 7B-32B) 02/21/2025 : r/LocalLLaMA — RedditChihayaYuka/Open-o3: Run o3-pro on your computer. — GitHubDisclaimerPlease be aware that the information presented in this article is based on publicly available data, benchmarks, and reported capabilities of Large Language Models as understood around April 18, 2025. The field of artificial intelligence is subject to extremely rapid change. New models, updated versions, significant performance shifts, pricing adjustments, and evolving evaluation methodologies can emerge frequently and without notice. Consequently, some details herein may become outdated shortly after publication. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, readers are strongly encouraged to refer directly to the official announcements, documentation, and pricing pages provided by the respective model developers and API providers. This analysis represents a snapshot in time and should be used accordingly.Enjoyed this Analysis?If you found this deep dive into the current LLM landscape insightful, you might also enjoy exploring the evolution towards more autonomous AI systems. Check out my previous article on Medium:The Rise of Agentic AI: From Generative Models to Autonomous AgentsLearn more about how AI is transitioning from powerful generative tools to increasingly independent agents.0 Commentarii 0 Distribuiri 85 Views
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GAMINGBOLT.COMPhantom Blade Zero Takes Inspiration from Souls Games For Exploration and Resident Evil for Vibes – DirectorWhile the studio behind Phantom Blade Zero has been clear about designing the upcoming RPG as being closer in gameplay terms to a title like Devil May Cry 5 than it would be to Dark Souls, the studio has mentioned that is taking inspiration from several games, including FromSoftware’s Souls franchise. Speaking to GamesRadar, developer S-Game spoke about how Phantom Blade Zero‘s various aspects have been inspired by Devil May Cry, Souls, and even Resident Evil. Where Devil May Cry was the inspiration behind combat, the Souls franchise is where the studio is taking its cues from for level design. Resident Evil, on the other hand, will serve as the inspiration for the game’s narrative design and general atmosphere. “On the Souls-lite level design side, we are definitely a fan of and inspired by the pre-Elden Ring, interconnected, tight level design,” said a representative from S-Game. They also mentioned that director “Soulframe” Liang studied architecture at school, “so the level design is something that’s very important for us and we want to have very robust levels, have a lot of depth to them, very dense.” Liang himself spoke about how the various inspirations for Phantom Blade Zero came together in different ways. Taking to GamesRadar, he describes the title as being more like a Resident Evil game with an emphasis on fighting with swords. “Before, everyone thought we’re making a Soulslike game,” explained Liang. “So in order to prove we have a totally different combat system for the core gameplay, we’re showcasing these combat demos. But now people have maybe come the other way around, they think it’s a hack-and-slash with no story and you just go kill to the end, but it’s not something like that. It’s more like a Resident Evil but fighting with blades.” Liang also spoke about how exploration will be a core part of the gameplay in Phantom Blade Zero along with its fast-paced action gameplay and character progression. He describes the game’s exploration aspects as coming from a Souls games, while the “vibes” come for Resident Evil. “Anything that is useful and good for us to make our pillar, a playable kung fu movie with exploration and character progression, we’ll make use of it,” he said. “Whether it’s exploration from a Souls game or vibes from Resident Evil or combat from this hack-and-slash game, we’ll take that and bring them together. But the overall experience is still very coherent. It’s not ripped apart from something else.” Ultimately, S-Game wants to bring back classic kung fu action back in its own way. With Phantom Blade Zero, the studio says that its ideologies and principles in game design hold everything together. If one aspect were to fail, it would also bring the rest of the game down with it. “We have deeper ideologies and principles in designing the game,” said Liang. “If we don’t have that, every element we brought from different genres would feel separate and fall apart. One is to bring back the golden age of Chinese kung fu movies, starting from Bruce Lee in the 1970s and into maybe the early 2000s. We want to rekindle this passion for the kung fu movie. The other one, for gaming itself, we want to rediscover the golden age of PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2.” Phantom Blade Zero is currently in development for PC and PS5. While it doesn’t have a release date as of yet, the studio might be targeting a Fall 2026 release window. The studio has also previously revealed that it will take players between 20 and 30 hours to finish.0 Commentarii 0 Distribuiri 88 Views
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VARIETY.COM‘Sunderfolk’ Review: Revolutionary Smartphone Controls Make This D&D-Inspired Tactical RPG a Co-Op BlastYou’ll put your controller down a lot while playing “Sunderfolk” — but that’s a good thing. The new tactical RPG video game puts control of its fantasy creatures in the palm of your hand (alongside up to three of your friends) with some revolutionary smartphone controls. Instead of using a PlayStation, Xbox or Nintendo Switch controller, you’ll use an app on your phone to control your character’s movements and attacks as they fight hordes of enemies in turn-based combat. Taking place in a mystical world called the Sunderlands, a peaceful village called Arden, where its denizens are magical, talking animals, is under attack by dark forces. A group of six heroes, including the arcanist crow, bard bat, berserker polar bear, pyromancer salamander, ranger goat and rogue otter, must team up and stop the spread of evil before it takes over the Sunderlands. Related Stories The good vs. evil story is simple and fine enough, but it takes a backseat to the crisp graphics, intricate co-op gameplay and seamless controls from your phone. “Sunderfolk” is the debut game from new studio Secret Door, released by developer and publisher Dreamhaven. Michael Morhaime, the co-founder and former CEO of Blizzard Entertainment, created Dreamhaven with many of his past colleagues, and the charismatic characters and sharp controls of Blizzard’s prestige games shine through in “Sunderfolk.” The goofy grin of the pyromancer as you launch a fireball, the stoic, humorless gaze of the ranger and the bruising hammer slam of the berserker are some of the infectious character quirks that make each animal a joy to play. Popular on Variety With six characters, there are dozens of gameplay combinations to try out and master in “Sunderfolk.” While the game is mean to be played in couch co-op with up to four people, one solo gamer can take control of 2-4 of the heroes and tackle missions just as easily. You can swap characters between missions, and each hero equally levels up and unlocks more powerful abilities as the game progresses, so nobody is lagging behind. If you want to rush in, absorb blows and dole out damage, then the berserker (naturally) is for you. Pairing the berserker with the ranger or bard, who can power up party members and weaken enemies, makes for a good team composition. And more magical users may gravitate toward the pyromancer, who can litter the field with fire and heal itself with the flames, or the arcanist, who deploys decoys on the field and can teleport long distances. There’s a character for every playstyle, and plenty of combinations to fight through each mission. With just the flick of a finger, you can control the movement, choose attacks and do just about everything else from a smartphone. The only time you need to use a normal controller is booting the game up and launching the software, from there you can ditch your controller completely and use your phone. It takes a bit to get used to, but the controls quickly become second nature and intuitive. It may be out of the norm to use a phone for most games (if you’re not playing “Jackbox”), but it makes for a refreshing experience that more titles could surely employ. It’s hard to capture the tabletop magic of playing Dungeons & Dragons with your friends, but “Sunderfolk” comes pretty close. Playing with 1-3 other players in couch co-op makes for strategic gameplay that rewards thought-out combat and combining heroes’ skills. Only one copy of the game is needed to play locally, but on the down-side, gaming online with friends requires screen-sharing or remote play. At a time when co-op games seem to be having a renaissance, it would’ve been easier if “Sunderfolk” had the same online friend pass that recent hit “Split Fiction” used. Nevertheless, assembling a party of heroes or playing solo is just as fun. Overall, “Sunderfolk” is perfect for fans of tactical RPGs or D&D fantasy action. The characters invite you right in, and the strategic, varied levels will keep you hooked.0 Commentarii 0 Distribuiri 66 Views
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WWW.RESETERA.COMNintendo Maintains Nintendo Switch 2 Console Pricing. Accessories Increasing in Price. Subject to Change. Retail Pre-Orders to Begin April 24 in U.S.ItsBradazHD Member Nov 21, 2018 827 Retail pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 will begin on April 24, 2025. At launch, the price for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will remain as announced on April 2 at $449.99, and the Nintendo Switch 2 + Mario Kart World bundle will remain as announced at $499.99. Pricing for both physical and digital versions of Mario Kart World ($79.99) and Donkey Kong Bananza ($69.99) will also remain unchanged at launch. However, Nintendo Switch 2 accessories will experience price adjustments from those announced on April 2 due to changes in market conditions. Other adjustments to the price of any Nintendo product are also possible in the future depending on market conditions. We apologize for the retail pre-order delay, and hope this reduces some of the uncertainty our customers may be experiencing. We thank our customers for their patience, and we share their excitement to experience Nintendo Switch 2 starting June 5, 2025. Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price - As of April 18, 2025 Nintendo Switch 2 - $449.99 Nintendo Switch 2 + Mario Kart World Bundle - $499.99 Mario Kart World - $79.99 Donkey Kong Bananza - $69.99 Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller - $84.99 Joy-Con 2 Pair - $94.99 Joy-Con 2 Charging Grip - $39.99 Joy-Con 2 Strap - $13.99 Joy-Con 2 Wheel Set - $24.99 Nintendo Switch 2 Camera - $54.99 Nintendo Switch 2 Dock Set - $119.99 Nintendo Switch 2 Carrying Case & Screen Protector - $39.99 Nintendo Switch 2 All-In-One Carrying Case - $84.99 Nintendo Switch 2 AC Adapter - $34.99 Samsung microSD Express Card – 256GB for Nintendo Switch™ 2 - $59.99 Full Details: Nintendo PR Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 122,714 I am genuinely surprised. Freelance Brian Member Oct 25, 2017 2,134 LETS FUCKING GO!!!!! RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,332 Lets gooo Like the hat? Member Oct 25, 2017 6,627 Glad to have a date. Hopefully i can get one. DrFunk Member Oct 25, 2017 14,473 MadJosh04 Member Nov 9, 2022 2,466 Holy shit -Le Monde- Avenger Dec 8, 2017 14,026 Woooo!!!! Let's go baby jroc74 Member Oct 27, 2017 33,444 Ok, let's do this. NotLiquid One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 37,636 Well well well super-famicom Avenger Oct 26, 2017 29,740 Huh, no change? Parshias Member Oct 25, 2017 1,733 I was tempted to grab a new Pro Controller, but with that price increase I am definitely sticking with my old Switch controller and just hitting the power button to wake the console. Good news that the console and game prices remain the same. dallow_bg Member Oct 28, 2017 11,661 texas I see the higher prices on the accessories. Makes sense. PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,212 Good for Nintendo. It probably won't last, but it's good that they're biting the bullet for now. Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,388 Good, happy for NA to finally be able to pre-order, haha. « At launch, the price for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will remain as announced » So yeah, we don't know what will happen, if you want one you'd better get it early. Allyougame Member Oct 25, 2017 950 Let's go!! ap_2 Member Jan 23, 2021 1,738 So you can buy a Switch 2 at the announced price but the dock and pro controller are 300 bucks each? Am I reading that too uncharitably? Edit - OP was adjusted to include prices. Not too bad tbh. Nahbac Member Nov 11, 2018 2,612 So accessories are going up to help offset tariffs and market volatility, while they are non-committal about the price of the Switch 2 being safe from future price increases after the initial launch. Kevin360 OG Direct OP Member Oct 25, 2017 8,152 Excellent. Aaronrules380 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 24,058 Given the talks about shifting all the vietnam units for US consumption, wondering if supply constraints will be much larger due to not being able to sell chinese produced units in the US with the tariffs PaultheNerd Member Dec 25, 2018 871 Glad to finally have a date! The fact that they allude to prices possibly changing in the future will make this a bloodbath lol Jumpman23 Member Nov 14, 2017 1,120 Same price? Let's goooooo! metsallica One Winged Slayer Member Oct 27, 2017 13,702 It's fine. Can deal with the accessory adjustments. logash Member Oct 27, 2017 6,101 Hell yeah! I have been waiting to lock in a preorder since the direct. Cannot Wait :) Also, only $5 adjustment to Pro controller? Not bad. NotLiquid One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 37,636 DrFunk said: This was expected since several of the accessories are still listed as China produced (case, charge grip, and AC adapter). PlanetSmasher The Abominable Showman Member Oct 25, 2017 131,212 super-famicom said: Huh, no change? Click to expand... Click to shrink... For now. They've probably allocated enough stock in the US for launch. Things can and very likely will change if Trump continues to fuck around and Nintendo isn't able to tweak their supply chain safely. itsrealfood Member Oct 25, 2017 259 Genuinely surprised at this and stoked for next week! GasProblem Prophet of Truth Member Nov 18, 2017 3,396 Good luck with getting a preorder in US era! Max|Payne Member Oct 27, 2017 9,589 Portugal Wow, finally some good news. poptire Avatar Wrecking Crew The Fallen Oct 25, 2017 14,704 Knew they wouldn't jack up prices in their biggest market, even if we did deserve it lol Spork4000 Avenger Oct 27, 2017 9,896 Get 'em while they're hot people, likely only getting more expensive over time. Busaiku Teyvat Traveler Member Oct 25, 2017 17,358 LET'S GOOOOO Rainer516 Member Oct 29, 2017 1,433 Is that the same date as when the Nintendo emails go out for direct purchases from them? a Master Ninja Member Dec 11, 2017 5,600 $100 for another set of joycons hurts. ragolliangatan Legendary Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Aug 31, 2019 6,108 good news for the U.S that console prices are remaining the same (for now) Parshias Member Oct 25, 2017 1,733 Rainer516 said: Is that the same date as when the Nintendo emails go out for direct purchases from them? Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nintendo store pre-orders are May 8th. Tagovailoa Member Feb 5, 2023 1,447 Just remember we are boycotting TARGET do NOT buy from them! I know this will get lost in the flood of excitement but please Imran Member Oct 24, 2017 8,570 I guess I was wrong, they would announce it on a Friday. Jake2byFour Member Oct 28, 2017 5,147 Them Joy con 2 prices 😭 Delaney Member Oct 25, 2017 3,805 Guessing it will probably go up around September depending on launch window numbers. Lowblood Member Oct 30, 2017 6,201 It's the right way to go. Get the product out there now while you can. God knows what the situation will look like afterwards (or even next week, lol) but all they can do is react to the current situation. Hopefully preorders aren't a bloodbath. Everyone will be expecting this to be more expensive by fall. Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 122,714 Dunno if I'm supposed to read more into them singling out Mario Kart and DK instead of them just saying the game prices are unaffected as a whole GrimGrinningGuy Member Oct 25, 2017 9,326 Was hoping Nintendo would bump up their own website invites so I know if I gotta fight for this or not asmith906 Member Oct 27, 2017 29,736 Those controller prices are brutal. It sounds like only the launch systems will stay the same price and they are leaving it open to a price increase in the future. That's about what I expected. Jamrock User Member Jan 24, 2018 3,387 No intention to buy this until later this year, but by then it'll cost like 1grand. RoninChaos Member Oct 26, 2017 8,965 $95 for joycons and $85 for a pro controller. Lmao oh my god. So many of yall are gonna be like "LETS GO!" and "ITS ON!" That shit must be like a bat signal for Nintendo and other companies to know it's okay to gouge you. And so many people are gonna flood the stores to get anything cause of tariffs. Lol what a shit show. Televoid Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Nov 28, 2024 1,305 DrFunk said: So they're eating the price of the console and games atm, but adjusting all the accessories based on each tariff situation. And if the situation goes on, price increases by the fall/holiday to add a sense of FOMO early on. That's definitely a way to deal with this sort of thing, but again this whole thing is not their fault. pulsemyne Member Oct 30, 2017 3,032 Looks like they are prepared to eat shit on the console price and pass it on to accessories. A sensible move. Freelance Brian Member Oct 25, 2017 2,134 Imran said: I guess I was wrong, they would announce it on a Friday. Click to expand... Click to shrink... You were the one to always say you can't predict Nintendo's announcement/release timings too lol CloseTalker Sister in the Craft Member Oct 25, 2017 37,748 Mario Kart is $109 in Canada lololol. A full $20 more than current games0 Commentarii 0 Distribuiri 67 Views