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The Oscars are upon us again. This year, one of the Best Picture contenders has been dogged by controversy, while in several other categories, the race feels a lot more wide open than in past years. In order to get a better understanding of what to expect, and to gain some insight into how the Oscars work, I turned to two of Voxs culture experts, Kyndall Cunningham and Alex Abad-Santos. They pulled back the curtain on the Oscars for me, and also told me the movies that really shouldve gotten some love from the Academy this year. Our conversation, edited for length and clarity is below:Sean: Say youre coming in cold (like me, Im ashamed to say). Whats the one thing you need to know about this weekends Oscars, and why?Kyndall: Its not surprising if you feel out of the loop, because its been a very odd, underwhelming year in Oscar movies, especially compared to last year, when you had Barbie and Oppenheimer. If you were a person living and breathing, you saw at least one of those movies that year, and maybe even one of the smaller movies that people were really enthusiastic about, like Poor Things or Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest. Alex: I would totally agree with that. The biggest movie of the year, or at least at the Oscars this year is Wicked, probably. But and now that I say this, watch Wicked win everything Wicked isnt considered a frontrunner, which is very different than what happened with Oppenheimer. That movie was the big favorite going in, and it was such a hugely popular movie for what it was. Wicked is probably the only Oscars movie this year with that kind of mainstream clout, and its not favored to win as much.Kyndall: I would say one other monocultural movie of last year was Challengers, and that was shut out completely, even though it seemed like a throwback Oscars movie, in terms being artful, but also accessible.Sean: What do you all think happened? Why arent those movies getting lots of Oscars love?Alex: I feel like its just one of those years where nothing shook out for any one movie. Kyndall: I would agree that there arent a lot of movies that came out this year that people would definitively declare masterpieces, whereas, last year, everyone was like, The Zone of Interest is the best Holocaust movie thats ever been made, and Anatomy of a Fall is a masterpiece. Even with Challengers, a lot of people saw it and talked about it, but outside of the internet, it was a little polarizing. You hear a lot of caveats: Anora was funny, but it wasnt Sean Bakers best movie. Conclave was interesting, but wasnt super intellectual.Alex: Its also funny, because there are a few controversies surrounding some of the movies this year, like: Did The Brutalist use AI? The Twitter account of Emilia Prez star Karla Sofa Gascn, was never checked by publicists, apparently. There was an online narrative that Sean Baker makes the same kind of weirdly fetishy movies about sex work over and over.Sean: Can we talk about Karla Sofa Gascn and the Emilia Prez situation for a second?Kyndall: Ummmmmmm Sean: She was caught having tweeted a lot of racist, inappropriate things, right? Alex: So many. There was one where she was like, Hitler was just very opinionated about things, right? There was one calling George Floyd a drug addict no one really cared about. There were so many like that, to the point where I couldnt tell if the tweets I was seeing attributed to her were real, because they were just so absurd. Kyndall: Apparently shes coming to the Oscars, which will be interesting. Shes nominated for Best Actress. Itll be interesting to see if we get shots of people consoling her during the show, and the amount of applause she gets once her clip plays.Alex: It is kind of funny that in normal times, wed probably have seen the right freak out, like, Oh my gosh, theres a trans woman thats up for Best Actress, Hollywood is so terrible! But since Karla has become a pariah overnight, they cant even fearmonger the transgender drug cartel movie that liberals love, because liberals apparently do not love it enough. Its this fascinating, weird, darkly hilarious moment, like the anti-woke woke backlash to the woke backlash to the anti-woke, right?Sean: Too many wokes, Alex! So in years past, weve heard this question of: Are the Oscars still important? Do they matter?Kyndall: Judging by the quality of the movies that are being nominated this year, I would say they dont. Still, the Oscars are always going to matter in terms of visibility, whos getting opportunities, what kind of movies are being heralded as great, and what subjects people are interested in seeing. Alex: None of these award shows matter unless the movie that you like wins, and then they matter a lot.To