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[Digital Foundry] Was the rumoured Switch Pro actually Switch 2 all along?

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Was the rumoured Switch Pro actually Switch 2 all along?

The Switch 2's main processor has been analysed - and its design is older than you might imagine.
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Remember the discourse surrounding a proposed Switch Pro? Rumours of an upgraded Switch model began as early as 2018, but it wasn't until 2020 that the Pro's attributes including "more computing power and 4K high definition graphics" were reported on by Bloomberg.
Simultaneously, it was understood that the Pro would also feature a seven-inch OLED panel.
Of course, the OLED upgrade happened for the original Switch but the Pro did not.
However, recent coverage of the Switch 2's main processor may provide a partial explanation.
Forensic analysis of a final Switch 2 chip by Geekerwan and Kurnal suggests that the hardware was finalised way back in 2021.
With the benefit of hindsight, it now seems plausible that the Switch Pro was an amalgamation of rumours: a combination of the Switch OLED model and formative work on the console that'll finally hit stores on June 5th this year.

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Even more telling is that both analyses reveal that the chip was "taped out" - basically meaning the design was complete - in 2021.
Geekerwan compares this to Nvidia's GA107 processor - another 8nm product, taped out in 2020 and released in the form of various GPUs (RTX 3050, for example) in 2021.
The implication is that Nintendo had the new Switch 2 processor ready up to four years ago and could conceivably have released a Switch successor in 2022.
Bearing in mind that processors take some time to create, it's very likely that leaks from Nintendo in Japan, or via its partners, could have started in 2020 when the Switch Pro reports began - at the same time as the platform holder was planning its OLED upgrade.
However, it wasn't until June 2021 that noted leaker kopite7kimi named the new processor as T239 and stated that it would sit at the heart of the next Nintendo console.
It seems as though the leaker got wind of the project just as T239 completed development at the taping out stage.
So, the question is why it has taken so long for Switch 2 to arrive, bearing in mind that Nintendo would have had final silicon in 2021.
Being familiar with console design having spoken to console system architects in the past, final silicon does typically arrive a year before a console releases.
Bearing in mind that T239 was ready in 2021, it would have taken years to get to that point.
Maybe an earlier Switch 2 was considered - but of course, plans can change.
At the beginning of the project, one might imagine that Nintendo would still not understand just how long-lived the original Switch would be and the extent to which the Covid pandemic would elevate its sales.
In turn, game development for the older system would continue.
In the meantime, one might imagine that the production cost for the new T239 processor would have decreased - the 8nm process is old technology now, but thanks to Nintendo and Nvidia, the production lines can still continue with a brand new console to sustain them.
The firm didn't release Switch 2 any earlier because there was no business case for doing so: the original model was still wildly popular.
Then there's the fact that development resources were still invested in the existing Switch - the transition period to Switch 2 and the need to build up enough software for a new console would obviously delay the release of the machine.
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Ultimately, the controversy surrounding the make-up of the Switch 2 processor comes from a good place - the desire for the new Nintendo hardware to be the best it can be - but perhaps this idea misses the point.
Developers work with what they're given, often delivering remarkable results.
We were concerned about the Tegra X1 powering the original Switch based on its showing in the Nvidia Shield Android TV micro-console - and yet developers delivered miracles from its relatively meagre capabilities.

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SharpX68K
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Oh boy.
This is gonna be one for the ages...
DC5remy
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lol.
First reply nails it

ConflictResolver
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No they cancelled Pro because of Covid.

Ant_17
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Yes.

tucah
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maybe!

BabyDontHurtMe
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Wouldn't be surprised

YuriLowell
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Yes.

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No they cancelled Pro because of Covid.

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tucah said:
There you have it!
yap
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why not

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RandomlyRandom67
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No they cancelled Pro because of Covid.

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I think the implication being made here is the Switch OLED and Switch 2 rumors collided to form an amalgamation rumor of a "Switch Pro." Switch Pro might have never existed, it was just the fact that a Switch OLED revision was coming while T239 was deep into design phase and presumably taped out in 2021

Homura
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Of course.
Leakers assumed around 2020-2021 all the T239 information was about a Pro version, not realizing Nintendo was just planning the successor all the way back then.
Kouriozan
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Oh I so wished Switch Pro was real, years and years of bad performances and I had enough, can't really fucking wait to get a Switch 2 lmao.
iirc Switch Pro rumors did start to appear around 2020, so it could line up and people mistakenly thinking Switch 2 preps was a Pro model.
Glio
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Sometimes you get a rumor wrong and that's it.

natestellar
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It seems to be the case.

RivalGT
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Probably not related to a switch pro, but DF is likely right.
Why release the switch 2 when switch 1 was selling amazingly well.

Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-was-the-rumoured-switch-pro-actually-switch-2-all-along.1188360/" style="color: #0066cc;">https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-was-the-rumoured-switch-pro-actually-switch-2-all-along.1188360/
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[Digital Foundry] Was the rumoured Switch Pro actually Switch 2 all along?
RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,535 Was the rumoured Switch Pro actually Switch 2 all along? The Switch 2's main processor has been analysed - and its design is older than you might imagine. www.eurogamer.net Remember the discourse surrounding a proposed Switch Pro? Rumours of an upgraded Switch model began as early as 2018, but it wasn't until 2020 that the Pro's attributes including "more computing power and 4K high definition graphics" were reported on by Bloomberg. Simultaneously, it was understood that the Pro would also feature a seven-inch OLED panel. Of course, the OLED upgrade happened for the original Switch but the Pro did not. However, recent coverage of the Switch 2's main processor may provide a partial explanation. Forensic analysis of a final Switch 2 chip by Geekerwan and Kurnal suggests that the hardware was finalised way back in 2021. With the benefit of hindsight, it now seems plausible that the Switch Pro was an amalgamation of rumours: a combination of the Switch OLED model and formative work on the console that'll finally hit stores on June 5th this year. Click to expand... Click to shrink... .... Even more telling is that both analyses reveal that the chip was "taped out" - basically meaning the design was complete - in 2021. Geekerwan compares this to Nvidia's GA107 processor - another 8nm product, taped out in 2020 and released in the form of various GPUs (RTX 3050, for example) in 2021. The implication is that Nintendo had the new Switch 2 processor ready up to four years ago and could conceivably have released a Switch successor in 2022. Bearing in mind that processors take some time to create, it's very likely that leaks from Nintendo in Japan, or via its partners, could have started in 2020 when the Switch Pro reports began - at the same time as the platform holder was planning its OLED upgrade. However, it wasn't until June 2021 that noted leaker kopite7kimi named the new processor as T239 and stated that it would sit at the heart of the next Nintendo console. It seems as though the leaker got wind of the project just as T239 completed development at the taping out stage. So, the question is why it has taken so long for Switch 2 to arrive, bearing in mind that Nintendo would have had final silicon in 2021. Being familiar with console design having spoken to console system architects in the past, final silicon does typically arrive a year before a console releases. Bearing in mind that T239 was ready in 2021, it would have taken years to get to that point. Maybe an earlier Switch 2 was considered - but of course, plans can change. At the beginning of the project, one might imagine that Nintendo would still not understand just how long-lived the original Switch would be and the extent to which the Covid pandemic would elevate its sales. In turn, game development for the older system would continue. In the meantime, one might imagine that the production cost for the new T239 processor would have decreased - the 8nm process is old technology now, but thanks to Nintendo and Nvidia, the production lines can still continue with a brand new console to sustain them. The firm didn't release Switch 2 any earlier because there was no business case for doing so: the original model was still wildly popular. Then there's the fact that development resources were still invested in the existing Switch - the transition period to Switch 2 and the need to build up enough software for a new console would obviously delay the release of the machine. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ultimately, the controversy surrounding the make-up of the Switch 2 processor comes from a good place - the desire for the new Nintendo hardware to be the best it can be - but perhaps this idea misses the point. Developers work with what they're given, often delivering remarkable results. We were concerned about the Tegra X1 powering the original Switch based on its showing in the Nvidia Shield Android TV micro-console - and yet developers delivered miracles from its relatively meagre capabilities. Click to expand... Click to shrink... SharpX68K Member Nov 10, 2017 11,781 Chicagoland Oh boy. This is gonna be one for the ages... DC5remy Member Jan 20, 2018 9,751 Texas lol. First reply nails it ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,726 Midgar No they cancelled Pro because of Covid. Ant_17 Member Oct 28, 2017 2,889 Greece Yes. tucah Member Oct 25, 2017 1,488 maybe! BabyDontHurtMe Member Dec 9, 2018 30,627 New Jersey Wouldn't be surprised YuriLowell Member Oct 26, 2017 4,477 Yes. Jswanko Member Oct 26, 2017 43 ConflictResolver said: No they cancelled Pro because of Covid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ant_17 said: tucah said: There you have it! yap Avenger Oct 25, 2017 10,779 why not OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,535 ConflictResolver said: No they cancelled Pro because of Covid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think the implication being made here is the Switch OLED and Switch 2 rumors collided to form an amalgamation rumor of a "Switch Pro." Switch Pro might have never existed, it was just the fact that a Switch OLED revision was coming while T239 was deep into design phase and presumably taped out in 2021 Homura ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 20, 2019 6,940 Of course. Leakers assumed around 2020-2021 all the T239 information was about a Pro version, not realizing Nintendo was just planning the successor all the way back then. Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,678 Oh I so wished Switch Pro was real, years and years of bad performances and I had enough, can't really fucking wait to get a Switch 2 lmao. iirc Switch Pro rumors did start to appear around 2020, so it could line up and people mistakenly thinking Switch 2 preps was a Pro model. Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,708 Spain Sometimes you get a rumor wrong and that's it. natestellar Member Sep 16, 2018 853 It seems to be the case. RivalGT Member Dec 13, 2017 7,449 Probably not related to a switch pro, but DF is likely right. Why release the switch 2 when switch 1 was selling amazingly well. Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-was-the-rumoured-switch-pro-actually-switch-2-all-along.1188360/ #digital #foundry #was #the #rumoured #switch #pro #actually #all #along

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[Digital Foundry] Was the rumoured Switch Pro actually Switch 2 all along?

RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,535 Was the rumoured Switch Pro actually Switch 2 all along? The Switch 2's main processor has been analysed - and its design is older than you might imagine. www.eurogamer.net Remember the discourse surrounding a proposed Switch Pro? Rumours of an upgraded Switch model began as early as 2018, but it wasn't until 2020 that the Pro's attributes including "more computing power and 4K high definition graphics" were reported on by Bloomberg. Simultaneously, it was understood that the Pro would also feature a seven-inch OLED panel. Of course, the OLED upgrade happened for the original Switch but the Pro did not. However, recent coverage of the Switch 2's main processor may provide a partial explanation. Forensic analysis of a final Switch 2 chip by Geekerwan and Kurnal suggests that the hardware was finalised way back in 2021. With the benefit of hindsight, it now seems plausible that the Switch Pro was an amalgamation of rumours: a combination of the Switch OLED model and formative work on the console that'll finally hit stores on June 5th this year. Click to expand... Click to shrink... .... Even more telling is that both analyses reveal that the chip was "taped out" - basically meaning the design was complete - in 2021. Geekerwan compares this to Nvidia's GA107 processor - another 8nm product, taped out in 2020 and released in the form of various GPUs (RTX 3050, for example) in 2021. The implication is that Nintendo had the new Switch 2 processor ready up to four years ago and could conceivably have released a Switch successor in 2022. Bearing in mind that processors take some time to create, it's very likely that leaks from Nintendo in Japan, or via its partners, could have started in 2020 when the Switch Pro reports began - at the same time as the platform holder was planning its OLED upgrade. However, it wasn't until June 2021 that noted leaker kopite7kimi named the new processor as T239 and stated that it would sit at the heart of the next Nintendo console. It seems as though the leaker got wind of the project just as T239 completed development at the taping out stage. So, the question is why it has taken so long for Switch 2 to arrive, bearing in mind that Nintendo would have had final silicon in 2021. Being familiar with console design having spoken to console system architects in the past, final silicon does typically arrive a year before a console releases. Bearing in mind that T239 was ready in 2021, it would have taken years to get to that point. Maybe an earlier Switch 2 was considered - but of course, plans can change. At the beginning of the project, one might imagine that Nintendo would still not understand just how long-lived the original Switch would be and the extent to which the Covid pandemic would elevate its sales. In turn, game development for the older system would continue. In the meantime, one might imagine that the production cost for the new T239 processor would have decreased - the 8nm process is old technology now, but thanks to Nintendo and Nvidia, the production lines can still continue with a brand new console to sustain them. The firm didn't release Switch 2 any earlier because there was no business case for doing so: the original model was still wildly popular. Then there's the fact that development resources were still invested in the existing Switch - the transition period to Switch 2 and the need to build up enough software for a new console would obviously delay the release of the machine. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ultimately, the controversy surrounding the make-up of the Switch 2 processor comes from a good place - the desire for the new Nintendo hardware to be the best it can be - but perhaps this idea misses the point. Developers work with what they're given, often delivering remarkable results. We were concerned about the Tegra X1 powering the original Switch based on its showing in the Nvidia Shield Android TV micro-console - and yet developers delivered miracles from its relatively meagre capabilities. Click to expand... Click to shrink... SharpX68K Member Nov 10, 2017 11,781 Chicagoland Oh boy. This is gonna be one for the ages... DC5remy Member Jan 20, 2018 9,751 Texas lol. First reply nails it ConflictResolver Member Jan 1, 2024 4,726 Midgar No they cancelled Pro because of Covid. Ant_17 Member Oct 28, 2017 2,889 Greece Yes. tucah Member Oct 25, 2017 1,488 maybe! BabyDontHurtMe Member Dec 9, 2018 30,627 New Jersey Wouldn't be surprised YuriLowell Member Oct 26, 2017 4,477 Yes. Jswanko Member Oct 26, 2017 43 ConflictResolver said: No they cancelled Pro because of Covid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Ant_17 said: tucah said: There you have it! yap Avenger Oct 25, 2017 10,779 why not OP OP RandomlyRandom67 Member Jul 7, 2023 2,535 ConflictResolver said: No they cancelled Pro because of Covid. Click to expand... Click to shrink... I think the implication being made here is the Switch OLED and Switch 2 rumors collided to form an amalgamation rumor of a "Switch Pro." Switch Pro might have never existed, it was just the fact that a Switch OLED revision was coming while T239 was deep into design phase and presumably taped out in 2021 Homura ▲ Legend ▲ Member Aug 20, 2019 6,940 Of course. Leakers assumed around 2020-2021 all the T239 information was about a Pro version, not realizing Nintendo was just planning the successor all the way back then. Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,678 Oh I so wished Switch Pro was real, years and years of bad performances and I had enough, can't really fucking wait to get a Switch 2 lmao. iirc Switch Pro rumors did start to appear around 2020, so it could line up and people mistakenly thinking Switch 2 preps was a Pro model. Glio Member Oct 27, 2017 27,708 Spain Sometimes you get a rumor wrong and that's it. natestellar Member Sep 16, 2018 853 It seems to be the case. RivalGT Member Dec 13, 2017 7,449 Probably not related to a switch pro, but DF is likely right. Why release the switch 2 when switch 1 was selling amazingly well.

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25 years in, Havok unveils royalty-free pricing for budgets up to $20 million
For 25 years the logo of middleware tech company Havok has graced the loading screens of big-budget games from across the industry.
Its plugins drive the ragdoll and particle physics of games like Helldivers 2, its cloth simulation technology makes the capes of Destiny 2 flap in the wind, and its pathfinding tech helps the monstrosities of Elden Ring wander the The Lands Between.Despite how far its name has traveled, the company's kept a low profile in that time, letting its clients take the bulk of the credit for the boundary-pushing physics.
But economic shifts in the industry seemed to drive the company to surface at the 2025 Game Developers Conference.At the event, Havok announced a new pricing model for developers working on budgets under $20 million.
The company's normally high-end offerings haven't been affordable for many developers, and while they aren't ready to support low budget indies just yet, general manager David Cochrane told Game Developer that the company now wants to work with studios with "tens" of employees, not necessarily "hundreds."Developers on those lower budgets can now license tools like Havok Physics and Havok Navigation for the low low price of $50,000 per Havok product.
There's no royalty fee, and studios can also use plug-in versions of the tools for Unreal Engine.Related:To see a company known for selling premium tools for big-budget games open up to the lower-tier market is quite a phenomenon—especially in an era where the biggest hits of 2025 include Clair Obscure: Expedition 33 and RuneScape Dragonwilds.
Small games are becoming bigger hits—and to hear Cochrane tell it, Havok seems to be following the trend.Havok is the rare middleware company to last 25 yearsCochrane explained to Game Developer that Havok began planning the new pricing scheme after studying how many mid-sized studios were planning more ambitious games using Unreal Engine.
Havok is a "good fit" for Unreal he said, and to see developers embracing the kinds of solutions Havok offers—but not being able to afford its offerings—began to shift their thinking.It's the kind of adaptation Havok has made repeatedly over the last 25 years, following what Cochrane described as the "creativity" of developers.
But it's not the kind of creativity you might think of at first glance.
Cochrane praised the gameplay advancements and new kinds of ideas that emerged from the last two-and-a-half decades, but the company's primary focus has been the creativity of technical problem-solving the industry has produced.
"The industry has always found creative ways to deliver games that make the most of the of their chosen platform," he said, alluding to the ways developers adapt to online networking or "diversity of hardware." Most recently, he said Havok has paid close attention to the rise of powerful handheld devices like the Nintendo Switch and Steam Deck—and how developers are making "new kinds of games" suited for those devices.Related:But not every trend Havok's been around for has stuck.
He recalled the rise of early Facebook games around 2009-2012.
If that trend had stayed around, Havok would have been in a tough spot since Facebook games don't need expensive physics or cloth simulation technology.
"There was almost a sense of 'was the whole industry gonna have to pivot hard toward this?'" he recalled.It didn't.
"There can be a new style of game that comes along—whether that's a live service, or whether it's a social game, or whatever—when MAU numbers are high, the whole industry will take notice, but the game industry always tends to drift back toward an equilibrium which involves many different types of games across many different platforms."So even with the surge of fast-followers for UGC games like Roblox and Minecraft—few of which need Havok's high-end physics and cloth technology—Cochrane said there will still be an audience for games gushing with plentiful particles.Related:The next space for innovation: AI navigationLike everyone else at GDC, Cochrane had a lot to say about AI—but not the same kind of AI that had everyone else aflutter.Cochrane explained that Havok's most overlooked product its its AI navigation tech—but it's also one the most quietly groundbreaking pieces in the company's portfolio.
"What we're really seeing now is an increased diversity in the the scale of different characters that [players] come across in a game," he said.
Games have had enormous enemies for years, but newer pathfinding tech allows gigantic creatures to share space with smaller in-game characters instead of having their own dedicated areas.Image via Havok.He referenced FromSoftware's Elden Ring here, a game where players can be fighting twisted knights in ruins one minute, then be ambushed by a dragon the next, often in the same area.
It's not the only game in 2025 we've seen playing with new ideas of what NPCs should be doing in a game.
Just hours later the folks at Bloober Team showed us the ambitious combat system of Cronos: The New Dawn, and earlier this year we were surprised by how the massive monsters of Eternal Strands were able to smoothly navigate through the game's open environments.He called this evolution a "common theme" across the industry—one that makes for a fascinating pairing with Havok's decision to chase smaller studios.
"The reality is...the sizes of worlds that people are dealing with at the moment are stressing some of the historic techniques that would have been used to build [methods] for navigation," he said.
"Some of the things we're doing is showing ways in which we can have very memory-efficient representations for navigation.
We can allow characters to navigate across large worlds that might include streamed geometry in and out.""Now you won't actually hold the whole game world in memory at one point in time, but you still want NPCs that can actually navigate naturally through those larger environments.
That's an area we're investing a lot in."Game Developer and GDC are sibling organizations under Informa Tech.
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25 years in, Havok unveils royalty-free pricing for budgets up to $20 million
For 25 years the logo of middleware tech company Havok has graced the loading screens of big-budget games from across the industry. Its plugins drive the ragdoll and particle physics of games like Helldivers 2, its cloth simulation technology makes the capes of Destiny 2 flap in the wind, and its pathfinding tech helps the monstrosities of Elden Ring wander the The Lands Between.Despite how far its name has traveled, the company's kept a low profile in that time, letting its clients take the bulk of the credit for the boundary-pushing physics. But economic shifts in the industry seemed to drive the company to surface at the 2025 Game Developers Conference.At the event, Havok announced a new pricing model for developers working on budgets under $20 million. The company's normally high-end offerings haven't been affordable for many developers, and while they aren't ready to support low budget indies just yet, general manager David Cochrane told Game Developer that the company now wants to work with studios with "tens" of employees, not necessarily "hundreds."Developers on those lower budgets can now license tools like Havok Physics and Havok Navigation for the low low price of $50,000 per Havok product. There's no royalty fee, and studios can also use plug-in versions of the tools for Unreal Engine.Related:To see a company known for selling premium tools for big-budget games open up to the lower-tier market is quite a phenomenon—especially in an era where the biggest hits of 2025 include Clair Obscure: Expedition 33 and RuneScape Dragonwilds. Small games are becoming bigger hits—and to hear Cochrane tell it, Havok seems to be following the trend.Havok is the rare middleware company to last 25 yearsCochrane explained to Game Developer that Havok began planning the new pricing scheme after studying how many mid-sized studios were planning more ambitious games using Unreal Engine. Havok is a "good fit" for Unreal he said, and to see developers embracing the kinds of solutions Havok offers—but not being able to afford its offerings—began to shift their thinking.It's the kind of adaptation Havok has made repeatedly over the last 25 years, following what Cochrane described as the "creativity" of developers. But it's not the kind of creativity you might think of at first glance. Cochrane praised the gameplay advancements and new kinds of ideas that emerged from the last two-and-a-half decades, but the company's primary focus has been the creativity of technical problem-solving the industry has produced. "The industry has always found creative ways to deliver games that make the most of the of their chosen platform," he said, alluding to the ways developers adapt to online networking or "diversity of hardware." Most recently, he said Havok has paid close attention to the rise of powerful handheld devices like the Nintendo Switch and Steam Deck—and how developers are making "new kinds of games" suited for those devices.Related:But not every trend Havok's been around for has stuck. He recalled the rise of early Facebook games around 2009-2012. If that trend had stayed around, Havok would have been in a tough spot since Facebook games don't need expensive physics or cloth simulation technology. "There was almost a sense of 'was the whole industry gonna have to pivot hard toward this?'" he recalled.It didn't. "There can be a new style of game that comes along—whether that's a live service, or whether it's a social game, or whatever—when MAU numbers are high, the whole industry will take notice, but the game industry always tends to drift back toward an equilibrium which involves many different types of games across many different platforms."So even with the surge of fast-followers for UGC games like Roblox and Minecraft—few of which need Havok's high-end physics and cloth technology—Cochrane said there will still be an audience for games gushing with plentiful particles.Related:The next space for innovation: AI navigationLike everyone else at GDC, Cochrane had a lot to say about AI—but not the same kind of AI that had everyone else aflutter.Cochrane explained that Havok's most overlooked product its its AI navigation tech—but it's also one the most quietly groundbreaking pieces in the company's portfolio. "What we're really seeing now is an increased diversity in the the scale of different characters that [players] come across in a game," he said. Games have had enormous enemies for years, but newer pathfinding tech allows gigantic creatures to share space with smaller in-game characters instead of having their own dedicated areas.Image via Havok.He referenced FromSoftware's Elden Ring here, a game where players can be fighting twisted knights in ruins one minute, then be ambushed by a dragon the next, often in the same area. It's not the only game in 2025 we've seen playing with new ideas of what NPCs should be doing in a game. Just hours later the folks at Bloober Team showed us the ambitious combat system of Cronos: The New Dawn, and earlier this year we were surprised by how the massive monsters of Eternal Strands were able to smoothly navigate through the game's open environments.He called this evolution a "common theme" across the industry—one that makes for a fascinating pairing with Havok's decision to chase smaller studios. "The reality is...the sizes of worlds that people are dealing with at the moment are stressing some of the historic techniques that would have been used to build [methods] for navigation," he said. "Some of the things we're doing is showing ways in which we can have very memory-efficient representations for navigation. We can allow characters to navigate across large worlds that might include streamed geometry in and out.""Now you won't actually hold the whole game world in memory at one point in time, but you still want NPCs that can actually navigate naturally through those larger environments. That's an area we're investing a lot in."Game Developer and GDC are sibling organizations under Informa Tech. Source: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/programming/25-years-in-havok-unveils-royalty-free-pricing-for-budgets-up-to-20-million #years #havok #unveils #royaltyfree #pricing #for #budgets #million

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25 years in, Havok unveils royalty-free pricing for budgets up to $20 million

For 25 years the logo of middleware tech company Havok has graced the loading screens of big-budget games from across the industry. Its plugins drive the ragdoll and particle physics of games like Helldivers 2, its cloth simulation technology makes the capes of Destiny 2 flap in the wind, and its pathfinding tech helps the monstrosities of Elden Ring wander the The Lands Between.Despite how far its name has traveled, the company's kept a low profile in that time, letting its clients take the bulk of the credit for the boundary-pushing physics. But economic shifts in the industry seemed to drive the company to surface at the 2025 Game Developers Conference.At the event, Havok announced a new pricing model for developers working on budgets under $20 million. The company's normally high-end offerings haven't been affordable for many developers, and while they aren't ready to support low budget indies just yet, general manager David Cochrane told Game Developer that the company now wants to work with studios with "tens" of employees, not necessarily "hundreds."Developers on those lower budgets can now license tools like Havok Physics and Havok Navigation for the low low price of $50,000 per Havok product. There's no royalty fee, and studios can also use plug-in versions of the tools for Unreal Engine.Related:To see a company known for selling premium tools for big-budget games open up to the lower-tier market is quite a phenomenon—especially in an era where the biggest hits of 2025 include Clair Obscure: Expedition 33 and RuneScape Dragonwilds. Small games are becoming bigger hits—and to hear Cochrane tell it, Havok seems to be following the trend.Havok is the rare middleware company to last 25 yearsCochrane explained to Game Developer that Havok began planning the new pricing scheme after studying how many mid-sized studios were planning more ambitious games using Unreal Engine. Havok is a "good fit" for Unreal he said, and to see developers embracing the kinds of solutions Havok offers—but not being able to afford its offerings—began to shift their thinking.It's the kind of adaptation Havok has made repeatedly over the last 25 years, following what Cochrane described as the "creativity" of developers. But it's not the kind of creativity you might think of at first glance. Cochrane praised the gameplay advancements and new kinds of ideas that emerged from the last two-and-a-half decades, but the company's primary focus has been the creativity of technical problem-solving the industry has produced. "The industry has always found creative ways to deliver games that make the most of the of their chosen platform," he said, alluding to the ways developers adapt to online networking or "diversity of hardware." Most recently, he said Havok has paid close attention to the rise of powerful handheld devices like the Nintendo Switch and Steam Deck—and how developers are making "new kinds of games" suited for those devices.Related:But not every trend Havok's been around for has stuck. He recalled the rise of early Facebook games around 2009-2012. If that trend had stayed around, Havok would have been in a tough spot since Facebook games don't need expensive physics or cloth simulation technology. "There was almost a sense of 'was the whole industry gonna have to pivot hard toward this?'" he recalled.It didn't. "There can be a new style of game that comes along—whether that's a live service, or whether it's a social game, or whatever—when MAU numbers are high, the whole industry will take notice, but the game industry always tends to drift back toward an equilibrium which involves many different types of games across many different platforms."So even with the surge of fast-followers for UGC games like Roblox and Minecraft—few of which need Havok's high-end physics and cloth technology—Cochrane said there will still be an audience for games gushing with plentiful particles.Related:The next space for innovation: AI navigationLike everyone else at GDC, Cochrane had a lot to say about AI—but not the same kind of AI that had everyone else aflutter.Cochrane explained that Havok's most overlooked product its its AI navigation tech—but it's also one the most quietly groundbreaking pieces in the company's portfolio. "What we're really seeing now is an increased diversity in the the scale of different characters that [players] come across in a game," he said. Games have had enormous enemies for years, but newer pathfinding tech allows gigantic creatures to share space with smaller in-game characters instead of having their own dedicated areas.Image via Havok.He referenced FromSoftware's Elden Ring here, a game where players can be fighting twisted knights in ruins one minute, then be ambushed by a dragon the next, often in the same area. It's not the only game in 2025 we've seen playing with new ideas of what NPCs should be doing in a game. Just hours later the folks at Bloober Team showed us the ambitious combat system of Cronos: The New Dawn, and earlier this year we were surprised by how the massive monsters of Eternal Strands were able to smoothly navigate through the game's open environments.He called this evolution a "common theme" across the industry—one that makes for a fascinating pairing with Havok's decision to chase smaller studios. "The reality is...the sizes of worlds that people are dealing with at the moment are stressing some of the historic techniques that would have been used to build [methods] for navigation," he said. "Some of the things we're doing is showing ways in which we can have very memory-efficient representations for navigation. We can allow characters to navigate across large worlds that might include streamed geometry in and out.""Now you won't actually hold the whole game world in memory at one point in time, but you still want NPCs that can actually navigate naturally through those larger environments. That's an area we're investing a lot in."Game Developer and GDC are sibling organizations under Informa Tech.

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Fallout renewed for season 3 but has ‘season 6 type of endpoint’
Get ready for more Wasteland adventures because Prime Video’s Fallout has already been renewed for season 3. The news arrives months before the show’s December season 2 premiere, which is set to explore New Vegas. Prime Video said in a press release on Monday, that season 2 of Fallout “will pick up in the aftermath of Season One’s epic finale and take audiences along for a journey through the wasteland of the Mojave to the post-apocalyptic city of New Vegas.” So, to all the Fallout: New Vegas purists out there — worry not, Prime Video sees you. As for season 3, no further details have been shared regarding where the story will take viewers or what characters from the video game universe will make their debut. While we wait for season 2 and pray that season 3 maintains the series’ high bar, there appear to be plans to keep this series going well beyond that. During an interview at Comic Con Liverpool, Aaron Moten, the actor who plays former Brotherhood of Steel soldier Maximus, opened up about where Lucy and friends could take us. “When I signed on to do the series, we would have a starting point and they gave me the endpoint,” Moten said. “And that endpoint hasn’t changed. But it is season 5, [season] 6 type of endpoint. We’ve always known that we were gonna take our time with the development of the characters.” Now, let’s be real, Fallout has to nail seasons 2 and 3 before we can even think about seasons 5 or 6. And while season 1 was met with critical acclaim and received multiple Emmy nominations, there could be a timeline where the show goes completely off the rails. Nonetheless, it’s promising to see that producers Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, showrunners Graham Wagner and Geneva Robertson-Dworet, and Amazon MGM Studios have a plan with a clear end goal in mind. Fallout debuted on Prime Video in April 2024. The live-action adaption of the popular, post-apocalyptic video game franchise introduces fans to a new Vault Dweller named Lucy MacLean. The series follows Lucy as she embarks on a journey through the Wasteland, a new world ravaged by war and hubris, as she attempts to find her father Hank. Season 1 ended on an Easter egg cliffhanger; the final shot showed off the skyline of the iconic New Vegas settlement. As the camera pans out, viewers are treated to a shot of the Mojave Desert and a skull belonging to one of our best friends from the Fallout franchise: the Deathclaw. Yeah, season 2 is gearing up to be something special. Fallout season 2 is set to premiere in December 2025. Fallout season 1 is available now, streaming only on Prime Video. Achievement unlocked! Fallout Season 2 has wrapped production. pic.twitter.com/cbLNCvLLRB— FALLOUT⚡️ (@falloutonprime) May 8, 2025
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Get ready for more Wasteland adventures because Prime Video’s Fallout has already been renewed for season 3. The news arrives months before the show’s December season 2 premiere, which is set to explore New Vegas. Prime Video said in a press release on Monday, that season 2 of Fallout “will pick up in the aftermath of Season One’s epic finale and take audiences along for a journey through the wasteland of the Mojave to the post-apocalyptic city of New Vegas.” So, to all the Fallout: New Vegas purists out there — worry not, Prime Video sees you. As for season 3, no further details have been shared regarding where the story will take viewers or what characters from the video game universe will make their debut. While we wait for season 2 and pray that season 3 maintains the series’ high bar, there appear to be plans to keep this series going well beyond that. During an interview at Comic Con Liverpool, Aaron Moten, the actor who plays former Brotherhood of Steel soldier Maximus, opened up about where Lucy and friends could take us. “When I signed on to do the series, we would have a starting point and they gave me the endpoint,” Moten said. “And that endpoint hasn’t changed. But it is season 5, [season] 6 type of endpoint. We’ve always known that we were gonna take our time with the development of the characters.” Now, let’s be real, Fallout has to nail seasons 2 and 3 before we can even think about seasons 5 or 6. And while season 1 was met with critical acclaim and received multiple Emmy nominations, there could be a timeline where the show goes completely off the rails. Nonetheless, it’s promising to see that producers Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, showrunners Graham Wagner and Geneva Robertson-Dworet, and Amazon MGM Studios have a plan with a clear end goal in mind. Fallout debuted on Prime Video in April 2024. The live-action adaption of the popular, post-apocalyptic video game franchise introduces fans to a new Vault Dweller named Lucy MacLean. The series follows Lucy as she embarks on a journey through the Wasteland, a new world ravaged by war and hubris, as she attempts to find her father Hank. Season 1 ended on an Easter egg cliffhanger; the final shot showed off the skyline of the iconic New Vegas settlement. As the camera pans out, viewers are treated to a shot of the Mojave Desert and a skull belonging to one of our best friends from the Fallout franchise: the Deathclaw. Yeah, season 2 is gearing up to be something special. Fallout season 2 is set to premiere in December 2025. Fallout season 1 is available now, streaming only on Prime Video. Achievement unlocked! Fallout Season 2 has wrapped production. pic.twitter.com/cbLNCvLLRB— FALLOUT⚡️ (@falloutonprime) May 8, 2025
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Get ready for more Wasteland adventures because Prime Video’s Fallout has already been renewed for season 3. The news arrives months before the show’s December season 2 premiere, which is set to explore New Vegas. Prime Video said in a press release on Monday, that season 2 of Fallout “will pick up in the aftermath of Season One’s epic finale and take audiences along for a journey through the wasteland of the Mojave to the post-apocalyptic city of New Vegas.” So, to all the Fallout: New Vegas purists out there — worry not, Prime Video sees you. As for season 3, no further details have been shared regarding where the story will take viewers or what characters from the video game universe will make their debut. While we wait for season 2 and pray that season 3 maintains the series’ high bar, there appear to be plans to keep this series going well beyond that. During an interview at Comic Con Liverpool, Aaron Moten, the actor who plays former Brotherhood of Steel soldier Maximus, opened up about where Lucy and friends could take us. “When I signed on to do the series, we would have a starting point and they gave me the endpoint,” Moten said. “And that endpoint hasn’t changed. But it is season 5, [season] 6 type of endpoint. We’ve always known that we were gonna take our time with the development of the characters.” Now, let’s be real, Fallout has to nail seasons 2 and 3 before we can even think about seasons 5 or 6. And while season 1 was met with critical acclaim and received multiple Emmy nominations, there could be a timeline where the show goes completely off the rails. Nonetheless, it’s promising to see that producers Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, showrunners Graham Wagner and Geneva Robertson-Dworet, and Amazon MGM Studios have a plan with a clear end goal in mind. Fallout debuted on Prime Video in April 2024. The live-action adaption of the popular, post-apocalyptic video game franchise introduces fans to a new Vault Dweller named Lucy MacLean. The series follows Lucy as she embarks on a journey through the Wasteland, a new world ravaged by war and hubris, as she attempts to find her father Hank. Season 1 ended on an Easter egg cliffhanger; the final shot showed off the skyline of the iconic New Vegas settlement. As the camera pans out, viewers are treated to a shot of the Mojave Desert and a skull belonging to one of our best friends from the Fallout franchise: the Deathclaw. Yeah, season 2 is gearing up to be something special. Fallout season 2 is set to premiere in December 2025. Fallout season 1 is available now, streaming only on Prime Video. Achievement unlocked! Fallout Season 2 has wrapped production. pic.twitter.com/cbLNCvLLRB— FALLOUT⚡️ (@falloutonprime) May 8, 2025

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#333;">Qatar's luxury jet donation poses significant security risks, experts say. It poses a "counterintelligence nightmare," a former CIA field operative said.

The Trump administration's plan to accept a luxury jet donated by the Qatari government to use as Air Force One raises significant security concerns, intelligence experts and government officials say, as President Donald Trump said it would be "stupid" not to accept a free plane.Trump on Monday defended the administration's plans to receive a luxury jet donated by the Qatari government during remarks at the White House, calling the donation a "very nice gesture.""I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer.
I mean, I could be a stupid person and say, 'No, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane.' But it was, I thought it was a great gesture," he said.MORE: Trump admin live updatesRhode Island Sen.
Jack Reed, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, slammed the move, arguing that using the plane as Air Force One would "pose immense counterintelligence risks by granting a foreign nation potential access to sensitive systems and communications.""This reckless disregard for national security and diplomatic propriety signals a dangerous willingness to barter American interests for personal gain," Reed said in a statement Monday.
"It is an affront to the office of the presidency and a betrayal of the trust placed in any U.S.
leader to safeguard the nation's sovereignty."Air Force One a 'high-value target'Air Force One sits on the tarmac, May 12, 2025, at Joint Base Andrews, Maryland.Win McNamee/Getty ImagesThe primary aircraft used in the current Air Force One fleet includes two aging Boeing 747-200 jumbo jets that have been operational since 1990.
Despite flying for more than 35 years, the current pair of Air Force One jets are considered some of the safest and secure aircraft in the world.Many of the security features on the plane remain classified.
It has anti-missile defenses or countermeasure systems to protect against surface-to-air and air-to-air missiles, and the communication devices can also withstand the pulse of a nuclear blast.
It is also outfitted with sophisticated communications capability to allow the president to securely run the country from the plane and protect him from cyberattacks."It's designed to transport the president in a safe way and be able to withstand physical attacks, but to also ensure that the president maintains communication with military, his cabinet, other government leaders in a safe and secure manner," said John Cohen, an ABC News contributor and former acting Homeland Security official.
"Any building or vehicle or airplane that the president is located is a high-value target for foreign intelligence services who want to gather as much information about the president."Air Force One can also remain in the air for several days due to its ability to refuel in midair.
The plane also houses a small medical facility where doctors could perform surgery if needed.All of these systems would likely need to be installed on the Boeing 747-8 that Trump would receive as a gift from Qatar.MORE: Trump defends Qatar jumbo jet offer, says it would be 'stupid' to turn away free planeA jet donated by Qatar would also be a "counterintelligence nightmare," ABC News contributor Darrell Blocker, a former CIA field operative, said."If you go back to almost anything that is given by a foreign government, there are regulations and restrictions and guidelines for ensuring that they're not being bugged, and a plane would be an absolute nightmare to be able to confirm that it's not," Blocker told ABC News Live on Monday.
"From an intelligence perspective, it's not the brightest move."Blocker cited that when the U.S.
embassy was being built in Moscow in the 1980s, the U.S.
had to "take it down to its bare bones" because the Russians "put bugs through every room, every facility.""I think the people of Troy, when they accepted that horse, regretted it after the fact also," he said.The complexity and time needed to retrofit and inspect the plane raise questions on cost and a timeline."Even under the best of circumstances, it's going to take a significant effort for the military to be satisfied that the aircraft is constructed safely, that it's not compromised from the standpoint of intelligence collection capabilities being planted on it, and that it is built in a way that it will be able to assimilate the sensitive communications and countermeasure capabilities that are that are present on any plane that's Air Force One," Cohen said.
"To be done right, it's not going to happen quickly.""In order to adequately ensure that this airplane -- which was operated by a foreign government that happens to have a relationship with Iran and China and Russia -- in order to ensure that that plane has not had collection capabilities introduced into it when it was constructed, they're gonna have to basically tear it down to the airframe," he added.White House working on 'legal details'Both the U.S.
Air Force and the Department of Defense referred questions to the White House when asked about the possible transfer of the Qatari-owned Boeing 747 to the Department of Defense."The plane will be donated to the Department of Defense, and as with any foreign gift given to the United States Government, all proper safety and security protocols will be followed," White House spokesperson Anna Kelly told ABC News.House Speaker Mike Johnson said Monday he would not comment on Trump preparing to receive the jet from Qatar because he hasn't seen the "details."The White House is working on the "legal details" of the Qatari government's donation to the Defense Department, press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Monday in an appearance on Fox News."But, of course, any donation to this government is always done in full compliance with the law.
And we commit ourselves to the utmost transparency and we will continue to do that," Leavitt added.President Donald Trump boards Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews, Md., on his way to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, May 12, 2025.Manuel Balce Ceneta/APTrump said during remarks at the White House on Monday that he doesn't plan to use the plane after he leaves office.
Pressed by ABC News Senior Political Correspondent Rachel Scott on what he would say to people who view the luxury plane as a personal gift to him, Trump said it was not a gift to him but "a gift to the Department of Defense."Sources familiar with the proposed arrangement told ABC News that the plane would be a gift that is to be available for use by Trump as the new Air Force One until shortly before he leaves office, at which time ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Trump presidential library foundation.If a private contractor were able to complete the modifications needed to the donated plane before the end of Trump's presidency, many of the systems installed would then need to be removed should the Trump presidential library foundation take possession of the plane upon Trump leaving office due to the sensitive nature of the technology.Ultimately, Cohen said he suspects that members of the intelligence community and the military will assess the risk to national security and "the level of effort to minimize the risk to national security.""If they're doing their job, the president's national security team will explain to him the level of risk that exists if a foreign intelligence service were able to introduce collection capabilities that could intercept face-to-face communications on the plane, electronic communications coming from the plane," Cohen said.
"They should also be explaining to him the level of effort that it will involve in order for that risk to be mitigated.
And with that information, he can then make an informed decision on whether and under what conditions to accept the airplane."

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Qatar's luxury jet donation poses significant security risks, experts say. It poses a "counterintelligence nightmare," a former CIA field operative said.

The Trump administration's plan to accept a luxury jet donated by the Qatari government to use as Air Force One raises significant security concerns, intelligence experts and government officials say, as President Donald Trump said it would be "stupid" not to accept a free plane.Trump on Monday defended the administration's plans to receive a luxury jet donated by the Qatari government during remarks at the White House, calling the donation a "very nice gesture.""I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer. I mean, I could be a stupid person and say, 'No, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane.' But it was, I thought it was a great gesture," he said.MORE: Trump admin live updatesRhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, slammed the move, arguing that using the plane as Air Force One would "pose immense counterintelligence risks by granting a foreign nation potential access to sensitive systems and communications.""This reckless disregard for national security and diplomatic propriety signals a dangerous willingness to barter American interests for personal gain," Reed said in a statement Monday. "It is an affront to the office of the presidency and a betrayal of the trust placed in any U.S. leader to safeguard the nation's sovereignty."Air Force One a 'high-value target'Air Force One sits on the tarmac, May 12, 2025, at Joint Base Andrews, Maryland.Win McNamee/Getty ImagesThe primary aircraft used in the current Air Force One fleet includes two aging Boeing 747-200 jumbo jets that have been operational since 1990. Despite flying for more than 35 years, the current pair of Air Force One jets are considered some of the safest and secure aircraft in the world.Many of the security features on the plane remain classified. It has anti-missile defenses or countermeasure systems to protect against surface-to-air and air-to-air missiles, and the communication devices can also withstand the pulse of a nuclear blast. It is also outfitted with sophisticated communications capability to allow the president to securely run the country from the plane and protect him from cyberattacks."It's designed to transport the president in a safe way and be able to withstand physical attacks, but to also ensure that the president maintains communication with military, his cabinet, other government leaders in a safe and secure manner," said John Cohen, an ABC News contributor and former acting Homeland Security official. "Any building or vehicle or airplane that the president is located is a high-value target for foreign intelligence services who want to gather as much information about the president."Air Force One can also remain in the air for several days due to its ability to refuel in midair. The plane also houses a small medical facility where doctors could perform surgery if needed.All of these systems would likely need to be installed on the Boeing 747-8 that Trump would receive as a gift from Qatar.MORE: Trump defends Qatar jumbo jet offer, says it would be 'stupid' to turn away free planeA jet donated by Qatar would also be a "counterintelligence nightmare," ABC News contributor Darrell Blocker, a former CIA field operative, said."If you go back to almost anything that is given by a foreign government, there are regulations and restrictions and guidelines for ensuring that they're not being bugged, and a plane would be an absolute nightmare to be able to confirm that it's not," Blocker told ABC News Live on Monday. "From an intelligence perspective, it's not the brightest move."Blocker cited that when the U.S. embassy was being built in Moscow in the 1980s, the U.S. had to "take it down to its bare bones" because the Russians "put bugs through every room, every facility.""I think the people of Troy, when they accepted that horse, regretted it after the fact also," he said.The complexity and time needed to retrofit and inspect the plane raise questions on cost and a timeline."Even under the best of circumstances, it's going to take a significant effort for the military to be satisfied that the aircraft is constructed safely, that it's not compromised from the standpoint of intelligence collection capabilities being planted on it, and that it is built in a way that it will be able to assimilate the sensitive communications and countermeasure capabilities that are that are present on any plane that's Air Force One," Cohen said. "To be done right, it's not going to happen quickly.""In order to adequately ensure that this airplane -- which was operated by a foreign government that happens to have a relationship with Iran and China and Russia -- in order to ensure that that plane has not had collection capabilities introduced into it when it was constructed, they're gonna have to basically tear it down to the airframe," he added.White House working on 'legal details'Both the U.S. Air Force and the Department of Defense referred questions to the White House when asked about the possible transfer of the Qatari-owned Boeing 747 to the Department of Defense."The plane will be donated to the Department of Defense, and as with any foreign gift given to the United States Government, all proper safety and security protocols will be followed," White House spokesperson Anna Kelly told ABC News.House Speaker Mike Johnson said Monday he would not comment on Trump preparing to receive the jet from Qatar because he hasn't seen the "details."The White House is working on the "legal details" of the Qatari government's donation to the Defense Department, press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Monday in an appearance on Fox News."But, of course, any donation to this government is always done in full compliance with the law. And we commit ourselves to the utmost transparency and we will continue to do that," Leavitt added.President Donald Trump boards Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews, Md., on his way to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, May 12, 2025.Manuel Balce Ceneta/APTrump said during remarks at the White House on Monday that he doesn't plan to use the plane after he leaves office. Pressed by ABC News Senior Political Correspondent Rachel Scott on what he would say to people who view the luxury plane as a personal gift to him, Trump said it was not a gift to him but "a gift to the Department of Defense."Sources familiar with the proposed arrangement told ABC News that the plane would be a gift that is to be available for use by Trump as the new Air Force One until shortly before he leaves office, at which time ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Trump presidential library foundation.If a private contractor were able to complete the modifications needed to the donated plane before the end of Trump's presidency, many of the systems installed would then need to be removed should the Trump presidential library foundation take possession of the plane upon Trump leaving office due to the sensitive nature of the technology.Ultimately, Cohen said he suspects that members of the intelligence community and the military will assess the risk to national security and "the level of effort to minimize the risk to national security.""If they're doing their job, the president's national security team will explain to him the level of risk that exists if a foreign intelligence service were able to introduce collection capabilities that could intercept face-to-face communications on the plane, electronic communications coming from the plane," Cohen said. "They should also be explaining to him the level of effort that it will involve in order for that risk to be mitigated. And with that information, he can then make an informed decision on whether and under what conditions to accept the airplane."

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Qatar's luxury jet donation poses significant security risks, experts say. It poses a "counterintelligence nightmare," a former CIA field operative said.

The Trump administration's plan to accept a luxury jet donated by the Qatari government to use as Air Force One raises significant security concerns, intelligence experts and government officials say, as President Donald Trump said it would be "stupid" not to accept a free plane.Trump on Monday defended the administration's plans to receive a luxury jet donated by the Qatari government during remarks at the White House, calling the donation a "very nice gesture.""I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer. I mean, I could be a stupid person and say, 'No, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane.' But it was, I thought it was a great gesture," he said.MORE: Trump admin live updatesRhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, slammed the move, arguing that using the plane as Air Force One would "pose immense counterintelligence risks by granting a foreign nation potential access to sensitive systems and communications.""This reckless disregard for national security and diplomatic propriety signals a dangerous willingness to barter American interests for personal gain," Reed said in a statement Monday. "It is an affront to the office of the presidency and a betrayal of the trust placed in any U.S. leader to safeguard the nation's sovereignty."Air Force One a 'high-value target'Air Force One sits on the tarmac, May 12, 2025, at Joint Base Andrews, Maryland.Win McNamee/Getty ImagesThe primary aircraft used in the current Air Force One fleet includes two aging Boeing 747-200 jumbo jets that have been operational since 1990. Despite flying for more than 35 years, the current pair of Air Force One jets are considered some of the safest and secure aircraft in the world.Many of the security features on the plane remain classified. It has anti-missile defenses or countermeasure systems to protect against surface-to-air and air-to-air missiles, and the communication devices can also withstand the pulse of a nuclear blast. It is also outfitted with sophisticated communications capability to allow the president to securely run the country from the plane and protect him from cyberattacks."It's designed to transport the president in a safe way and be able to withstand physical attacks, but to also ensure that the president maintains communication with military, his cabinet, other government leaders in a safe and secure manner," said John Cohen, an ABC News contributor and former acting Homeland Security official. "Any building or vehicle or airplane that the president is located is a high-value target for foreign intelligence services who want to gather as much information about the president."Air Force One can also remain in the air for several days due to its ability to refuel in midair. The plane also houses a small medical facility where doctors could perform surgery if needed.All of these systems would likely need to be installed on the Boeing 747-8 that Trump would receive as a gift from Qatar.MORE: Trump defends Qatar jumbo jet offer, says it would be 'stupid' to turn away free planeA jet donated by Qatar would also be a "counterintelligence nightmare," ABC News contributor Darrell Blocker, a former CIA field operative, said."If you go back to almost anything that is given by a foreign government, there are regulations and restrictions and guidelines for ensuring that they're not being bugged, and a plane would be an absolute nightmare to be able to confirm that it's not," Blocker told ABC News Live on Monday. "From an intelligence perspective, it's not the brightest move."Blocker cited that when the U.S. embassy was being built in Moscow in the 1980s, the U.S. had to "take it down to its bare bones" because the Russians "put bugs through every room, every facility.""I think the people of Troy, when they accepted that horse, regretted it after the fact also," he said.The complexity and time needed to retrofit and inspect the plane raise questions on cost and a timeline."Even under the best of circumstances, it's going to take a significant effort for the military to be satisfied that the aircraft is constructed safely, that it's not compromised from the standpoint of intelligence collection capabilities being planted on it, and that it is built in a way that it will be able to assimilate the sensitive communications and countermeasure capabilities that are that are present on any plane that's Air Force One," Cohen said. "To be done right, it's not going to happen quickly.""In order to adequately ensure that this airplane -- which was operated by a foreign government that happens to have a relationship with Iran and China and Russia -- in order to ensure that that plane has not had collection capabilities introduced into it when it was constructed, they're gonna have to basically tear it down to the airframe," he added.White House working on 'legal details'Both the U.S. Air Force and the Department of Defense referred questions to the White House when asked about the possible transfer of the Qatari-owned Boeing 747 to the Department of Defense."The plane will be donated to the Department of Defense, and as with any foreign gift given to the United States Government, all proper safety and security protocols will be followed," White House spokesperson Anna Kelly told ABC News.House Speaker Mike Johnson said Monday he would not comment on Trump preparing to receive the jet from Qatar because he hasn't seen the "details."The White House is working on the "legal details" of the Qatari government's donation to the Defense Department, press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Monday in an appearance on Fox News."But, of course, any donation to this government is always done in full compliance with the law. And we commit ourselves to the utmost transparency and we will continue to do that," Leavitt added.President Donald Trump boards Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews, Md., on his way to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, May 12, 2025.Manuel Balce Ceneta/APTrump said during remarks at the White House on Monday that he doesn't plan to use the plane after he leaves office. Pressed by ABC News Senior Political Correspondent Rachel Scott on what he would say to people who view the luxury plane as a personal gift to him, Trump said it was not a gift to him but "a gift to the Department of Defense."Sources familiar with the proposed arrangement told ABC News that the plane would be a gift that is to be available for use by Trump as the new Air Force One until shortly before he leaves office, at which time ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Trump presidential library foundation.If a private contractor were able to complete the modifications needed to the donated plane before the end of Trump's presidency, many of the systems installed would then need to be removed should the Trump presidential library foundation take possession of the plane upon Trump leaving office due to the sensitive nature of the technology.Ultimately, Cohen said he suspects that members of the intelligence community and the military will assess the risk to national security and "the level of effort to minimize the risk to national security.""If they're doing their job, the president's national security team will explain to him the level of risk that exists if a foreign intelligence service were able to introduce collection capabilities that could intercept face-to-face communications on the plane, electronic communications coming from the plane," Cohen said. "They should also be explaining to him the level of effort that it will involve in order for that risk to be mitigated. And with that information, he can then make an informed decision on whether and under what conditions to accept the airplane."

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Terrence C. Carson (OG Kratos) in 2010: "I think that the problem is that video games are always going to be perceived as children's items first."

The Artisan
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It's been about a week since GTA6's second trailer, and this interview with TC Carson always rings back to me because of one question that he answered about the violence in video games.
The full interview is somewhere on Youtube and it was about promoting gow3.
The interview itself was conducted by Shogungamer, which I think closed down.
I've transcribed the question and answer below:
DO YOU THINK THE DOUBLE STANDARD BETWEEN CINEMA & GAME RATINGS WILL EVER END?
I think the problem...is that video games are always going to be perceived as children's items first.
And, until, you know - I don't think that's ever gonna change, because they're for kids! You know, now, there are video games that are for mature audiences.
There are older people playing games now.
There are kids who grew up playing video games that are now in their 20s and you know, 30s that are still playing video games so they want something a little more...a little more R-rated.
You know, and they should be able to have that.
But, ultimately video games are marketed toward children so there's always gonna be a little bit more scrutiny.
And they're really accessible to kids.
I have a...I have a mixed thing about the violence in video games.
I know that's strange coming from somebody playing *chuckles* one of the most violent characters in games.
But um, like this game here [gow3], I would, I have nephews that are young that I, I won't let them play this game.
It's too much for them! On the other hand, I have, you know, some godsons that older, you know, 18, 19, they love the game!
So, I...I think the labels are important, I think the stores should enforce the labels, you know, and I think the parents should enforce the labels.
Make sure you know what your kid is playing with.
That's the biggest thing right there.
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throughout my entire life that I've played video games, I'll admit I played a lot of M rated games before I was even a teenager.
but I don't know if that was right, and I don't know if it'd be right if I allowed my future kids to do that too.
if there are restrictions in place to stop children especially young children (say like, younger than 13) from watching R rated movies or MA rated television, shouldn't the restrictions for video games be as strong?
the counter to this that I can think of is music.
Carson has a point about how accessible video games are to kids, but the entertainment medium that's most accessible is music.
Youtube is right there, and it won't censor music at all.
anyone can go straight there and listening to anything they want.
so restricting music for children is kind of a lost cause.
what do you think?

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Should there be a better effort in restricting children from playing mature games?

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From their parents, yeah.
You can't really get more obvious than ESRB/equivalent ratings, and yet.

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I don't see the difference.
It seems just as easy to set parental controls on a console as it is to do the same on a Netflix account.
I found it easy to watch mature content as it was to play mature games as a kid.
And once you get on the web you can see nearly whatever you want.

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enforcing the game's rating is something that should have been one of the top priorities for decades and it never sticks.
no idea what else you can do about it.
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It has to be a household thing.
Companies and governments shouldn't be restricting art because of who may or may not see it.

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I grew up playing a good amount of M-rated games just as I grew up watching a bunch of TV-14 and TV-MA shows and rated R movies.
I think it's all about parenting styles and the maturity of the kids.
My parents did restrict what I was allowed to watch, but mot by following the guidelines of the rating systems

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It's still wild to me that Kyle from Living Single was OG Kratos

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Grapezard said:
From their parents, yeah.
You can't really get more obvious than ESRB/equivalent ratings, and yet.

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This is true but games and movies mostly aim for an m15 maximum rating because they know the higher they go on the scale the lower they are making their potential audience.

And tbh I'm fine with that, that's up to the artist and their funders as to what projects they want to make

Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrence-c-carson-og-kratos-in-2010-i-think-that-the-problem-is-that-video-games-are-always-going-to-be-perceived-as-childrens-items-first.1187892/" style="color: #0066cc;">https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrence-c-carson-og-kratos-in-2010-i-think-that-the-problem-is-that-video-games-are-always-going-to-be-perceived-as-childrens-items-first.1187892/
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Terrence C. Carson (OG Kratos) in 2010: "I think that the problem is that video games are always going to be perceived as children's items first."

The Artisan "Angels are singing in monasteries..." Moderator Oct 27, 2017 9,278 It's been about a week since GTA6's second trailer, and this interview with TC Carson always rings back to me because of one question that he answered about the violence in video games. The full interview is somewhere on Youtube and it was about promoting gow3. The interview itself was conducted by Shogungamer, which I think closed down. I've transcribed the question and answer below: DO YOU THINK THE DOUBLE STANDARD BETWEEN CINEMA & GAME RATINGS WILL EVER END? I think the problem...is that video games are always going to be perceived as children's items first. And, until, you know - I don't think that's ever gonna change, because they're for kids! You know, now, there are video games that are for mature audiences. There are older people playing games now. There are kids who grew up playing video games that are now in their 20s and you know, 30s that are still playing video games so they want something a little more...a little more R-rated. You know, and they should be able to have that. But, ultimately video games are marketed toward children so there's always gonna be a little bit more scrutiny. And they're really accessible to kids. I have a...I have a mixed thing about the violence in video games. I know that's strange coming from somebody playing *chuckles* one of the most violent characters in games. But um, like this game here [gow3], I would, I have nephews that are young that I, I won't let them play this game. It's too much for them! On the other hand, I have, you know, some godsons that older, you know, 18, 19, they love the game! So, I...I think the labels are important, I think the stores should enforce the labels, you know, and I think the parents should enforce the labels. Make sure you know what your kid is playing with. That's the biggest thing right there. Click to expand... Click to shrink... throughout my entire life that I've played video games, I'll admit I played a lot of M rated games before I was even a teenager. but I don't know if that was right, and I don't know if it'd be right if I allowed my future kids to do that too. if there are restrictions in place to stop children especially young children (say like, younger than 13) from watching R rated movies or MA rated television, shouldn't the restrictions for video games be as strong? the counter to this that I can think of is music. Carson has a point about how accessible video games are to kids, but the entertainment medium that's most accessible is music. Youtube is right there, and it won't censor music at all. anyone can go straight there and listening to anything they want. so restricting music for children is kind of a lost cause. what do you think? Grapezard Member Nov 16, 2017 8,353 Should there be a better effort in restricting children from playing mature games? Click to expand... Click to shrink... From their parents, yeah. You can't really get more obvious than ESRB/equivalent ratings, and yet. Vanguard Member Jan 15, 2025 556 I don't see the difference. It seems just as easy to set parental controls on a console as it is to do the same on a Netflix account. I found it easy to watch mature content as it was to play mature games as a kid. And once you get on the web you can see nearly whatever you want. Madao Avalanche's One Winged Slayer Member Oct 26, 2017 5,623 Panama enforcing the game's rating is something that should have been one of the top priorities for decades and it never sticks. no idea what else you can do about it. Mesoian ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 28, 2017 31,635 It has to be a household thing. Companies and governments shouldn't be restricting art because of who may or may not see it. The Lord of Cereal #REFANTAZIO SWEEP Member Jan 9, 2020 12,190 I grew up playing a good amount of M-rated games just as I grew up watching a bunch of TV-14 and TV-MA shows and rated R movies. I think it's all about parenting styles and the maturity of the kids. My parents did restrict what I was allowed to watch, but mot by following the guidelines of the rating systems Rellyrell28 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 33,346 It's still wild to me that Kyle from Living Single was OG Kratos T0kenAussie Member Jan 15, 2020 5,978 Grapezard said: From their parents, yeah. You can't really get more obvious than ESRB/equivalent ratings, and yet. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is true but games and movies mostly aim for an m15 maximum rating because they know the higher they go on the scale the lower they are making their potential audience. And tbh I'm fine with that, that's up to the artist and their funders as to what projects they want to make Source: https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrence-c-carson-og-kratos-in-2010-i-think-that-the-problem-is-that-video-games-are-always-going-to-be-perceived-as-childrens-items-first.1187892/ #terrence #carson #kratos #quoti #think #that #the #problem #video #games #are #always #going #perceived #children039s #items #firstquot

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Terrence C. Carson (OG Kratos) in 2010: "I think that the problem is that video games are always going to be perceived as children's items first."

The Artisan "Angels are singing in monasteries..." Moderator Oct 27, 2017 9,278 It's been about a week since GTA6's second trailer, and this interview with TC Carson always rings back to me because of one question that he answered about the violence in video games. The full interview is somewhere on Youtube and it was about promoting gow3. The interview itself was conducted by Shogungamer, which I think closed down. I've transcribed the question and answer below: DO YOU THINK THE DOUBLE STANDARD BETWEEN CINEMA & GAME RATINGS WILL EVER END? I think the problem...is that video games are always going to be perceived as children's items first. And, until, you know - I don't think that's ever gonna change, because they're for kids! You know, now, there are video games that are for mature audiences. There are older people playing games now. There are kids who grew up playing video games that are now in their 20s and you know, 30s that are still playing video games so they want something a little more...a little more R-rated. You know, and they should be able to have that. But, ultimately video games are marketed toward children so there's always gonna be a little bit more scrutiny. And they're really accessible to kids. I have a...I have a mixed thing about the violence in video games. I know that's strange coming from somebody playing *chuckles* one of the most violent characters in games. But um, like this game here [gow3], I would, I have nephews that are young that I, I won't let them play this game. It's too much for them! On the other hand, I have, you know, some godsons that older, you know, 18, 19, they love the game! So, I...I think the labels are important, I think the stores should enforce the labels, you know, and I think the parents should enforce the labels. Make sure you know what your kid is playing with. That's the biggest thing right there. Click to expand... Click to shrink... throughout my entire life that I've played video games, I'll admit I played a lot of M rated games before I was even a teenager. but I don't know if that was right, and I don't know if it'd be right if I allowed my future kids to do that too. if there are restrictions in place to stop children especially young children (say like, younger than 13) from watching R rated movies or MA rated television, shouldn't the restrictions for video games be as strong? the counter to this that I can think of is music. Carson has a point about how accessible video games are to kids, but the entertainment medium that's most accessible is music. Youtube is right there, and it won't censor music at all. anyone can go straight there and listening to anything they want. so restricting music for children is kind of a lost cause. what do you think? Grapezard Member Nov 16, 2017 8,353 Should there be a better effort in restricting children from playing mature games? Click to expand... Click to shrink... From their parents, yeah. You can't really get more obvious than ESRB/equivalent ratings, and yet. Vanguard Member Jan 15, 2025 556 I don't see the difference. It seems just as easy to set parental controls on a console as it is to do the same on a Netflix account. I found it easy to watch mature content as it was to play mature games as a kid. And once you get on the web you can see nearly whatever you want. Madao Avalanche's One Winged Slayer Member Oct 26, 2017 5,623 Panama enforcing the game's rating is something that should have been one of the top priorities for decades and it never sticks. no idea what else you can do about it. Mesoian ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 28, 2017 31,635 It has to be a household thing. Companies and governments shouldn't be restricting art because of who may or may not see it. The Lord of Cereal #REFANTAZIO SWEEP Member Jan 9, 2020 12,190 I grew up playing a good amount of M-rated games just as I grew up watching a bunch of TV-14 and TV-MA shows and rated R movies. I think it's all about parenting styles and the maturity of the kids. My parents did restrict what I was allowed to watch, but mot by following the guidelines of the rating systems Rellyrell28 Avenger Oct 25, 2017 33,346 It's still wild to me that Kyle from Living Single was OG Kratos T0kenAussie Member Jan 15, 2020 5,978 Grapezard said: From their parents, yeah. You can't really get more obvious than ESRB/equivalent ratings, and yet. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This is true but games and movies mostly aim for an m15 maximum rating because they know the higher they go on the scale the lower they are making their potential audience. And tbh I'm fine with that, that's up to the artist and their funders as to what projects they want to make

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Nintendo confirms some Switch 1 games will be getting free updates to improve playability on Switch 2 (separate from Switch 2 editions)

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Nintendo Switch Games with Free Nintendo Switch 2 Updates - Nintendo US

Free updates to improve playability on the Nintendo Switch 2 system will be released for selected Nintendo Switch games.

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Free updates to improve playability on the Nintendo Switch™ 2 system will be released for select Nintendo Switch games.

By connecting your Nintendo Switch 2 to the internet, you can download free updates that may improve performance or add support for features such as GameShare in select games.
The contents of these free updates will differ depending on the game.
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Initial games to receive updates:

• ARMS™
• Captain Toad™: Treasure Tracker
• Super Mario Odyssey™
• Super Mario™ 3D World + Bowser's Fury
• Clubhouse Games™: 51 Worldwide Classics
• The Legend of Zelda™: Link's Awakening
• The Legend of Zelda™: Echoes of Wisdom
• Game Builder Garage™
• New Super Mario Bros.™ U Deluxe
• Pokémon™ Scarlet
• Pokémon™ Violet
• Big Brain Academy™: Brain vs.
Brain

Stoof
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No Xenoblade...
But good to see those two Zelda games there

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Atheerios said:

Pokémon™ Scarlet

• Pokémon™ Violet
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Heh, all eyes on this one lol

Bengraven
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Nice.
Then I might end up finally buying Scar/Vi depending on how well they run.

DNAbro
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PLEASE LET SCARLET AND VIOLET RUN WELL

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Stoof said:

No Xenoblade...
But good to see those two Zelda games there

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They might get Switch 2 versions instead

Bio Booster Armoire
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That's cool.
Now if only I could get a free fps/res bump for BOTW and TOTK instead of paying extra for some questionable app features I'll never use...

Waggles
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Cntrl + F Hyrule warriors

well fuck

Audiblee
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If only Nintendo had a platform where they could have told us all of this DIRECTly.

mrmickfran
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Gongaga

Bowser's Fury nice

That game chugged like crazy in the final boss fight

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• The Legend of Zelda™: Link's Awakening

Mass Effect
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That's a nice list of games honestly for a first run.

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Heh, all eyes on this one lol

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Maybe it won't look like a PS2 game anymore.

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and is there a base upgrade that makes stuff run better regardless of updates to specific titles?

why isn't this stuff in the hour long sales pitch you just showed us

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Waggles said:

Cntrl + F Hyrule warriors

well fuck
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Would be surprised if it's not included later, it's gotta be one of the more infamous ones, and it's getting a sequel

Kongroo
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Paid 60fps patches is such a Nintendo move.
I'm tired.

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Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017

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Make TTYD 60fps PLEASE

Aleh
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Oct 27, 2017

19,974

NICE SCARLET AND VIOLET

Captain of Outer Space
Come Sale Away With Me
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Oct 28, 2017

14,345

That description says they won't all be for "improved playability" but to support chat features on the Switch 2.

luminosity
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SludgeFarmer said:

and is there a base upgrade that makes stuff run better regardless of updates to specific titles?

why isn't this stuff in the hour long sales pitch you just showed us
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yeah, like just brute force it.

Ayumu
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May 10, 2024

944

Free updates in Nintendo first party games? I was not expecting that lol

u_neek
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Atheerios said:

• Pokémon™ Scarlet

• Pokémon™ Violet
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I might finally play these.

Blindy
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Nov 16, 2017

4,134

Scarlet & Violet getting performance upgrades but not Arceus is wild to me.

Finaj
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Oct 25, 2017

5,728

Please make Pokémon Scarlet and Violet actually playable.
Please!

Seik
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3,734

Québec City

Echoes of Wisdom needs that very very badly.

Frame pacing in that game is literally headache inducing.

Teenage Fansub
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May 24, 2019

24,195

All the paid upgrades seemed to have additional exclusive content, so hopefully there'll be a lot of these when it's a simple switch to a native version without any bonuses.

Bishop89
What Are Ya' Selling?
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Oct 25, 2017

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Atheerios said:

Pokémon™ Scarlet

• Pokémon™ Violet
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Nice

Cronogear
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Oct 27, 2017

4,910

Scarlet and Violet will be VERY interesting to see.
Can't wait for the DF video.

Dsezer
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500

Bayonetta 3 pls :(

NotLiquid
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37,802

Give me Bayonetta 3 and Astral Chain updates, and my life will be yours

Mario_Bones
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Oct 31, 2017

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Yeah the Scarlet and Violet upgrade had BETTER be free lmao

Hopefully the Xenoblades and Age of Calamity get an upgrade as well

Hero
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8,816

Kongroo said:

Paid 60fps patches is such a Nintendo move.
I'm tired.

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This thread is about free updates?

Watershed
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Oct 26, 2017

10,516

Free updates are nice.
Hopefully technical improvements all around.

bunnibuki
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Feb 18, 2024

922

Fuck it, give me 120fps Skyward Sword lol

Very glad to see Link's Awakening in here.

Edit: Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3 better get some patches in the future, pleaseeee

Berordn
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NoVA

Blindy said:

Scarlet & Violet getting performance upgrades but not Arceus is wild to me.

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arceus is probably being superceded in their eyes by ZA, but it'll be a while before the next pokemon gen

No Depth
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20,641

Waggles said:

Cntrl + F Hyrule warriors

well fuck
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Entered thread for this exact thing too.

Well fuck

Lucaflowe
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Sep 26, 2018

46

No Age of Calamity booooo.
Pokemon Scarlet and Violet is definitely gonna have all eyes on it

Xtortion
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Oct 25, 2017

7,489

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Games that are already 60fps should straight up just get uncapped framerates.
Let the enhanced grunt of Switch 2 and VRR take the wheel.

jw2727
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Aug 7, 2024

50

That's better.
Hopefully more join that list, TTYD especially.

EDIT and honestly, I would much prefer if Kirby and the Forgotten Land just got bumped to 60 without the extra shit.

Teenage Fansub
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May 24, 2019

24,195

SludgeFarmer said:

and is there a base upgrade that makes stuff run better regardless of updates to specific titles?

why isn't this stuff in the hour long sales pitch you just showed us
Click to expand...
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A hardware brute force upgrade seems to apply without patches.

Enhanced BC confirmed for Switch 2

As per the most recent, "Ask the Developers"

www.resetera.com

Soul Lab
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Nov 17, 2017

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Xenoblade X? Bayonetta ? D:

DarkChronic
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Oct 27, 2017

5,652

Love to see it - not a bad start! So pumped to see Pokemon S/V! I can't wait to play these in earnest, lol!

Glad to see Echoes of Wisdom, as well.
Now we just need to see Xenoblade!

Bufbaf
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Oct 25, 2017

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gotta love how botw/totk aren't in there, so you're forced to buy the update instead of getting free 60fps.

RockmanBN
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Oct 25, 2017

31,854

Cornfields

Where are my Xenoblades?

A.J.
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Oct 25, 2017

21,510

Still nothing for Xenoblade X.
I guess that 60fps mode hidden in the code was unrelated

Rowsdower
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Pokemon Scarlet/Violet at maybe 60fps and no longer a blurry mess? Praise the lord.

Greywaren
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Jul 16, 2019

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Spain

Good stuff.
Kinda softens the blow of other upgrades being paid.

Kouriozan
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Oct 25, 2017

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That means 3rd parties can do it as well so that's good.

lucancel
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Oct 30, 2017

1,766

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Can i have switch 1 games docked mode on switch 2 portable? Did Nintendo Say anything?

Brodo Baggins
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Oct 27, 2017

5,581

No Xenoblade X

Waggles
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Lotus said:

Would be surprised if it's not included later, it's gotta be one of the more infamous ones, and it's getting a sequel

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Yeah, I'll assume a performance patch will come.

does anyone know - did nintendo explicitly claim that "all" switch games will work on switch 2 regardless of patches or updates? i assume it'll be like microsoft's handling of BC titles - that even if they're not patched, they should still launch, even if bugs or weird behavior may be present.
I'm hoping that games in general should see a performance boost regardless.
Probably too much to hope for from Nintendo, honestly.

On a similar note, I'm a little worried how the transfer between switch and switch 2 will be.
will it reset my switch and lock me out of digital purchases and saves if I migrate to switch 2?

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Nintendo confirms some Switch 1 games will be getting free updates to improve playability on Switch 2 (separate from Switch 2 editions)

Atheerios Member Oct 27, 2017 7,479 Nintendo Switch Games with Free Nintendo Switch 2 Updates - Nintendo US Free updates to improve playability on the Nintendo Switch 2 system will be released for selected Nintendo Switch games. www.nintendo.com Free updates to improve playability on the Nintendo Switch™ 2 system will be released for select Nintendo Switch games. By connecting your Nintendo Switch 2 to the internet, you can download free updates that may improve performance or add support for features such as GameShare in select games. The contents of these free updates will differ depending on the game. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Initial games to receive updates: • ARMS™ • Captain Toad™: Treasure Tracker • Super Mario Odyssey™ • Super Mario™ 3D World + Bowser's Fury • Clubhouse Games™: 51 Worldwide Classics • The Legend of Zelda™: Link's Awakening • The Legend of Zelda™: Echoes of Wisdom • Game Builder Garage™ • New Super Mario Bros.™ U Deluxe • Pokémon™ Scarlet • Pokémon™ Violet • Big Brain Academy™: Brain vs. Brain Stoof Uncle Works at Nintendo Member Oct 25, 2017 5,487 No Xenoblade... But good to see those two Zelda games there Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 123,772 Atheerios said: Pokémon™ Scarlet • Pokémon™ Violet Click to expand... Click to shrink... Heh, all eyes on this one lol Bengraven Powered by Friendship™ Member Oct 26, 2017 33,524 Florida Nice. Then I might end up finally buying Scar/Vi depending on how well they run. DNAbro Member Oct 25, 2017 29,960 PLEASE LET SCARLET AND VIOLET RUN WELL oni-link tag reference no one gets Member Oct 25, 2017 17,329 UK Stoof said: No Xenoblade... But good to see those two Zelda games there Click to expand... Click to shrink... They might get Switch 2 versions instead Bio Booster Armoire Prophet of Truth Member Apr 21, 2020 1,167 That's cool. Now if only I could get a free fps/res bump for BOTW and TOTK instead of paying extra for some questionable app features I'll never use... Waggles Member Oct 26, 2017 3,767 Cntrl + F Hyrule warriors well fuck Audiblee Member Mar 14, 2025 1,316 If only Nintendo had a platform where they could have told us all of this DIRECTly. mrmickfran The Fallen Oct 27, 2017 33,106 Gongaga Bowser's Fury nice That game chugged like crazy in the final boss fight AaronMT Member Oct 27, 2017 8,350 Toronto • The Legend of Zelda™: Link's Awakening Mass Effect One Winged Slayer Member Oct 31, 2017 19,145 That's a nice list of games honestly for a first run. Lotus said: Heh, all eyes on this one lol Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maybe it won't look like a PS2 game anymore. SludgeFarmer Member Feb 17, 2025 133 and is there a base upgrade that makes stuff run better regardless of updates to specific titles? why isn't this stuff in the hour long sales pitch you just showed us Lotus One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 123,772 Waggles said: Cntrl + F Hyrule warriors well fuck Click to expand... Click to shrink... Would be surprised if it's not included later, it's gotta be one of the more infamous ones, and it's getting a sequel Kongroo Banned Oct 31, 2017 3,465 Ottawa, Ontario, CA Paid 60fps patches is such a Nintendo move. I'm tired. Milk Prophet of Truth Avenger Oct 25, 2017 4,288 Make TTYD 60fps PLEASE Aleh Member Oct 27, 2017 19,974 NICE SCARLET AND VIOLET Captain of Outer Space Come Sale Away With Me Member Oct 28, 2017 14,345 That description says they won't all be for "improved playability" but to support chat features on the Switch 2. luminosity "This guy are sick" Member Oct 30, 2017 1,639 SludgeFarmer said: and is there a base upgrade that makes stuff run better regardless of updates to specific titles? why isn't this stuff in the hour long sales pitch you just showed us Click to expand... Click to shrink... yeah, like just brute force it. Ayumu Member May 10, 2024 944 Free updates in Nintendo first party games? I was not expecting that lol u_neek Member Oct 28, 2017 1,732 Atheerios said: • Pokémon™ Scarlet • Pokémon™ Violet Click to expand... Click to shrink... I might finally play these. Blindy Member Nov 16, 2017 4,134 Scarlet & Violet getting performance upgrades but not Arceus is wild to me. Finaj Member Oct 25, 2017 5,728 Please make Pokémon Scarlet and Violet actually playable. Please! Seik Member Jan 5, 2023 3,734 Québec City Echoes of Wisdom needs that very very badly. Frame pacing in that game is literally headache inducing. Teenage Fansub Member May 24, 2019 24,195 All the paid upgrades seemed to have additional exclusive content, so hopefully there'll be a lot of these when it's a simple switch to a native version without any bonuses. Bishop89 What Are Ya' Selling? Member Oct 25, 2017 42,625 Melbourne, Australia Atheerios said: Pokémon™ Scarlet • Pokémon™ Violet Click to expand... Click to shrink... Nice Cronogear ▲ Legend ▲ Member Oct 27, 2017 4,910 Scarlet and Violet will be VERY interesting to see. Can't wait for the DF video. Dsezer Member Sep 22, 2020 500 Bayonetta 3 pls :( NotLiquid One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 37,802 Give me Bayonetta 3 and Astral Chain updates, and my life will be yours Mario_Bones Member Oct 31, 2017 3,755 Australia Yeah the Scarlet and Violet upgrade had BETTER be free lmao Hopefully the Xenoblades and Age of Calamity get an upgrade as well Hero One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 8,816 Kongroo said: Paid 60fps patches is such a Nintendo move. I'm tired. Click to expand... Click to shrink... This thread is about free updates? Watershed Member Oct 26, 2017 10,516 Free updates are nice. Hopefully technical improvements all around. bunnibuki Member Feb 18, 2024 922 Fuck it, give me 120fps Skyward Sword lol Very glad to see Link's Awakening in here. Edit: Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3 better get some patches in the future, pleaseeee Berordn One Winged Slayer Member Oct 26, 2017 10,674 NoVA Blindy said: Scarlet & Violet getting performance upgrades but not Arceus is wild to me. Click to expand... Click to shrink... arceus is probably being superceded in their eyes by ZA, but it'll be a while before the next pokemon gen No Depth Member Oct 27, 2017 20,641 Waggles said: Cntrl + F Hyrule warriors well fuck Click to expand... Click to shrink... Entered thread for this exact thing too. Well fuck Lucaflowe Member Sep 26, 2018 46 No Age of Calamity booooo. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet is definitely gonna have all eyes on it Xtortion One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 7,489 United States Games that are already 60fps should straight up just get uncapped framerates. Let the enhanced grunt of Switch 2 and VRR take the wheel. jw2727 Member Aug 7, 2024 50 That's better. Hopefully more join that list, TTYD especially. EDIT and honestly, I would much prefer if Kirby and the Forgotten Land just got bumped to 60 without the extra shit. Teenage Fansub Member May 24, 2019 24,195 SludgeFarmer said: and is there a base upgrade that makes stuff run better regardless of updates to specific titles? why isn't this stuff in the hour long sales pitch you just showed us Click to expand... Click to shrink... A hardware brute force upgrade seems to apply without patches. Enhanced BC confirmed for Switch 2 As per the most recent, "Ask the Developers" www.resetera.com Soul Lab Member Nov 17, 2017 2,986 Xenoblade X? Bayonetta ? D: DarkChronic Member Oct 27, 2017 5,652 Love to see it - not a bad start! So pumped to see Pokemon S/V! I can't wait to play these in earnest, lol! Glad to see Echoes of Wisdom, as well. Now we just need to see Xenoblade! Bufbaf Don't F5! Member Oct 25, 2017 15,796 Hamburg, Germany gotta love how botw/totk aren't in there, so you're forced to buy the update instead of getting free 60fps. RockmanBN Visited by Knack - One Winged Slayer Member Oct 25, 2017 31,854 Cornfields Where are my Xenoblades? A.J. Member Oct 25, 2017 21,510 Still nothing for Xenoblade X. I guess that 60fps mode hidden in the code was unrelated Rowsdower Shinra Employee of The Wise Ones Avenger Oct 27, 2017 19,962 Canada Pokemon Scarlet/Violet at maybe 60fps and no longer a blurry mess? Praise the lord. Greywaren Member Jul 16, 2019 12,989 Spain Good stuff. Kinda softens the blow of other upgrades being paid. Kouriozan Member Oct 25, 2017 24,670 That means 3rd parties can do it as well so that's good. lucancel Member Oct 30, 2017 1,766 Italy Can i have switch 1 games docked mode on switch 2 portable? Did Nintendo Say anything? Brodo Baggins Member Oct 27, 2017 5,581 No Xenoblade X 🥺 Waggles Member Oct 26, 2017 3,767 Lotus said: Would be surprised if it's not included later, it's gotta be one of the more infamous ones, and it's getting a sequel Click to expand... Click to shrink... Yeah, I'll assume a performance patch will come. does anyone know - did nintendo explicitly claim that "all" switch games will work on switch 2 regardless of patches or updates? i assume it'll be like microsoft's handling of BC titles - that even if they're not patched, they should still launch, even if bugs or weird behavior may be present. I'm hoping that games in general should see a performance boost regardless. Probably too much to hope for from Nintendo, honestly. On a similar note, I'm a little worried how the transfer between switch and switch 2 will be. will it reset my switch and lock me out of digital purchases and saves if I migrate to switch 2? المصدر: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-confirms-some-switch-1-games-will-be-getting-free-updates-to-improve-playability-on-switch-2-separate-from-switch-2-editions.1152525/ #Nintendo #confirms #some #Switch #games #will #getting #free #updates #improve #playability #Switch #separate #from #Switch #editions

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Nintendo confirms some Switch 1 games will be getting free updates to improve playability on Switch 2 (separate from Switch 2 editions)