Kyndalls point, the stuff that wins does make it safe for studios to greenlight similar movies. Look at Parasite winning. That knocked down the door for more Asian representation. A few years later, Everything Everywhere All at Once comes out. Then Michelle Yeoh wins for that. Everything doesnt suddenly change, but the Oscars do help create small changes in the industry.Kyndall: The Oscars reflect the story that Hollywood wants to tell about itself. You see that in nominating Demi Moore for Best Actress this year, after brushing her to the side for years and years. Now the industry is saying, Oh, we actually do value her. Sean: Are the Oscars a way of Hollywood apologizing? Or sort of correcting for past mistakes? Kyndall: Thats the case with certain wins. If Demi Moore wins, Ill certainly look at it that way.Alex: With the Oscars, who wins is probably equal parts this movie is good and if this movie wins, it will make the people who vote for the Oscar winners look good. It goes back to the whole idea that awards voters want to sell a larger story about who theyre voting for, and who theyll recognize. Sean: To go back to what you were saying about Oscars wins shifting the movies Hollywood is willing to make: Do you see any shifts coming out of this years nominees? Kyndall: Its hard to say, but if anything, Id guess wed see studios being more interested in middlebrow adult movies like Conclave. If Nickel Boys which is all about the relationship between these two Black men were more of a frontrunner, you might see that heralding a change. But really, the fact that the movie isnt more talked about also speaks to the limits of the Oscars. They dont have linear effects. Just because a piece of Black or Asian art wins big one year doesnt necessarily mean well get more of those films, or that all of a sudden the Academy is dying to award these movies.Alex: This is going to make me sound like a cynical guy, and dont let the Oscar voters assassinate me because of this, but if you look at Emilia Prez, it seems very progressive on paper. It has a trans lead, a transgender story at its heart, its in Spanish, its got a woman of color whos the Best Supporting Actress nominee. But, if you look at the actual text of the movie, one of the criticisms its faced is that its regressive, and was made by a French director whose ideas about Mexican culture dont seem particularly thoughtful at all. And its still getting all these awards and recognition.Why? Cynically, I think its because theres a lot of stuff on paper that voters want to reward, and giving it an award makes your group look like a diverse, progressive organization. Kyndall: Theres a certain type of diverse film that I feel the Academy is willing to embrace. We see that in the distinction between Emilia Prez, which has a lot of sensational violence and stereotypical depictions of Mexicans and trans people, and the much more nuanced Nickel Boys, which, especially compared to other Black films about segregation and the civil rights era doesnt visualize violence, and is very tender. Sean: Say the Academy threw in the towel and say, Kyndall and Alex, youre queen and king of the Oscars now, you all decide who wins. Who would you give the top awards to? Alex: Id give every award to Ariana Grande. Best Cinematography? Ariana Grande. Best Actress? Ariana Grande. Best Director? Ariana Grande. This is my chance to say, I loved Ariana Grande in Wicked. I thought she was fantastic. I would love to see her in another movie. I also think Denis Villeneuve, who directed Dune Two its absolutely bonkers that that man is not winning. Lunacy. That is lunacy to me. Nosferatu should win Best Cinematography. Ive been Nosferatu pilled. If Ariana Grande cant win every award, I want Count Orlock from Nosferatu winning some.Kyndall: For Best Picture, Challengers would have been very delightful. Its a fun, horny movie that speaks to the snobby Oscars crowd that needs something artful to win. I also think Luca Guadagnino, who directed Challengers, is overdue for some sort of Oscars recognition. Alex: And the score from Challengers? Like, you cant take the Oscars organization seriously if they cant give challengers a score nomination.Kyndall: A nomination at the very least! For Best Actress, Id have to give a shout out to Marianne Jean-Baptiste who starred in Hard Truths, where she plays this working class British woman whos very grouchy and screams at everyone. Its just such a realistic depiction of someone who just, like, cant deal with living in the world and being a person in society. And the movie itself is just, like, very smart and interesting, and its a great realist piece of film.This piece originally ran in the Today, Explained newsletter. For more stories like this, sign up here.See More: